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Kaiser battery drain

Seen a lot of posts about battery but no real solution, still wandering if following normal ... I bought my Kaiser 1 month ago, had trouble with device, like some other here, when Kaiser just went dead, get it to service and back and now is working smoothly, but with a "small" problem.
Having battery charged full to 100%, after 3 hours of work on battery inclusive of 58 minutes talk it is down on 73% power only. Checked all posts but have not managed to figure out if it is normal. Taking information from booklet, should have available 420 minutes of talk time on GSM settings.
(according to my math after 3 hours of described usage, should have used 14-15% not almost 30%)
CHECKED ALL, NO BLUETOOTH ON, NO WIFI ON, NO G3, to the best of my knowledge, all battery eaters are off.
Any advice on settings...or back to service...which is bad solution as last time they returned it to me with wrong gsm setting and I have had to use net to ,find solution.
Thanks in advance

It's normal. For god's sake, what do you expect? A Nokia?
Suggestion: put the screen off while talking.

mrbandwidth said:
It's normal. For god's sake, what do you expect? A Nokia?
Suggestion: put the screen off while talking.
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Thanks man, screen is already off... what is that I expect...well ... what is in the booklet...nothing more, but , well... that must be a typo in all those materials they have produced to sell...
Nokia, whats that

Problem: very weak battery, even for the diamond!

Hello guys!
It's nearlly my first posting here, but i'm reading this forum for quite a while now.
I finally got an Xda diamond and everything was ok the first couple of days, even the battery was satisfying. When i use it really much, the battery lasts for about a day, that's ok. But 2 days ago, suddenly the battery got empty from 100% down to 0% in 7 hours, although i did not use the phone much. I had a call for about an hour and that's it.
Knowing there are some possibilities to save energy, i followed some advice from this forum:
- took down the display light to stage 2
- switched off UMTS
- switched off GPS
- installed powermanagement.cab
- switched off RSS Hub auto-download
- made sure there are no applications running in the background all day
- made sure there are no data-connections like Bluetooth or GPRS running all day
I also installed PowerGuard v1.2 which told me, my Diamond drains about 65 mA, what seems to be a proper value, comparing to other peoples around here.
This morning i took the Diamond off the charging cable at 8:00 and it switched off at 16:00. I only used it for a 1 hour phone call again, thats all. I did not do anything else with it.
I don't unterstand, why it lasted much longer the first couple of days. Anybody have an idea?
Thx so far!

1. Check with Task Manager Cpu proccess
2. Hard Restet ?

I have the same problem AND additionally sudden softresets.
The battery is defect. I will buy a new one and o2 will refund the money.

wedge210483 said:
... But 2 days ago, suddenly the battery got empty from 100% down to 0% in 7 hours, although i did not use the phone much. I had a call for about an hour and that's it.
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The battery is not supposed to get empty to anywhere near 0%, it can be damaged if it does. The phone is supposed to turn off to prevent that happening.
If killing tasks does not help, maybe you just got a bad battery? Edit: ^^^ What he said!
Here's a useful link for information on Li-ion batteries: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

Hi!
I recently found the solution. My sim-card was too old! I had been using it for about 4 years. A couple of days ago, I ordered a new one from my provider (O2 Germany) for free. Since I changed the sim-card, I never had any problems with the battery anymore.
Why didn't I find this advice anywhere?
Cheers

Your SIM card was "too old"? My technical prowess is nothing to brag about, but even I can tell you that that could hardly have been the cause.

Older Sims seem to drain more battery power...

I have to agree with H3x ... I don't see how a SIM card would have any effect on battery life.
As a point of reference, I'm very satisfied with my battery life. I charge it for an hour or two a couple times a week. I am diligent about turning off WiFi, Bluetooth, and running apps when not in use, but other than that I don't do anything special.

With GSM band manually selected in phone options and moderate use, my diamond can last over 2 days, with "auto" band selection it barely lasts a day...it just drains stock battery so much, even in standby...but I still can't be happier with my device, no matter what
Decided to watch battery more carefully over PowerGuard, some things started to make more sense...

Htc86 said:
With GSM band manually selected in phone options and moderate use, my diamond can last over 2 days
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Yeah, I have that selected too, so I'm sure that helps. Maybe the OP should try it?

[SOLVED] Incorrect Battery Values

This seems to be quite a common and somewhat obscure at the same time.
Many people have reported installing a new rom or even just powering up their phone and seeing a battery % much different from what they expect. Most often much lower than it should be. Evidently this corrects itself after some time but it's a real problem if your display reads <15% because you really have to plug it in then, even with you know you have 90% battery!
So, here's the solution after testing it under different circumstances over a few days:
Simply boot your phone when it is not plugged in to a power source and battery % will be accurate.​
That simple. Silly LG!
So, if you flash a new rom, unplug the USB cable before you reboot...
Hit 'Thanks' below for the 50 reboots I did to prove this...

hehehe jups allready figured that out on myself tho haha. But indeed that's kinda silly of LG

djmcnz said:
This seems to be quite a common and somewhat obscure at the same time.
Many people have reported installing a new rom or even just powering up their phone and seeing a battery % much different from what they expect. Most often much lower than it should be. Evidently this corrects itself after some time but it's a real problem if your display reads <15% because you really have to plug it in then, even with you know you have 90% battery!
So, here's the solution after testing it under different circumstances over a few days:
Simply boot your phone when it is not plugged in to a power source and battery % will be accurate.​
That simple. Silly LG!
So, if you flash a new rom, unplug the USB cable before you reboot...
Hit 'Thanks' below for the 50 reboots I did to prove this...
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What about every time I use a custom rom the battery % indicator jumps right down to 90-95% when unplugging from charger ? Do you have a solution for that ?

reidar.ostrem said:
What about every time I use a custom rom the battery % indicator jumps right down to 90-95% when unplugging from charger ? Do you have a solution for that ?
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Try rebooting after you disconnect power.

djmcnz said:
Try rebooting after you disconnect power.
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Sorry to say the same..
Even while charging with the phone shut down, pulling it off the charger and then booting this happens. On my phone I have experienced it on all MCR's.
It's really not a big deal as long as the battery performs as Stock 10b, that build has been stable batterywise on my phone. But staying stock isn't too much fun

Well, every time I charge, whether I reboot/shut down before unplugging or not, my charge always maxes out at 96%.
Annoying and I'd like it sorted if at all possible.
Anyone?..........lol
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ye i got that exact same issue i was wondering why that was happening and hoped that a simple reboot would fix it but its a bit more complicated than that i suppose...
also the battery reset in cwm didnt fix the loading till 97% w/e percentage.
when i install the stock rom it allows me to load it till 100% though pretty weird stuff -.-

mcnob said:
Well, every time I charge, whether I reboot/shut down before unplugging or not, my charge always maxes out at 96%.
Annoying and I'd like it sorted if at all possible.
Anyone?..........lol
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I had a replacement netbook battery that could only max to 90%. So, over the weekend, I practically drained it to 0% (not a healthy practice for Li-ion batteries but I was desperate). Took out the battery for a while, and then recharged for several hours. Well, it seems to get up to 100% now.
Perhaps you could try using the the phone until it very low on battery before recharging. Maybe the charging process in the phone needs some sort of recalibration. But should not be doing this all the time as it will reduce Li-ion battery longevity.

Let mine totally die last night so it wouldn't even turn on at all. Took out and replaced battery and then charged it overnight and hey-presto, when I unplugged it this morning, it stayed at 100%.
Solved indeed....for me anyway. Feel free to try the same and post your results.
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mcnob said:
Let mine totally die last night so it wouldn't even turn on at all. Took out and replaced battery and then charged it overnight and hey-presto, when I unplugged it this morning, it stayed at 100%.
Solved indeed....for me anyway. Feel free to try the same and post your results.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
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I'll be sure to try your tip man. But not easy drain it completely when I always need the phone :=)

I guys! I've got the same problem.
I think that it could depend on the "full battery popup FIX" that Paul introduced in his roms by the FR8.
So I would like to ask Paul if you can create a patch to remove that fix. Just to try it!
According to me, incorrect battery amount depend on a wrong voltage read error (offset introduced?) by the rom. :blink:
In my case, I have followed many times battery wype procedure without positive issue. The matter leaves only by flashing original roms.
I think that if Paul have written a wrong battery values range (to delete the battery full popup) that can be traduced in an incorrect battery status displays.

manciu said:
I guys! I've got the same problem.
I think that it could depend on the "full battery popup FIX" that Paul introduced in his roms by the FR8.
So I would like to ask Paul if you can create a patch to remove that fix. Just to try it!
According to me, incorrect battery amount depend on a wrong voltage read error (offset introduced?) by the rom. :blink:
In my case, I have followed many times battery wype procedure without positive issue. The matter leaves only by flashing original roms.
I think that if Paul have written a wrong battery values range (to delete the battery full popup) that can be traduced in an incorrect battery status displays.
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It was occurring before Paul introduced that change unfortunately...

After I wrote here, I registered a premium account to Paul's from modaco site and toke a custom fr12 rom without "battery full popup remove patch". Now I'm going to sleep and plugin the 2x to charge. Tomorrow I'll write here if is that the solution...
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It was occurring before Paul introduced that change unfortunately...
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I'm sure it's occured from fr8 in my case. With stock rom I haven't any battery problem so there is something wrong in fr raleases of course... I hope somebody discovers what is...

manciu said:
After I wrote here, I registered a premium account to Paul's from modaco site and toke a custom fr12 rom without "battery full popup remove patch". Now I'm going to sleep and plugin the 2x to charge. Tomorrow I'll write here if is that the solution...
I'm sure it's occured from fr8 in my case. With stock rom I haven't any battery problem so there is something wrong in fr raleases of course... I hope somebody discovers what is...
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Perhaps, but you can not conclude it was introduced by MCR. You logic is wrong there.

Even without "battery full popup fix" it doesn't work good...
Battery level, when unpluged, stay at 100% for 2 minutes afterwards drop down fast until 85% then drain normally...

I'm getting huge battery display problems no matter what I do.
When I took it off the charger this morning, it said I had 100%... thats fair enough. However it stayed at 100% all day, so to "refresh" it this evening I restarted the phone, and low and behold it now says I have 27% left. But again, it's just sticking at that value, even with me now plugging the phone into the wall to charge. It simply says "Charging (27%)" and won't budge, likely until I restart the phone again.
Sometimes it works fine, it seemed to be doing ok last night before I put it on the charger. Any tips/suggestions? Is this something likely to be fixed when the Gingerbread update rolls around?
This is my first real smartphone, and am fairly annoyed as its giving me a fair few problems that I've not had from other electronic devices.

As I stated in another thread, I had the same issue while on MoDaCo Fr12. However, after reverting back to stock, the battery percentage is spot-on and I'm getting up to 48 hours use out of it.
Draw your own conclusions.
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That sounds super, but I'm still on stock too. About the only things of note I've done are root and switching to Launcher Pro. Oh, and Clockwork Mod of course. Perhaps a complete reboot is needed, we'll see how it goes.
Saying that - since charging, my phone has been at 90% all evening, until right this moment when it changed to 89%. It's less than I'd expect on this type of phone for 3-4 hours use (or lack thereof, I've barely touched it), but it's a start eh?

Welcome to the world of smartphones my friend. I've had various handsets over the last 4 years from iphone to android and a day and a half out of the battery is about average......at best. ;-)
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Just to clarify, what I meant in my previous post was that I was expecting to battery to drop a lot more than it did. The fact that it only went down 1% in several hours of use prompted me to think that the battery value was messed up.
As it is, I've not charged my phone in the 36 hours since, and it tells me I have 73% battery left. Perhaps it is performing extremely well after all? If that's the case then I'm more than happy with it, but being the pessimist I'm still expecting the phone to turn off sometime with the battery reporting incorrect values.

[Q] Phone reboot - Problem Screen or Batt?

Hello, first I'm sorry for bad English, I use the Google translator if it generated bad sentence / word. I need help, the search has not given anything about my problem. I have a GT-I9305 with replaced in 2013/06 screen. 1 week ago I especially this particular problem, the smartphone doing well the whole day and once a day he kidding and restarts 2 minutes, I am obliged to leave off for 1 or 2 hours, it returns to normal. Before he kidding, the screen flickers and the state of battery jump about 20% of randomly each startup, when it becomes the battery regains its normal state (example: 70%> 62%> 50%> 38% then after 1 hour of turning off, it becomes 68%). Before messing around, the lower section between the USB and battery gets very hot, it is not connected.
And when it is plugged it becomes normal or battery stand-by and is the plug which feeds the smartphone and not the battery. I suspect faulty battery or screen undernourished, I do not have the battery replaced. Someone mind of the similar case, can you enlighten me?
PS: I always use the CM11 nightly, I tested all versions of CM11 and stock, the result is the same.

troyily said:
Hello, first I'm sorry for bad English, I use the Google translator if it generated bad sentence / word. I need help, the search has not given anything about my problem. I have a GT-I9305 with replaced in 2013/06 screen. 1 week ago I especially this particular problem, the smartphone doing well the whole day and once a day he kidding and restarts 2 minutes, I am obliged to leave off for 1 or 2 hours, it returns to normal. Before he kidding, the screen flickers and the state of battery jump about 20% of randomly each startup, when it becomes the battery regains its normal state (example: 70%> 62%> 50%> 38% then after 1 hour of turning off, it becomes 68%). Before messing around, the lower section between the USB and battery gets very hot, it is not connected.
And when it is plugged it becomes normal or battery stand-by and is the plug which feeds the smartphone and not the battery. I suspect faulty battery or screen undernourished, I do not have the battery replaced. Someone mind of the similar case, can you enlighten me?
PS: I always use the CM11 nightly, I tested all versions of CM11 and stock, the result is the same.
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I dont know exactly what the issue might be, but sounds like a hardware issue, im not sure though. all i can say is try first a new battery and if that doesnt work bring it to a repair shop

I will try buy a same batteries to be sure. I will answer here if I have news.
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[Q] [SUPPORT][BATTERY]Battery drain or Software problem?

I own a Samsung galaxy S advance for the past two years now.
Still on Gingerbread 2.3.6. India unrooted. Past 3 weeks I was visiting USA.
I was using a AT&T Go-phone there.
What happened is my phone always switched off while I was using it. Just like THAT! I was thinking because I was using WhatsApp on this phone, I thought maybe cause I have a different number for WA and so WA was continuously trying to identify the number whenever I was on-line.
Specifically, the battery used to drain from 75 or 63 or 47 % right down to 4 %!!!. And when plugged in, in off state, the battery used to get charged to full within seconds (the indicator showed full 100%). After I switched it on, the phone again switched off. This happened quiet a few times and so when I returned to India, I uninstalled WA reset my phone, formatted the USB storage and used a few apps to recalibrate and determine the "health" of the battery. Also I noted the time for it to switch off. I was around 2 and a Half hours which means actually the battery drain and switching off randomly continued even after factory reset.
Now here are the questions
1)Has the battery gone beyond its life or is there a problem with the software or is there some bug that is killing the battery? Just a small note here, the battery is kinda swollen
2)Also, what should I do, buy a new battery or install new software (custom ROM or something else) depending upon the ROOT cause from the above question.
Please help.
Thanks indeed.
God Bless
~amol

amolpravar said:
I own a Samsung galaxy S advance for the past two years now.
Still on Gingerbread 2.3.6. India unrooted. Past 3 weeks I was visiting USA.
I was using a AT&T Go-phone there.
What happened is my phone always switched off while I was using it. Just like THAT! I was thinking because I was using WhatsApp on this phone, I thought maybe cause I have a different number for WA and so WA was continuously trying to identify the number whenever I was on-line.
Specifically, the battery used to drain from 75 or 63 or 47 % right down to 4 %!!!. And when plugged in, in off state, the battery used to get charged to full within seconds (the indicator showed full 100%). After I switched it on, the phone again switched off. This happened quiet a few times and so when I returned to India, I uninstalled WA reset my phone, formatted the USB storage and used a few apps to recalibrate and determine the "health" of the battery. Also I noted the time for it to switch off. I was around 2 and a Half hours which means actually the battery drain and switching off randomly continued even after factory reset.
Now here are the questions
1)Has the battery gone beyond its life or is there a problem with the software or is there some bug that is killing the battery? Just a small note here, the battery is kinda swollen
2)Also, what should I do, buy a new battery or install new software (custom ROM or something else) depending upon the ROOT cause from the above question.
Please help.
Thanks indeed.
God Bless
~amol
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Seems like a battery problem. I read that it has about 500 charge cycle. And 2 yearsh has more than 500 days...

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shut_down said:
Seems like a battery problem. I read that it has about 500 charge cycle. And 2 yearsh has more than 500 days...
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Thanks for the prompt reply,
Yesterday, I charged the battery (phone) and I didnt install WhatsApp. I left the phone in flight mode and just let it out for "idling".
For a good 7 hrs it was as it is and then I installed WA and bang! switched off.
Do you reckon that, the application uses a lot of juice so much so that the remaining battery dies off instantly? (now that the battery is in bad "health")
~amol

amolpravar said:
Thanks for the prompt reply,
Yesterday, I charged the battery (phone) and I didnt install WhatsApp. I left the phone in flight mode and just let it out for "idling".
For a good 7 hrs it was as it is and then I installed WA and bang! switched off.
Do you reckon that, the application uses a lot of juice so much so that the remaining battery dies off instantly? (now that the battery is in bad "health")
~amol
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Indicator probably shows non correct value. Or it shows, but battery is so weak now that little consumption of energy drains it that much...

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shut_down said:
Indicator probably shows non correct value. Or it shows, but battery is so weak now that little consumption of energy drains it that much...
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Thanks shut_down . May be I'll just a buy a new battery and see if that works better for me.
Otherwise it's a new phone for me
Thanks indeed
~amol