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Hi all,
After 2 days of testing this tweak, I have booked really good results with my Diamond.
The phone has been on and not connected to charger or computer for over 48 hours now, and the battery has dropped only to 50%. That's right, two full days and nights of stand-by time, with an occasional call here and there, a couple of text messages, and reading some email.
Before this tweak I had to charge the Diamond already after 24 hours or less.
So if you have low battery life problems, give this a go:
Advanced config tools -> disable the setting "GPRS auto attach"
Read about this setting here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395301&highlight=GPRS+auto+attach
Have fun and enjoy the longer battery life
But this has been discussed already and is only any good if you don't rely on GPRS a lot throughout the day surely? I mean I use Exchange and I'm sure it wouldn't work for me if I tweaked this setting.
Works great if you dont use the phone all that much but doesnt make much of a difference if you do make calls, send and receive sms texts..email send and receive etc etc.
Ive enabled that tweak and i still find the battery to be utterly rubbish for a phone of this power. Sure it helps conserve some of the battery but i can guarantee you that by 7pm tonight my phone will be dead...like it happened to me yesterday...went to work yesterday battery was 100%...made 3-4 calls...in total spent about 30 mins on the phone...browsed the internet for about 20 mins...sent and received 30 texts...watched a few youtube vids...checked my email a few times...not really heavy usage but by 7pm my phone was dead.
Not impressed with HTC and their monumental screw up with this battery..900mah is just not enough for this device if you want to use it properly that is. You would have thought they would have learned from Nokia when they first released their N95, that had a terrible battery on it as well...although with the n95 8gb the battery is much much better. Why they felt it only needed 900mah is quite beyond me...plus the battery gets hot which proves to me that the battery is not up to the job imo. Luckily the phone is good or else id have sent it back by now...guess ill have to wait for the extended battery to make an appearance. In fact i find the battery so rubbish that ive had to order a spare usb synch cable so i can charge my phone here at work.
Guys, if you want to substantially improve your battery life, go with a newer 1.37 ROM.
The older 1.35 ROM has serious battery life problems, there isn't much you can do about it without to cripple full functionality.
Where can i get the 1.37 ROM?
It isn't available in the e-club on htc.com
It's linked in the Diamond ROM Development forum.
You need to install the developer version of the HardSPL first, then install one of the 1.37 roms - I'm using the official HTC HK-English one with the 1.37.707.1 rom in it.
Works a treat for me - though I haven't had it on long enough to test battery time extensively yet.
I'm on the 1.37 rom, was on the 1.34 with my first unit and the battery is much better. I'm also noticing that the battery improves with 'age'. Plus I've got the dock on the way when it's released so that will help things no end I'm sure. When I'm in the car I shove a normal mini usb cable in from my Sony CD player and of course the upside of that is it will also play my music too instead of using USB drives. At work I use a spare USB and plug it in.
The battery is poo but having worked it in to a routine like that I hardly notice it now.
Unhooked my Diamond last night 22.00-ish from the usb cable and while I am typing now the battery is still more than 80% charged.
Texted alot today, called approx. 30 mins, checked my e-mail several times and played around with google maps for 20 minutes or so.
I did not tweak anything except that I flashed the 1.37 ROM and installed the newest Google-maps thingy.
So I can confirm that the new ROM saves alot of energy and that the battery-life gets better in time sounds also plausible.
With the 1.35 ROM the battery lasted 12 hours max with the same activities.
I've found that after a few days the battery is actually better than it was wen new. Must be that charge/discharging it a few times has helped...
R
Spawn12 said:
Ive enabled that tweak and i still find the battery to be utterly rubbish for a phone of this power. Sure it helps conserve some of the battery but i can guarantee you that by 7pm tonight my phone will be dead...like it happened to me yesterday...went to work yesterday battery was 100%...made 3-4 calls...in total spent about 30 mins on the phone...browsed the internet for about 20 mins...sent and received 30 texts...watched a few youtube vids...checked my email a few times...not really heavy usage but by 7pm my phone was dead.
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actually I find your usage is a lot. during the day i will make one or two phone calls say 10 minutes. send an average of 5 sms texts and maybe check my email for a minute or 3. what takes most of my battery is when i read an ebook or do a game.
sandervanzijl said:
actually I find your usage is a lot. during the day i will make one or two phone calls say 10 minutes. send an average of 5 sms texts and maybe check my email for a minute or 3. what takes most of my battery is when i read an ebook or do a game.
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Maybe it is but for me i dont think its that high...as i said my nokia n95 8gb would last a good day or 2 before going completely dead and thats with the sort of usage that i described earlier. Anyways i have a synch cable coming which ill keep at work to charge the Diamond.
hey battery life is better after this tweak. but my 3g logo has changed... it's now in some greyish box... anyone know what this means?
I think this means that the network knows it's available but you haven't attached to the data service. I used to get a similar greying out of the globe icon on my P1i if the net knew it was there but I had unattached manually.
Hi i am novice with my HTC touch diamond & i am also facing the same problem of battery life.
you've shown some solution over there in your post. please, can you tell me where in my phone i need to go to apply this settings.
hank you
Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
mods needed
to clean the diamond threads up...this is just getting silly
murks_muell said:
Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
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Remember to close Data Connections from CommManager. And if you don't use WCDMA, switch band type to GSM (CommManager -> Settings -> Band -> Select your network type). Bad WCDMA-band signal eats battery like lion.
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Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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My post is in one of those useless complaint threads.
Your opening post seems more a complaint than a question. That is not useful. It would have made more sense to post what you have posted now: More information on what you have done so far, as well as ending the post with a question.
When you left the phone in the evening, how many bars were left (I mean the green coloured bars when you are in the energy settings). I have noticed that when there are only 2 bars left, the battery is already almost entirely flat.
How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.
How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.
Ok, you're right. I should have posted a question. Sorry for that!
The battery was fully charged. I just took it off the USB cord before going to bed.
3G is completely disabled on my phone.
Perhaps I should leave the device as I did yesterday evening and then watch whats happening. Perhaps an application pops up and drains the battery.
schaps: should one really enable all power management features?! e.g. "sd memory...", "async1..." and so on? They're all disabled on mine. Didn't read something about these options here yet.
Your answers are affirming what I thougt - it's not normal (even for the diamond) that the battery doesn't last a single night.
Hi
i am installed Beepes ROM
3G enabled - Batterie 100% after Night 86%
very nice
Yes 14% for one night would be nice. I have to wait for german roms to appear though...
I have read about some devices popping on when it is exactly 00:00. Not every night, but they've noticed once or so. No clue why it does this... maybe your phone did the same, and didn't go back to standby anymore.
Fully charged it should last 2 days using it for a few calls, sms and email functionality.
Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
Is this maybe due to the google maps-bug? I've read that it doesn't close the gps port properly after use, and therefore the batt-troubles. To tired to find a link.. :/
I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I didn't use the Google Maps either since the last hard reset. As the device wasn't hot all day long, I doubt if it was the GPS being on without me knowing.
However, I do expect it has something to do with one of the communication chips inside (GPS, WiFi, GSM, BT). Yesterday was the first night I have slept with the telephone NOT being in the flight mode. Normally I always use the flight mode so I can sleep without being disturbed. So possibly some 'bug' turns on one of the most draining comm chips for no reason at all.
Ofcourse I could disable the TFL3D, but then I will not know wheter it was really the solution. It might just as well be a one time thing...
@Murks-Muell...
Could this be punishment for me for the first few posts in this thread? Quite a coincidence!
205_lacoste said:
Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
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you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
Hornet331 said:
you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
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Yep, GPRS auto attach is disabled. Even so, even if it was on, it should not be able to drain the battery that much in one night, especially when nog program is running! I also use the GSM band (not 3G). Any other night my phone uses virtually no energy.
Battery going flat overnight happened to me on ONE occasion.
After recharging and switching on I noticed that the screen never went off, and it seemed that the device had somehow unticked the 'turn off if device is unused for xx seconds' setting.
I figured my device had woken up for some reason (maybe an all day appointment with a reminder that triggered at midnight), then just sat there draining with the screen on.
Ticked the setting, no other changes and I easily get 2 or 3 days normal usage again...
I have had this issue the first night and this morning nearly again. When I wake up and I started Opera to visit a news site and I have read some articles the phone stopped. There was no low battery signal.
OK,, I am not any kind of expert, I do good just to get me email working on this Tilt. But lately I have had very little battery life out of my Tilt which is now about 60 days old. I charge the phone every morning before I leave, and here it is, 1:30 pm and I have one bar of juice left. And before 5 pm, it will die of battery loss. the screen is not staying on all day, nor any other obvious drain on the battery.
Any one have any ideas??
Still on WM 6.0
Thanks
Scott
Scott in ark. said:
OK,, I am not any kind of expert, I do good just to get me email working on this Tilt. But lately I have had very little battery life out of my Tilt which is now about 60 days old. I charge the phone every morning before I leave, and here it is, 1:30 pm and I have one bar of juice left. And before 5 pm, it will die of battery loss. the screen is not staying on all day, nor any other obvious drain on the battery.
Any one have any ideas??
Still on WM 6.0
Thanks
Scott
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well check if your email is set to download complete email with attachments or only headers / upto a certain limit. Setting the email to download completely can drain up the battery especially if you have a lot of attachments downloading with it. Also heavy usage of the vibrate function can drain your battery pretty quickly
What radio are you running? I had the same problem until i tried a few different radios and settled on 1.58.25.17 . Make sure you check the ultimate radio thread for which roms support which radios.
Thank you both,,
On the email,, it is set to just download headers,, I have it checking three accounts, I am sure that helps drain it a bit, but seems like it should not be draining in an afternoon, and with little use I might add.
On the radio I am currently using 1.27.14.09. ,, does anyone have a BRIEF laymans description to the radio, is it just the"driver,or program used to run the radio? I am sure though that I can find how to change it in the forums.
Scott
try this Ultimate Radio Thread
also read up on the subject in the wiki. Updating a radio is quite similar to flashing your phone..if you dont know how then i suggest you goto the wiki and read up on it...
Cheers and all the best
Another Great Trick is if you are having it check email. Find KaiserTweak or Schap's AdvancedConfig and Find the Setting to Disconnect 3G connection after 2 minutes.
The Email Connects to your 3G connection and leaves it on all the time. 3G Sucks Battery. Using these tools to have it turn off after 2 minutes allows you to get mail and not loose a lot of battery power.
If you get really stuck then a nice rechargable external battery (like the one from Proporta) is nice to slide in your jacket pocket...
My problem also
Originally purchased my Tilt from New Egg. Special $179 w/$50 rebate from AT&T. Battery life was moderate. I have been a user of Pocket PCs' for a long time before buying a converged device, PDA Phone. Windows Mobile PDA platform uses a lot of battery, period.
When I say battery life moderate, I mean that, I could not get through an entire day with average usage without a recharge.
Recently my phone experienced a failure which required a warranty exchange.
The phone was replaced with a refurb unit from AT&T warranty service. The battery life was horrid. Normal usage for me is. Bluetooth running, two email accounts downloading every hour, weather bug mobile updating 30min and 1hr for various settings, occasional phone calls, web surfing (moderate) email reading, downloading attachments as needed, etc.
The phone replacement (warranty exchange) was experiencing, long charge times, inaccurate battery charge values (68% battery charge, upon reset 89%). Quick discharge (100% upon initiating call using bluetooth, 75% charge after 15 min.).
Returned phone to AT&T warranty service, had battery replaced with new! battery ( I say new because the battery I received with replacement had a dent on the metal part on back)
Fully recharged new battery, made a few calls. O.K.
Set WIFI on. Set GPS on. Set Bluetooth on. Surfed the web. used Resco Explorer to move files from computer to PDA/Phone. After one hour battery level is 91%.
My belief is that HTC ships defective product. I have read multiple threads about users having multiple problems, and users having no problem at all. Hmmm.
Hmm..
Afer two hours 90% battery
Hmm..
After two hours 90% battery
JimmyMcGee said:
Another Great Trick is if you are having it check email. Find KaiserTweak or Schap's AdvancedConfig and Find the Setting to Disconnect 3G connection after 2 minutes.
The Email Connects to your 3G connection and leaves it on all the time. 3G Sucks Battery. Using these tools to have it turn off after 2 minutes allows you to get mail and not loose a lot of battery power.
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JimmyMcGee,
One question on those,, I tried to install the Schap's advanced config, I put it on my SD card and tried to install it from there, the phone rejects it saying on of the MS drivers or something was out of date,, any typical problems that need fixed, or should I just try the Kaiser Tweaks?
Thanks,,
Scott
prabh said:
try this Ultimate Radio Thread
also read up on the subject in the wiki. Updating a radio is quite similar to flashing your phone..if you dont know how then i suggest you goto the wiki and read up on it...
Cheers and all the best
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prabh,
Thnx for the guidance on the radio,, I will look at that tonight and see what happens...
Scott
After 1.5 hour, battery 89%
All you geniuses
Before I post I may put on my flame retardant suit, NOMEX on. OK.
We keep looking for software repairs of these issues. These issues are hardware first and firmware second. Consider the source, which manufactured dog food. Some dogs died. Consider the source, which manufactured tires for cars. Some people died. Consider the Source, some Kaisers died. We can flash radios, OS's all day long. If the equipment has hardware problems. What is to be gained?
Two Hours
Two hours.
WIFI on. Bluetooth on. GPS on. 88% battery.
Variable product.
Scott in ark. said:
JimmyMcGee,
One question on those,, I tried to install the Schap's advanced config, I put it on my SD card and tried to install it from there, the phone rejects it saying on of the MS drivers or something was out of date,, any typical problems that need fixed, or should I just try the Kaiser Tweaks?
Thanks,,
Scott
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At this point, Yeah I'd use KaiserTweak then.
nycny said:
Before I post I may put on my flame retardant suit, NOMEX on. OK.
We keep looking for software repairs of these issues. These issues are hardware first and firmware second. Consider the source, which manufactured dog food. Some dogs died. Consider the source, which manufactured tires for cars. Some people died. Consider the Source, some Kaisers died. We can flash radios, OS's all day long. If the equipment has hardware problems. What is to be gained?
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What's to be gained? Software is easier to troubleshoot.
2.5 hrs
87% battrey
My point is
That all these tweaks may improve marginally a variably produced product.
The issue is that quality control and product management was lacking at the source. These things are pieces and parts. For the Original Poster.
I know you are a newbie. These folks consider me a newbie also, though I have been involved with product support and maintenance for more than 35 years. Take your device to an AT&T warranty service center. First ask for a replacement of device and battery.
After several hours 87% battery.
4.0 hrs
85% battery
HTC ships defective Product
HTC ships defective Product. Guard yourself.
Hello guys!
It's nearlly my first posting here, but i'm reading this forum for quite a while now.
I finally got an Xda diamond and everything was ok the first couple of days, even the battery was satisfying. When i use it really much, the battery lasts for about a day, that's ok. But 2 days ago, suddenly the battery got empty from 100% down to 0% in 7 hours, although i did not use the phone much. I had a call for about an hour and that's it.
Knowing there are some possibilities to save energy, i followed some advice from this forum:
- took down the display light to stage 2
- switched off UMTS
- switched off GPS
- installed powermanagement.cab
- switched off RSS Hub auto-download
- made sure there are no applications running in the background all day
- made sure there are no data-connections like Bluetooth or GPRS running all day
I also installed PowerGuard v1.2 which told me, my Diamond drains about 65 mA, what seems to be a proper value, comparing to other peoples around here.
This morning i took the Diamond off the charging cable at 8:00 and it switched off at 16:00. I only used it for a 1 hour phone call again, thats all. I did not do anything else with it.
I don't unterstand, why it lasted much longer the first couple of days. Anybody have an idea?
Thx so far!
1. Check with Task Manager Cpu proccess
2. Hard Restet ?
I have the same problem AND additionally sudden softresets.
The battery is defect. I will buy a new one and o2 will refund the money.
wedge210483 said:
... But 2 days ago, suddenly the battery got empty from 100% down to 0% in 7 hours, although i did not use the phone much. I had a call for about an hour and that's it.
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The battery is not supposed to get empty to anywhere near 0%, it can be damaged if it does. The phone is supposed to turn off to prevent that happening.
If killing tasks does not help, maybe you just got a bad battery? Edit: ^^^ What he said!
Here's a useful link for information on Li-ion batteries: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Hi!
I recently found the solution. My sim-card was too old! I had been using it for about 4 years. A couple of days ago, I ordered a new one from my provider (O2 Germany) for free. Since I changed the sim-card, I never had any problems with the battery anymore.
Why didn't I find this advice anywhere?
Cheers
Your SIM card was "too old"? My technical prowess is nothing to brag about, but even I can tell you that that could hardly have been the cause.
Older Sims seem to drain more battery power...
I have to agree with H3x ... I don't see how a SIM card would have any effect on battery life.
As a point of reference, I'm very satisfied with my battery life. I charge it for an hour or two a couple times a week. I am diligent about turning off WiFi, Bluetooth, and running apps when not in use, but other than that I don't do anything special.
With GSM band manually selected in phone options and moderate use, my diamond can last over 2 days, with "auto" band selection it barely lasts a day...it just drains stock battery so much, even in standby...but I still can't be happier with my device, no matter what
Decided to watch battery more carefully over PowerGuard, some things started to make more sense...
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With GSM band manually selected in phone options and moderate use, my diamond can last over 2 days
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Yeah, I have that selected too, so I'm sure that helps. Maybe the OP should try it?
I can't figure out why after complete off my phone still drains battery like 20% in 24 hours.
How i figured? I charged phone to 100%. Switched off and left home for a week.
After coming back i found phone dead to zero and it took me some efforts to make it alive.
Then i decided that maybe i left it on. I took sim card away, charged to full, wiped and off.... After 24 hours i switched on and found thta phone drained 20%.
Phone SM-N950W
Any suggestions on what it might be?
Batteries discharge over time by themselves, but not at the rate you obseved, the phone, even when off, also uses energy to keep some things running, as time and date and a service watching the power button among others, but, again, at a lower rate than you are experimenting
Install Greenify and Naptime.
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If you have powered off your device, there shouldn't be any power drain.
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If you have powered off your device, there shouldn't be any power drain.
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I understand that it should not, but it is.
I can't understand how is it possible.
When phone is on, it behave like it should be with 4.5 hours screen on time and like working day with average load. But when i turn phone off, no matter what happen it consume 20% in 24 hours.
I tried to look threads with similar problem but all i could find related to switched on phone.
I guess its time to visit service center.
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I understand that it should not, but it is.
I can't understand how is it possible.
When phone is on, it behave like it should be with 4.5 hours screen on time and like working day with average load. But when i turn phone off, no matter what happen it consume 20% in 24 hours.
I tried to look threads with similar problem but all i could find related to switched on phone.
I guess its time to visit service center.
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Yeah I would go to a service center. I don't think the battery is literally draining 20% when off, it's more likely an issue with the battery capacity itself not holding a full charge like it should. Still, that would require service.
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Install Greenify and Naptime.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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I think you misunderstood the post. His phone is off. As in, it's not on. Not just put to sleep or the screen is off. The device is completely and entirely switched off. These apps won't do anything if the device is off.
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In short I visited Service Center today. They told that battery is fine and the issues in Motherboard. Since I live in Exynos region no chance for me to fix this. Internals of the phone are different.
To send phone in Canada from Russia is unreasonable. So I have to accept this and live further.
Leejay1953 said:
No I didn't! My SGS 2 that had the same inexplicable battery drain when switched off. The battery got into deep discharge. As the battery was removable, I modified an AC adaptor with the same voltage to "kick start" the battery. That worked a couple of times. In the end I had to say good bye to my first Samsung phone. What actually led to the discharge was never discovered. I only remember that the phone got wet during a day long cycle tour. 6 months later the problem developed. That's why I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem. I hope this guy gives us a feed back if he finds out what the problem was. Cheers LJ
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He didnt say you misunderstood, he was actually replying to someone else. Check the quote
Leejay1953 said:
No I didn't! My SGS 2 that had the same inexplicable battery drain when switched off. The battery got into deep discharge. As the battery was removable, I modified an AC adaptor with the same voltage to "kick start" the battery. That worked a couple of times. In the end I had to say good bye to my first Samsung phone. What actually led to the discharge was never discovered. I only remember that the phone got wet during a day long cycle tour. 6 months later the problem developed. That's why I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem. I hope this guy gives us a feed back if he finds out what the problem was. Cheers LJ
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I wasn't replying to you, now was I? I quoted someone else whom I was replying to, as Sefrcoko also mentioned.
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He didnt say you misunderstood, he was actually replying to someone else. Check the quote
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Thank you for also pointing that out.