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iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance

1) no
2) not sure
3) it's alright. Compared to my previous phones like tx, t, zl it's a bit off.
Ill be honest with you, z may not have the best specs Or screen Or whatever. But once you hold it in your hands you don't want to let it go.
S4 has features, but it's a phone that I cant bring out to show off.
The z, it's a beauty with water proof, a phone that I'm proud of to bring out with confidence. I don't even know how to explain the beauty and sexiness of the phone. It's like better than looking at girls ( okay I'm going to far) but you understand what I mean lol.

abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few quee and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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It's actually just 2x quad so in terms of speed, there's no difference
2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
3 I have no problem with the speaker, compared to s2 I find the quality better here.
But the speaker will get low for about 30 minutes if you drop the phone in water.
The S4 will melt if you drop it in water.
If you're really unsure just test both devices. I went with the Z for waterproof, I myself was faced with this decision. (but with HTC1)

OsiBasi said:
2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
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Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet

Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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gm007 said:
Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair

cvi emEasted
I am about to buy a smartphone like you do.
1- for the hardware there is really not much of a difference between the two in raw power..
2- camera is not so bad, i think it's on par with the S4 without the iAuto mod.. but software will be improved, and you always can use mods..
3- sound quality, have no idea, i still need to buy the phone.. but i guess it will be ok.. but i don't use speaker to listen to song.. so i don't care even if it was low..
I will go with the xperia z, its just beautiful, hardware? almost the same.
i was considering the nexus 4, because of the fast updates ecc ecc..
but the Z is just amazing... so i will buy it next week.

MadManMark said:
Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair
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But we have to believe someone don't you think so?or we all talking bul***t
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Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Don't be so rude, why would you try to make me into a fool when you have no clue... Christ

abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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A rly Great thanks to all of u guys that rly made me cool down............at first i saw gsmarena.com and phonearena.com i thought xperia z was horrible.......but now i think iam gonna to pick it up......THANKS AGAIN

RoChinu said:
If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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And the first batches with galaxy s4 will come with snapdragon and not exynos. New octa exynos chips arent even being massproduced just yet and might take awhile. (P.S. This info might being outdated, this is what I last heard.)
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XSP camera

guyz when i take photos with my sp 8 MP the photos looks like minus 8 MP not 8
reallly we should do something about this we have paid for 8 mp camera not a potato camera !!
pm: i used pro capture and many other applications but the shots arenot even near to any samsung 8 mp phone while the video recording isnot that bad

Known issue. Some say hardware some say software. I believe that this is a software matter. You need to turn off superior and go to normal. I also installed the stock ICS app (search XDA or go to Google Play).
For me the main issue is yellow inside the picture when i take one at night with flash on.. But like i said i believe this is a software issue

if its a software problem then its a disaster and if its a hardware problem then its a ****en disaster .. how come
yea btw i noticed that yellow dominance on the photo but u can solve it using procapture but the over all quality still sux

Well it is not a disaster since a software bug can be patched and a hardware bug needs to be replaced or fixed by a service centre

Outdoor pictures seems ok for me if I am not using the superior auto mode. However yellowish pictures during the night sucks. Seems like the white balance in the software is messed up. Just change the white balance mode to incandescent during night.

Well day time shots look fairly nice in my opinion. During the indoor,moderate light and low light conditions there is a lot of noise and video is exceptionally bad. Im not really sure as to what the problem is, the Sony Exmor sensor is supposed to be really good tech, so im hoping its a software bug. Or it could be that the mobile version of the exmor sensor used in the XSP just isint a good lowlight performer. Your guess is as good as mine
Btw if you guys are rooted with CWM then i suggest u take a look at this mod.After flashing this my camera performed slightly better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435374

I think it'll be hardware tbh, surely If it was software somebody would've created a fix?

King p1n said:
I think it'll be hardware tbh, surely If it was software somebody would've created a fix?
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ye u r 90% correct as if it would have been software sm1 or other would hav fixed it
but till date bo1
so its clear that its pathetic camera hardware from sony

sanket_naik08 said:
ye u r 90% correct as if it would have been software sm1 or other would hav fixed it
but till date bo1
so its clear that its pathetic camera hardware from sony
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It's not easy to make a fix for camera ! It would probably need rewriting of some libraries and require a lot of skills. It's not very likely that we have someone who can do that in or XSP community. Plus the camera libraries are probably not open source so it will be even more difficult.
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pec0ra said:
It's not easy to make a fix for camera ! It would probably need rewriting of some libraries and require a lot of skills. It's not very likely that we have someone who can do that in or XSP community. Plus the camera libraries are probably not open source so it will be even more difficult.
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I agree, we cant be quick to blame the hardware. Camera libs are sony's proprietary software so i dont think theres much we can do atm(hack ,modify etc). In time im sure sony will release a fix, quite possibly in the upcoming 4.3 update.
Cheers

Still dont believe its a software issue.
What makes everybody think Sony will solve it via update?

King p1n said:
Still dont believe its a software issue.
What makes everybody think Sony will solve it via update?
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I never said Sony will fix it. I said it is complicated to fix. Hopefully Sony or another developer will do it but it is not very likely. We shouldn't stop to hope anyway!
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CM camera works way faster than Sony's.
(I'm running an unreleased,non official CM10.1 on my C5303)

[Q] can someone help me stop heavy post processing?

I have a sony xperia Z C6603 and I absolutely hate something about the phone. Before i take pictures it looks great (amazing even) as i take the photo the picture is perfect, then after a second it processes it so much i look more like an alien from outer space than a human being. Not only this but the files are also ridiculously small compare to all other phones. I've downloaded the FV-5 app and it's great, but my photos from my front camera stll lokks like horse s***. i do not want other setting configurations, because nothing fixes it... Has anybody made a fix for this via rooting or whatever? i've searched all over the internet after a solution , but can't seem to find one. One of you geniuses must have a solution, right? (have the 4.3 android version and 10.4.B.0.569 build number).

Not yet. People have tried.many things but.no luck so far. At least Sony finally updated the camera app which was the same since x1 was released
[email protected] Z

indycar said:
Not yet. People have tried.many things but.no luck so far. At least Sony finally updated the camera app which was the same since x1 was released
[email protected] Z
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geez.... Yah... my photos did not get better at all, haha. If they could just change the format to JPG or whatever (know that is big files) that would be fantastic, but nooo.... (now referring to sony and not XDA-developers) Great phone, TERRIBLE photo software.

mrdalesen said:
I have a sony xperia Z C6603 and I absolutely hate something about the phone. Before i take pictures it looks great (amazing even) as i take the photo the picture is perfect, then after a second it processes it so much i look more like an alien from outer space than a human being. Not only this but the files are also ridiculously small compare to all other phones. I've downloaded the FV-5 app and it's great, but my photos from my front camera stll lokks like horse s***. i do not want other setting configurations, because nothing fixes it... Has anybody made a fix for this via rooting or whatever? i've searched all over the internet after a solution , but can't seem to find one. One of you geniuses must have a solution, right? (have the 4.3 android version and 10.4.B.0.569 build number).
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Yes, Sony's post processing is ****.
Unfortunately, there is no solution as of yet.
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if you have extensive knowledge with camera settings you could try using manual mode and set everything yourself.

spazzy1912 said:
if you have extensive knowledge with camera settings you could try using manual mode and set everything yourself.
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That does not help with the secondary camera, it's bad quality no matter what I do.
My girlfriend has a Iphone 5 which deinitely takes better pictures than mine, I think you all agree that this is unacceptable, we must stand together and crush the underpowered Iphone with the wrath of our mighty hardware and fixed software!

mrdalesen said:
That does not help with the secondary camera, it's bad quality no matter what I do.
My girlfriend has a Iphone 5 which deinitely takes better pictures than mine, I think you all agree that this is unacceptable, we must stand together and crush the underpowered Iphone with the wrath of our mighty hardware and fixed software!
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we can see it two ways
the camera hardware sucks and we can't do anything about it
or the camera software sucks and we have to wait for sony to update their binaries and libraries and other stuff. which we also cannot do anything about.

I agree...when I first looked at myself trough the front camera I thought if I brought a renovated phone with a broken camera...

Mijiwo said:
I agree...when I first looked at myself trough the front camera I thought if I brought a renovated phone with a broken camera...
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Yup, such a waste, it's such a great phone

Hello!
I have installed AOKP 4.3 ROM on my Xperia Z. When I need to take a fast picture, I just use auto ISO/Exposure...
When I wanna get better picture in low light, I just use a little bit tweaking In low light, when I'm taking picture of some close object, I just put ISO on 100/200 (max), use flash and that's it! When I'm taking picture a little bit further (3/4 meters), I use 200/400 ISO, and use flash if I can (very big con of our device is bad flash). When I'm doing night portrait, just put ISO on 400 and turn on HDR, photos will look awsome believe me
Tonight I could upload some pictures from my Z, just to give you some clue.
P.S. When you're using front camera, turn on HDR you will get a much better photo quality

MARKOZD15 said:
Hello!
I have installed AOKP 4.3 ROM on my Xperia Z. When I need to take a fast picture, I just use auto ISO/Exposure...
When I wanna get better picture in low light, I just use a little bit tweaking In low light, when I'm taking picture of some close object, I just put ISO on 100/200 (max), use flash and that's it! When I'm taking picture a little bit further (3/4 meters), I use 200/400 ISO, and use flash if I can (very big con of our device is bad flash). When I'm doing night portrait, just put ISO on 400 and turn on HDR, photos will look awsome believe me
Tonight I could upload some pictures from my Z, just to give you some clue.
P.S. When you're using front camera, turn on HDR you will get a much better photo quality
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Thank you so much, I will definitely try!
I found oyt that the HDR was turned on, the picture quality is still terrible....

mrdalesen said:
Thank you so much, I will definitely try!
I found oyt that the HDR was turned on, the picture quality is still terrible....
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Did you turned off 'soft tan effect'' or something like this? It helps a bit on stock ROM (Honami camera app)
I'm using AOKP ROM and I have better front camera picture quality than my friend (Galaxy S4), I just turned on HDR

MARKOZD15 said:
Did you turned off 'soft tan effect'' or something like this? It helps a bit on stock ROM (Honami camera app)
I'm using AOKP ROM and I have better front camera picture quality than my friend (Galaxy S4), I just turned on HDR
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I just flashed the ROM after aloooooooot of work and I currently have the PAC-MAN ROM and the picture quality is amazing. It takes pictures in JPEG automaticallly and the files aren't that big! If anyone wants to do this I can deliver some links which actually unlocks bootloader, roots and flashes ROM, looked for the right downloads for ages.

[Q] XperiaZ1 cam noise

Hey, I finally got a Z1 couple of days back and really disappointed with the cam noise. It is in 8MP 16:9 mode and the noise is too much.It is the best low light cam I have seen in Xperia range but I havent seen such amount of noise in the ****ty chinese phones either. I updated the firmware to the latest one based on JB 4.3 before I install my apps. Even when I zoom images on the PC, they are really blurry. Will provide some samples and other info soon.
Are there any fixes that I can apply? I tried the manual mode too but that doesnt really help. Btw, this is my first 1080P screen.
Thanks.
Here are samples :
Code:
https://app.box.com/s/35sxjwat0a64t9zhh7lp

The main problem it's not on the camera, it's on the software. So it can be fixed, let's wait for another build. KK 4.4 on next build seems offering much camera improvements
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The quality of the pictures was improved a bit with the update .136. Also I saw few confirmations about improvement even on 4.4. More space in MB per JPG but less noise. It's all about software so it will be better and better gradually with the updates. Just a bit of patience.

omegahanggara said:
The main problem it's not on the camera, it's on the software. So it can be fixed, let's wait for another build. KK 4.4 on next build seems offering much camera improvements
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Yeah, I am aware of that. Thats why I said "fixes". I believe there is too much of compression. Sad to see that there is no 16:9 option for 20MP.

oxycash said:
Yeah, I am aware of that. Thats why I said "fixes". I believe there is too much of compression. Sad to see that there is no 16:9 option for 20MP.
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Well, I think Sony focused on create something new, rather than improving their previous work. IDK.
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If you don't want noise with Xperia Z1 shots, use Manual Mode and set the ISO preferrably to 50, or a little higher if the image would otherwise be too dark. At ISO-50 the images are basically noise free.
I can't mention enough how this supposedly "Superior" auto mode is far from superior. Try not to use it, unless you need a picture of something quickly or don't mind the quality.

Reclaim of the camera

Hello dear xda users,
as we know, our xperia Z doesn´t have the best camera. I have it for several months. In my case, it makes worse pictures then mid-range devices I used before it, especially in the indoor daylight conditions. I noticed there are some tips to make it better in manual mode, but still it isn´t a win.
So what do you think, could it be reclaimable? Do you have some experience with it?
Thanks for your opinions.

marek.ns said:
Hello dear xda users,
as we know, our xperia Z doesn´t have the best camera. I have it for several months. In my case, it makes worse pictures then mid-range devices I used before it, especially in the indoor daylight conditions. I noticed there are some tips to make it better in manual mode, but still it isn´t a win.
So what do you think, could it be reclaimable? Do you have some experience with it?
Thanks for your opinions.
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Some softwares can help you produce better results.However they would not by nay means increase your camera pixels or anything but only help you focus better with better exposure and produce better colours
Like for example if you snap documents from your phone camera, camscanner can do wonders.
There are other applications for taking pictures as well on playstore.
Quote me if you have any other question

Hnk1 said:
Some softwares can help you produce better results.However they would not by nay means increase your camera pixels or anything but only help you focus better with better exposure and produce better colours
Like for example if you snap documents from your phone camera, camscanner can do wonders.
There are other applications for taking pictures as well on playstore.
Quote me if you have any other question
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Thanks for your answer!
I tried some other camera apps but photos still have ISO set too high what makes big noise at them.
I found some cyber-shot app/xposed module. Does it worth for try, could it make better photos?
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marek.ns said:
Thanks for your answer!
I tried some other camera apps but photos still have ISO set too high what makes big noise at them.
I found some cyber-shot app/xposed module. Does it worth for try, could it make better photos?
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Personally I haven't used it but it's worth a try. You never know if you never try!

Hnk1 said:
Personally I haven't used it but it's worth a try. You never know if you never try!
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If any software dont improve my photos, could i use my Warranty?
I know it is not about opinion, thats why ask about some experience.

marek.ns said:
If any software dont improve my photos, could i use my Warranty?
I know it is not about opinion, thats why ask about some experience.
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If you think your camera is faulty, only then Sony can help you with your warranty. However you can visit a Sony care and discuss your problem with them. They might be able to help.