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I know there are some people like myself who actually like Sense and doing a 'full' root can be daunting, especailly if all you want to do is remove the crud that Vodafone or your Telco install on your branded Legend. But there is no reason this can't be used to remove apps that are in a custom ROM - as far as I am aware! If someone with a custom ROM could confirm this, that would be great!
Righto, as per usual here is the disclaimer - doing this is risky and you do so at your own peril! Don't come crying to me or Paul @ MoDaCo if it bricks your phone (it shouldn't but this is just a warning)
Enough of that you get the idea Now for the fun bit!
First if you are not you'll need VISIONary+ from MoDaCo, at the time of this writing r13 is the latest and is available on page 7.
Please read and check the original post as there may be an updated version. If you are rooted skip to the next step.
This is Paul's guide he done quickly on his G2, it's more of a pictorial guide (same rules apply to the Legend as G2 in this case).
Once installed use the Temproot option, this can take 15 seconds or so to complete, use a Terminal Emulator and type su then return/enter and your $ should change to a # - this means you have temproot.
Go to the market and install SuperUser, Titanium Backup, BusyBox.
Open Titanium Backup allowing it root access when prompted, go to Backup/Restore and scroll to find one of the preinstalled bloatware apps, I chose the Vodafone Music app and the Vodafone Web app.
Long hold on the app you want to remove and scroll down a bit and choose the option "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)"
This will reboot your phone TWICE, you will get the recovery screen up - LET IT RUN IT's COURSE! DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
Once it boots back into your normal check that the app is no longer in your App drawer
Repeat for all the Apps that came preinstalled that you don't want, just be careful you don't remove anything that may still be needed!
A huge thanks to Paul at MoDaCo for this ingenious hack and the Titanium Backup, BusyBox and SuperUser developers for their hard work in writing their apps which also allow us to easy do this
Oh and you can use the Temproot on boot to have a sortof but not fully permaroot
Great work. I'll try on CM 6.1 RC1. One thing though...If I'm rooted I presume I need only the Titanium backup not VISIONary or other tools, right?
Yes you need the other apps, but you can remove them afterwards if you want. You'll need SuperUser to be able to grant Titanium Backup access, and Titanium Backup requires BusyBox to be installed - Titanium Backup gives you the option to install BusyBox if you press the 'Problems?' button under the Overview tab.
PS: you can use the free version of Titanium Backup for this exercise.
Yes, thank you. I knew about busybox and the option to install it from Titanium. SuperUser I have it already since I'm using CyanogenMod RC1 and it is included in the ROM (I think it is OK like this). So only Titanium (+busybox) needs to be installed.
I'll give it a try and let you know the results. I'll try to remove a rather large application (for ex Google Maps) and I'll install it afterward on the sdcard (since it is system appl, it cannot be moved directly to sdcard)
Later edit: IT WORKS! So I've tried to (and succeeded) remove 2 "system" applications: Google Maps and Calculator. Both were removed and the free space is now available (before 80 Mb free, after 91.2 Mb free).
There was only one issue with Maps, the icon still showed up in the application drawer and it was working (even after going through all above). After several checks I found the reason. The Maps were installed twice...the version included in the CM ROM (that was deleted by this procedure) AND the updated Maps (it once asked for upgrading the application from the market and I did that). After removing the "system installed" version of Google Maps, the "updates" remained. I went to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and I found Maps there. I've uninstalled the updates then rebooted the phone. After that the icon was gone completely.
To conclude, for CM ROMS (or for all phones that are already rooted and have already the SU application), the steps to be performed for removing a system appl are:
1. Install Titanium Backup
2. Press (as instructed) "Problems" button. This will install a working version of busybox.
3. Check if the application you want to remove, has also updates (from Market or some other places) installed. If YES, go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and uninstall all the updates.
4. Start Titanium Backup and perform the steps indicated in the first post by TheLegendaryJay.
So it is working on custom ROM's as well and you don't need VISIONary or other application/tools.
All credits go to Paul, CM team and this whole community, the ones which made such things possible for our phones. TheLegendaryJay, thank you also for sharing this with us. Perhaps for rooted phones it is easier to remove applications with adb commands, but some are maybe not so technical to install the SDK or know how to use it (I can be counted as one of them), or they just might want to remove an application when they don't have a pc with SDK nearby.
yap, can confirm this. works great on cm 6.1 rc1. thanks for the hint
For you guys who are rooted - why not just flash the overlay filesystem patch, enable it, and then use any file explorer and go to /system/app/ and delete the apps you dont want? just a tip, it's much easier.. (and takes less time)
Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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As I understand it, the system folder is only linked so the phone believes it's on the SD-card. This should mean, no extra space is taken (except for the few kB that makes this possible). i could be wrong, but I use system overlay and I see no whatsoever decrease in performance. Not in benchmarks nor in usage.
If you are rooted - and dont want system overlay, I still think there is a better wway - ADB! just mount system, cd to system/app, ls it and rm whatever apps ypu dont want.. no need for multiple reboots - quick and effective
adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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When it comes to ADB, you must write the filename exactly as it is, if you want to remove Facebook.apk you must rm Facebook.apk, not facebook.apk or just rm Facebook*
What I do, I ls all files, copy the filenames I want to remove into into a txt file. ex. "rm facebook.apk Torch.apk voiceDialer.apk AndroidTerm.apk" and so on. When I flash a new rom, i just copy that file string and remove em all with that one command ofc. I ls it after and check if there is anything new I want to remove, but I get rid of most of it in a few seconds. (good tip!)
I understood that. Now I've checked again and I know what happened...the same thing I said above. The appl was removed also with adb command but the updates of that appl were not. I've removed the updates from Settings and after that the whole appl was gone (Facebook in this case). So both metods work, everyone can choose what he likes more
Anyway this was much more to test if it's working on custom ROMs as was asked by TheLegendaryJay and less as of providing an alternate way for rooted owners.
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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thanks for this, great info. Now I'm glad I use adb and not file overlay for removing files
Why's that? Overlay is really handy thing for testing... U can make the system think that the file is not there but in fact is. If something goes wrong (boot loop) because of that, U just disable overlay and U R back on with origial state. After U are satisfied with changes, U can merge those changes into read-only file system via recovery mode.
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BlaY0, you're totally right. Overlay is a great thing for testing (and by the way many thanks you for what you did). But if you're not a tester, just an enthusiast who look for new stuff for his phone, overlay could be much more than he needs.
I'm looking for example to have as much free space in memory as possible. REAL free space. If I'm using overlay, that will not be gained right? The read only files will still be there, only the overlay will show them "deleted". So...what I'm doing instead is that I'm flashing one of the existing ROMs (as per my preferences - CM 6.1 RC1 for ex.) that will not "brick" my phone, I customize it with widgets and applications as I like, than I start deleting what I don't need. For sure I can use overlay for that, but I can do it also without it. This topic presented an alternative for doing that, to the known adb commands. Also from what I've understood, the method in this topic is more aimed to the ones that are not (or don't want to be) rooted. And for those, the adb method doesn't work
You sure are totally right, but then again if you deleted some apk from /system/app that is needed for some other apk and U didn't know about that, you could end up with a so called boot loop. And if this is done by some noob, the simplest way for him to restore would be to wipe and reflash the original ROM. Overay can prevent such accidents. Actually even with overlay you can save space especially where is needed the most, that's on data partition - there's no need for dex in dalvik-cache any more etc. and surely you get more free ram as that app isn't loading any more. For the system partition it actually doesn't matter if it is full in fact why it shouldn't be full. When we get our S-OFF the first thing I will do is to rearange mtd partitions shrinking system and extending data coz now I have like nearly 50 MB free on system partition that I can not use wisely.
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Thanks, VF music and web app not banished from my Legend
Okay, I must be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. I have the same ROM as Rapier on my Desire, I have Titanium Backup and I did everything he said above. The pre-installed apps are uninstalled with TB (Car app, News and Weather, Facebook, Twitter, Google Voice, Maps, Quickoffice 2.0 which I have no idea what really is), I clear the Dalvik cache and many mega are freed. Then if I reboot, they're back. Like nothing happened.
Do you have any idea or should I give more details? Thanks for the help, guys.
Have you checked also if those applications you're removing do not have some updates installed? Because if they do, you'll get them back on the phone. First remove the updates from each application (from normal "Application" management), then remove the application residing in system with TB.
PS. QuickOffice is a suite program similar with MS Office, that allows you to read (and in the paid version also to write) office documents (.doc, .xls, .ppt...etc)
Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes, I have checked and uninstalled all updates. They are all with the basic version.
About Quickoffice, I know what it is It's just that the one that came with CM 6.1.0 RC1 cannot be accessed, it can only be used to open supported file formats (I just found out after posting here ). I'd prefer the normal Quickoffice with which I can access my dropbox and Google docs too, that's why I wanted to uninstall this in the first place.
Even for apps I have purchased before (Samurai II for example)
I want to buy Sprinkle and I cannot!!
Doesn't say they're incompatible for me...
are you looking at sprinkle free? you won't even see the full version if browsing on your phone.
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Both show up just fine on my phone. I even downloaded and played it. I'm running CM7 though. Could be a firmware difference.
Just checked and got the same problem with stock rom. Says that device is not compatible, any solutions except flashing cm?
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i think u done something wrong setting in karnel..
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patelbhai said:
i think u done something wrong setting in karnel..
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Probably not, no.
Sounds like a cache size problem. I believe stock firmware only allows a ~30mb cache size for downloading apps from the market. That means, in the event that the app is too large, it simply cannot download and install the entire app. But this is only the market's download cache.
A simple solution is to install the apk file seperate from using the market app. There's also a terminal fix that creates are larger, temporary cache. I can't remember the command off the top of my head, but I'm sure a quick search will produce positive results. I'm sure a large portion of custom ROMs—especially those the farthest away from stock—have this issue rectified. If not, search for the workaroud or install the apk yourself.
Good luck!
Ok let me explain more.
I have purchased Samurai II Vengeance from the market a while back. The apk size is a little over 40mb but it is still available for purchase and I was able to download it.
With the new market, even I have purchased the app, Samurai II Vengeance is not being displayed in the market. Not even under my purchased apps.
The problem is even i can bypass the cache problem by running some script to increase my cache size, those apps are not showing up so I cannot download even I know my cache size is big enough.
Just wanted to chime in here. Using a JVT ROM with a repartitioned device that has 60MB cache - Market version is 3.3.11. Searching for "third blade" as an example, does not return the app. It's completely hidden. Using the market website, the app shows "This item is not compatible with your device."
yobbei said:
Ok let me explain more.
The problem is even i can bypass the cache problem by running some script to increase my cache size, those apps are not showing up so I cannot download even I know my cache size is big enough.
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Why not try uninstalling market updates?
it's a market problem
Gun bros is working fine here
use chainfire 3d app from the market... install nvidia and qualcomm plugins (explained in chainfires post)... and select market fix... all apps would be restored... the new market only shows power vr based apps and doesnt shw the rest... but we always ve brilliant chainfire and his apps for the rescue...
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Probably not, no.
Sounds like a cache size problem. I believe stock firmware only allows a ~30mb cache size...
There's also a terminal fix that creates are larger, temporary cache.
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Yes, it is a cache problem, and Yes making a "virtual cache partition" does make it bigger (i now have ~52 mb cache)...BUT, the Market doesn't know that my cache is bigger now! it still shows larger apps as "incompatible"
Is there a way to bypass these market restrictions somehow?
ps: reason i'm so desperate, is "World of Goo" just landed in android market!! I can run the Demo (28mb) alright, but full version is still "incompatible" (47mb). I'm willing to pay! just give me a chance!
i have same problem too. i cant install blood and glory.
error is " errorwhile downloading "BLOOD & GLORY ". There is insufficient space on the device." but i installed BLOOD % GLORY ( NR ) version.
another error is smurf's village isnt available for your device.
my rom is cm7
I think it's cache problem alright. The easiest way, I think, is to go CM7
Ok, kinda new to this android malarkey.
So if i reset to factory reset, will it remove my root access?
I did a search but i couldnt find anything specific to the KFHD.
No-one?? Just need a yea/ney...?
JaffAWooD said:
No-one?? Just need a yea/ney...?
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I am not positive but I would say , yes , you will lose root...
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I am not positive but I would say , yes , you will lose root...
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Ok, no worries. Thank you for your reply!
On a similar subject, can anyone recommend a good ccleaner-esque app for the KFHD?
Why u wanna losse root with out root kindle is trash
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Why u wanna losse root with out root kindle is trash
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I think trash is probably a bit harsh..... but anyway i was asking so i DONT loose the root
I did reset to factory defaults and did not loose root. Some people on this forum say that you will. I asked exactly the same question before resetting and was told root will be gone. I had to reset so i had no other choice however tablet was still rooted. Google play store was untouched too. Maybe i was just lucky.
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So far have done a factory reset via the software option choice twice with root on the HD and have not lost it both times. If you do lose root as you have just Factory reset should not take that much time to put it back on the HD.
Superuser and the 'su' binary reside on the system partition.
On the original KFs, the stock 'factory reset' wipes the data and media (sdcard) partitions. On 2nd devices, there is no media partition, only one large data partition is used for both, so that gets wiped.
Wiping the system partition would leave you without an OS to boot to and with no way to restore it, so it is left alone, thus you keep your "root".
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
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Superuser and the 'su' binary reside on the system partition.
On the original KFs, the stock 'factory reset' wipes the data and media (sdcard) partitions. On 2nd devices, there is no media partition, only one large data partition is used for both, so that gets wiped.
Wiping the system partition would leave you without an OS to boot to and with no way to restore it, so it is left alone, thus you keep your "root".
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
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Erm,,, sorry. Please excuse my mild retardation...
Does that mean if i do, do a factory reset my root/gplay/SU files will still be there? (that that i took from what you said but wanted/needed to be sure!)
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Erm,,, sorry. Please excuse my mild retardation...
Does that mean if i do, do a factory reset my root/gplay/SU files will still be there? (that that i took from what you said but wanted/needed to be sure!)
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Superuser and SU are untouched. Gplay, I'm not sure about...it depends on where everything is installed. I say that because on my 1st gen, where GApps were installed via recovery, the "com.android.vending.apk" is under '/data/app' rather than '/system/app' (not entirely sure why). The GApps.zip package itself doesn't contain a vending.apk so I'm guessing(?) that it's installed after the fact...but to be honest with you, I have no idea.
You should take a look in your '/data/app' folder to make sure there are no Gplay dependent or other necessary packages and make a backup of your data partition just in case.
"That's a special kind of stupid. The kind that makes me laugh."
thanks for your help mate..
basically, i reset it and all is well!
What do you recommend for launchers...? Rocking GoLauncherHD at the mo and its pretty nice least i prefer it over EX.
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JaffAWooD said:
Ok, kinda new to this android malarkey.
So if i reset to factory reset, will it remove my root access?
I did a search but i couldnt find anything specific to the KFHD.
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JaffAWooD,
Absolutely. When you perform a Factory Reset, everything in /system/xbin is reset to factory defaults.
The su binary is stored in /system/xbin.
You will have the false appearance of being rooted since the /system/app is kept intact, this is where
you will find Superuser.apk. Although, sometimes Factory Resets are needed to solve major issues
and re-rooting is not difficult:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
I lost root after factory reset. But it was easier to root the second time. Be sure to be careful with what files you do/did change. I messed up some factory files because of tinkering before reset..
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prokennexusa said:
JaffAWooD,
Absolutely. When you perform a Factory Reset, everything in /system/xbin is reset to factory defaults.
The su binary is stored in /system/xbin.
You will have the false appearance of being rooted since the /system/app is kept intact, this is where
you will find Superuser.apk. Although, sometimes Factory Resets are needed to solve major issues
and re-rooting is not difficult:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply. I have the feeling i have opened a can of worms here - i understood the (basic) defination of 'root' was the ability to get into the system/app folder to load apps/games/loaders etc, etc.. Is this not the case? because after the reset i can still do this using ES File Explorer..?
My brain is beginning to ache! lol I appriciate all the help though...
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JaffAWooD said:
Hi,
Thank you for your reply. I have the feeling i have opened a can of worms here - i understood the (basic) defination of 'root' was the ability to get into the system/app folder to load apps/games/loaders etc, etc.. Is this not the case? because after the reset i can still do this using ES File Explorer..?
My brain is beginning to ache! lol I appriciate all the help though...
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JaffAWooD,
No worries, we are here to help you. Ask as many times as needed until you obtain the answer you need. This
forum was not designed for all experts! To Root the Kindle - the term 'Root' is to give the user 'Superpowers'
which allows you to change the Kindles appearance, install Google Play Store, change the Graphical interface,
etc. When you have Superpowers or specifically Superuser Powers, you will be able to move or remove
programs in the /system/app folder. Now these Powers need to be used with cation since they can also damage
the Kindle if you remove the wrong program that is dependent on the Kindles primary operation. You can install
most programs and games without Root. It is the more advanced programs that may require 'Root Permissions'
to run. Read the description in Google Play Store, it will specifically say 'requires root to function'. Most
Launchers like Go Launcher do not need Root access to function properly. Google Play Store on the other
hand requires Root to install and function properly although most of the Google Applications can be
installed without root. One of the ones that does require root is Gmail since it is dependent on the
Sync Services which is installed directly into the /system/app folder. You will be able to use ES File
Explorer after the Factory Reset, although you will not be able to move or remove anything in
/system/app - does this help a little?
Okay, so here's how it goes. And keep note: I have an SD card installed at all times. Also thanks again if anyone can help even though this isn't really ROM-related...
I installed an app called Luck Patcher. It modifies apps via root. I know there are risks with modding an app (could add whatever the app wants like malware or adware without me knowing) but I was using it to get rid of ads on some apps that were ad-ridden! But, eventually the app Lucky Patcher started showing notification ads also. So, I tapped and held down on the notification and tap the crossed out alarm icon to silence it. (You know--in Lollipop). Anyway, another ad came up after a while, and I tried to do as before--hold down the notification and silence it. But I must have accidentally tapped it. But the ad was a Chinese app to install. So, since the Lucky Patcher app uses root, the Chinese app-ad downloaded and installed on its own! Then, immediately after installation, Avast popped up saying the app was malware. So I deleted it. And then forgot about it. Now, a week later, I completely wiped my Nook and installed a new ROM to breath some new life again (my nook needed a refreshment). Now, after that was done, I installed Clean Master (I don't use it to wipe RAM) and there was 1.3 GB of some Chinese stuff!! (Screenshot attached) I was wondering after I saw that... Since the app installed itself (root from Lucky Patcher) is it still on my system? But it can't, I would think, since my nook's internal storage looked normal after a wipe.... So is this app somewhere on my nook in the boot and storing junk on my SD card? (Since that is the only place where the 1.3 GB could have been) Thanks for anyone's advice...
P.S. I did the wipe for my nook by using a bootable CWM on another SD card (not with 1.3 GB on it) and formatted /system to completely start over, as well as a factory/data reset. So I wouldn't think that it is still on my Nook? And I have tried multiple scanners, but my Nook comes up clean... Thanks again
P.P.S. Is the "animal sounds" (screenshot attachment) some more adware? Because I have never downloaded or used anything that has to to with animals!!
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Edit: it sounds like I do have malware. Or more like aggressive adware. I made sure to wipe and format everything a couple of times and install a ROM during the middle of the wipings... It's called Kemoge malware. Everything sounds like what i had. Lesson learned... But any more advice on the manner?
http://zdnet.com.feedsportal.com/c/...app0Einstalls0C0Tftag0FRSSbaffb68/story01.htm
So the title kinda says it all. All my apps are synced to my gmail account, so when I try out a new rom the play store will go ahead and install my previous used apps.
But...i always have to go through and reset each one. All my preferences and stuff get wiped out.
So what are the good folks here at XDA doing to keep their app preferences when after installing a new rom on their Amazon Fire?
Thanks
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So the title kinda says it all. All my apps are synced to my gmail account, so when I try out a new rom the play store will go ahead and install my previous used apps.
But...i always have to go through and reset each one. All my preferences and stuff get wiped out.
So what are the good folks here at XDA doing to keep their app preferences when after installing a new rom on their Amazon Fire?
Thanks
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Couple thoughts:
- do not wipe user/data partition when flashing a new custom rom (a user/data partition wipe is required when toggling to/from FireOS)
- try backing up and restoring user/data partition in TWRP or FlashFire
Neither option is perfect; some personal preferences/settings may still need to be redone depending where/how the app stores them. In some cases the new rom may take exception to an existing data partition leaving you with no choice but to wipe and reflash.
There are various apps that claim to backup other apps plus associated data & setting preferences but I find the outcomes and additional effort do not offset the benefits. Androids tethered backup/restore is also an option but you'll need to learn/use adb. Not hard; Google for details.
Thanks for the response Davey. I figured a 3rd party app would probably be the way. But maybe I'll check out adb and learn a bit about it.
The thing is I'm on Fire Nexus, and I wanna go back to CM, and the instructions say to wipe data/partition/etc. So I think I'm gonna have to go a 3rd party or adb way to save my data of my apps.
Thanks for the info!
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Thanks for the response Davey. I figured a 3rd party app would probably be the way. But maybe I'll check out adb and learn a bit about it.
The thing is I'm on Fire Nexus, and I wanna go back to CM, and the instructions say to wipe data/partition/etc. So I think I'm gonna have to go a 3rd party or adb way to save my data of my apps.
Thanks for the info!
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I'm pretty sure you can get CM to install/boot from Nexus base with just a system/dalvik/cache wipe. However, unless blessed with an early bootloader that permits booting TWRP there is no way to recovery (short of reloading FireOS) if the device fails to boot. Still - I might be tempted to try this approach once you have your app data saved using adb or a 3rd party tool of your choosing...just in case.
Titanium (paid) has a solid reputation but has not be updated recently and has some difficulty with newer roms (MM/N based). Most others focus on one type of data or a specific feature (eg: cloud storage) vs simply creating a basic, reliable backup of everything that can be easily restored. That's were adb backup/restore comes in. Good luck!