Hello.
I have HTC One which had O2 customisations and I really wanted to get rid of them.
I unlocked bootloader on HTCdev site, installed custom recovery and flashed Android Revolution HD v30.
I couldn't get S-Off since I am on HBOOT 1.54
Now, since there is rumrunner for HBOOT 1.54, I want to install stock rom, change CID to Developer so I can have latest updates, but I didn't backup my stock firmware.
Is there any way to go stock, run rumrunner, change CID and update OTA?
HTC ONE
Android Revolution HD v30 (4.3)
Kernel 3.4.10-gd6f147e
Baseband 4A.17.3250.14_10.39.1150.04L
Build number 3.57.401.500
HBOOT 1.54.000
CID : O2___001
Thank you all in advance!
ensarba said:
Hello.
I have HTC One which had O2 customisations and I really wanted to get rid of them.
I unlocked bootloader on HTCdev site, installed custom recovery and flashed Android Revolution HD v30.
I couldn't get S-Off since I am on HBOOT 1.54
Now, since there is rumrunner for HBOOT 1.54, I want to install stock rom, change CID to Developer so I can have latest updates, but I didn't backup my stock firmware.
Is there any way to go stock, run rumrunner, change CID and update OTA?
HTC ONE
Android Revolution HD v30 (4.3)
Kernel 3.4.10-gd6f147e
Baseband 4A.17.3250.14_10.39.1150.04L
Build number 3.57.401.500
HBOOT 1.54.000
CID : O2___001
Thank you all in advance!
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can you do fastboot getvar mainver for me please????
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firstly you don't need a stock o2 rom (the unbranded one will do) it is dependant on your firmware. so:
firstly do fastboot getvar mainvar
if you get 2.24.206.7 as a result (i did)
flash the stock rom in the link below
downlaod the FIXED 2.24.401.8 tool from the rumrunner website
disable antiviris and firewall on pc and make sure u meet all the prerequisites on the rumrunner website
Run the tool
hit thanks if s off
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23060877489999966
Everything worked as you said. Now I have superCID, installed developer ROM, S-Off (thanks to rumrunner).
Thank you!
ensarba said:
Everything worked as you said. Now I have superCID, installed developer ROM, S-Off (thanks to rumrunner).
Thank you!
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no worries buddy enjoy s off
exocetdj said:
no worries buddy enjoy s off
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Now when I have SuperCID and developer edition rom, S-Off, unlocked boot loader, will I receive OTA update from HTC?
ensarba said:
Now when I have SuperCID and developer edition rom, S-Off, unlocked boot loader, will I receive OTA update from HTC?
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I think you will need to restore to a CID thats getting the updates and you will also need to install stock recovery. Beautiful thing about s off is that u can set your CID to the one that first receives the update
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Hey, I recently bought my HTC One and have been reading up on how to root etc. I'm looking for advice on how best to proceed. Currently my HTC one is running 4.1.2 with HBOOT 1.44.
Things seemed to have changed a bit since I last had a HTC (wildfire), now theres CID's, MID's, supercid and no goldcards. Things also seem a bit complicated compared to my SE Arc S, where you had one customization number and sony's software pulled the respective software.
At the moment, I want to be able to use root only apps (eg Titanium Backup) and update to the stock version of 4.2
Reading around, I've seen that rooting by unlocking the bootloader will block the OTA update to 4.2. Also, upgrading to 4.2 will update the HBOOT meaning that I won't be able to s-off. Even though, I currently don't need this, I don't want to update to the new HBOOT just in case.
My question is what would be the best way to get a stock rooted version of 4.2 without losing the ability to s-off?
Just looking for a bit of guidence, Thanks!
mike
I rooted to get 4.2 update bunch of custom roms already have them and there great roms I'm on viperone now but also have had revolution,trickdroid,cleanrom,ext all are stable don't need s off to flash but give it time and there will be an s off for 4.2.2
kasper1977 said:
I rooted to get 4.2 update bunch of custom roms already have them and there great roms I'm on viperone now but also have had revolution,trickdroid,cleanrom,ext all are stable don't need s off to flash but give it time and there will be an s off for 4.2.2
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My phone is on HBOOT 1.44, it can be s-off at the moment.
My question was how to get stock 4.2 with root access without upgrading to HBOOT 1.54?
S-off,
Unlock boot loader,
Change cid to HTC__001,
Lock boot loader,
Run RUU for European developers edition,
Update by OTA,
Unlock bootloader,
Flash custom recovery,
Root device.
You will be on stock 4.2.2, and rooted. You also won't have to worry about the hboot because once you have s off you don't lose it.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
CoryTallman said:
S-off,
Unlock boot loader,
Change cid to HTC__001,
Lock boot loader,
Run RUU for European developers edition,
Update by OTA,
Unlock bootloader,
Flash custom recovery,
Root device.
You will be on stock 4.2.2, and rooted. You also won't have to worry about the hboot because once you have s off you don't lose it.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
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Thanks for the reply
My cid is already HTC__001 (I bought it and it came with WWE ). Does that mean I can skip steps 2,3,4 and 5 in your list?
What is European developers edition?
Yes I suppose you can. WWE is world wide English. Which is what I believe comes on the developers editions. So you have HTC__001 already and have not received the ota? Like I said, if you want s off, get it before you upgrade. But if you don't need it you can upgrade without it and still root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
CoryTallman said:
Yes I suppose you can. WWE is world wide English. Which is what I believe comes on the developers editions. So you have HTC__001 already and have not received the ota? Like I said, if you want s off, get it before you upgrade. But if you don't need it you can upgrade without it and still root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
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What EU developer edition? I assume he has the UK version so his stock rom would be the "HTC_Europe" version. Need his CID and MID numbers to confirm. I agree that he should run the S-off process first thing if he wants it.
My CID is HTC__001, I don't know what the MID is. I don't think it's the developer edition, I bought it from a retailer not HTC directly and it's 32GB. My software version is .401 and the OTA to 4.2.2 is available to me, I haven't updated yet because I don't want to be stuck on HBOOT 1.54.
Then you can s-off, update, you will retain s-off on the new hboot, unlock boot loader, flash a custom recovery and root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
CoryTallman said:
Then you can s-off, update, you will retain s-off on the new hboot, unlock boot loader, flash a custom recovery and root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
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Thanks, if I unlock my bootloader with revone after s-off, is that exactly the same as doing it through htcdev?
fireice7 said:
Thanks, if I unlock my bootloader with revone after s-off, is that exactly the same as doing it through htcdev?
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Yes it is, with the added bonus of HTC not knowing you've done it!
EddyOS said:
Yes it is, with the added bonus of HTC not knowing you've done it!
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I guess another advantage is that your device doesn't get wiped on unlocking.
i have several issues that i want anyone to clarify please:
1- my phone is HTC ONE M7u with MID PN701000, But the CID is HTC_BS001 wich i've known that this CID is for the developer edition version
and my phone is NOT a developer edition, and i don't know what is the proper stock rom for my phone since i've installed custom recovery and custom rom and i want to get back to 100% stock
tip: the phone downloaded this OTA once i opened the phone for the first time
(( OTA_M7_UL_JB_50_BrightstarUS_WWE_1.29.1540.17-1.29.1540.16_R_release_322965_signedanlz8jm3dy4gzqgi ))
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2- about the S-off and S-on, if i have S-off and i reverted to 100% stock rom and recovery will this prevent the phone from updating to 4.3 via OTA ?
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3- can i execute S-off while using custom Rom ? or i have to be stock ???
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4- i tried to download some stock Ruu.exe from (Bugsylawson "which is unavailable now,htc1guru and androidruu.com) but i've never been able to complete the download or even pass 30% and i don't know why..is there any website other than those that supports resuming !!
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thank you guys
Wait, if your phone is an M7u, there is a prob, because the MID and the CID of this version aren't right.
So, are you S-OFFed or you're S-ON?
If you're s-off you can revert back to 100% stock and get the ota update by HTC
yes it's M7UL and i didn't S-off the phone yet
can anyone provide help please
Which hboot you have?? You can do the s-off??
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1.44 can i do s_off on a custom rom or it doesn't matter at all?
Y
MF88 said:
1.44 can i do s_off on a custom rom or it doesn't matter at all?
Y
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You can acheive the S-OFF.
Do it
I hoping I can get some clarification on this subject. I may have to take my phone into Sprint for either repair or new phone since it will not connect to the newly added 4G network in my area. So going back to stock my be needed for me to do so.
Since the RUU for the 4.4.2 update isn't available yet, is there a way to downgrade back to 4.3 so I can return back to stock? I did the OTA update in stock, then gained root access.
Does the process require me to turn S-Off? I'm currently S-On running Running Bad Boyz Sprint ONE KitKat v1.0.
If I go S-Off, is there a way to turn it back S-On? Not sure if Sprint will look at this setting.
Also, I have the update radio and hboot
HBOOT- 1.56.0000
RADIO- 1.00.20.1108
OS- 4.06.651.4
Will I have to downgrade my hboot as well?
Any help will be much appreciated
lihtsout said:
I hoping I can get some clarification on this subject. I may have to take my phone into Sprint for either repair or new phone since it will not connect to the newly added 4G network in my area. So going back to stock my be needed for me to do so.
Since the RUU for the 4.4.2 update isn't available yet, is there a way to downgrade back to 4.3 so I can return back to stock? I did the OTA update in stock, then gained root access.
Does the process require me to turn S-Off? I'm currently S-On running Running Bad Boyz Sprint ONE KitKat v1.0.
If I go S-Off, is there a way to turn it back S-On? Not sure if Sprint will look at this setting.
Also, I have the update radio and hboot
HBOOT- 1.56.0000
RADIO- 1.00.20.1108
OS- 4.06.651.4
Will I have to downgrade my hboot as well?
Any help will be much appreciated
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You're S-On. Your only option is to perform a factory reset, flash the stock recovery and re-lock your bootloader.
Kraizk said:
You're S-On. Your only option is to perform a factory reset, flash the stock recovery and re-lock your bootloader.
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Thanks
Do you forward me to a thread that has shows me how to do this? I have an idea on how to do it, just want make sure I do it correctly.
lihtsout said:
Thanks
Do you forward me to a thread that has shows me how to do this? I have an idea on how to do it, just want make sure I do it correctly.
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unlock recovery
install custom recovery
root
s-off with firewater
downgrade hboot to 1.55
relock bootloader
run RUU 4.3.
Hboot files
ludatrick said:
unlock recovery
install custom recovery
root
s-off with firewater
downgrade hboot to 1.55
relock bootloader
run RUU 4.3.
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hi I just came across one of the Sprint HTC Max on 4.4.2 with 2.49 hboot. I'd like to unlock the phone but can't find a hboot file to downgrade. Currently s-off, rooted, TWRP and unlocked. It would be great if you could help a brotha out...
Thanks,
Sonny
unlock bootloader
install custom recovery
root
s-off with firewater
downgrade hboot (check rumrunner website for hboot file)
relock bootloader
run RUU 4.3.
sonny5766 said:
hi I just came across one of the Sprint HTC Max on 4.4.2 with 2.49 hboot. I'd like to unlock the phone but can't find a hboot file to downgrade. Currently s-off, rooted, TWRP and unlocked. It would be great if you could help a brotha out...
Thanks,
Sonny
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Hi all.
Last week, after i soft bricked my phone (HTC ONE M7 EU with no carrier , bough directly from ) trying to update it to the latest version (i had mine unlocked and rooted to solve previous battery problems), i finally fixed it with the help of an user of this community
I have now an S-off HTC One GPE with 4.4.4 (via OTA update after flashing a RUU zip)
I kinda not like GPE and i think i should back to Sense .
Can anyone point me to the correct RUU thread and/or instructions or presequisites i shoult take account to do this process?
Thanks in advance
diesalher said:
Hi all.
Last week, after i soft bricked my phone (HTC ONE M7 EU with no carrier , bough directly from ) trying to update it to the latest version (i had mine unlocked and rooted to solve previous battery problems), i finally fixed it with the help of an user of this community
I have now an S-off HTC One GPE with 4.4.4 (via OTA update after flashing a RUU zip)
I kinda not like GPE and i think i should back to Sense .
Can anyone point me to the correct RUU thread and/or instructions or presequisites i shoult take account to do this process?
Thanks in advance
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here are some links, if you're going to use a signed/encryped ruu, then you'll need to downgrade hboot first https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407580580
http://androidruu.com/getdownload.p...31.27_10.31.1131.05_release_310878_signed.exe
http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu_m7_...1-27_10-31-1131-05_release_310878_signed-exe/
http://androidruu.com/getdownload.p...10.38r.1157.04L_release_353069_signed_2-1.exe
http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu_m7_...0-38r-1157-04l_release_353069_signed_2-1-exe/
http://androidruu.com/getdownload.p...50.13_10.33.1150.01_release_316789_signed.zip
http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu-zip...1-27_10-31-1131-05_release_310878_signed-zip/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407584993
Thanks. Whats the difference between signed and unsigned?
diesalher said:
Thanks. Whats the difference between signed and unsigned?
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considering you are s-off,
very little, but even with s-off, you will first need to downgrade hboot to same or lower version than the signed ruu.exe/ruu.zip
on the other hand, a decrypted ruu.zip doesn't have that restriction
a small chart is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52135024&postcount=2
under Not So FAQ #2
nkk71 said:
considering you are s-off,
very little, but even with s-off, you will first need to downgrade hboot to same or lower version than the signed ruu.exe/ruu.zip
on the other hand, a decrypted ruu.zip doesn't have that restriction
a small chart is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52135024&postcount=2
under Not So FAQ #2
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So my process will be...
1. Downgrade hboot to 1.44
2. Change back my cid to HTC__002 (when i flashed the RUU from the GPE i changed it to GOOGL001)
3. Flash the RUU zip
Is that right?
diesalher said:
So my process will be...
1. Downgrade hboot to 1.44
2. Change back my cid to HTC__002 (when i flashed the RUU from the GPE i changed it to GOOGL001)
3. Flash the RUU zip
Is that right?
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you don't have to go back to hboot 1.44
If your RUU is 4.xx flash a 3.xx firmware first
or 3.xx RUU a 3.xx or 2.xx firmware will work.
you may also need the MID change tool if you changed it also
MID_Change_1.01.zip
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358538634
clsA said:
you don't have to go back to hboot 1.44
If your RUU is 4.xx flash a 3.xx firmware first
or 3.xx RUU a 3.xx or 2.xx firmware will work.
you may also need the MID change tool if you changed it also
MID_Change_1.01.zip
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358538634
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Ok, i'm confused,
The RUU i'g gonna flass is this
http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu-zip-m7_ul_jb_50_htc_europe_1-28-401-7_radio_4a-13-3231-27_10-31-1131-05_release_310878_signed-zip/
I'm not sure what is the version . I have installed a 4.4.4 GPE (via OTA Updates)
What should i do. downgrade the bootloader or not. Flash a firmware or not.
sorry , but i'm a bit newbie and dont want to mess up.
diesalher said:
Ok, i'm confused,
The RUU i'g gonna flass is this
http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu-zip-m7_ul_jb_50_htc_europe_1-28-401-7_radio_4a-13-3231-27_10-31-1131-05_release_310878_signed-zip/
I'm not sure what is the version . I have installed a 4.4.4 GPE (via OTA Updates)
What should i do. downgrade the bootloader or not. Flash a firmware or not.
sorry , but i'm a bit newbie and dont want to mess up.
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The 1.28.401.7 is Jelly Bean it's equal to a 3.xx.xxx.x RUU
So the Firmware you would want is this http://xda7.androidrevolution.org/db_mirror/Firmware/HTC/HTC_One/401/2.24.401.8.zip
Hello,
I have looked on xda for an answer before i started this thread but couln't really find the answer or solution i'm personally looking for.. The problem is a friend of mine is S-On with an ex-contract HTC One (M7) CID is something like VODA..... and his HBoot is 1.57.0000 - I'm trying to S-Off his phone so he can get rid of the Vodafone and Flash Firmware and European RUU (This is i can do) but i need to S-Off it 1st ... I installed TWRP so as to root his phone and unlocked the bootloader (HTCDev unlock token) BUT now the problem is, he's just had the Lollipop 5.02 OTA update and of course, cannot instal it with TWRP present :/ i was told just to flash Stock recovery over it? is this correct? and if so, how would i go about it please and how would i get S-Off on his mobile please? I'm lead to believe that Sunshine S-Off is the only option with that HBoot version.. ?
Many thanks in advance to xda and its members :good:
Craig_CFC said:
Hello,
I have looked on xda for an answer before i started this thread but couln't really find the answer or solution i'm personally looking for.. The problem is a friend of mine is S-On with an ex-contract HTC One (M7) CID is something like VODA..... and his HBoot is 1.57.0000 - I'm trying to S-Off his phone so he can get rid of the Vodafone and Flash Firmware and European RUU (This is i can do) but i need to S-Off it 1st ... I installed TWRP so as to root his phone and unlocked the bootloader (HTCDev unlock token) BUT now the problem is, he's just had the Lollipop 5.02 OTA update and of course, cannot instal it with TWRP present :/ i was told just to flash Stock recovery over it? is this correct? and if so, how would i go about it please and how would i get S-Off on his mobile please? I'm lead to believe that Sunshine S-Off is the only option with that HBoot version.. ?
Many thanks in advance to xda and its members :good:
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better to achieve s-off now before taking the ota update or you will need to wait for the new release of sunshine (3.0).
Yes sunshine is the only way to achieve s-off on hboot 1.57.
Achieve s-off
change cid to HTC__001
change mid (if required) to PN0710000
flash the latest ruu 7.19.401.2
alray said:
better to achieve s-off now before taking the ota update or you will need to wait for the new release of sunshine (3.0).
Yes sunshine is the only way to achieve s-off on hboot 1.57.
Achieve s-off
change cid to HTC__001
change mid (if required) to PN0710000
flash the latest ruu 7.19.401.2
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Thank you - Yes, the CID i was going to change to HTC___001 and the RUU i have is: RUU_M7_UL_K44_SENSE55_MR_HTC_Europe_4.19.401.9_R_Radio_4A.23.3263.28_10.38r.1157.04L_release_353069_signed_2-1
Firmware:
fw_4.19.401.9_custom.zip
So would i just look for a European RUU with that No. (7.19.401.2)?
and is that Firmware ok please?
I really aappreciate the help here.
And Sunshine S-Off it is
is this any good please? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934533542
I meant to add - i can flash the Firmware with S-On can't i? as it's custom.. do i need to be rooted for that? and once firmware has been flashed i will need to Sunshine S-Off or Sunshine 1st then the rest? can i instal that RUU on S-On? If so i will just go ahead (without updating to 5.02) ..would this be ok? I think i need S-Off to chaange CID though dont i? so Sunshie 1st it would be?
Craig_CFC said:
Thank you - Yes, the CID i was going to change to HTC___001 and the RUU i have is: RUU_M7_UL_K44_SENSE55_MR_HTC_Europe_4.19.401.9_R_Radio_4A.23.3263.28_10.38r.1157.04L_release_353069_signed_2-1
Firmware:
fw_4.19.401.9_custom.zip
So would i just look for a European RUU with that No. (7.19.401.2)?
and is that Firmware ok please?
I really aappreciate the help here.
And Sunshine S-Off it is
is this any good please? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934533542
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Check in the general section, thread "htc one European ruu" 7.19.401.2 ruu in the OP. Flash using htc's version of fastboot available at page 4 of same thread. Sorry can post link atm.
alray said:
Check in the general section, thread "htc one European ruu" 7.19.401.2 ruu in the OP. Flash using htc's version of fastboot available at page 4 of same thread. Sorry can post link atm.
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Thank you, i have Fastboot and ADB already set up on my laptop - i will look for that now, thanks again alray :good:
Craig_CFC said:
Thank you, i have Fastboot and ADB already set up on my laptop - i will look for that now, thanks again alray :good:
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No you don't understand, you must use the fastboot version posted at page 4 or it will not work. Read the post you'll understand. The regular fastboot from the Android sdk won't work for this RUU.
I see now ..i got the HTC_Fastboot.exe ...is this correct? also, i'm downloading the European.RUU now .. will this come with the Firmware.zip or will i need to search and flash that 1st please? i'm sorry if i'm confusing the issue but i'm really quite new at this and don't totally understand.. also, would the CID still be HTC___001 and can i change that with s-on? 'fastboot oem writecid'
I need to change CID 1st dont i? then Firmware then RUU? then finally S-Off with sunshine before the 5.02 update
ok i've got fw_7.19.401.2-NoRed_NoWipe Firmware and will read up on how to use the htc_fastboot.exe
Craig_CFC said:
I see now ..i got the HTC_Fastboot.exe ...is this correct? also, i'm downloading the European.RUU now .. will this come with the Firmware.zip or will i need to search and flash that 1st please? i'm sorry if i'm confusing the issue but i'm really quite new at this and don't totally understand.. also, would the CID still be HTC___001 and can i change that with s-on? 'fastboot oem writecid'
I need to change CID 1st dont i? then Firmware then RUU? then finally S-Off with sunshine before the 5.02 update
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The European RUU is HTC___001. If your phone is s on you cannot change your CID. You need s off to do that
Craig_CFC said:
ok i've got fw_7.19.401.2-NoRed_NoWipe Firmware and will read up on how to use the htc_fastboot.exe
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do not flash that firmware whilst s-on, its modified firmware and will brick your phone, you need s-off to change your CID or falsh any different firmware than vodafone firmware.
I discovered that last night i kinda knew anyway that i could not change the CID without S-Off but with everything going on i forgot.. iv'e decided to stick Android Revolution HD 91.1 on his HTC One.. at least he'l have 5.02 and a quick & reliable OS ... iv'e head that 5.02 is the last OTA update for the M7 so it wouldn't matter if he can't update ..cheers for your help anyway
Sorry, i only read half your reply - will i need to change CID for Android Revolution HD? will this be safe to flash onto his device please?
Craig_CFC said:
Sorry, i only read half your reply - will i need to change CID for Android Revolution HD? will this be safe to flash onto his device please?
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no need to change cid, you can flash any custom rom on any CID.
whats your current firmware version, it will be something like 6.09.161.??
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Craig_CFC said:
Sorry, i only read half your reply - will i need to change CID for Android Revolution HD? will this be safe to flash onto his device please?
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here you go mate, full RUU Lollipop update for vodafone: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934540895
Download and flash using htc_fastboot.exe https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934539737, locked / relocked bootloader is required.
Thank You - i am downloading that now
whats your current firmware version, it will be something like 6.09.161.??
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I'm unsure on that right now as i dont have the phone with me but i'm going there soon and i will post the firmware version here before i go ahead and do anything - thanks again
Thank you everyone for all your help ..in the end i just flashed Android Revolution HD 91.1 ..he's happy with that and he's got his Lollipop 5.02 now i'll keep the Voda RUU for future reference - thanks again!
Craig