Does anyone know if the AT&T and Rogers version of this phone have the same LTE bands? In other words, are they the same phone? I want to use this phone on Telus but just want to make sure it'll work after I unlock.
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pookguy88 said:
Does anyone know if the AT&T and Rogers version of this phone have the same LTE bands? In other words, are they the same phone? I want to use this phone on Telus but just want to make sure it'll work after I unlock.
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You should be fine I've flashed at&t ROM and t- mobile based Roms and data, WiFi work fine, I have the rogers variant, the only difference is the signal logo on the status bar, tested t- mobile and I had 45 MBS download speed
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Is it possible to get a T-mobile N1 to support the 3G Bands 850/1900 that the bell network supports? I know it is possible to flash different radios with android phones. I am still a fairly new user to android but i'am trying to learn and u can't learn with out asking questions
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You won't get 3G. You need the AT&T version for Telus/Bell/Rogers. You could try Wind or Mobilicity.
well that sucks, neither of those are in Nova Scotia where i am located
You could always try to look for someone to trade with, AT&T for Tmobile Nexus.
But it would probably be hard to do in person if there is no demand for it in Nova Scotia.
I don't know how safe it would be to trade by mail.
Any plans that Wind or Mobilicity will come to Nova Scotia? Just curious.
You could get it to work on Rogers GSM network but you won't get 3G, I could be wrong but I don't think Bell or Telus have GSM networks so you're out of luck there.
Oh yeah, there is that little snafu too. Even worse.
It will work on Rogers but you won't get 3G speeds.
It won't work at all on Bell/Telus.
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Oh yeah, there is that little snafu too. Even worse.
It will work on Rogers but you won't get 3G speeds.
It won't work at all on Bell/Telus.
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So are you saying his Tmobile won't work on Bell/Telus at all?
But an AT&T will work fine on Telus, with 3G as well?
I am considering buying a nexus one for when I switch to telus next month.
Yes, the T-Mobile version will only work on Rogers/Fido with 2G only.
It will not work on Bell/Telus at all, ever.
It will only work on 3G on Wind Mobile and Mobilicity.
If you want full Rogers/Telus/Bell support, you need the AT&T version.
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Yes, the T-Mobile version will only work on Rogers/Fido with 2G only.
It will not work on Bell/Telus at all, ever.
It will only work on 3G on Wind Mobile and Mobilicity AND Vidéotron.
If you want full Rogers/Telus/Bell support, you need the AT&T version.
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If you're a Canadian and you want a "Nexus One-like" experience on Bell/Telus/Rogers, and you're having trouble finding one with the right 3G bands...
Get an HTC Desire from Telus. Problem solved. If you don't like Sense UI you can flash it with all sorts of ROMs that will make it feel more like an N1, or you can put MIUI on it, or Cyanogen, etc...
Or according to mobile syrup(can't link) the nexus S will be on the big 3 in march
Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
stevedebi said:
From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
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Yeah thats what im thinking. I need to contact and t-mobile rep and see if the re-farmed LTE here. Ill call and ask.
Alright so i called the rep and he said the area i am has been re-farmed to the 1900 range and i should be getting at least HSPA/3G but im not. Very odd issue
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
xunqren said:
Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
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yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
super-6-1 said:
yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
super-6-1 said:
I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
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My understanding is that the devices run on different systems for 3G and different LTE bands. You wont get more than GSM compatibility (GPRS, EDGE). Hopefully it is something that a software hack can fix but if you read around all the HTC One forums you will see no one has found it. Right now it is not possible.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
aaloknaik said:
My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
CDMA and GSM technology requires the antenna to be done differently. If they are not programmed to use those signals. Nothing you can dox will change it short of putting a new antenna in.
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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Because you can only unlock GSM. Cdma uses the serial/esn number of the device.
Has there been any update on this? I called tmobile and they said it was simply because I couldn't put in the APN. So, there's no chance that rooting the phone and putting a tmobile rom on it would fix the problem and let me get more than edge speeds.
I myself have been wondering the answer to this. The device might seem the same but under the cover they are different. The actual daughter board which the camera, vibrating thing, volume rocker, power button are connected to are fairly different from each other. The CDMA variant is not compatible with the GSM variant. Not even by adding a CDMA daughter board to the GSM motherboard and vice versa, the are made quiet differently and will not be able to use GSM bands on a CDMA m7
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Hello,
I have a T-mobile HTC ONE M7, I'm planing to switch to Verizon, Will I be able to get LTE/4G?
Is my Tmo M7 supported at all by Verizon? What network will I be able to connect to?
Is there any way to make my phone support all or some of Verizon's bands? A ROM or a Radio!! Maybe something else!!
I have tried to find this info, but I couldn't. The only thing I found is that both T-mobile and Verizon use the 1900 band for LTE!!
Please if you know anything about this let me know
Thank you
zaid2999 said:
Hello,
I have a T-mobile HTC ONE M7, I'm planing to switch to Verizon, Will I be able to get LTE/4G?
Is my Tmo M7 supported at all by Verizon? What network will I be able to connect to?
Is there any way to make my phone support all or some of Verizon's bands? A ROM or a Radio!! Maybe something else!!
I have tried to find this info, but I couldn't. The only thing I found is that both T-mobile and Verizon use the 1900 band for LTE!!
Please if you know anything about this let me know
Thank you
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T-Mobile is a GSM phone which doesn't have any CDMA bands, so you will surely limit yourself on their network. Also, T-Mobile and Verizon have different partition tables so the firmware and roms are not compatible. If you know someone on the Verizon network, ask them if you could use their SIM card to see what type of service you get with the TMO phone. Here is comparison chart of the various HTC One's, check out the Secondary Cellular Phone.
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Like said above, TMO htc one use GSM bands and Verizon use CDMA bands. Your phone also need a MEID # (the equivalent of the EMEI for CDMA network) which you don't have on a GSM HTC One (manufacturer-assigned). And afaik, Verizon will not accept non-verizon phone on their network. Your best choice if you want to quit TMO is to choose another GSM carrier (AT&T for example). Your phone also must be sim-unlocked to change carrier.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/verizon-cdma-explained-1189551
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_equipment_identifier
Thanks guys for the replies, I thought there might be some way to change bands :cyclops: I'm not an expert lol
Looks like I will be switching to ATT
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Hello all.
I would please like to ask if its possible to install a T-Mobile Note 5 rom on this phone so that i can get Nougat and Wireless calling. I read on the S7 threads its possible to switch from an AT&T phone to a T-Mobile rom. I am hopeful we can do the same for the US Cellular variant as its quite slow with updates, im still on MM albeit April 1 security update.
Thanks
No help?
AT&T and T-Mobile are both GSM carriers. US Cellular is CDMA so you would be better off trying to flash a Verizon firmware and I am not even sure you could do that.
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AT&T and T-Mobile are both GSM carriers. US Cellular is CDMA so you would be better off trying to flash a Verizon firmware and I am not even sure you could do that.
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i understand that but thats just an LTE band issue. the phone works happily on Tmobile. Its closest relative is a Sprint Note 5 but i dont want to flash Sprint firmware, i want to have Tmobile firmware on it cos im Tmobile.
I have a Nexus 6 that has the Verizon image on it and would like to know if an unlocked Nexus 6 would work perfectly fine on the Verizon network or will I have to keep the Verizon image?
In other words can I use N6F27I instead of the Verizon specific N8I11B and if I do will I still get complete coverage on all of the Verizon network?
You can use whatever nexus 6 Rom you want, with or without a locked bootloader. So yes it will still work on your network
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But will it work utilizing all of Verizon's frequencies and network?
Yep, because the bands are all preset at the factory. The version of Android you throw on the N6 has nothing to do with it.
So would there be any advantage or disadvantage of using the Verizon version?
That's something you're going to have to find out for yourself. I'm not on stock.
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So would there be any advantage or disadvantage of using the Verizon version?
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I use an unlocked AT&T N6 that I removed all the AT&T ringtones, bootup chimes etc. and have no problem using it on Verizon. The only Verizon app I use is "My Verizon" to pay my bill and it works without a hiccup.
And it works on all of the Verizon bands including their 3G, 4G LTE and 1X Bands?
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And it works on all of the Verizon bands including their 3G, 4G LTE and 1X Bands?
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Mine did. I set preferred network type to LTE / CDMA and everything worked.