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Hi, proud owner of the gear for like 2 days, finding my uses a bit limited so far, so I thought i would list mine, if you list yours! Maybe we can get ideas from each other of how to best use this awesome piece of tech:
1. Notifications (the only one that isn't great is Touchdown for exchange, does normal Samsung exchange email work better - ie show a preview of the email?
2. The time: yup, it is a watch, after all
3. Calendar: : Keeping tabs on what my next meeting is
4. Camera:; For quick snaps to remind me of things, it's ideal
5. Phone:: For seeing who's calling, and rejecting their call usually
Feel like I should start using the pedometer, but i go to the gym every day, and don't walk alot. And definitely feel like there are other uses for this that haven't been thought of/ apps haven't come out yet. I haven't gone the custom ROM route, but I have updated to MK7.
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1. To look like a geek
2. Notifications
3. Watch
4 Making short calls to find other peoples phones.
5. Checking current weather conditions
1 - time
2 - meeting events
3 - pedometer (hooked into s health)
4 - camera
5 - notificaations
6 - gaming! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAQ3xQnaW18&feature=c4-overview&list=UUZAweAIkRllQ7PjR9SfnNyg
7 - news (using zite)
8 - quick photo notes to Evernote
1. geek
2. girl magnet
3. phone/text
4. watch
5. wrist top flashlight like on the old centurions cartoon.
1. Time
2. Hacking
Not sure if the order is right
1: Notifications. Knowing who emailed me or texted me without picking up my phone is huge.
2: Music control. It works great with the stock music app, and even shows album art on the watch. I can be on the treadmill with my BT headphones and the phone completely hidden away and change songs and volume.
3: Quick pictures.
4: Weather updates.
5: Pedometer.
so what kind of things can you do with real apps, after installing the null rom? i'm really tempted to pick one up if there are any black friday deals
I really wish the #1 feature of the Gear was to tell time. But I find it so frustrating when glancing at my wrist to check the time all I see is a blank screen! C'mon! The wrist flick thing works ok if your hands are free. But at work my hands are always working/holding on something, and flicking of the wrist is not an option. Very hard to consider the Gear a true watch if I can never get it to tell me the time.
1. Notifications
2. Kill/waste time loading ROMs and customizing watch faces
3. Camera
4. Attract nearby geeks within a 25ft radius
5. Time
definitely this would come in handy when weightlifting in the gym
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I really wish the #1 feature of the Gear was to tell time. But I find it so frustrating when glancing at my wrist to check the time all I see is a blank screen! C'mon! The wrist flick thing works ok if your hands are free. But at work my hands are always working/holding on something, and flicking of the wrist is not an option.
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Agree, and even when I flick my wrist it shows up only 75% of the time... needs to be either more sensitive or always-on (it has an AMOLED screen that shouldn't burn too much battery?)
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Agree, and even when I flick my wrist it shows up only 75% of the time... needs to be either more sensitive or always-on (it has an AMOLED screen that shouldn't burn too much battery?)
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YEP! I was able to run Big Digital Clock app and have it running with the display always-on, but the battery on the Gear is tiny, so it does drain it quickly. Also, there is an issue with screen burn-in with the clock always on. Overall, I still wear the Gear over my other watches for the geek factor.. pretty cool to have a tablet on ur wrist that lets u read ur notifications. I'm coming from the original Sony Smart Watch on my PPC, which was a watch #1, then notifier #2.
My List
1. New geek toy to play with
2. Reading notifications while in meetings etc.
3. Taking calls while my hands are full.
4. Snoozing my alarm in the morning so I don't need to roll over and find my phone.
5. Telling the time.
6.Taking quick snaps.
7. Controlling my music for my Bluetooth headphones.
8. Using the wine scanning app
Hi all,
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate what can and what cannot be done with the iPhone & Gear combination.
Let me first describe my experience so far, for anyone who may be interested. So let's say you want to use the Gear with your iPhone:
First of all you need to have null ROM on the Gear (see respective thread). I have null 15.
You go to full settings and then bluetooth and make the watch discoverable.
Then you go to the iPhone and search for devices (not the other way around).
What works:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality.
They couple OK and this is it. You have a glorified 300 euro BT handsfree in the shape of a wristwatch!
2) Internet tethering via BT.
If your iPhone carrier settings do support tethering you can also tether the Gear via BT to the iPhone. I have seen that the tethering process works but unfortunately i was in an area of no signal when i did the test (don't have an iPhone right now) so there is no hard evidence. I mean i did not see a webpage loading but i think that tethering is actually device independent. Someone please confirm.
What doesn't work:
1) Notifications (which renders the added value of the whole smartwatch concept kind of questionable)
2) An automated or even manual (but no PC/cloud involved) way to transfer photos/vids taken with the Gear camera to the iPhone.
3) Caller ID with name. I have extensively tried this with both an iPhone 4 and a 5S both on iOS7 and both not jailbroken and when a call is received i only saw the number even if the caller was in the contact list of the iPhone and the native contact list on the Gear itself.
I am searching for a solution for bullets 2 and 3, since i will swap my S4 for a 5S very soon but i do intend to keep the Gear for the time being.
Any comment/personal experience/help will be greatly appreciated.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
As of June 11, 2014 XDA member @Accounti provided the first (and only so far) solution, regarding iPhone & Gear cooperation.
Ladied and Gents, please welcome CloudNotifier Cydia tweak.
All notifications from jailbroken iPhone can be sent via Web to the Gear (and many other devices, as it is web based). It is not a direct BT connection, therefore NULL ROM is required so that BT tethering is enabled.
I would like to personally congratulate @Accounti for his work and kindly ask that relative posts are done in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784802
Please let us continue in this thread regarding the iPhone & Gear connection methods.
i tested everything all the day. I can confirm, it works, tethering it's fine, browsing, play store access, email, also I installed Whatsapp and using it.
A problem with this, after some minuts the internet connection become "on demand" so if you receive for example a whatsapp message you don't receive immediately the notification but you will receive the first time you connect to something (for example browsing a page or sending an email).
I'm searching a way to keep internet connection alive or to wake it every 15 minutes just to have live messaging with whatsapp.
I can confirm the problem with the caller Id, i think the problem it's that the iPhone does not push contacts to gear when you pair, and when a call comes the gear look not in the contacts list but in the pairing contacts, that is empty...
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Another problem, set every volume in gear to zero, only vibrating, iPhone is in silent mode to, when a call comes the Gear makes the ringtone anyway. It's a bad problem for me cause i can't use ringtone at work...
NZ, you do realize all this device needs is an app to communicate with. It is completely possible to make the Gear work with an iPhone.
Someone with some decent IOS App writing skills could make this work.
Stop filling this thread with your nonsense.
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@gidi, did you try bluetooth transfering your files to your iPhone from the Gear ?
Not sure iOS supports bluetooth file transfers, but it should work.. along with bluetooth sharing contacts I believe, I activated that service too
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@gidi, did you try bluetooth transfering your files to your iPhone from the Gear ?
Not sure iOS supports bluetooth file transfers, but it should work.. along with bluetooth sharing contacts I believe, I activated that service too
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@fOmey unfortunately i do not have an iPhone right now. Maybe will have the 5S within the day and then i will test and get back to the thread.
However, BT file transfer is a no go on an iPhone that is not jailbroken. Truth is that iOS 7 is a little more relaxed compared to older iOSs but i cannot confirm anything.
With a JB iPhone it may be a totally different story, however. There is tweak called BTnotificationenabler that transfers ALL push notifications through BT.
Could you please check what the profiles that the Gear supports are? Also, could you add more profiles, just in case?
Thank you dude!
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@fOmey unfortunately i do not have an iPhone right now. Maybe will have the 5S within the day and then i will test and get back to the thread.
However, BT file transfer is a no go on an iPhone that is not jailbroken. Truth is that iOS 7 is a little more relaxed compared to older iOSs but i cannot confirm anything.
With a JB iPhone it may be a totally different story, however. There is tweak called BTnotificationenabler that transfers ALL push notifications through BT.
Could you please check what the profiles that the Gear supports are? Also, could you add more profiles, just in case?
Thank you dude!
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That's a shame about the bluetooth transfer, although ! The bluetooth notifications is quite interesting.
What profile do you require for the bluetooth notifications ? As for adding new profiles.. I can activate additional services which have been included already, although it's kind of hit and miss if they will work ! .. If it's some weird proprietary services sadly no.
I have included majority of the useful ones already..
Hi Everyone,
I did a little thread cleaning. I think that this thread is perfect for xda. Although xda usually doesn't support iPhone development, I think most of the development here will need to be done on the Galaxy Gear side. As long as people are willing to help and test ideas, I say go for it!
Thanks!
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That's a shame about the bluetooth transfer, although ! The bluetooth notifications is quite interesting.
What profile do you require for the bluetooth notifications ? As for adding new profiles.. I can activate additional services which have been included already, although it's kind of hit and miss if they will work ! .. If it's some weird proprietary services sadly no.
I have included majority of the useful ones already..
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fOmey i will search a little and get back to you.
I will alsotry to get in touch with a dev who has managed to make wonders with iPhone and Pebble.
Thing is, if some basic functionality can be achieved, then the Gear market will truly expand. There are many iPhone users who would love to use the Gear.
UPDATE: It might also be worth it if you could take a look at this: http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
I have used the imwatch in the past and it can work both with iOS and Android.
Appart from the tethering function, i remember that when pairing with iPhone a special BT profile (do not remember it's name) was utilised that allowed the imwatch to download the whole iPhone contact list over BT.
Actually the Gear is all the imwatch was ever hoping to be and maybe some more!
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Hi Everyone,
I did a little thread cleaning. I think that this thread is perfect for xda. Although xda usually doesn't support iPhone development, I think most of the development here will need to be done on the Galaxy Gear side. As long as people are willing to help and test ideas, I say go for it!
Thanks!
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Absolutely, the work is on the Gear side, cause iPhone already use the Pebble or the I'm Watch, so it's the Gear that is missing something. Thank you
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gidi said:
fOmey i will search a little and get back to you.
I will alsotry to get in touch with a dev who has managed to make wonders with iPhone and Pebble.
Thing is, if some basic functionality can be achieved, then the Gear market will truly expand. There are many iPhone users who would love to use the Gear.
UPDATE: It might also be worth it if you could take a look at this: http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
I have used the imwatch in the past and it can work both with iOS and Android.
Appart from the tethering function, i remember that when pairing with iPhone a special BT profile (do not remember it's name) was utilised that allowed the imwatch to download the whole iPhone contact list over BT.
Actually the Gear is all the imwatch was ever hoping to be and maybe some more!
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Good idea Man! Look into the I'm Watch firmware is good, the profile used for sms is the Message Access Profile (MAP).
No way to save contacts manually, the Gear see it as empty. Is there a possibility to modify directly the contact file?
fOmey maybe you know witch is the right file
Just talked to fOmey in the chatroom of his website.
I informed him that jb for iOS 7 is out.
Now the news: fOmey has an iPhone also and i am trying to convince him to invest/waste some time trying to make the Gear - iPhone combination work.
Told him about the BTNotificationEnabler tweak (https://github.com/conradev/BTNotificationEnabler) and the MAP profile that is being used and he said that his ROM may already be supporting it.
If there is anyone with an iPhone and a Gear who wants to see the combination really work, please post to this thread. It could provide some motivation for fOmey!
I know he can do it if he decides to spend some time working on it.
gidi said:
Just talked to fOmey in the chatroom of his website.
I informed him that jb for iOS 7 is out.
Now the news: fOmey has an iPhone also and i am trying to convince him to invest/waste some time trying to make the Gear - iPhone combination work.
Told him about the BTNotificationEnabler tweak (https://github.com/conradev/BTNotificationEnabler) and the MAP profile that is being used and he said that his ROM may already be supporting it.
If there is anyone with an iPhone and a Gear who wants to see the combination really work, please post to this thread. It could provide some motivation for fOmey!
I know he can do it if he decides to spend some time working on it.
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I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
Robotblog said:
I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
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I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
fOmey said:
I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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It's auto-enabled when you turn bt on? Because when an sms arrive nothing happens, and from iPhone side it's always turned on.
fOmey maybe you can make some test with your iPhone
Robotblog said:
I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
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Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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If it doesnt work already, wait for the next version of my rom.
fOmey said:
I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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fOmey my man if i got this correctly then the MSE (server side) profile should be enabled on the iPhone and the MCE (client side) should be enabled on the Gear.
However, "The MCE device shall use the services of the MSE device only after successfully creating a secure connection", which kind of concerns me.
But again, in fOmey we trust for everything Gear related.
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fOmey my man if i got this correctly then the MSE (server side) profile should be enabled on the iPhone and the MCE (client side) should be enabled on the Gear.
However, "The MCE device shall use the services of the MSE device only after successfully creating a secure connection", which kind of concerns me.
But again, in fOmey we trust for everything Gear related.
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I activate both profiles in the next version.. so regardless what is requires it should be available.
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I activate both profiles in the next version.. so regardless what is requires it should be available.
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Thank you fOmey!!!
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Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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I'll do JB in a few days on 4s but only for btnotenab, cause forma the SMS si already in ios
Any workaround for the caller id issue?
With calling id names and MAP the Gear could be the perfect device.
Ist there some Team/Developer working on an OpenSource alternative to the official Samsung Galaxy Gear Manager? I am the programmer behind OpenFetch (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sindaccos.openfetch) which was just a test to get the HTC Fetch working with any BLE/Android 4.3 enabled Smartphone.
This gave me so much experience with BLE profiles, characteristics and co. so I am searching for some more devs helping me coding an OpenGearManager.
So who is with me?
Regards,
Gamer
Sounds like a great idea hope you get more devs on board
Nope, no work on a OpenSource replacement is going on atm, not in the public anyway.
I´we done some custom Gear apps for the null_ rom but if I´m capable of helping out with this, I don´t know.
I´m sure @fOmey (author of null_) can help out with lot´s of info for the project.
I love the idea !
Pushing notifications to the gear using a open program would be awesome for end users.
Have you checked out M2D ? It would be a great start if you could get the source.
How about an iPhone (Cydia) app that would push notifications to the Gear?
This is the best idea yet. Because of the fact that I'm an idiot I would love to be able to push apps and make other changes via the gear manager. I would think this would open the door for other idiots like myself to get this watch. I am running null 16 but had someone else load it for me. would love to go 22 but don't know how plus I heard you lose settings in touchwiz...a reinvented gear manager would fix this right?
I would like to help, but do not have the time right now. Could it be possible to reverse engineer the proprietary protocols so we can use the apps created for the gear with the open version of gear manager?
I have been looking into this. But there is alot thats way over my head. But i would say its not possible. Not for now anyhow. But anything is possible i guess.
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I have been looking into this. But there is alot thats way over my head. But i would say its not possible. Not for now anyhow. But anything is possible i guess.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying its impossible...
If you have experience in bluetooth communication between devices & JSON requests it may not be as hard as you may think.
It would be a bit of a difficult project tho !
Lets forget about JSON requests for a minute and listen to my theory:
Half of it is done with M2D manager by pacosal, the bluetooth connectivity part anyway... if someone was to code a notification listener for the host phone, we could push the M2D intents to the gear.. simple enough right ?
We then code a listener for the gear to listen for M2D intents, when one of the "notification intents" is received we fire the following intent to show a custom notification.
For a example put this command in adb shell:
Code:
am start -a android.intent.action.VIEW -n com.samsung.notifications/com.samsung.notifications.NotificationAlertActivity -e title Test
This would give basic notification functionality, its not that difficult to code and it would work across all android devices.
If I was confident enough to code in JAVA, I would take on the project myself although with a lack of time to learn and other ongoing projects it makes it hard... in saying that tho I am more than happy to help anyone who is game to make a start !
One of the gear users created a third party app to send notifications to the gear: ATN
If only he released the source, it would be excellent to get an idea how things work.
I'm all up for that iPhone cydia app! I really want a gear but don't like samsung phones. I'd pay for the app too, if you list it for a price, I'd pay up to $15-$20 for it
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It would be great to have this working, i am currently using ATN Manager and was a pain to get working as you have to find and use a specific version of the app to get the functionality, i posted about it here as well as getting the WatchStyler working on a non-Samsung device (Nexus 5) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50550974&postcount=129
However you only get a message that you got a notification for some and not a full message to read, while that works while your phone may be on silent it would be great to have the full functionality like with a Samsung device.
Very excited about this! Hope someone can get it going! I'd be more than happy to test as I am sure is with other!
First of all - Hi everyone! I'm a frequent reader, first time poster.
Now to the point. As soon as I'm done with my masters defense (around next two weeks), I'm starting a project that might help with this idea.
I'm basically going to implement an android service that will provide an abstract interface for communication between any android phone with bluetooth capability (if possible, still some research ahead of me) and Galaxy Gear. I haven't decided yet if interaction will be done by intents or if it would be in form of a library or even raw classes. Still if the project will succeed I'm going to try to build the same abstract interface for Windows Phone devices (no intents here, so propabbly as a library). If it proves possible then same thing will be done with iOS, by a friend of mine.
Assuming this would work, someone would have to reverse engineer the Gear Manager, so if there is anyone that is able to do that I will be happy to cooperate in any way I can.
I'm not promissing anything for now, but let's see how will things go.
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First of all - Hi everyone! I'm a frequent reader, first time poster.
Now to the point. As soon as I'm done with my masters defense (around next two weeks), I'm starting a project that might help with this idea.
I'm basically going to implement an android service that will provide an abstract interface for communication between any android phone with bluetooth capability (if possible, still some research ahead of me) and Galaxy Gear. I haven't decided yet if interaction will be done by intents or if it would be in form of a library or even raw classes. Still if the project will succeed I'm going to try to build the same abstract interface for Windows Phone devices (no intents here, so propabbly as a library). If it proves possible then same thing will be done with iOS, by a friend of mine.
Assuming this would work, someone would have to reverse engineer the Gear Manager, so if there is anyone that is able to do that I will be happy to cooperate in any way I can.
I'm not promissing anything for now, but let's see how will things go.
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Awesome, looking forward to where this goes!
Hey guys,
I'm looking at getting a G2N in the next few days (if I can find a shop that has them in stock!)
I just have a couple of questions...
1. Does it show WhatsApp messages? I tried YouTube but the ones that talk about WhatsApp is in German.
2. Does it show the weather forecast?
3. How accurate is the S Voice on it?
I'm using a Galaxy Note 2 (DN3 RC2 on 4.4.2).
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I don't use whatsapp messenger so I can't answer the first question, but I do use it to receive Facebook, espn, and other notifications. I'm site if you choose to see those it will display them. It also has a ten day forecast. And as far as s voice I think it's pretty spot on, I've been using it for a week and only once have I had to re-say what I meant. I have it paired with an s5 to for what it's worth
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Hey guys, I'm looking at getting a G2N in the next few days (if I can find a shop that has them in stock!) //
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1. Does it show WhatsApp messages?
I don't use WhatsApp, but *all* the apps that I have used with the watch DO show notifications clearly.
(GoogleNow, Business Calendar, Feedly, a couple of others/ etc.)
2. Does it show the weather forecast?
Yes, it even has a watch face with time and a weather logo that show the temperature and a current weather
symbol (clouds, clear, rainy). If you push the logo, you get a scrolling weather forecast in more detail (for several
days). It works well -but the fastest/most current updates in settings is hourly (I'd like 15 minutes!). I also use WeatherBug
and it pushed weather to the watch --turned it off since I was getting multiple weather more or less the same times!
3. How accurate is the S Voice on it?
- S Voice does work, and I use it to respond to text messages. (So, if you get a text message on your watch -you can read the whole thing, and there is a menu to reply (settings: either 3-4 stock "canned" messages, or using a "free form" reply with S Voice. I used S Voice, but to do so you need to a) be in a reasonably quiet location (outdoors on a windy street does not work well, riding in a car with the window open and music playing does not work well...etc.).
- Secondly, I found I needed to think through the reply completely in advance and then say it slowly. Whenever I tried to create and speak and pause and continue to speak, S voice just caught a portion of the reply and offered "here is your reply shall I send it"? (no no no! delete!). However, when I knew exactly what I wanted to say, and said it slowly but clearly, S voice did well. I would NOT recommend it for LONG message replies on the watch, (Send several short replies -that works!) However, S Voice does not seem to be as good at dictation as Google's voice keyboard, or Swype/Dragon's voice type. It is pretty good at searches.
We are very close to Android Wear devices being released. Are you prepared to possibly feel remorse after dropping money on one of these and then just a few months later, new devices will be out that may eclipse them in function and app ecosystem? I bought and kept my Neo with the knowledge that its a stopgap for a few months and I'll most probably ditch it for Android Wear this summer. There's still a lot of missing functionality that the older Gears and even Pebble watches can do that need to be caught up because Samsung decided to ditch the old platform for Tizen. So it's pretty much like a gen 1 device again instead of building on the existing ecosystem from the original Gear, which means waiting on features, apps and stability/bug fixes.
Because I love the IR blaster and mic, I kept my Neo in the chance that devs can come through and fix/add the software/apps to address my problems with it. I don't know if an Android Wear device will come out that has the IR blaster, so I'm keeping the Neo for now. Even though the WatchOn app sucks right now, because it's very limited in what devices it can control.
You must be willing to gamble on whether those apps/software features will ever come around, because those of us who buy Samsung devices regularly, know that if you don't buy one of their devices that have decent developer support, you're kind of screwed due to their penchant to release so many new devices and subsequently forget about supporting their last-gen products with updates. We'll see if the decision to go Tizen will help or hurt this product. So far the app store is pretty thin and I expected there would be a bounty of awesome apps by now since one of the advantages of Tizen promoted was that it's so easy to develop on this platform compared to android. Given that, the only reason for the lack of apps I would think is lack of developer interest.
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WARNING!!!!
###IF U NEED TO INSTALL THIS.U NEED TO ROOT UR PHONE.AND IT MEAN U R VOIDING UR PHONE WARRANTY###
****IM NOT RESPONDING TO ANY DAMAGE WITH YOUR PHONE IF U INSTALL THIS BECAUSE U R CONSIDERED TO INTSALL NOT COMPLETE PORT ON UR PHONE.****
requirement:
1.surely you are on android
2.you must have a android 5.x or later (between 5.x to 7.x is recommended)
3.your CPU architecture must be arm arm64 .
4.YOUR PHONE NEED TO BE ROOTED (SuperSU or Magisk or whatever just a root access).
optional :
for some application (I think most)need a tracking system .but gear vr service developer mode is not working because hardware support .so you need a external tracker .the tracker is base on STM32F3 discovery board .so use this link for learns more at www.open-gear.com
I think this method is the easiest because you just need a development board come with a great enough hardware to be a tracker .no need to soldering just plug the usb to pc and upload .hex code then enjoy your work.
DDONWLOAD LINKS:
download the latest apps and always update all apps from links down below.
(ALL APP INSTALL AT NORMAL APK EXCEPT GEAR VR SETUP WIZARD STUB AND ALL FILE IN ATTACH ZIP. ONLY FOR FOLDER SET PERMISSION TO RWXR-XR-X OR 0755 OTHER THING LIKE APK SET AT RW-R--R-- OR 0644).
Links for oculus app
oculus:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus/
oculus app runtime:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-app-runtime/
oculus home:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-home/
oculus media plugin:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-media-plugin/
oculus room:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-rooms/
oculus system activities:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-system-activities/
oculus system driver:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-system-driver/
oculus vr :https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/oculus-vr/oculus-vr/
Links for samsun Gear vr app
gear vr setup wizard stub(INSTALL IN /SYSTEM/PRIV-APP):https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/gear-vr-setupwizardstub/
gear vr setup wizard :https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/gear-vr-setupwizard/
gear vr service:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/gear-vr-service/
gear vr shell:https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsNsKN33FBTvnjyszdAV-PyKL5r2
gear vr system:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/gear-vr-system/
gear vr input service:https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/gear-vr-inputservice/
NOTE:If you cant install gear vr service .you need to sign apk and set se-linux to permissive.if not work .download lucky patcher and apply patch to android .by click at "toolbox" then "patch to android" .Then select "Signature Verification status always True"and"Disable .apk Signature Verification" and dont forget to tick at "only patch dalvik-cache" click apply and your phone will rebot 1 time .next follow the past step but select "Disable signature verification in the package manager" click apply and you phone will reboot 1 time .and next go install gear vr service.
Im working on the hardware to working with my xperia x the link to the github is here http://github.com/TiNredmc/Foculus_Rift_Tracker_STM32F3DISCOVERY/
If you enjoy my not complete porting or get working in something that I dont know or say not working dont forget to tell me in priv chat or post inn this thread
Also dont forget to hit the THANK button :good::good::good:
thipok17 said:
Now time for a download #NOTE IT NOT COMPLETELY PORTED IT JUST FOR DEV AND I GOT IT WORKING ON MY XPERIA Z1 LOLLIPOP ROM ON OTHER IDK AND IT NOT FLASHABLE ZIP YOU NEED TO MANUALY INSTALL...
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Did you mean you are successfully running the Gear VR both h/w & s/w with your Xperia? Could you provide more details? Thanks.
do the touch pad and buttons work too?
Even if you successfully got the needed folders, the VR service and the ROM would need to be pointed to the directory. Another issue you may run into is that the VR Gear and services were designed to run specifically on Samsung devices only.
I'm not saying it won't work, but be careful when you try and certainly backup your phone first.
I know the risk. Soon I will buy used Note 5 for making a gear vr porting and I will test ported on my another z1 (I have 2)
i cannot even get it working on my Samsung S7 Active, (which is pretty much identical to a S7 mainboard wise. is just battery, case, button layout differs)
which is *just* a software issue im sure..
so im VERY much interested if you get the touchpad/buttons, and insertion detection working !! and how you did it !
as thats something i just cannot get going here ! ..
Think it's possible to use with the OnePlus 3 ?
well tried to get this installed, but couldnt get over permissions to overwrite those files .. (was rooted, in ES.File Explorer)
cannot do it in recovery as dont have any kinda custom recovery on s7.active ...
but did this give you ability to use the buttons, and touchpad ??
I tired with latest update of oculus software.I lost for a long timeeee because this latest version.I will port soon (It on my Xperia z1 and I dont charge it for a month....)
I planned to buy a used Galaxy note 5.for porting purpose and streaming Minecraft gearVR on Youtube ;D
ac8dl said:
Did you mean you are successfully running the Gear VR both h/w & s/w with your Xperia? Could you provide more details? Thanks.
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not with hardware I need to do some coding and Microcontroller circuit building.Software not 100 usable it sometime crashes Not stable and laggy
miniminus said:
do the touch pad and buttons work too?
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Sorry I dont have real Gear vr.I only have software XD
Nixeus said:
Think it's possible to use with the OnePlus 3 ?
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Prepare and try with your self (need root just googling for Oneplaus 3 root )
miniminus said:
well tried to get this installed, but couldnt get over permissions to overwrite those files .. (was rooted, in ES.File Explorer)
cannot do it in recovery as dont have any kinda custom recovery on s7.active ...
but did this give you ability to use the buttons, and touchpad ??
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I found a way to simulate gyro sensor but not with touchpad it use arm cortex microcontroller
link:https://www.roadtovr.com/can-now-clone-gear-vr-test-virtual-reality-apps
link2:http://open-gear.com
link3:https://github.com/yetifrisstlama/Foculus_Rift_Tracker_STM32F3DISCOVERY
U need some coding and some Electronics skill (for me is Easy )
After oculus have new update
IMPORTANT:After new update of oculus.Oculus system activity will crash if you launch VR application.I have seen in logcat.It say it cant found "defaultDistortion.bin" in directory /sdcard/Oculus .So I findding for it.And I found in gear vr service app.Then I extracted the file . Here is file
ANOTHER IMPORTANT:Extract in your internal sd card folder name"Oculus" and enjoy l.If crashes send me or post a logcat
I think you shouldn't push yourself too hard.
Software hacking and Hardware simulation is too hard at once.
Going step by step would be easier and have a higher success rate.
You could first get a Gear Vr. Those are often sold for cheap , when Samsung tried to empty their shelves.
Especially the older ones.
Then prioritize Software porting until any phone is running stable on Gear Vr.
And then approach Gyroscope simulation on any Cardboard Headset to make it a Gear Vr.
But it's highly likely that the experience is worse. I mean Samsung is not stupid for putting a dedicated tracking circuit board inside the Gear Vr. They know that Smartphones don't have the best gyros etc. Mediocre Sensors are enough for Smartphone uses but when you are in VR you need a much higher sampling rate , hence the upgraded gyros in the Gear Vr. (Oculus and vive are the same)
So there is that. But it doesn't stop there. Let's say you ignore the last point or let's say your Gyroscope is good enough , there is still one big issue:
All gear vr content is made for the gear vrs optics. So you would need to find a cardboard headset that comes closest to the Gear Vrs lenses, lens to screen distance and face to lens distance and lPD( distance between L&R lens ... which should be the least problem though since many headsets have an adjustable IPD)
So to sum it up. The best bet would be to do the obvious . Use the gear vr with another android phone for gear vr experience.
Let's hope you can get that to work. Keep up the good work. And amazing talent at that age. 14 wow.
iHack13 said:
I think you shouldn't push yourself too hard.
Software hacking and Hardware simulation is too hard at once.
Going step by step would be easier and have a higher success rate.
You could first get a Gear Vr. Those are often sold for cheap , when Samsung tried to empty their shelves.
Especially the older ones.
Then prioritize Software porting until any phone is running stable on Gear Vr.
And then approach Gyroscope simulation on any Cardboard Headset to make it a Gear Vr.
But it's highly likely that the experience is worse. I mean Samsung is not stupid for putting a dedicated tracking circuit board inside the Gear Vr. They know that Smartphones don't have the best gyros etc. Mediocre Sensors are enough for Smartphone uses but when you are in VR you need a much higher sampling rate , hence the upgraded gyros in the Gear Vr. (Oculus and vive are the same)
So there is that. But it doesn't stop there. Let's say you ignore the last point or let's say your Gyroscope is good enough , there is still one big issue:
All gear vr content is made for the gear vrs optics. So you would need to find a cardboard headset that comes closest to the Gear Vrs lenses, lens to screen distance and face to lens distance and lPD( distance between L&R lens ... which should be the least problem though since many headsets have an adjustable IPD)
So to sum it up. The best bet would be to do the obvious . Use the gear vr with another android phone for gear vr experience.
Let's hope you can get that to work. Keep up the good work. And amazing talent at that age. 14 wow.
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Now I have freetime on my vocation.about hardware is not a problem. Like gyroscope sensor.I have arduino. I have c++.I have electronic skill.Im coding with hardware.Im atill lucky to have a external hardware to use with this gear vr port.
About vr headset.I have google cardboard and VRBox. Recently I just play minecraft gear vr with my friend(with gamepad joy stick).
Update :I have way to test with hardware !!!
After I know the open-gear.com It's good news because we can have external hardware incluced with gyroscope .Im considering to buy them and manualy flash bootloader to it.but if you are bad at electronic DIY .you can also buy the pre programmed hardware for about $30 .it's good price for me but with the shipping to Thailand the shipping cost can be same as hardware kit .if you are in usa .you can buy the pre programmed kit by this link: open-gear.com and scroll down to
"Midnight Sun"kit you can see a screenshot from my phone.
And who can buy the hardware and program it with yourself
Just search for STM32F3 Discovery boardin Digikey Mouser Ebay or Distributor in your country. You can learn mor about flash bootloader in their website : open-gear.com
is work on a7 2017 with this file?
thx