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Stamina mode = Built-in Juice Defender?

Hi,
I am using Juice Defender Ultimate on my SXS to pump up battery life and it helps a lot. This Stamina mode on the Z - is this about the same thing offered by Sony right out of the box? W. Does it also offer detailed options to modify the settings to my liking or has is it a more radical impact on the system?

It's sort of the same, perhaps a bit more limited since it gives you less control while also being more effective. Basically when you turn it on it tries to force a deep sleep after a while in standby and it turns off the data connection if you have no exclusions.
With exclusions the data connection will most likely stay on but it'll still go in deep sleep and only wakes up for apps in your exclusion list.
I have to say it works extremely well. Battery drain in standby with stamina mode on and a few exclusions (Gmail, FB Messenger, WhatsApp, GTalk) is virtually zero.

Thats what juice defender and power saver should've been.
You information is informative ambroos.
Your from esato? Correct me if im wrong.
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It should have more impact on the device. Juice defender may have some similarities with stamina mode but let's also consider the integration of the feature.
1st juice defender is a 3rd party option and most probably has only limited things which it can do to the device itself. While the stamina mode is an integrated part of the OS so we could expect a 100% compatibility with all it's features.
It's basically like this...
Maybe you could compare it to a real life situation like this.
Battery defender = sleeping pills
Stamina mode = natural sleep

DarkKrypt said:
Thats what juice defender and power saver should've been.
You information is informative ambroos.
Your from esato? Correct me if im wrong.
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I'm everywhere Was here before I was on Esato.
There are times when Stamina Mode can't be enforced though. Then you get a notification that for example Google Plus is preventing the phone from entering Stamina Mode. Usually when those apps are doing some background syncing. But in general it works really well.

and now the big question will adding some 3rd parts app like juice defender or simmilar increase battery life even moar ??

I think installing a third party app like battery defender will interfere with stamina mode because you then have two similar features trying to do the same thing which might give you the opposite results. I think

The main problem with Stamina Mode is that it won't actually stop services/apps. Since I have Gmail and Exchange syncing Stamina just notifies me that those services are preventing sleep; obviously I wouldn't want stop those from syncing. I really wish it would just allow a set 'burst' mode, let you specify the interval and force all syncing/updates to occur during that window.

Ambroos said:
It's sort of the same, perhaps a bit more limited since it gives you less control while also being more effective. Basically when you turn it on it tries to force a deep sleep after a while in standby and it turns off the data connection if you have no exclusions.
With exclusions the data connection will most likely stay on but it'll still go in deep sleep and only wakes up for apps in your exclusion list.
I have to say it works extremely well. Battery drain in standby with stamina mode on and a few exclusions (Gmail, FB Messenger, WhatsApp, GTalk) is virtually zero.
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I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?

parapaul said:
I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
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Suppose you are in a meeting or at the movies, you could save a lot of battery if g3/g4 is switched off. If you check every 2 minutes your phone I can imagine it doesn't matter although I suppose they switch the antennas off after longer inactivity

parapaul said:
I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
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Not sure. I use it with exclusions so data stays on anyway. Not sure if it actually does anything but the battery does last long and the notifications I want still arrive...

Ambroos said:
Not sure. I use it with exclusions so data stays on anyway. Not sure if it actually does anything but the battery does last long and the notifications I want still arrive...
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Are you sure the exceptions aren't Smart Connect? Stamina Mode is just a toggle, at least for me.

Try to tap the name of it, not the toggle
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[Q] Stamina Mode not working

Got my Xperia Z sim free on Friday. Everything was working fine initially but Stamina Mode just doesn't seem to be working properly now. Don't know if it's a software or hardware problem?
When I press the toggle, the standby time left doesn't change at all? And the figure it gives seem permanently low. I've charged it fully overnight and it says standby time left is 8 hours? That said when I have left it in Stamina Mode its told me on a couple of occasions that certain apps are preventing it from working properly (Google Sync etc) but it'd be nice to know if it was working.
Any ideas?

sihaworth said:
Got my Xperia Z sim free on Friday. Everything was working fine initially but Stamina Mode just doesn't seem to be working properly now. Don't know if it's a software or hardware problem?
When I press the toggle, the standby time left doesn't change at all? And the figure it gives seem permanently low. I've charged it fully overnight and it says standby time left is 8 hours? That said when I have left it in Stamina Mode its told me on a couple of occasions that certain apps are preventing it from working properly (Google Sync etc) but it'd be nice to know if it was working.
Any ideas?
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Some problem here... So probably is a bug on the firmware. On the 4.2.2 probably will be fix

Same problem here was fine on first day then went all odd.

Likewise
I'm also seeing this problem. In addition it appears the Google mail client which was getting mails by push due to it being white listed in the stamina application list have also stopped coming through when the screen is in standby. Be good to see what that the situation is.

Same.... Stamina mode takes a while to update the standby from memory. I
white listed gmail and stopped getting mail. Maybe it's just not that clever or as data is off it can't truly be white listed.
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Same as of today.
Standby time has no change with toggle on or off.
Showing 14hrs off full charge.
Cleared everything out of stamina mode & reset defaults on all apps but no change.
Don't fancy doing a factory reset yet so I'll lurk here & see if it gets resolved any other way.

Same here.. But im guessing the stamina mode takes the avg time of our usage too, being a new toy we use it alot.. Hence the total time is from our usage... Only my humble opinion thou

My stamina mode seems to be working again. Yesterday it stopped and would show the same figure regardless of whether on or off. Woke up this morning, now on 75% it's showing 15hours on, 8 hours off. But nowhere near the 4 days I was getting on 90% when I first got it.

No issues here with stamina mode. I'm not sure yet if it makes a difference, but at least it's working
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Stamina Mode is buggy as hell, done a few tests and with it on my mail doesnt come through even though its white-listed. It only stops notifications coming though, it doesnt turn the data off like it says it does. Hope 4.2 fixes these problems.

My stamina mode seems to be working again, bugy things :highfive:

MrL1 said:
My stamina mode seems to be working again, bugy things :highfive:
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What did you do?

Had this pop up today.
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DeadlyDazza said:
What did you do?
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I didn't do nothing simply start working again, its a bug thing clearly :fingers-crossed:

reudyfam said:
Had this pop up today.
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Same here. I also have Exchange (Hotmail push) that is "preventing stamina mode from saving power"
Does anyone know whats going on here with this notification?
I didnt quite get the idea of Stamina.
Was it supposed to disable data when screen off?
or just prevent apps from using data but keeps the data connection alive?

Something is seriously wrong with this software!
I have already made a reset and a repair of the phone and everytime the result is the same...
In the first couple of days stamina is working right, after the second day (third day at the most), it stops working!
Anyone knows how to fix it?

I've thought I was the only one having this kind of issue... Well the same thing happened to me. The strange fact was, that stamina mode stopped worked after I've rooted the device. I was thinking the r00t made the stamina mode doesn't work. I guess I was wrong... Stamina mode was the coolest feature on this phone - it will be sad if we can't use it

Out of the box my stamina mode was showing 30+ hours on & 20+ off.
2 weeks later it's now showing 18 on & 12 off on a full charge.
F***ing thing!

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Guys, you should try the Sony Update Service software - it helped me.
I got 20hrs. on average and Stamina mode not working, also that fast discharging with not entering Deep Sleep. All is fixed now when I have just re-flashed the stock ROM. (May be the Stock ROM downloaded through the Sony Update Service is somehow modified and not the same version I had on the phone initially).

how to fix the xperia z stamina mode
1.switch On the stamina mode and low battery mode
2.Connect the charger and charge your Xperia Z
3.Wait until it reach 100%
4.Check the stamina mode .....
It's happen for me.......:good:

Stamina mode - Help Needed

Hi Guys,
I got my XZ on the 1st of march and I absolutely love it, in fact the only thing I preferred about my previous Note 2 was the larger screen, everything else on the XZ is just better.
Anyway.... I'm getting mixed results with stamina mode.
At first, after a full charge I stamina mode would report several days standby time, nut in the last week I only get about 12 hours.
Last night I didnt put the phone on charge, it had 60% battery when I went to bed, I wake up this morning (only 8 hours later) and the battery is on 4%. I checked the battery usage and it said 51% Android system (up till now the screen had been the largest user of battery)
Now I know its probabbly some app preventing stamina mode from putting the phone to sleep, but I cant work out which one.
Is there any way to see specifically which app or part of the android system is using that much power while the phone is on standby?
Are there some options I'm missing which force all apps to sleep?
Does stamina mode automatically turn off wifi and gps when the phone is on standby?
Any advice would be much appreciated.

Stamina Mode not working?
look at my screenshots
the first two days the difference with and without stamina-mode was huge...so from 1day to 3-4 days
sync is off
facebook deaktivated
and lots of other things are deaktivated
only whatsapp is on
what could the problem be?
if stamina mode is on...every thing is deaktivated...there aren't extra apps which still will down/upld data in stamina mode

Akkuschonmodus - I do not have this enabled along with Stamina mode.
Why are you if you are on 92% ?
Should have nothing to do with this problem tho.
Kind regards, Stefan.

stamina mod dont work
hello everyone. i have similar problems with stamina as you do.when i bought my phone and i turn stamina mod on it shows me 4 days. after few days it was only 12 hours more and now my stamina mod dont work .when i turn stamina on nothing happened, estimated time stay same. i have stock rom stock kernel ,locked bootloader and i am rooted. do anyone the same problem as me? what can i do? thank you

feskysvk said:
hello everyone. i have similar problems with stamina as you do.when i bought my phone and i turn stamina mod on it shows me 4 days. after few days it was only 12 hours more and now my stamina mod dont work .when i turn stamina on nothing happened, estimated time stay same. i have stock rom stock kernel ,locked bootloader and i am rooted. do anyone the same problem as me? what can i do? thank you
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yeah i have the same problem

futurama said:
Hi Guys,
I got my XZ on the 1st of march and I absolutely love it, in fact the only thing I preferred about my previous Note 2 was the larger screen, everything else on the XZ is just better.
Anyway.... I'm getting mixed results with stamina mode.
At first, after a full charge I stamina mode would report several days standby time, nut in the last week I only get about 12 hours.
Last night I didnt put the phone on charge, it had 60% battery when I went to bed, I wake up this morning (only 8 hours later) and the battery is on 4%. I checked the battery usage and it said 51% Android system (up till now the screen had been the largest user of battery)
Now I know its probabbly some app preventing stamina mode from putting the phone to sleep, but I cant work out which one.
Is there any way to see specifically which app or part of the android system is using that much power while the phone is on standby?
Are there some options I'm missing which force all apps to sleep?
Does stamina mode automatically turn off wifi and gps when the phone is on standby?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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i experienced this too
and don think any problem
cause when u use phone and apps they store lots of data that need to process (the exclude apps in stamina)
So time will reduce.
i had 4 days now i have 1day.14hrs BUT after 48hrs it didn't use even 50% of battery. (it was 54% )
anyway if u think u have problem restart ur phone with power button + vol.up (hold down 10 seconds)
and then turn on ur phone.
Or reset factory.

Does Stamina Mode activate when screen is off or 15 minutes after screen is off?

I've heard some say Stamina mode starts working as soon as you lock your phone and heard others say that it starts 15 minutes after you lock your phone. Does anyone know when Stamina mode kicks in?
This is my situation:
Cleared stamina mode data. Restarted phone.
Enabled Stamina mode
This is not connected to WiFi. It's all LTE only.
No apps is whitelisted, but I am still receiving gmail, epsn, and facebook notifications when the phone is locked.

My observation of Stamina mode. Doesn't immediately take effect after screen is off.
This is what I observed after playing around with Stamina mode on the Z3C. My build version is: 23.0.1.A.5.79 and running Android Version 4.4.4.
When you manually lock the screen it doesn't immediately go into stamina mode, and I can still receive data from all apps and get all notifications.
After about 5 mins of staying locked with no interruption from data received and notifications, Stamina mode will start working and only allow the allowed list of apps to receive data and display notifications. Another observation is that once Stamina mode is working as it should and one of the allowed apps wakes up the screen, Stamina mode will continue block any apps not listed as allowed to receive data and continue to work, which is PERFECT.
However, if any data is received between the time you lock the screen and the 5 min mark, notifications can keep coming from any app until the full 5 mins has gone through with no interruption from any apps data or notifications.
My question is why doesn't Stamina mode take effect immediately after you lock your phone and the screen is off? If it waits for 5 mins and data keeps coming every 1-4 mins, then Stamina mode will never be activated and the battery will drain as normal.

I think i read in the official Sony site that Stamina kicks in after 1 minute of locking the phone. I read so last month.
Sent from my Compact Beast The Third.

Sadman Khan said:
I think i read in the official Sony site that Stamina kicks in after 1 minute of locking the phone. I read so last month.
Sent from my Compact Beast The Third.
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Looks like there is an article here: "Starting one minute after the screen has been turned off, data traffic is automatically blocked and background activities are prevented from waking up the system" I can't post a link yet since I'm new here, but Add http to this: developer.sonymobile.com/2013/04/03/how-sonys-battery-stamina-mode-works/

Hmmmm. Something must be wrong with my phone then.

I found out that Stamina mode will enable itself based on your usage history. See this article: talk.sonymobile.com/t5/FAQ/Battery-time-and-enhancement-features/m-p/347874#U347874

mrjustdoit said:
I found out that Stamina mode will enable itself based on your usage history. See this article: talk.sonymobile.com/t5/FAQ/Battery-time-and-enhancement-features/m-p/347874#U347874
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I didnt read anything in there that suggests Stamina Mode turns on automatically. All they said was that the estimated usage will change based on your previous usage.

P9 b505 stock always awake keep discharging 10% every night. help!

Ive p9 stock firmware never unlocked or rooted ive last update b505
The phone keep discharging all the time and 10% every night when in airplane mode with all process closed
Checking battery usage details i can see the battery dischargin by night with screen off no app using battery and airplane mode on, so wifi and mobile network off.
The problem i can see is that in battery usage details the phone is always AWAKE, when screen off is awake, when airplane mode on is still awake. The awake line is full while the screen, the wifi, etc are never full, but the awake line is full no empty space
I have checked and no apps are running all the time, no apps are set to ignore battery optimization or to run in background, ive tried to uninstall all third party apps but no fix also ive tried to factory reset the phone but no fix
Any help? Cant find any solution brosing the forum and internet

raniero1 said:
Ive p9 stock firmware never unlocked or rooted ive last update b505
The phone keep discharging all the time and 10% every night when in airplane mode with all process closed
Checking battery usage details i can see the battery dischargin by night with screen off no app using battery and airplane mode on, so wifi and mobile network off.
The problem i can see is that in battery usage details the phone is always AWAKE, when screen off is awake, when airplane mode on is still awake. The awake line is full while the screen, the wifi, etc are never full, but the awake line is full no empty space
I have checked and no apps are running all the time, no apps are set to ignore battery optimization or to run in background, ive tried to uninstall all third party apps but no fix also ive tried to factory reset the phone but no fix
Any help? Cant find any solution brosing the forum and internet
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Bluetooth maybe on?
Did you try by not putting to Airplane (you can put to Silent or Don't disturb), to see if still Awake all time?

Yeah is still awake

Same shiet here, but on B504. The greenify helped a little.