I'm looking in every now and then following up on development av new ROMs, but it seems as this has stopped.
alcaline no longer develops his ROM and there hasn't been any resent updates in arpy's thread either. Have I missed someone? Are there more ROMs out there for the Wings that I don't know of?
If you know, post some info or maybe some links to new ROMs that are compatible with the Wings (s730).
TIA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397164
And i am going to upload the kitchen for wings
because i don't have this phone.
Excelent!
Must have passed right beneeth my nose
thx!
Not much going on for the Wings (cooked ROMs)
I think the development of cooked roms for the Wings are fainting. Unfortunately I would say because I think there is lots to gain if someone develop a better and faster WM6.1 ROM for our unit. There are 2 ROMS available now and for both ROMS counts that there is not much going on in terms of development.
I currently use Alcaline's cooked ROM. It does a fine job but there are some glitches to work on. Unfortunately Alcaline stops working on the project.
True. Seems sad, as this is a great unit.
I'm thinking about taking up development of a ROM but I have to read up on a couple of things first. I'm no programmer but a amature hacker. So don't expect any miracles (or speed for that matter).
Any input from the already enlightened would be nice.
To me it seems that there is no more exciting things to work on for this phone.
The speed (or lack of speed) is due to the crappy phone itself. So not much to do about this
Except disabling the home screen, with increases the overall usage quite a bit for me at least.
But disabling this makes the whole interface ugly.
So I am holding on to this phone just hoping that a unit with Google Android will pop up in near future,
where everything is customizable
There are so many ROMs for the Rhodium. Is there a way we could list them all in one place, rank them (such as speed, stability, wow factor) and also list the software included?
For me I am just looking for a ROM that is extremely fast, and rock solid stable. The eye candy is great but speed and stability are #1 for me.
Other people have other needs so it would be good to have a ranking system or some sort of comparison.
i agree, i also was looking for something like this.
A spreadsheet of features with check boxes would probably be more helpful than ranking. Ranking is subjective as you pointed out and people may have different criteria! Using a simple spreadsheet with features and installed software that can be "checked" for each release would be good though!
funny you should ask cause I did put one of those together.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566631
I keep updating it but after a day or so it drops of the main page. I try to update at least once a week.
if there are things you want added to the spreadsheet let me know. however, it would be very time consuming to list all the different software changes between roms. I just list the major rom features.
In the Super D thread, somebody suggested a 'ROM Hall of Fame.' I've decided to do something similar. This thread is about the ROMs that I recommend for different uses. It's difficult to explain, but you'll understand soon enough. Anyway, let's get on with it.
For Newbies/Inexperienced Users
For people who are just getting started with rooted Android, there's only really one recommendation that I can make, and that is, of course, the ever-popular CyanogenMod. This is an Android 1.6 build, and it's probably the most famous of all custom Android builds. Originally built upon JF's build of Android, CyanogenMod has now become a build in its own right. It's incredibly stable, it's fast, and it's really all that you'd ever need for your phone. If you want something that's simple, but still really good, CyanogenMod is the way to go.
For More Advanced Users
There are two builds that I can whole-heartedly recommend for the more advanced Android user. In the same way that CyanogenMod started as a modification of JF's build, these two builds are heavily based upon other popular builds of Android.
The first of these is WG-Build, a modification of CyanogenMod. This is my current everyday ROM, and I really like it. For more information on the exact changes, check out the thread, but the main difference between WG-Build and CyanogenMod is the kernel. Wes has been working hard on his custom WG-Kernel, which is the driving force behind the speed of his build. It comes in several different varieties depending on what you want. I use the CFS with RAM Hack, because CFS is more stable than the faster BFS, and the RAM hack is of great use too. WG-Build is one of the fastest builds you'll find, and it is my personal recommendation.
However, you may prefer Super D. This ROM is essentially a modification of a ROM by Dwang, although it has come a long way since then. This ROM is thought by many to be the fastest available, although from personal experience, there is little difference between Super D and WG-Build. This is more of a personal choice as to which build you prefer, so try them both. I prefer WG-Build, but you may prefer Super D. It is your choice.
Eclair ROMs
TO COME.
Hero/Sense ROMs
Again, TO COME.
Guys, is this a good idea? If you think it is, let me know, but if you think it's a waste of time, then I'll drop the idea.
Yeah man keep it up, im on cyan but if your saying the other roms are quicker ima give it a go!!
Might I add, try and link to as many pages as you can!!!
In my opinion this idea is good. There are many roms for the g1 available atm...
But i would modify it a bit:
I would prefer a kind of table or database with a quick overview about the current ROMs.
Having this, u can still make recommondations.
Example:
ROM: Eclair_2.1-v1.5 G1
dev: manup456
base: 2.1
devices: MT3G 32B
Features: Camera, LWP [...]
Issues: FC latin_ime [...]
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In addition, we could maybe collect ratings (poll?) on facts like speed, look, stability... so that everybody can pick his rom according to his personal criterias...
Che123 said:
In my opinion this idea is good. There are many roms for the g1 available atm...
But i would modify it a bit:
I would prefer a kind of table or database with a quick overview about the current ROMs.
Having this, u can still make recommondations.
Example:
ROM: Eclair_2.1-v1.5 G1
dev: manup456
base: 2.1
devices: MT3G 32B
Features: Camera, LWP [...]
Issues: FC latin_ime [...]
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In addition, we could maybe collect ratings (poll?) on facts like speed, look, stability... so that everybody can pick his rom according to his personal criterias...
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm aiming for. It's sorta similar to the ROM Database at AndroidSpin.com, but it's a different idea. I might actually ask Simon if he can help me with it.
bolmedias said:
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm aiming for. It's sorta similar to the ROM Database at AndroidSpin.com, but it's a different idea. I might actually ask Simon if he can help me with it.
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But at androidspin there are too many details and no userrating. And it's not up2date
ATM there are daily new roms or updates, and the only way to make rom-overview useful is to keep it updated
Sounds very good and if it's kept simple and informative this will be very usefull - not only for newbies
I will keep an eye on that
Che123 said:
But at androidspin there are too many details and no userrating. And it's not up2date
ATM there are daily new roms or updates, and the only way to make rom-overview useful is to keep it updated
Sounds very good and if it's kept simple and informative this will be very usefull - not only for newbies
I will keep an eye on that
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I'm gonna ask Simon if he's interested by this idea, just to see if he is or not. But I will try and maintain this myself, for sure.
The idea is good, but, how do you decide which way is more informative? If you settle on a "feature's list" like Che123 suggested, then you take out the actual experiences of people who've used the roms out. On the other hand, if you approach it like you first did, stating your opinion on which roms are best suited for what, then the information is narrow (limited only to the roms YOU've tried), subjective, and (some might argue) possibly skewed. A combination of both, I'm afraid, would ultimately pick up more of the flaws of either method than the benefits.
I personally believe the problem lies in the solution not being so clear-cut. There's just too many roms for all of them to be drastically different, and most often the difference between them is the availability of feature(a) against feature(b). In some cases, the only difference is the developer, or the name of the rom! (but just a few cases.)
I think an approach that might work, maybe, would be to make a list with:
ROM Name:
Feature 1: [X]
Feature 2: [X]
Feature 3: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature n: [X]
Highlights:
Opinions:
Features 1-n would be what we consider standard on roms (a2sd, compcache, swap, etc). We'd list highlights with things that actually make the rom different from others, for example, WG's kernel against CM's kernel, or X's themed rom as opposed to Y's un-themed rom, etc.
Opinions is where the meat would be. User experiences would be listed so that we know to expect force-closes, or slowdowns, reboots, or maybe just a smooth-sailing all around. Might even be a long comment section for different users and with an option to separate good opinions from bad opinions from neutral opinions so that we can read all the bad or all the good in one fell swoop rather than have to follow through the usual ranting and fighting that goes on at the forum already.
Anyway, I'm rooting for this, I just wish it were easier.
And to further add to what you suggested in your original post; another field that describes "Target Audience:" (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, Multimedia, Professional, Linux Power-User, etc.).
Fount this over in the Sapphire section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618220
It looks nice so far but is still short of data...
Maybe you're interestet in collaborating with him?
jubeh said:
The idea is good, but, how do you decide which way is more informative? If you settle on a "feature's list" like Che123 suggested, then you take out the actual experiences of people who've used the roms out. On the other hand, if you approach it like you first did, stating your opinion on which roms are best suited for what, then the information is narrow (limited only to the roms YOU've tried), subjective, and (some might argue) possibly skewed. A combination of both, I'm afraid, would ultimately pick up more of the flaws of either method than the benefits.
I personally believe the problem lies in the solution not being so clear-cut. There's just too many roms for all of them to be drastically different, and most often the difference between them is the availability of feature(a) against feature(b). In some cases, the only difference is the developer, or the name of the rom! (but just a few cases.)
I think an approach that might work, maybe, would be to make a list with:
ROM Name:
Feature 1: [X]
Feature 2: [X]
Feature 3: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature n: [X]
Highlights:
Opinions:
Features 1-n would be what we consider standard on roms (a2sd, compcache, swap, etc). We'd list highlights with things that actually make the rom different from others, for example, WG's kernel against CM's kernel, or X's themed rom as opposed to Y's un-themed rom, etc.
Opinions is where the meat would be. User experiences would be listed so that we know to expect force-closes, or slowdowns, reboots, or maybe just a smooth-sailing all around. Might even be a long comment section for different users and with an option to separate good opinions from bad opinions from neutral opinions so that we can read all the bad or all the good in one fell swoop rather than have to follow through the usual ranting and fighting that goes on at the forum already.
Anyway, I'm rooting for this, I just wish it were easier.
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I think the soloution is a mix of everything: Facts, general user rating and your recommondation.
A featurelist for the common features, like you mentioned above are a good idea too...
If we got all the features-data in a database we could also build a automatic rom-chooser
i would add following things to the list:
Base: (there are currently 1.6, 2.0, 2.01, 2.1)
Supported Devices: (there are always people flashing a wrong rom and wondering why it's not working )
and a link to the thread of course.
domenukk said:
Fount this over in the Sapphire section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618220
It looks nice so far but is still short of data...
Maybe you're interestet in collaborating with him?
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I wasn't really intent on doing a piece of software, and besides, it misses the point.
Jubeh, I think that you've hit the nail on the head there. What I'm thinking of with this thread was to eliminate the need for people to read through each individual ROM's thread in order to find out if there are any problems, how fast it is, basically exactly what you've suggested. It's about user experiences.
Actually doing this as a forum thread will be quite difficult, though. Any ideas on how we could do it?
which are the differences between cfs wg build and bfs wg build?
marcocrash said:
which are the differences between cfs wg build and bfs wg build?
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Stability and Speed. BFS makes for a faster ROM, but Wes himself has said that there is an issue with memory leakage. CFS is not as quick, but it's far more stable.
This is the exact sort of question that I want this thread to answer about each ROM.
i don't really like the idea of an desktop app either.
I would like to see something web-based. But as you said: This won't be very good as forum thread. Maybe you could ask someone from xda, if they are willing to give you same webspace for this project. Maybe in cooperation with other users you could build a database for all kind of devices
Somebody could develop an app thats based on the database of the software maybe?
for afaik his software uses some sort oft sql. maybe eaven mysql. have a look web developers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618220
Stability and Speed. BFS makes for a faster ROM, but Wes himself has said that there is an issue with memory leakage
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Wes himself uses BFS+Ramhack, according to his signature
OpenVPN
Please add that OpenVPN works out of the box in Cyanogen ROM, just install Tunneldroid or openvpnGUI.
In Dwang, it could support it, but you need to overwrite some libraries and add openssl and crypto libraries, thou Dwang rom has TUN built into the kernel.
I have not tried OpenVPN on super-D or WG.
I have been reading a bunch of HTC One vs S4 threads and been watching them. And I feel like everyone is making the comparisons on each stock, which makes sense. But I was wondering which is better when rooted and both having a custom rom and kernel. Since I know that having a custom rom and kernel can make the overall performance better.
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
Thanks guys And if there is a thread like this comparing the roms and kernels of each device against each other, then post a link and I can ask to close this thread.
Posted this in the S4 forum as well to have opinions on both sides and not just on one side, which isn't fair.
choboii said:
I have been reading a bunch of HTC One vs S4 threads and been watching them. And I feel like everyone is making the comparisons on each stock, which makes sense. But I was wondering which is better when rooted and both having a custom rom and kernel. Since I know that having a custom rom and kernel can make the overall performance better.
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
Thanks guys And if there is a thread like this comparing the roms and kernels of each device against each other, then post a link and I can ask to close this thread.
Posted this in the S4 forum as well to have opinions on both sides and not just on one side, which isn't fair.
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It's not different at alllllllllllll.
It's not allowed, and everyone here will say the HTC One.
There's no point to this, promotes arguments and trolling. Don't start it.
All your questions require knowledge and use of both phones. I know a few people have both but a lot of people here haven't spent £1000 on 2 phones, so will only own the HTC One. Therefore the S4 answers will be a load of crap
I am getting tired of reading about comparisons and threads turning into arguments because of such issues. Bottom line is, devices should be fairly compared on a stock basis and not with custom ROMs or kernels. There are benchmark tests and others available online, just use Google and you'll find everything you're looking for. They are both great devices and that competition in the latest technology, features and market price are what make the world of smartphones better, which in turn benefits us.
choboii said:
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
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This is not different. Please use the search feature and ask your question in an already existing thread.
To answer your questions though, I switched from the HTC One(running TrickDroid/ARHD, Bulletproof kernel) to the Galaxy S4(running WanamLite, ktoonz kernel) and now back to the HTC One(ARHD, Beastmode kernel). The HTC One has, by far, been the better experience. It's smoother, faster, and more responsive than my S4--on top of that, I actually used the "unique" features of the One(Blinkfeed, Zoe, etc) whereas on the SGS4 in an effort to smooth it out, I turned most of it's "unique" features off. Overall, I found most of it's "unique" features to be very gimmicky.
Here's what it comes down to: Neither phone is better than the other. There is no "best" phone. The closest you can get is picking a phone that has the features YOU want and that are important to YOU.