Chargers and peoples use of them. - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Basically I've noticed more and more people creating DIY chargers, docks, doing dodgy repairs and such on broken ones and the like.
Why? A genuine Sony charger will only set you back about £3 on Amazon.
I genuinely am curious why people make their own or attempt to repair broken ones.
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I agree with you. You buy a new one and you don't have more problems. Why so complicate and repair it? It's more easy to buy once like you say it :laugh:

Kirkymole said:
Basically I've noticed more and more people creating DIY chargers, docks, doing dodgy repairs and such on broken ones and the like.
Why? A genuine Sony charger will only set you back about £3 on Amazon.
I genuinely am curious why people make their own or attempt to repair broken ones.
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a dock is surely more than 3 gbp.
it think they create dyi chargers for the docks charging port in order to avoid having to open the usb-flaps on the side (for a normal usb charger).

hebbe said:
a dock is surely more than 3 gbp.
it think they create dyi chargers for the docks charging port in order to avoid having to open the usb-flaps on the side (for a normal usb charger).
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No, up in the market near me they have docks for £2.50 upto about £40. Don't get me wrong, the cheap ones are rubbish but it's still a dock. Seems odd, my USB flap fell off yesterday so I don't have that problem lol, and my heaphone flap fell off ages ago.

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Looking for a desk cradle/stand (No Dock)

Hey everyone. I'm after a cradle stand for my desk at work that doesn't have a dock. Can't seem to find any. Can only find ones with a charging dock.
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The google told me you named it wrong. Simply look up cell phone stand... profit.
one guy also posted awhile back about a home made stand. Using an old hotel key, he bent in a way that you can cradle your phone in.
edit: thread title was "need a dock? I got one for free"
I would google portable book stand. You can find something for around $10 or less.
Another option you may want to look at is the Rockfish PadPivo. You can find the first version for five to ten dollars on sale. The new version is around forty dollars. It's a bit more robust in that you can use it on a desk, or other places by using it on your leg. I've done bot. I picked up the first version for five dollars on sale at Bestbuy
I have a simple folding portable stand for my ten inch tablet that I keep in my tablet cas. I've used one or twice with the GN2, but it was a bit of overkill
T4rken said:
one guy also posted awhile back about a home made stand. Using an old hotel key, he bent in a way that you can cradle your phone in.
edit: thread title was "need a dock? I got one for free"
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Could you be referring to the starbuck's cardboard?
xartic12 said:
Could you be referring to the starbuck's cardboard?
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No, it's this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062688
layziebone said:
Hey everyone. I'm after a cradle stand for my desk at work that doesn't have a dock. Can't seem to find any. Can only find ones with a charging dock.
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I use a business card holder. You can find one at Staples or Office Depot for about $2 - $5. There are a ton of options and they look much better than a bent credit card.
Samsung Battery case/stand
layziebone said:
Hey everyone. I'm after a cradle stand for my desk at work that doesn't have a dock. Can't seem to find any. Can only find ones with a charging dock.
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I got this one http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-H1J9VMAGSTA and I really like it. Came with an extra battery and charger to boot.
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I got this one http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-H1J9VMAGSTA and I really like it. Came with an extra battery and charger to boot.
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I'll vouch for this
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Use Smart Dock with case/extended battery?

So basically I've got a 9300mAh ZeroLemon battery... is there any sort of cable or extension thing I could get so I could use it with the Note II dock from Samsung? I know it's not just a normal male MicroUSB connector but something with a few extra pins. In theory you could make a female connector with the extra pins and just have a small cable run from the dock to your phone... but I'm not good with DIY sort of stuff. Does anything exist that I could buy that would let me do this? thanks.
KosanRio said:
So basically I've got a 9300mAh ZeroLemon battery... is there any sort of cable or extension thing I could get so I could use it with the Note II dock from Samsung? I know it's not just a normal male MicroUSB connector but something with a few extra pins. In theory you could make a female connector with the extra pins and just have a small cable run from the dock to your phone... but I'm not good with DIY sort of stuff. Does anything exist that I could buy that would let me do this? thanks.
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I'm sorry I don't think I know what you want to do, really.
Do you mean you want to use your ZeroLemon while using the Smart Dock?
I want this too. A cable as an extension of the actual docking male connection for phones with extended batteries or bigger phone cases.
The phone would not sit in the dock but would be connected to it and able to use all the dock functions. Something we cant do with the zero lemon battery.
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planetbeen said:
I want this too. A cable as an extension of the actual docking male connection for phones with extended batteries or bigger phone cases.
The phone would not sit in the dock but would be connected to it and able to use all the dock functions. Something we cant do with the zero lemon battery.
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Hi,
Why not just remove the TPU case?
I have the ZeroLemon and connected it to the Smart Dock no problem.
I didn't think it would fit...then I went on vacation and havent had a chance to play with it. Vacation ends tomorrow unfortunately.
I thought about taking the tpu off but didn't know if the battery would be secure enough without it.
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planetbeen said:
I didn't think it would fit...then I went on vacation and havent had a chance to play with it. Vacation ends tomorrow unfortunately.
I thought about taking the tpu off but didn't know if the battery would be secure enough without it.
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I already tried it. I have both Smart Dock and Zero Lemon. Just hold the battery while inserting it on the Smart Dock.
I don't wanna have to take it off everytime...
What is needed is some smarty fella to make an extension dongle. 1/2 inch should do it. Would allow all case fits with goodies.
KosanRio said:
I don't wanna have to take it off everytime...
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It takes less than a second, just as long as plugging in the cable lol.
Ive been looking foe something too... I have an otter box...and it doesnt fit...
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Did you find something for your Otter Box case and Smart Dock?
bonez537 said:
Ive been looking foe something too... I have an otter box...and it doesnt fit...
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I have an Otter Box Defender case on my Galaxy Note 2 and want to buy a Smart Dock but know it won't fit. Did you find some work around for this?

Xperia Z1 Car Dock?

Anyone heard anything about an official car dock?
First Sony phone for ages and I'm not sure if Sony tend to sell phone car docks. Suspect the magnetic charging pins are for power only - my old Galaxy Nexus had 3 pins, one of which is for data.
Sony has actually produced a fair few accessories this time around (some being universal, which is also a good thing).
However the car holder is just that - a holder. To me that seems rather stupid, as if you were going to use it as a SatNav (with the screen on) then you're going to either kill the battery while driving, or soon after.
Why couldn't Sony produce a holder that could charge via the pogo pins? Imagine how good that would be! Then include a smart tag (NFC) so that once you put the phone in the dock, it would connect to your car radio via Bluetooth and/or load up your SatNav software/Spotify or whatever.
And charging £40 is also a bit of a liberty if you ask me!
I hope we get a third party holder that does the above, and costs a bit less too.
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Sony has actually produced a fair few accessories this time around (some being universal, which is also a good thing).
However the car holder is just that - a holder. To me that seems rather stupid, as if you were going to use it as a SatNav (with the screen on) then you're going to either kill the battery while driving, or soon after.
Why couldn't Sony produce a holder that could charge via the pogo pins? Imagine how good that would be! Then include a smart tag (NFC) so that once you put the phone in the dock, it would connect to your car radio via Bluetooth and/or load up your SatNav software/Spotify or whatever.
And charging £40 is also a bit of a liberty if you ask me!
I hope we get a third party holder that does the above, and costs a bit less too.
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agree thats a bit expensive for a holder, I just bought one on amazon for £14, which I'll modify to charge as well
Brodit
a couple of days ago I've contacted brodit if they could tell me a date when the holder for the Z1 would be available.
They told me it would take a couple of days.
gstadt said:
Anyone heard anything about an official car dock?
First Sony phone for ages and I'm not sure if Sony tend to sell phone car docks. Suspect the magnetic charging pins are for power only - my old Galaxy Nexus had 3 pins, one of which is for data.
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There is the official one...but it just holds it. I really want one that has a charge attached, I can deal with a cable down for the headphone jack, but I can't live without power. Sony really missed a trick on that one.
Especially with the magnetic charger port, and the fact they're even selling the cable separate to the dock in some regions. How hard to rig up this very lead to a car holder?
well I did not find any sony manufactured genuine car dock for Z1 at Amazon..there are some on ebay but not find one for Z1 and they are bit expensive too....and also found some from other vendors at Fommy...they have variety of docks with reasonable prices...
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I found this genuine Sony car dock for the Z1. Looks pretty basic and personally I don't think it's worth the premium in price. Plenty of other generic ones out there unless you really must get the Sony one. Link
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That's the one I was talking about earlier. It doesn't charge, which seems rather silly as I've regularly driven for 6-7 hours in a day (albeit with breaks) using satellite navigation, and there's no way the Z1 would cope with that and not die part way through.
I really did expect it would have been a dock with an integral magentic charger. Of course, you can presumably rig up a separate cable of your own - but you'd expect to buy something that looks sleek and designed for the phone.
Of all the Sony accessories, this has to be the worst.
Just ordered on if these: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/ultra-desktop-dock-for-sony-xperia-z1-p41456.htm
Will use some sticky tape and stick it on my dash. Been using a Galaxy Nexus the same way with the desktop dock, works great, just drop the phone in the dock when you get in the car.
Any hard breaking and your phone will fall out of the dock and either smash into your windshield or in your face. I'd not use those dock type of holders.
It's not perfect, but I plan on using my iBolt I have had for several phones now, and just ordered a couple magnetic usb cables from EBay. I'll just attach it to the back and leave it dangling. Then I can simply flick it in place when required. Should work! I just wish the Z1 had the analogue USB audio with charging the S4 has......only thing I miss so far!
How many phones do carry audio via USB? The Motorola Atrix did (very nice car kit) but I've not found a phone since.
I like the dock but price is a bit steep. The only problem I have with my universal dock is that since all buttons are locked on one side its very hard to place without hitting the volume of camera button. I'm sure soon we will see some aftermarket copy cats that sell it a at a reasonable cost .
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
http://brodit.se/productList.html?brand=Sony&model=Xperia+Z1&pn=prod
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
RobbieTr said:
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
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Brodit always look so tacky though.
Considering there is a charge point on the bottom someone could design a nice looking dock.
The deskdock would work if it had a slightly higher back and then a clip that could fold up and hold onto the top of the phone.
It needs to be a design that doesn't look like it has been made in metal shop by a 7 year old when the phone is not in there.
Yeah I believe this is definitely something Sony need to wake up about, because these sort of things will hold them back. Sony need to ask themselves a question what is going to be the thing that is going to piss people off the most. Obviously opening and closing flaps every day. Love the headphones jack with no opening and closing flaps .
For a flagship phone people expect lots of accessories for the phone, extra battery life, protective cases, docks, car kits... I purchased the Xperia Z outright, and then expecting some accessories for the phone to be released after, and finally pretty much nothing, what seriously hoping for a car kit to utilise the charge pins. As a consumer I feel abandoned by Sony .
They have made come some way with the Xperia Z1 offering quite a few accessories at launch date, but note most if not almost all of them are generic. It shouldn't be 100% other companies responsibility to provide accessories for a flagship phone, it is Sony's and who cares if other Companies may manufacturer accessories.
I now have the Xperia Z1 and happy with the phone, and now in the same situation as everyone in thread looking for a car kit again, a little bit better this time because there is a possibility that I don't have to keep on opening a flaps any more.
Due to this I am sure a lot of people are not buying Sony phones regardless of how good they are. Come on Sony I really think you will find that a huge percentage of people require car kits, as they use phones for an in car gps, in addition most countries will fine you if you are not using your phone hands free.
Check out this one at ebay....It luks nice one....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dedicated-A...5392?pt=US_Mounts_Holders&hash=item3a7b6e6460
RobbieTr said:
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
http://brodit.se/productList.html?brand=Sony&model=Xperia+Z1&pn=prod
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
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I'm using the passive holder from Brodit/ProClip. It makes sense for me since I already had the car mount from a previous phone. It works quite well but it is overpriced for a simple piece of plastic. I don't like their powered options so am just using a magnetic charging cable with it.
Jimmy2u said:
Check out this one at ebay....It luks nice one....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dedicated-A...5392?pt=US_Mounts_Holders&hash=item3a7b6e6460
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Had something similar before not nice in my hot climate blocking the aircon.
Z1 case and car holder 2in1 (DIY)
Hi , I found solution which works for me so I decided to share with you.
Bought Wallet Stand Case for 4.95 on ebay and adapt my old, unused car mount for nokia 5800.
I cut off some corners of holder cradle to get flat surface and glued it to the back of the case. There are some pics..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395943&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395944&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395945&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395946&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395949&stc=1&d=1384627645
What I like in it is when I want to use my Z1 as sat nav the phone is still safe in its case with access to any buttons and no need to shift between case and car holder. Also you can use magnet charging cable as it easy access to magnet socket.

Charger dock available now on play store

Extra charger available on play store for 14.95 $
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pakure said:
Extra charger available on play store for 14.95 $
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Says coming soon here.
I got one, it arrived today. Just in case mine breaks. And it's JUST the dock. As in no plug or charging cable comes with it. Not a "major" thing, but usually charging docks come with a plug and cable.
Just a heads up for anyone planning to get one.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I got one, it arrived today. Just in case mine breaks. And it's JUST the dock. As in no plug or charging cable comes with it. Not a "major" thing, but usually charging docks come with a plug and cable.
Just a heads up for anyone planning to get one.
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Apparently it's not available for sale anymore.. mine just broke... using tape to hold charger in place... not very elegant..
rhesus98 said:
Apparently it's not available for sale anymore.. mine just broke... using tape to hold charger in place... not very elegant..
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I am using a rubber band to hold the charger and watch together.
I've been using a ponytail band
I use a clothes pin to hold mine into the charging dock. I had a chat session with Samsung support and they basically said that if the dock was "damaged" that it was not covered under warranty. Their version of damaged meant that the tab was missing. What a bunch of crap. Spineless to not stand behind their product.
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Extra charger available on play store for 14.95 $
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cool, thanks
Same
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Apparently it's not available for sale anymore.. mine just broke... using tape to hold charger in place... not very elegant..
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Mine's been broken for a couple of months now ;-;
The charging dock availability must've been very short-lived. Play Store doesn't sell it anymore ("The Samsung Gear Live Charging Dock is no longer available for purchase."), and hasn't for as long as I'd been looking for it.
I hold it together now with a 1-inch binder clip that's been sprung-out to reduce its tension. It works quite well, since I have a different strap (the strap's two "rivets" fell out shortly after I started wearing it, rendering it un-repairable).
Just before that happened, though, I noticed that the dock contacts were eroding, pitting, falling apart... and sure enough, now it's gotten to the point where they're all broken down to some degree, one is totally gone, and it only charges when the dock rests in a certain position.
So that's three failures:
- the band (cheap-ass rivets holding the metal buckle onto the plastic strap)
- the charging dock (when that dies, you have no more watch... sooo...)
- the charging dock contacts (when THOSE die, you're definitely screwed)
Seriously, WTF Samsung?
I purchased an additional one on ebay... I think for around $20.00 I keep a separate set of chargers for all my devices in my toiletry bag for travel, so I went ahead and bought a charger for the watch as well. I've used it several times when traveling and no issues so far.

magnet micro usb charge cable cheapo

got this cheapo magnet cable from aliexpress (will find the link later) ordered it weeks ago.
seems to charge at 8.8V @ 1.6A so its not bad for us$4 shipped.
makes it difficult to use a standard cable now. although there are better designed ones for $12 which are thinner and don't stick out as much.
video of cable is use and fast charging current voltage:
http://bit.do/magnet-usb-amp
vid of easy car charger concept:
http://bit.do/magnet-usb-car
Link to what you ordered please
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link is dead 404 maybe just too cheap. $3.82 each, lucky i got a few.
anyway $10 for the thinner better ones isnt too bad, here's the search link:
www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?Search...9&initiative_id=SB_20160316041032&needQuery=y
if this cheap one can carry the current then im sure the brand name ones can too.
i have sent msg to seller about why his not selling anymore, when i bought them i could select 10+ units, but it was actually more costly, so i bought one by one
the magnet is actually too strong as my tablet usb port is a little larger so the connector comes out with the cable, a little glue will fix it though.
where as the s7 edge port is tight, needs dental floss to pull out
overall very convenient for sure.
@h3ck $10 to much for ya?
heres another $4 one, looks thinner too... http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Magn...Charger-Charging-Cable-White/32624008438.html
That looks pretty terrible imo, but for the price, I can see why.
I'm still waiting for Znaps to come out:
http://www.znaps.net/collections/micro-usb-version
yeah its no god for a $1k phone but is perfect for my tablet.
i ordered the thin looking one so will see how that turns out.
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32607321932.html
This is the same one I'm using, small plug, cable is very soft, good for holding your phone while charging, so the cable won't snap off easily.
Btw i tried with QC2.0 charger can get 9v 1.5-1.6a
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Are these connections such that direction doesn't matter? In other words, can you rotate the cable 180 degrees and it still connects and charges properly?
@meyerweb yes kinda like reversible usb-c but with needing to plug in, doesnt matter what angle, it will snap in the correctly - the whole point is the total ease of use.
tianmi said:
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32607321932.html
This is the same one I'm using, small plug, cable is very soft, good for holding your phone while charging, so the cable won't snap off easily.
Btw i tried with QC2.0 charger can get 9v 1.5-1.6a
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@tianmi i saw that one but it seems to have that extra white bit sticking out where as the new one i ordered doesnt. with such ease of use it probably doesnt matter anyways
I see some others brand sell on Amazon
I see some others brand sell on Amazon, and the price is not so cheaper,but sell good.
sonhy said:
@meyerweb yes kinda like reversible usb-c but with needing to plug in, doesnt matter what angle, it will snap in the correctly - the whole point is the total ease of use.
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Cool. Thank you. At home I generally just plop the phone down on a wireless puck, but this would be great for the car.
I saw this on ebay and bought it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252293477025?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Got it and it's complete crap. The portion that goes into your device will not stay in the device. So the magnet is strong enough to pull it right out. Spent $4 on it and I don't think it's even worth that. I contacted the seller, we'll see what happens. Buyer beware!
I just ordered this one for $3.98. I hope the quality doesn't suck.
The other ones looked like they are too wide at 17mm width to be used inside a case.
SWEETLF one on Amazon is about the best you'll find. I've been using it for months now.
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