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Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
Biges said:
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
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Thats a known problem with stock ICS
If you flash a custom rom, generally they are faster
for example I had Ice Cold for a few months, rock solid and super fast
I bought my incredible more than one year ago and I've never thought to unlock and go with custom rom until i got the last OTA. I was so disappointed i flashed Nik's project x almost the same day. You should really consider trying a custom rom. If you like stock appearance you could try android revolution HD i bet it will perform way better than stock ics
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Thanks for your confirmations!
I'll try a custom ROM then.
As for the appearance I use a custom homepage anyway.
After using CM7 for a while, which was great, I upgraded to IceCold 8.1.1. I found it slow and laggy. Then I updated to Official Stock ICS. Same. I updated the radio to the '11' version. Still the same. Now I am using Ice Cold 8.3. Still the same. I did full wipe, and restored apps with Titanium.
I am very frustrated. I want ICS, but I am thinking of going back to CM7.2. I should be happy with IceCold, but I'm not. Slow, laggy, and lots of 'not responding' messages. Facebook app is the worst - almost unusable.
Any ideas anyone? I have:
IceColdSandwich 8.3 Rossi
4EXT Recovery
Blackrose 2.02 S-OFF
Ice cold is not laggy for me at all
How long have you let the ROM settle before deeming it laggy?
What clock speed for CPU? And maybe try go to recovery and clear both cache an dalvik cache, and make sure to do that after every rom flash if you don't already
Just that most of us are having a smooth nearly flawless ICS experience, hard to think only you are having problems
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Guys try cool droid ROM, its the best and fastest Rom....
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@jcr67: It's funny how mine is the other way round. I mean I didn't use the stock ROM (or whatever it is called) and installed CM 7.2 as soon as I got my phone because I didn't like the stock UI at all and I had seen CM 7.2 running on DHD with my cousin so I was kinda impressed. I kept using it until I visited my cousin and comparing both the phones (play store, I had a topic on that) was just awful. My play store searching, loading, agreement would take ages. I had been trying lots of ROMs until I came across Ice cream sandwich ROMs and the speeds were great (Virtuous Vivo) but it was the stock UI again which got me bored. I, yesterday, came across a topic by Nathan about Incredible S ROMs and battery life and after reading each and every post, I knew IceColdSandwich is my next ROM or I am selling this ****. Then and now, this is the best ROM I tried till now. No lag, great UI (after theme installation that was in the topic itself, it's become even greater). The only problem I am having is with my battery life. I had this on other ROMs too. So all I can say is that I am more than just satisfied with this ROM.
Try reinstalling the ROM by after running the SuperWipe script (inside the Android Revolution HD ROM topic.)
Sorry for the long post.
Biges said:
Hi!
I recently updated my IS to the newest Android 4 and god, it's slow. There is lag everywhere, I click on a icon and it takes like a second for screen to appear. The previous version was much smoother.
I disabled the animations and it seems to helped a bit, is there anything else I can do? Or just revert to the older version?
Anybody else experiencing the same problem?
Thanks
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i have the same problem ..
could any one help how to return to official old Android ROM before 4.0. version ?
Update - It is getting better!
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Ignore my earlier comments, re IceCold.
I always clear dalvik, wipe etc, when installing. But I repeated this anyway, just to make sure. I let it settle down. It got better. And better. And now I have V6 supercharged it.
It's pretty great now.
Except for the battery life. I'm getting not much more than half a day, without doing much.
Usually I ensure that the following are disabled unless I really want them:
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- GPS
- Vibration (keyboard)
- keyboard tones
- USB debugging
Optional: Automatic brightness turned off and set brightness to comfortable level
If you are overclocking it try to use it at usual clock speed. Overclocking consumes more battery.
jcr67 said:
Except for the battery life. I'm getting not much more than half a day, without doing much.
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I started to use custom ROM after upgrade to ICS. Laggy, even.the apps & notification drawer also laggy.
for me the latest ota ics upgrade is quite good, just sometimes i can feel that things just dun get smooth enough, made my mind and tried few custom roms. Most of them are just really gud in term of performances and looks. Now im gud to go with ice cold rom, much better than official rom of course, and on the battery issue, just make sure u turn off anything u dun need when u dun need them
I find ARHD 3.0.1 with V6 Supercharger script properly installed (no KickAssKernelizer cos I want to wait for a custom kernel) and ultrasmooth rosie.apk to be a fairly smooth running experience.
Tip:
I've improved battery life and reduced common running temperature and hence increased performance/stability/speed by simply running GSM only instead of GSM/HSPA unless I'm in a good signal zone and want to browse data quickly. (I'm talking 2G/3G switching in the mobile network settings.. may not be labelled gsm/hspa in some ROMs). This is a good bet, especially when indoors. I live in a basement so signal drops are more steep for the higher frequency 3G signal.
This should be true for any ROM. Anywhere your data browsing is slow to heart-rendingly unusable.. should definitely save battery, reduce temp, and improve text and call reception to switch to GSM only!
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OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
Biges said:
OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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There's a thread about this guy enjoying ics as it speeds up the 3d performance.
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Biges said:
OK, I have a simple question: Is any ICS custom ROM as fast as the Gingerbread stock ROM? OR do I need to find a way do downgrade to Gingerbread? Which will be a pain in the bottom parts...
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I find project X to be really quick and doesn't seem to struggle with multiple apps running I.e spotify, Facebook and chrome.
Easy to flash too!
We Want ICS
For 'We Want CS' I still can see lag when open apps drawer & pull down notification. Anyway, its still better than OTA update.
markj338 said:
Thats a known problem with stock ICS
If you flash a custom rom, generally they are faster
for example I had Ice Cold for a few months, rock solid and super fast
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Dear markj338,
i'm new to this, i had same experience with the OTA ICS too, so bad.....
Can u guide me how to s-off , upgrade to icecoldsandwich 8.3.3 ?
Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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I prefer cm10linero optimized odex version with blood kernel and feel it is silky smooth. There is so many ROMs out that it is a candy store with something for every taste. 4.1.2 version is standards now with 4.2 in works. Bang for bucks this cell has been very good and beyond reliable to me.
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md1008 said:
Thinking of selling my gs3 to get some bills handled and was impressed at how cheap this phone was and the development for it. I had this phone a year ago before there was even ICS for it. I understand its not going to perform like my gs3 but bow buttery smooth is.
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take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
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md1008 said:
Is there any one working on touch wiz 5.0 for ICS/jellybean? Touch wiz on gingerbread sucks but since ICS+ wiz has really become nice practical minus the stupid zoom in and out by swyiping the side...really Samsung?
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
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Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
ReckYoChips said:
Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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smartguy044 said:
take it from someone who also came from the s3...this phone isnt to bad considering what it is....obviously the camera isnt as good the screen size sucks ass but with cm,pa,aokp etc and an oc kernel its tolerable
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Pretty much what I was going to say right to the last word (except I haven't owned an S3).
I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
Bloodflame said:
I should also throw in the fact that we have very little RAM, and it makes multitasking a pain in the ass at times, especially on ICS and JB. Or impossible at times, rather... A few small apps are usually fine, but that's about the limit. I've played with the minfree's to no end, adjusted the low-memory killer over and over to find a sweet spot, but I don't think one even exists here.
Basically what it comes down to is: If you want multitasking, expect lag/freezes. If you want performance, expect your apps to start over every time you switch back. Also expect to keep a task killer on deck at all times.
I'm currently running SmoothieJB with Tim1928's kernel and it's been a fantastic combo. Fast, stable, (relatively) decent multitasking and great battery life. It's one of the best experiences I've had on this phone, so much that I almost don't want to touch anything else in fear of losing what I've got... But deep inside, I'm a flashaholic. I will succumb to my temptations sooner or later. :laugh:
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Lol yeah if I do sell my gs3 I am sure I will miss the 2gb of ram. I am stalking eBay for a damn good deal
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
Just scored a new one from some guy in Hong Kong on Ebay...its was as described for $117 with fee shipping. Just took 2 Weeks to get here...love auction sniper.
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ReckYoChips said:
Your solution Is The REMICS JB rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056634
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Can i flash this directly from stock gb?
THANK YOU!
No
1st get root
Get twrp or cwm installed
Rom wipe cwm or cache/dalvik cache/system wipe twrp
Now flash
Always make backup prior to above
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I've heard that CM10 can have trouble with 3rd party camera aps, such as bank check deposit etc. Anyone found that? If so what is the best option for that? I haven't flashed to JB yet mainly because I don't want to lose that checking account option.
That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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afwolfpacked said:
That has been brought up many times in past. My beat suggestion for a work around though may seem excessive would be to make a nandroid of a full functioning cm9 and use it for checking and use the cm10 or 10.1 as your daily. I know it isn't the answer liked but it will suffice.
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Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
Caryllb said:
Ok, so I have a dumb question. How easy is it to switch back and forth between CM10 and CM9? Would this mean flashing the ROM all the time? Since I've never done any ROM flash, being a total noob, I haven't experienced one flash much less trying to switch back and forth all the time.
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Well if you had a nandroid of both, you could just restore either whenever you wanted to, provided that you make a nandroid every time you change something.
Hmmmm. Cumbersome just to have check deposit. I'll have to think on this for a while. I suppose it takes a few minutes each time: make nandroid in CM 10, flash CM 9, deposit check, flash CM 10 and do this for each check. I don't do checks very often so it may still be worthwhile.
Do you happen to know if this is an issue being addressed and just might be fixed for, say, a CM11 release?
I just got my HTC one three days ago. Came from sensation which was good for me thanks to all the devs, roms and kernels available.
Now, this phone is a monster as it is. Is it really worth rooting and flashing roms? Stock seems to be pretty stable, and again this beast flies nonetheless.
Any input is appreciated.
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Stock is really good now, unless you want to play really demanding games like NFSMW or Modern Combat 4 etc etc. HTC has set the CPU AND GPU to throttle at 40c which is ridiculously low. So if you hit these temps regularly, games would suddenly start stuttering and lagging till it goes below 40c. With a custom kernel you can tweak this, so personally that's the biggest advantage I have of going that route
Haha this is XDA man... Of course everyone is gonna say its worth it.
Personally I thought the same, stock sense is stable, smooth, and fast.
However I'm a bit of a flashaholic so I got bored within a couple weeks. And development is starting to get very very interesting. There's a ton of fantastic devs and nearly every major aosp ROM has popped up. Most of them are very stable and are getting better and better.
Its really up to you but my vote is to hold out a while, maybe until official 4.2.2 and if you get bored like I did, flash away!
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Stock is very fast. I like being rooted however so I just flash ARHD when I want to have the stock look n feel
AOSP development is great, not quite DD for me yet but it's really close
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I'd stay stock. I have to admit I rooted mine and have regretted it ever since. Just doesn't feel the same even when I return to stock. The only thing good on custom roms is the settings toggles at the top of the notification bar, and it doesn't look like 4.2.2 Roms are going to have it anymore barring trickdroid.
Custom kernels introduce new issues like touch buttons not working properly and bugs and instability.
My phone was the most stable, fast and bug free when it was stock and I enjoyed it more when it was stock too. Can't go more than a day now without flashing something else to try and iron out each bug that comes up.
My vote is stay stock and enjoy your phone before it's too late.
As for cm and aosp, I can't see how they will survive much longer as stock Google loses a LOT of functionality and has awful stock apps including an awful camera app. Phones have moved past them now in my opinion and I can't see how they'll survive much longer unless they start getting access to the proper camera apps that come built into the phones.
not worth
In my opinion its not worth to root this phone. This is actually my first Android phone without root.
The stock ROM is smooth and great except enoying gallery app with Facebook photos but I can easly switch to another app without rooting.
I managed to run unrooted for three days, then I unlocked the bootloader, flashed a few roms (currently on InsertCoin and loving it) and just yesterday I S-OFF'd. Worth it.
If you don't use apps which need SU (AdFree, TitaniumBackup, RootExplorer,...) and you are happy with the stock ROM, it wouldn't be worth it.
PS: Still waiting for my black HTC One and I'm quite sure that rooting it is the first thing I do. (after charging and shortly exploring the phone)
I wasn't happy with stock at all, too stuttery and even basic games were very lagy (came from i9300 sgs3), rooted/flashed cm10.1 within a day of owning my one and haven't had ANY issues at all s-off'd using root explorer and terminal emulator just then in under a minute. Love being free and smooth lol
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Dont root it
wildcontigo said:
I just got my HTC one three days ago. Came from sensation which was good for me thanks to all the devs, roms and kernels available.
Now, this phone is a monster as it is. Is it really worth rooting and flashing roms? Stock seems to be pretty stable, and again this beast flies nonetheless.
Any input is appreciated.
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I think right now it's not worth it the phone is very fast and you will not need root especially if you have another rooted device.
I had the same question before.
DEVICES THAT I OWN : NEXUS 7 [ROOTED][STOCK ROM 4.2.2][MOTLEY KERNELC TO 1.6 GHZ]
XPERIA Z C6602 [NOT ROOTED]
fish droid said:
I think right now it's not worth it the phone is very fast and you will not need root especially if you have another rooted device.
I had the same question before.
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You can never have too many rooted devices, period.
Thanks for all the opinions. For the first time with android phones (and it's been few) I think I'm going to refrain from rooting for a while at least
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wildcontigo said:
Thanks for all the opinions. For the first time with android phones (and it's been few) I think I'm going to refrain from rooting for a while at least
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I would recommend getting s-off, unlocked and then flash Mikes stock odexed rooted ROM. You will have all the abilities of root (like backups and ad blockers) and then the speed and stability of stock
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Well I'm fed up with this Jelly bean garbage! For you that say certain ones (Liquid smooth seems common) are 'fast', you're only kidding yourself.
JB on the bionic is terrible. It lags and is buggy (on after market's at least). I give props to the developers who have spent time making it usable for the most part.
I'm going back to ICS roms.
I had the same problem for a while. It wasn't until after I flashed Blurry JB after the third time did it work lag free. I had no idea what was going on but I just followed the advice of the developers and deleted the slot 1, wiped everything and reinstalled it.
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You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
I thought you can't go back to ics once you have jb. No?
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Groid said:
You seem to think all bionic users share your experience. Not true. My bionic running JB stock rom & kernel, rooted gives great performance and a better user experience than ICS. Mine is fast and stable with no lag. Your blanket criticisms miss the mark for most.
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Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
LucasMN said:
Have you even looked at the threads in the development section? It's pretty clear the lag issue is common and I am not alone. There are always a few exceptions to a blanket statement, thanks for pointing it out though.
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I certainly agree that some percentage of users experience lag or other problems and I don't doubt that you are one of them. Not sure what that percentage is though. I did an FDR after the JB update and clear cache once in a while. I sync manually and turned off Google Now, but use Voice Search extensively. Various settings, sync options, location services and some apps can cause problems that have little to do with the rom.
Mr. HQ said:
No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I'll try and update it to JB then I suppose. Thanks for the tip.
I get 2-10 second lags when doing a lot of tasks.
I have been reluctant to go from my extremely functional ICS based bionic running Icarus HD Remix to JB. I have not seen any post that convinces me to make the jump.
I have JB on my tablet, my wife has it on her Samsung S3, and my phone as it is kicks butt.
Why should I upgrade from stable to JB??
Thanks anyone with constructive responses.
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No problems here.
If you're still running ICS as stock with JB in a safestrap slot, that's your problem
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I deleted all my partitions (slots), uninstalled safestrap, did a Full data reset/cache wipe. Downloaded and installed JB stock (OTA). Then installed safestrap and Liquid Smooth and it is still super laggy.
It'll be fine for a few swipes/screens then all of the sudden you go to open an app or go to the homescreen and it takes forever (5+ seconds). I've also had it reboot once randomly tonight as well as freeze with nothing on the screen but the 4 lights on the bottom lit up.
I dunno what else to do. Maybe it's time to start looking at new phone.
Well good news. One of the guys at work broke his phone last night and wants to upgrade to an S4. Since we have insurance on it, all I have to do is pay $100 and I get brand new S3...should be in tomorrow. :good:
I reformatted my phone twice, and i got heavy lag after a long while. Something was definitely up with JB. GB was fine, ICS got a bit worse, JB is just completely unusable with lag.
A emergency phone call will lag for 60 seconds (absolutely unacceptable), as well as sending messages. Keyboard pops up after 10 seconds, typing a simple sentence takes over a minute, and sending just barely responds. Although chrome is known to be pretty slow compared to browsers, it was also completely unusable for 90 seconds of lag from opening the app to retrieving search results.
I killed off a lot of apps, as well as clear out images/messages, and other cache/data things. But still, it crawled like a slug.
I gave up yesterday, and just installed CM10.1 . Already, I feel relieved that I don't feel restricted by anything. Bionic is in the RC stage for cm10.1. It does all of the necessary things flawlessly so far. I suggest everyone hwo's having slowdown issues with this stock bloatware to move over to CM or some custom rom. Keep FAR FAR away from it.
For now, i feel like I have a completely new phone since GB, and it is keeping up with the responsiveness of my Nexus 7.
But, if you are very inclined on staying on stock: I'm not sure what will help you speed it up again, other than completely wiping it again and reformatting.
Mine was still laggy even on aftermarket roms (JB).
I have it listed on craigslist now since I'm rocking an S3 since last Friday.
No lag on this bad boy.:victory:
I've been using FlyingJelly and it's great! My wife is stock JB and she has no complaints either.
Lag caused by the Overclocking?
In another thread, someone suggested that the lag many bionic users experienced could be fixed by clocking the CPU back down from 1.2 to 1 GHz. I tried this using the CPU Control under ROM Toolbox and I have found this worked for my phone, although I haven't found a way to make it permanent (it seems to change back to the 1.2 GHz setting, most of the time when trying to download something over a bad wifi or 4G connection). But it has helped with the frustration to know that when it lags, I will find the setting just needs to be changed back.
I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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I am on ICS, running Icarus remixed or whatever it is called, and everything works.
My phone is tweaked and customized and runs great.
I have not seen any posts that answer my prior question: what is the benefit of switching to Jellybean when my phone works great right now?
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There isn't unless you want there to be one; as has been beaten to death on this forum, any updates are completely 100% personal preferences. If you're happy with what you have, then more power to ya!
thanks. I've always been on the edge with this phone, loading leaked upgrades, roms, etc. but now that it works nicely, I'm sticking with ICS & Icarus remixed. overclocked...
I wish I could go back to ICS. JB hasn't been able to keep my underclock at 600 and keeps resetting it back to 300.
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I've been flashing roms for almost 4 years now on almost a dozen phones. My go-to rom has always been CM, and for a while I was flashing all the nightlies for this phone and setting everything up from scratch every few days.
But a few weeks ago, something dawned on me: after untold hundreds of rom flashes, I think I'm actually tired of doing this. With all the unresolved data issues on AOSP roms and various other minor problems, I suddenly couldn't bring myself to modify my phone in a way that would actually remove functionality. I've now been on stock rooted MF9 for going on a month, and other than the inevitable 4.3 update, I don't think I'll be flashing any more roms on this or any other phone.
I've been a die-hard rom flasher for almost as long as I've been using Android devices and I certainly didn't see this coming. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Yeah ive been wondering if the data (signal) issues will ever be resolved.
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Yep same here ive flashed thousands of times. About a year ago on my s2 I had aosp . Well we got lost the kids were screaming gps didnt work and data speeds were awful. I flashed back to stock or stock based and everything was great. At that point I realized stick with stock. I will say that the touch wiz based roms here are wonderful. I feel you on fatigue. I've been on sacs rom for a long time and don't plan on changing it.
I'm with you. I got sick o of flashing roms all the time too. Been running stock for a about a month now.
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I feel the same only have flashed a couple Roms and am also just sick of always setting up new Roms. Just find one and stick with it I am on sacs. Was on Slim Bean but sacs is amazing and its TW based so don't have to worry about all the bugs that Aosp brings. But I gotta say Slim Bean was solid. Stable build 1 everything was working data ,GPS ,mms I had no problems. I remember just flashing every single ROM that was available back in my OG Evovdays.
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LoL. Feel almost the same here....
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Well I've been on stock Deodexed for getting close to a month, before that I flashed all the roms, my wife said I had a problem lol, but for the time being I'm quite happy with my phone being fully functional and having 4g every where I go. I'm still always looking at xda for the next big thing, but as of now I'm staying slightly modded with the convenience of a working PHONE :beer:
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Well I've been on stock Deodexed for getting close to a month, before that I flashed all the roms, my wife said I had a problem lol, but for the time being I'm quite happy with my phone being fully functional and having 4g every where I go. I'm still always looking at xda for the next big thing, but as of now I'm staying slightly modded with the convenience of a working PHONE :beer:
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That's kind of how I am. I still compulsively check XDA every day even though I never flash anything anymore. It's just really nice to have a phone where everything works. MMS is a good example of something that I don't necessarily use all the time but it's nice for it to be functional when I need it. I suppose I'll probably give KitKat a spin when the roms start rolling out though
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Same here, I know there are some awesome developers. But I really need stability. I look for the slimest close to stock ROM I can find.
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This is so funny. I must have tried 50 ROMs on my various phones in the past few years. So many have claimed “visious battery ilfe! Screaming speeds!!!! This will make you cry with tears of joy!”
And then they run about as fast as stock, often with worse battery life, and with broken functionality.
There were some exceptions, like MeanBean on the Evo LTE, and a few others which ran pretty much flawlessly, but switching back to stock always makes me think, “wow, this is not any worse than that custom ROM I just had – a little uglier, but stock runs better…”
(Of course I always appreciate the hard work, and it is fun experimenting.)
Stock runs great on the gs4. Over the last 4 days I've averaged 15.5 hours on time with 3.5 hours screen time. About 70% on WiFi and 30% 3G
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This is so funny. I must have tried 50 ROMs on my various phones in the past few years. So many have claimed “visious battery ilfe! Screaming speeds!!!! This will make you cry with tears of joy!”
And then they run about as fast as stock, often with worse battery life, and with broken functionality.
There were some exceptions, like MeanBean on the Evo LTE, and a few others which ran pretty much flawlessly, but switching back to stock always makes me think, “wow, this is not any worse than that custom ROM I just had – a little uglier, but stock runs better…”
(Of course I always appreciate the hard work, and it is fun experimenting.)
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I've also never experienced the outlandish speed and battery claims of so many of these roms, including Mean Bean which I never found to work as flawlessly as advertised. Honestly, I think a lot of it is just placebo effect.
I mean no disrespect to the hard-working devs, of course - I guess my personal preferences are just changing. I'm not interested in spending tons of time messing with voltages and clock speeds and themes and kernels and APNs, etc. anymore.
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Well a mean if you look at it from a different perspective "back in the day" yeah, what these devs claimed to be true, greater battery life, faster speeds, etc you did get and there was real improvement. Still we gotta understand back then stock android and phone makers weren't up to par and the phones weren't as powerful. Android was lacking in a lot of stuff and that's were modding grew.
But I don't need to give a history lesson, anyone who's been here for a while know why and how this all came about.
My point is though that android has caught up to the need for modding. Generally speaking (barring a persons provider) you get everything and in some cases more than you need without the need to mod.
Also some of the mods are also now available without being rooted, although not at a fast pace, but still on the rise.
I personally wouldn't coin it exactly as being "tied of flashing" but more so as some of you have mentioned the need is no longer there.
You can debloat your phone without root (I forgot the app/method), you get great battery life worth stock and of you even want to go further you have apps like greenify and my personal fav juice defender that can be used without root and so many other things.
There's other factors too that does make a difference like update cycle and harder issues and more phones etc that also leads people to the point of just sticking to stock but there are the petiole here that just like to tinker no matter what skill level you're at.
One last thing I would put out there is that us who are users of these mods wouldn't it be different if you were the ones creating them?
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Same here, im running stock odexed rooted.. Just deleted sone bloatware I never use. Used foldermount to save some space so I can install big games I like..Ive been happy stock odexed. I FIND NOVA LAUNCHER THE BEST.. SO SMOOTH AND U CAN ADJUST THE ANIMATION SPEED AND TRANSITION...
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fabzbear said:
Well a mean if you look at it from a different perspective "back in the day" yeah, what these devs claimed to be true, greater battery life, faster speeds, etc you did get and there was real improvement. Still we gotta understand back then stock android and phone makers weren't up to par and the phones weren't as powerful. Android was lacking in a lot of stuff and that's were modding grew.
But I don't need to give a history lesson, anyone who's been here for a while know why and how this all came about.
My point is though that android has caught up to the need for modding. Generally speaking (barring a persons provider) you get everything and in some cases more than you need without the need to mod.
Also some of the mods are also now available without being rooted, although not at a fast pace, but still on the rise.
I personally wouldn't coin it exactly as being "tied of flashing" but more so as some of you have mentioned the need is no longer there.
You can debloat your phone without root (I forgot the app/method), you get great battery life worth stock and of you even want to go further you have apps like greenify and my personal fav juice defender that can be used without root and so many other things.
There's other factors too that does make a difference like update cycle and harder issues and more phones etc that also leads people to the point of just sticking to stock but there are the petiole here that just like to tinker no matter what skill level you're at.
One last thing I would put out there is that us who are users of these mods wouldn't it be different if you were the ones creating them?
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And you can theme the icons...
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Stock rooted and slighty OCed is my way....i juat got this phone about a week ago. Im coming from the s3...but anyways, i was scrolling looking qt alk the roms, is there one thats pure stock but rooted and 100% debloated??? I used to use a root uninstaller, but none seem to work on this device?? Im kinda late to the s4 so im sure its been discussed and fixed.. but anyways.. also looks like stock kernal is the smoothest and fastest too.... and with my s3 that wasent the case... but anyways...is there a nice stock debloated FLAWLESS rom u guys recomend? At the moment im using this INTRISIC rom....pretty good...about as close as im going to get to stock debloated..
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First and foremost the phone should perform basic phone functions flawlessly without significant lag such as making a phone call, sending text messages and web surfing. Could add GPS mapping to that list as it seems germane and pervasive.
Part of ROM fatigue is just the lack of this or perhaps the eternal search for it. Perhaps kit kat changes this.
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First and foremost the phone should perform basic phone functions flawlessly without significant lag such as making a phone call, sending text messages and web surfing. Could add GPS mapping to that list as it seems germane and pervasive.
Part of ROM fatigue is just the lack of this or perhaps the eternal search for it. Perhaps kit kat changes this.
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My personal opinion is that any notion of "lag" in Android ceased to be a relevant discussion at least a year ago. Yes, you might still get the odd animation stutter here and there, but it's nothing that affects the actual usability of the phone.
As far as overclocking goes, 4 CPU cores at 1.9GHz seems pretty sufficient to me, but I understand that there will always be those who like to push their phones. I just feel like the difference is only noticeable in benchmark scores.
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testinguser said:
First and foremost the phone should perform basic phone functions flawlessly without significant lag such as making a phone call, sending text messages and web surfing. Could add GPS mapping to that list as it seems germane and pervasive.
Part of ROM fatigue is just the lack of this or perhaps the eternal search for it. Perhaps kit kat changes this.
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I sort this as well as my previous view. The current versions of android has caught up to everything modding was mainly used for. There isn't lag anymore, you get great battery, you also have a couple theme customization as well too. The point is there's a slow in the upward trend to mod.
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At the risk of annoying much of the community, CM= overrated. Had every galaxy s series phone and have yet to see it fully functional. They start working on the next version before the previous one is done and honestly, I'll have a new phone before it's finished every time.
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Soooo true
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