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4.2 Being Pushed To AOSP NOW

Hi Guys
Found this: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
Nexus Factory Images (Nexus 4 image is on there): https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Nexus 4 is not supported by AOSP.
"If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem, and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4)." - JBQ
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He also confirmed on Google+.

Imperticus said:
Nexus 4 is not supported by AOSP.
He also confirmed on Google+.
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Not being a developer, I'm not really sure of the implications of this. What are the implications?

raze599 said:
Not being a developer, I'm not really sure of the implications of this. What are the implications?
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Meaning the sources for N4 will not be provided by Google, like they did/do with all other Nexus devices. You won't be able to just download the Android sources and build a ROM like you were able to with other nexus devices.

Imperticus said:
Meaning the sources for N4 will not be provided by Google, like they did/do with all other Nexus devices. You won't be able to just download the Android sources and build a ROM like you were able to with other nexus devices.
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Can you give us a link? I just ordered a Nexus 4 and this is awful news.
The Groups link doesn't use clear language and doesn't rule out future release..

this shouldn't be in the dev section
Sent from my Nexus 4

mark manning said:
this shouldn't be in the dev section
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Im sorry if its in the wrong section but I understood the sticky to say that stock rom's are allowed in the dev section. Please close/move if necessary.

JBQ's post here - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
It clearly says "There is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4"
On google+ I asked him: "Does that mean Nexus 4 not supported by AOSP?"
JBQ: Correct.
Me: But any plans to include N4 in AOSP later on?
JBQ: I can't comment about the future, sorry.

Imperticus said:
JBQ's post here - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
It clearly says "There is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4"
On google+ I asked him: "Does that mean Nexus 4 not supported by AOSP?"
JBQ: Correct.
Me: But any plans to include N4 in AOSP later on?
JBQ: I can't comment about the future, sorry.
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wtf is this nonsense!!!
it's a Nexus device just like the Nexus 7, 10, Galaxy Nexus, etc...y shouldn't it have AOSP?! :crying:
if this were true, then T-Mobile should have went ahead and added wifi calling to their version.

Imperticus said:
JBQ's post here - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
It clearly says "There is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4"
On google+ I asked him: "Does that mean Nexus 4 not supported by AOSP?"
JBQ: Correct.
Me: But any plans to include N4 in AOSP later on?
JBQ: I can't comment about the future, sorry.
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Oh well at least the factory image is up there. Hope it gets supported by AOSP in the future though.

Let the games begin

No support for AOSP=*%$$#%

"I can't comment on the future of Nexus 4 in AOSP, sorry. -jbq"
huh?? wtfbbq
I just spent rent money on 2 n4's that I stayed up all night trying to buy I WILL have satisfaction

You really can not wait, can you? I am pretty sure the nexus 4 will hit aosp soon, the answer jb gave is a standard answer from him..

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torxx said:
You really can not wait, can you? I am pretty sure the nexus 4 will hit aosp soon, the answer jb gave is a standard answer from him..
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It's just really stupid from Google to say something like "I can't comment about the future."
There is a reason for it and I think it's quite logical to tell it. It wasn't a problem to tell why the N7 3G can't get AOSP support so why should it be a problem with the N4.

Nebucatnetzer said:
It's just really stupid from Google to say something like "I can't comment about the future."
There is a reason for it and I think it's quite logical to tell it. It wasn't a problem to tell why the N7 3G can't get AOSP support so why should it be a problem with the N4.
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that is what worries me
anyhow 4.2 is live and I'm pulling it down now
*nearly done with my first build for iconia a500
*built flashed and booting woot

The factory image is for all country ?

Nexus 4 not in AOSP

JBQ - " there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4"
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
dafuq???
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That really sucks!

Yeah that does suck. Looks like I'm skipping this device.

Ya. Pretty much...
Too bad I already ordered it -.-
Oh well... he also said that he cannot comment on it being included in the future. I'm hoping by the time people start receiving them it will be added
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Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?

You guys are interpreting that wrong.
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Audioboxer said:
Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
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its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:

yahyoh said:
its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
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FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...

The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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Audioboxer said:
FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
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hehe , calm down cuz u will have vanilla android working out of the box ( so cm or aokp will work too i think )

Just means they haven't released source for it yet, nothing more significant than that. Sometimes stuff isn't finished enough for release, or they have licensing issues with a driver or two. Google *always* eventually release though.

mark manning said:
The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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-If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem,
and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4).
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! is it really not aosp....??
i sold my galaxy s3 and my brother kept an order for 16 gb nexus over there in us for me....
i fu**ked up....

... confused : how open sourced are other Nexus devices?

I think some of you are overreacting. It's not in AOSP, YET.

From the man himself
To clarify: Nexus 4 is not supported in AOSP at the moment: no source
files, no binaries.
JBQ
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o_tiger said:
... confused : how open sourced where other Nexus devices?
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Well, you can download AOSP, type a few commands and have something that boots a nexus device fairly quickly. I haven't looked too hard at it but assume there are some binary drivers that get thrown in there.
Google haven't release the build system for the N4 yet - OTOH you could probably hack one together yourself (none of the hardware on the N4 is new to android so presumably the drivers are out there somewhere).
All nexus devices are trivial to update via fastboot, and have builtin unlocks, and the N4 doesn't change that.

Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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My guess is that they cant open source a lot of the qualcomm stuff for the modem and the SOC. The TI OMAP is a very open SOC, but they are basically the only ones in the business that do that so if someone want to tinker with GPU, SOC or modem drivers the nexus 4 will not be as open as the galaxy nexus.

jameslfc5 said:
Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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What the hell are you talking about? It still runs stock android...

GS4 Google Edition

I doubt this is true, but if it is man I can't wait to get our hands on the firmware.
Samsung GS4 Google Edition (I/O Rumor)
Updated I/O Rumors
App Syncing
Google Streaming Music Service

Yea, that would be pretty sweet. Looking very forward to the exciting news that'll surely come out.
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The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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GiantJay said:
The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going

shabbypenguin said:
if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going
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That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.

samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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couldn't you just flash an aosp rom? no bloat.

samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.

It is true,

Just confirmed at Google I/O to sell starting on June 26th in the US for $649.99. All the same specs including 16GB of on board storage. Also throwing in an unlocked bootloader.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/15/go...axy-s4-with-stock-android-for-649-on-june-26/
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I'll love Samsung forever if they give us an official way to get stock Android on all Galaxy s4s
Hear that Samsung. I'll love you forever
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Power to those who want it, but if I wanted pure Google, I'd just get the Nexus 4 or wait for the Nexus 5 to come out around Xmas. The one reason why I love this S4 is for the option of running TW or AOSP. Add a most likely MIUI option down the road and I'm set.
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.

mjs2011 said:
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.
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#firstworldproblems

Fuzzy Wuzzy said:
#firstworldproblems
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Well, my Nexus 7 has also violated my human rights a couple of times (specifically waterboarding), but I didn't think it was worth mentioning in this thread.

Can't wait till this gets ported to other GS4s on different carriers...

Cnet and SlashGear, among others, are saying this is the same version currently out for Tmobile. That's excellent news as the i9505, all its variants - and quite possibly the d2 (i9305) series - are going to get some serious love from Google as a result.
We already have CM radio working for us. The rest should be fairly common between us and Tmobile, meaning that we should see this over on our side in short order.
Guess I have a new project after all....

shabbypenguin said:
no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.
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can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g

samdsox said:
can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g
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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...

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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...
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well iguess ill have to wait for teh ext to int sd thing

I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.

asuh said:
I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.
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Devs will be surely bringing a version to Sprint, even if Google doesn't. H/w is still the same.
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Safestrap! Could we keep it alive?

Hello everyone,
As you all know, Hashcode has stopped supporting safestrap (as he mentioned in his last post in the safestrap thread. Good luck to him on his new career and many many thanks for the amazing safestrap). Now it's time for our existing developers to chime in and get the lead and keep the project running for us (at least the AT&T note 3 community. If they can go further, that's even better). I'm asking all of my friends/brothers here on the note 3 community that have the skills for it to jump in and mess with safestrap and see what they can do. I know for sure that we have a very good number of very smart devs here who can definitely make something happen.
Thank you in advance!

K-Alzwayed said:
Hello everyone,
As you all know, Hashcode has stopped supporting safestrap (as he mentioned in his last post in the safestrap thread. Good luck to him on his new career and many many thanks for the amazing safestrap). Now it's time for our existing developers to chime in and get the lead and keep the project running for us (at least the AT&T note 3 community. If they can go further, that's even better). I'm asking all of my friends/brothers here on the note 3 community that have the skills for it to jump in and mess with safestrap and see what they can do. I know for sure that we have a very good number of very smart devs here who can definitely make something happen.
Thank you in advance!
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Questions! Could we keep them in the correct forum?
Lol. Note 4 is coming out. Safestrap would be wanted more over there as it will arrive completely stock and locked down. SS for Note 3 seems to be working perfectly fine the way it is. However, I don't use it much anymore.

Delakit said:
Questions! Could we keep them in the correct forum?
Lol. Note 4 is coming out. Safestrap would be wanted more over there as it will arrive completely stock and locked down. SS for Note 3 seems to be working perfectly fine the way it is. However, I don't use it much anymore.
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Well, that's true, but we are also gonna be getting more updates. We are not going to just stay on 4.4.2 forever, right? Lol

Both of you have great point but it's not who needs it more. We all need it for our devices. I hope we can find someone to pick up the torch.
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The only reason we would need an update is if we were to get Android L, but I'm not holding my breath for that one, specially since the note 4 is supposed to be released with kit kat, and then it will probably update to L. It would be awesome if we would get the android update!
RoloRacer on DynamiKat Note3

I don't understand how come people don't expect high spec flagship devices to get updates.... We will have it.
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mrkhigh said:
I don't understand how come people don't expect high spec flagship devices to get updates.... We will have it.
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I always wonder the same. Once a new phone comes out, people think their current phone is garbage. Note 3 will still be a flagship kickass phone for at least 4 years from now IMO. Very high specs that can keep up with so many updated to come.

Every phone I've ever had I had the latest os long before it was officially released. I'm not waiting on att for it.

K-Alzwayed said:
Well, that's true, but we are also gonna be getting more updates. We are not going to just stay on 4.4.2 forever, right? Lol
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None that will be affective enough. Who knows, especially with what I've seen in the past, we could very well stay on 4.4.2 forever.
lildoggs said:
Both of you have great point but it's not who needs it more. We all need it for our devices. I hope we can find someone to pick up the torch.
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Nobody really needs it. It's a desire, correct? Regardless, I'm fairly certain that people will be grabbing the Note 4 and checking for any immediate possibilities. Time will tell.

Delakit said:
None that will be affective enough. Who knows, especially with what I've seen in the past, we could very well stay on 4.4.2 forever.
Nobody really needs it. It's a desire, correct? Regardless, I'm fairly certain that people will be grabbing the Note 4 and checking for any immediate possibilities. Time will tell.
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I highly doubt that there will be root for the note 4 right away. It will definitely take a very long time if not never.

K-Alzwayed said:
I highly doubt that there will be root for the note 4 right away. It will definitely take a very long time if not never.
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I can guarantee there won't be root for quite some time. That's why I stated that people will want Safestrap on Note 4, not the Note 3 that already has a fairly stable version. Stable enough, that is. Time will tell.

Why do we guarantee no root. You people make statements without merit
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Gezzz lots of older phones still get updates. I'm still thinking at some point we will see a bootloader hack

No worries. The Alliance Team is gonna try to pick up SS for everyone.

RErick said:
No worries. The Alliance Team is gonna try to pick up SS for everyone.
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Hells to the yes. NOW I feel good. Thank you so much.

RErick said:
No worries. The Alliance Team is gonna try to pick up SS for everyone.
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thanks a lot peopple..... !!!!!

Sprint beats Verizon again by pushing 5.1 updates

Maybe we'll see this in a few weeks...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-51-rolling-out-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-galaxy-s6-edge-sprint

Sprint has always beaten verizon and at&t in updates, Tmobile is first then sprint.

Verizon has to integrate and test their advanced calling features first. So they always take longer than the others, even in the best case.

JasonJoel said:
Verizon has to integrate and test their advanced calling features first. So they always take longer than the others, even in the best case.
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It's not that that takes Verizon so long, it's all the bloatware apps they have to update
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That's another theory, but that doesn't seem right as the nexus 6 took a while and it has almost no new bloat that hadn't already been ported to 5.x.
Which points the finger back to advanced calling features.

There was a small Verizon update today
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ctivation-lock-enable-roaming-in-puerto-rico/
Just wondering if this patched the exploit? I ask because if this did then there is no reason to buy the phone for me now.

T-mobile and sprint have quicker updates, I prefer to have reliable service.
I heard rumors of Verizon allowing unlocked phones on their network. Hopefully, we'll be able to use 4G phone with compatible antenas in the future, this way we won't be dependent on Vzw's updates and crappy apps
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What about 5.1 do you care so much about? Who cares if they got it out first? Verizon still has twice the network.

Doesn't 5.1 patch the memory leak? Even with the latest update after a while of using many apps I feel like the phone slows down at times, and a reboot fixes that.

psufan5 said:
What about 5.1 do you care so much about? Who cares if they got it out first? Verizon still has twice the network.
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From what I heard, memory leak is fixed and it includes some extras features to the camera such as support for raw files and swipe u up or down l the screen to control exposure I think.
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Not worth losing root, possibly permanently!
Have 5.1.1 on TMO S6. Couldn't care less about raw support. That's what the D810 is for!
And the memory management, calling it that, is just as bad.
IMHO, Lollipop is the Windows Vista of Android.
I have a Nexus 6 and while it's better on that phone, I do miss 4.4.4. The Note 4 with 4.4.4 was butter. Providing it was a non VZW one!

So do we know how far off we are from 5.1?

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So do we know how far off we are from 5.1?
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In 4 days at 12:43 pm
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Dri94 said:
In 4 days at 12:43 pm
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LOL

So I'm guessing behind the sarcasm, the answer is that we don't know.

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So I'm guessing behind the sarcasm, the answer is that we don't know.
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The answer is that, no, no one ever knows. Unless a tech leaks information that they got a memo...the best notice you usually can expect from that is a few days.

i would love to live in a world where i can have the best network AND just relatively timely updates but that option is yet to exist.

Just like most ROMS, never ask for an ETA. Jk. I was about to post asking if anyone had heard any rumors of a timeframe, then I saw this thread, so I'm guessing no ones heard anything.
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merlin66676 said:
Just like most ROMS, never ask for an ETA. Jk. I was about to post asking if anyone had heard any rumors of a timeframe, then I saw this thread, so I'm guessing no ones heard anything.
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Correct! VZ never leaks dates or ROMs.

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Correct! VZ never leaks dates or ROMs.
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ooh they leak. i have installed many leaked updates from Verizon and on a few occasions they were difficult to get out of as they changed their mind and did not release it and so the official would not update you from the leaked as it wasnt supposed to be out.