As Google announced android kitkat 4.4 to all nexus devices like nexus 4,7,10
well there in galaxy nexus we came to hear from Google that there wont be kitkat for galaxy nexus and is discontinued for updates
Google says they have the policy of updates till 18 months from release
whereas, galaxy nexus passed that limit
as well they said their policy that they would be releasing kitkat on 512mb ram phones too
but galaxy nexus being having a decent hardware of 1gb ram..
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they discontinued it to update any further officially
so now here's the main question, nexus 4 is already a year old so after 6 months even Nexus 4 would be outdated to have any updates
is this legit by Google?
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sid21 said:
As Google announced android kitkat 4.4 to all nexus devices like nexus 4,7,10
well there in galaxy nexus we came to hear from Google that there wont be kitkat for galaxy nexus and is discontinued for updates
Google says they have the policy of updates till 18 months from release
whereas, galaxy nexus passed that limit
as well they said their policy that they would be releasing kitkat on 512mb ram phones too
but galaxy nexus being having a decent hardware of 1gb ram..
they discontinued it to update any further officially
so now here's the main question, nexus 4 is already a year old so after 6 months even Nexus 4 would be outdated to have any updates
is this legit by Google?
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/google-galaxy-nexus-kitkat/
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they can no longer support the Galaxy Nexus officially because it has a TI processor which is no longer created ad Ti hasnt made processors in a long time. they can not get the binaries from TI for that processor thus no official support for 4.4.
As long as Qualcom is making processors then N4 will be supported for future versions of OS for much longer.
They also recently released the N7 with the same SoC.
Kinda surprising considering kitkat is optimized for 512mb ram at the min, this means even the Nexus S could gain new life from 4.4. I expect developers to hack the 4.3 drivers anyway.
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Well, obviously the Nexus 4 is next. It's next in line, and will stop receiving updates at some point. When? We don't know. All Google promises is 18 months. The Galaxy Nexus had its own limitations, really, so it's no huge surprise it was killed when it was. Nexus 4 might hold on longer, since the 5 isn't as dramatically different, and KitKat, and presumably future versions, will be better equipped to handle lower-end hardware. But we won't know until it happens.
Hopefully we at least get a couple more major updates. The hardware in the N4 is more than capable and Google can't use lack of SoC support as an excuse.
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Well, obviously the Nexus 4 is next. It's next in line, and will stop receiving updates at some point. When? We don't know. All Google promises is 18 months. The Galaxy Nexus had its own limitations, really, so it's no huge surprise it was killed when it was. Nexus 4 might hold on longer, since the 5 isn't as dramatically different, and KitKat, and presumably future versions, will be better equipped to handle lower-end hardware. But we won't know until it happens.
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There are at least rumors that a slightly refreshed n4 could show up at play again. That could increase our lifespan as well.
nexus 7 2012 grouper , is also getting 4.4 update ,confirmed from the google git sources..
I'm dissapointed that the Gnex was discontinued for updates.. I don't like the 18-month support window. Hopefully they learn from GNEX outlash and support the N4 for longer.
Google never stated that they will make updates for devices with RAM of 512mb or more, they just said that it's possible to run the software on those devices. Now it's up for the developers to create the software
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Be happy it's 18 months. Could be like carrier updates and only be supported for 90 days
Wayne Tech Nexus
its all about their product cycles, a nexus pretty much always gets left behind when the new device comes out
Nexus One -> 2.3 final
Nexus S -> 4.1 Final
Galaxy Nexus -> 4.3 Final
the nexus 4 likely won't see whatever release ends up out at this time next year either, also the Nexus 7 will not see the next version officially
you should wonder why support for the nexus S wasn't reestablished more than why the Gnex got left out in the cold.
short answer is it will be supported unofficially for years to come and the important parts have been open sourced
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they can no longer support the Galaxy Nexus officially because it has a TI processor which is no longer created ad Ti hasnt made processors in a long time. they can not get the binaries from TI for that processor thus no official support for 4.4.
As long as Qualcom is making processors then N4 will be supported for future versions of OS for much longer.
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THIS is why opensource is so important!
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you should wonder why support for the nexus S wasn't reestablished more than why the Gnex got left out in the cold.
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You serious? Single core and 384MB of usable RAM for the system (rest is for the GPU) and you think it should be reestablished? My Nexus S sits in my drawer.. It's completely a laggy mess on 4.1.1 and even the 4.2 / 4.3 builds.. I use it as an mp3 player and that's it. Most people who want usability actually rolled back to Gingerbread like I did...
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You serious? Single core and 384MB of usable RAM for the system (rest is for the GPU) and you think it should be reestablished? My Nexus S sits in my drawer.. It's completely a laggy mess on 4.1.1 and even the 4.2 / 4.3 builds.. I use it as an mp3 player and that's it. Most people who want usability actually rolled back to Gingerbread like I did...
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Right but kitkat was aimed at low memory devices, so why wouldn't that be a target
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Its just so bad for indians.Just when n4 strikes thru the indian market.n5 releases.Probably when u get your hands on a warranty proof n5 you find a release date of n6!!!!
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Its just so bad for indians.Just when n4 strikes thru the indian market.n5 releases.Probably when u get your hands on a warranty proof n5 you find a release date of n6!!!!
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Google is going to release the Nexus 5 in India starting in a few weeks. It has already been listed in Indian playstore along with pricing. So, release shouldn't take much time.
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By order of release, the nexus 4 will not be supported next....I hope Google will support it as long as they can because I love my nexus 4. Its still the sexiest phone around....and its lag free buttery greatness
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Right but kitkat was aimed at low memory devices, so why wouldn't that be a target
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Because its a really really old device and it wouldn't make any sense.
Also I think the discontinuation of Galaxy Nexus had more to do with TI than with the number of months that has passed since its release
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Update comparisons
Instead of just discussing whether 18 months is too short / long enough, let's do some comparisons.
In order for this comparison to be fair, I have decided to use the time difference between when the phone is first available and when Google released the version of android that the last update contained. This is necessary because different manufacturer takes different amount of time to adopt Google's source code into their own firmware update, so a manufacturer who takes their sweet time to release an update would appear to have a longer support period, which wouldn't be fair.
Samsung Galaxy S I9000
Released in June 2010
Last update version: 2.3.6
The 2.3.6 firmware was actually released by Google on September 2011. Support period is approximately 15 months.
Samsung Galaxy S 2
Released in May 2011
Last update version: 4.1.2
4.1.2 was released by Google in October 2012. Approximate support period 17 months.
HTC Sensation
Released in May 2011
Last update version: 4.0.3.
4.0.3. was released by Google in Dec 2011. HTC has announced that the Sensation won't be seeing an official 4.1 update. Approximate support period 7 months.
Sony Xperia S
Released in March 2012
Last update version: 4.1.2
4.1.2 was released by Google in October 2012. Approximate support period 7 months.
The results are quite ... interesting to say the least. As I said before, I am using the Google update release date instead of the manufacturer update release date, which is why the support period for Sony and HTC appears to be ridiculously short. However, it's their own damn fault for releasing flagship phone with out of date software. The Xperia S for example, could have been launched with ICS instead of GB, the former having been released in Oct 2011, almost half a year before the Xperia S launch date.
Back to the topic: In terms of android phones support period, 18 months is quite reasonable, especially since Nexus phones usually receive updates first before any other phones. So it really isn't too bad...
... until you start looking at iPhones. Eek. There, I said it. I am probably going to be tied to a pole and burnt to death for this. But before you light the fire underneath me, let's take a look at what the archenemy is doing.
iPhone 3GS
First released: June 2009
Last update version: iOS 6.1.3
Apple likes to throw out little updates every once a while, which are mostly bug fixes. So instead of using the release date of 6.1.3., I am going to use the released date for the last major update, iOS 6.1., which was released on Jan 2013. Approximate support period 43 months.
Now the number is impressive, but as some of you are going to point out, not all iOS updates are equal. Older iPhones do not get all the features of new iOS versions, either because of hardware limitation or "business strategy". Android phones have largely avoided this fate so far, unfortunately we already know that this will happen with 4.4 because the Nexus 4 does not have the hardware needed for the always listening feature. A legit reason, but a missing feature none the less.
Say whatever you want about Apple, but their support period far surpasses android phones. Obviously, there's a business reason for this - Apple continued selling the 3GS as a low-end phone for a very long time after its release, so there's an incentive to continue releasing update for it. Should Google do the same for android phones? Not necessarily. Android phones are supported by a lot of independent developers, who will continue to release updates long after Google cease support. That is one major advantage Android has that Apple can never hope to replicate. You can argue that it's not fair for developers to work for "free" when Google sit and reaps the benefits, and that non-tech savvy consumers (aka your grandparents) would not know how to flash custom roms, but that's a whole different discussion topic.
You may now light the fire.
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By Stephen Yuen
AndroidSPIN | Jun 19th
New versions of Android 4.3 have been spotted running on Nexus 4 and Nexus 7. Previously we have seen rumours and unconfirmed benchmarks running the newest version of Jelly Bean, but thanks to DoMiN8ToR at myce.com, the JWR66D (Nexus 7) and JWR53F (Nexus 4) builds of Android 4.3 have been seen in the wild.
According to DoMiN8ToR, the “J” at the beginning of the build code designates that the build is of Jelly Bean origins and that the “R” specifies that the build is from the second quarter. Furthermore, the number in the build code is the n-th day of the quarter, placing these builds sometime between at the end of May and the beginning of June. Finally, the last letter of the code defines what build of the day it is i.e. D is the fourth, and F would be the sixth build of the day.
I’m sure we’re all wondering when Android 4.3 is going to drop, but news like this further suggests that it will hopefully be very soon.
OP here http://drippler.com/updates/share/android-43-spotted-nexus-4-and-nexus-7
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OMG 4.3 SPOTTED ON N4 & N7 ARTICLE..... shows picture of Samsung device
Original rumor from here http://www.myce.com/news/exclusive-new-android-4-3-versions-spotted-on-nexus-devices-67544/ but i think it's still a rumor )
it will e not released today
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OMG 4.3 SPOTTED ON N4 & N7 ARTICLE..... shows picture of Samsung device
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New feature: 4.3 will turn your device into a galaxy S4
JWR66D and JWR53F are already rather old (in the context of bleeding edge/not for public roms).
JWR66N is the newest confirmed rom, and JWR66O is the newest unconfirmed rom>
JSR72 might be newer then JWR66O, R66O gives no indication on it's age.
R72 was June 11th 2013, while R66O could be from any time within the last 2 weeks.
(Before the thread gets locked again due to lack of N4 specific stuff)
Issue 250805 - chromium - Repeatable failed check (crash) on tumblr.com/login - An open-source project to help move the web forward. - Google Project Hosting:
Code:
google/occam/mako:4.3/JWR66N/711294:userdebug/dev-keys
We expect a new radio as it was previously already reported that JWR45B already had a new radio for the N4.
Presumably there will also be a new bootloader, but there's currently no proof that it will/wont
They've changed it from reporting JellyBeanMR2 to 4.3 in the fingerprints a bit back, when hints that they have 4.3_r1 in sight.
JellyBeanMR2 represents a master branch and 4.3 represents a branch cut for a release target.
Don't see why this thread would get closed. It is n4 related. Its an article that that's about 4.3 on the nexus 4!!!.
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One question is if 4.3 comes with a new kernel version, goog has been working with linux 3.8/3.9/3.10
Refs - kernel/common - Git at Google:
Excluding the NS getting updated to 3.0 (from 2.6.35), nexus devices generally end their lifetimes with the same major kernel version they started with (and extended nexus-like devices such as the xoom and OG droid)
The N7 sucessor will likely launch with a newer kernel version if there is one at all, and there's the question of if the N4/10 will be updated or simply stay on 3.4.
The N7 has already past this point by staying on linux 3.1 for android 4.2.
5.0 is almost guaranteed to come with something newer then 3.4 as even 3.8 is already EOL (end of lifed), 3.4 just happens to be a long term kernel version (ie it will get patches for much longer then non long term ones)
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New feature: 4.3 will turn your device into a galaxy S4
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LOL:laugh:
TheManii said:
New feature: 4.3 will turn your device into a galaxy S4
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Ewww.
Gonna stick to 4.2.2 then
Wait! So 4.3 will be touchwiz? I must spread this news to the verge and they will make it front story
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norpan111 said:
Wait! So 4.3 will be touchwiz? I must spread this news to the verge and they will make it front story
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Yes 4.3 is touchwiz yes:silly:
Aerys said:
Yes 4.3 is touchwiz yes:silly:
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Vanilla is the new OEM skin and touchwiz is the new vanilla
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norpan111 said:
Vanilla is the new OEM skin and touchwiz is the new vanilla
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I want key lime Pie, I mean seriously why is google isurprised of the fragmantation of android? It is their fault instead of bringing a big update they bring small ones..
Google thumbs down , someone of the android department must be fired
hamad138 said:
I want key lime Pie, I mean seriously why is google isurprised of the fragmantation of android? It is their fault instead of bringing a big update they bring small ones..
Google thumbs down , someone of the android department must be fired
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Why would fragmentation be less if they release yet another big update so phones with OEM skins will have long time to optimize ? If you do little at a time and put core-apps on play (like keyboard now) in my logic that will lead to less fragmentation actually.. You disagree?
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The way i see it there is no fragmentation in android (feel free to agree or not). OEM's skins are not really skins anymore, they are standalone versions of android.
Look at the feature-list of touchwiz for example, it offers a lot more than stock android, it's not only a simple framework modification, or a change for something that already exists on stock android, no, we're talking about new features (gimmicky or not), multiwindow, all those air gestures, hovering over text and photos, smart scroll, pause..., 4 or 5 presets for tuning screen colors, totally different camera app with plethora of options not found on stock (HDR recording etc..) . Furthermore, there is support for microSD which google removed from aosp.
My point is, people who buy samsung devices, must know that they are buying samsung's version of android, and have no right to blame google for any update system (frequent lil ones or one big update/year) , or any delays in updating their samsungs. It's not only related to updates, but in general when you buy a device that is not rocking official fully stock android (like nexus or google edition phones) , your relation is not with google, but with your OEM, and any complaints/praises/suggestions/ideas/bug report should be addressed to them. Google's stock android serves only as a reference for OEM's versions.
=> when you're buying a galaxy S or Note, you're not buying android, you're buying a samsung.
=> No fragmentation in android
Same applies to other OEMs.
Good point!
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To be clear I read somewhere on Google+, google mentioned Galaxy S3 as Android-based phone and N4 as Android.
So, OEM skin is actually Android-based OS and Vanilla Android is Android OS.
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Who cares about fragmentation. Most android users have never even heard of key lime pie. Most users are not even on 4.2.2. Bring on new versions. The only people that care are nexus users
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Smallsmx3 said:
Who cares about fragmentation. Most android users have never even heard of key lime pie. Most users are not even on 4.2.2. Bring on new versions. The only people that care are nexus users
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Don't forget xda users and geeks.
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Smallsmx3 said:
Who cares about fragmentation. Most android users have never even heard of key lime pie. Most users are not even on 4.2.2. Bring on new versions. The only people that care are nexus users
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I agree,many android users I know use anything between froyo and ICS, they have no idea about newer versions or even what the deserts mean, so fragmentation is irrelevant to them.
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I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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They're Google editions not nexus and they're what people have been requesting for years.
Just sick that Samsung leak 4.3 before we have it, that stinks
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
CalamitySir said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
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OMG! I am so sorry I didn't see your thread and I opened a new one. But we have the same idea/thinking. And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year. And this device is going to be so called "expired" by next year April.
Is Nexus 4 going to only have 4.3(upcoming) as its latest version looking at how it is only a minor upgrade compared to the previous nexus devices.
What I really hope is that Google can launch 5.0(maybe) before Nexus 4 go into retirement although I know that we still have this community to count on for future Android upgrades. If they don't release it by then, I am really going to be having doubts about their treatment to us Nexus fans.
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Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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OK I didn't read up on that part. Let's just hope those OEM continue to support their own skinned Android while leaving these behind.
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CalamitySir said:
And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year.
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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The devices will be buildable in aosp for a good while, so don't be worried. A quad core phone with 2gb ram isn't losing support any time soon. Especially a nexus. My crespo has 4.2, and it shipped with GB..... Think of it like that.
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rubiconjp said:
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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From a technical point of view it will get 4.3 and KLP, the hardware is powerful enough if it can handle 4.2.2.
On the other side there is of course the $$$ for support of such old devices...
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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CalamitySir said:
I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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No offense mate, but this is just a pile of bullsh*t.
Literally nothing of the above makes any sense.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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Ya I'm not quite sure where the OP is getting his/ her info from either..
Google will continue to support the Nexus line so long as the hardware is compatible with the software..
Google did I/0 right this year as its a developer conference and shouldn't be used for new products IMHO..
Testraindrop said:
No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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This. The op is confused.
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CalamitySir said:
I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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and you ideas are based on your imagination/creativity?
i/o is not when they release new nexus phones, nor is it a set date for android releases.
LG italy confirmed that O4X won't receive kitkat
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No news...
Did you really thought we would get an official update ?!
LG can not even support their current flagships , so why update an old device ?
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hallodrix said:
No news...
Did you really thought we would get an official update ?!
LG can not even support their current flagships , so why update an old device ?
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There was a little chance half a year ago when Hungarian LG support told me they will make KK for our device... And Yes its another thread about android 4.4 :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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PenguinStyle said:
There was a little chance half a year ago when Hungarian LG support told me they will make KK for our device... And Yes its another thread about android 4.4 :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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When you know that the Samsung S3 is getting kitkat and the main features of the current flagships, you just lose faith in LG, I dropped that phone 5 months ago because it was making me sick, and went for the original HTC One, and the support is still going on year after the release, not a very good strategy to keep consummers ...
Achraf4X said:
When you know that the Samsung S3 is getting kitkat and the main features of the current flagships, you just lose faith in LG, I dropped that phone 5 months ago because it was making me sick, and went for the original HTC One, and the support is still going on year after the release, not a very good strategy to keep consummers ...
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Flash a custom rom and BAM you have the latest 4.4 or enox and you have a G2 and G Pro in one phone
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PenguinStyle said:
Flash a custom rom and BAM you have the latest 4.4 or enox and you have a G2 and G Pro in one phone
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I did, I was on CM, on Vanir, and back to 4.1.2 on Enox and then on Zaiben, using iodak kernel... but I had some bootloops, and since I was too excited whenever I tried a new ROM, I didn't backup, I lost everything and it did kinda piss me off, what I mean is that the average consummer doesn't have to go through all this, we were proud when we bought the phone to say it's a Samsung S3-killer, but how about now?
This is why my next phone will be a nexus. No problems with updates. I should had bought the nexus 4...
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I just want to make it clear, that flashing the latest 4.4 custom rom is not equivalent to an update from LG. Even if LG gave us 4.2, we would get new blobs (these contain proprietary drivers, this costs LG to distribute) The blobs LG have left us with are a mess, Lots of incompatibilities with Android 4.4, this will only increase with each android update.
This would normally spell the end of third party support (custom roms etc), but the awesome work of the p880-dev team, allowed us to use Nexus7 blobs which are compatible with Android 4.4 and beyond, the issue here is, while the nexus7 has similar hardware, its not identical and those blobs are 100% compatible with our device.
We have been let down by LG quite badly, hopefully the next device you buy (be it a smartphone or tablet) is influenced by its manufacturers history if releasing appropriate updates to it devices, low to high end.
JoinTheRealms said:
I just want to make it clear, that flashing the latest 4.4 custom rom is not equivalent to an update from LG. Even if LG gave us 4.2, we would get new blobs (these contain proprietary drivers, this costs LG to distribute) The blobs LG have left us with are a mess, Lots of incompatibilities with Android 4.4, this will only increase with each android update.
This would normally spell the end of third party support (custom roms etc), but the awesome work of the p880-dev team, allowed us to use Nexus7 blobs which are compatible with Android 4.4 and beyond, the issue here is, while the nexus7 has similar hardware, its not identical and those blobs are 100% compatible with our device.
We have been let down by LG quite badly, hopefully the next device you buy (be it a smartphone or tablet) is influenced by its manufacturers history if releasing appropriate updates to it devices, low to high end.
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Question: considering the point you have superbly explained; considering that we need updated drivers and updated blobs, to make everything working with Android 4.4.x and superiors; has Nvidia released some new code (or may release it, if someone pay for it), fully compatible with our device, which is possible to work on, or is our chipset and other hardware stuff limited by outdated code, to be compatible with newer Android versions, and the only way to achieve a full compatibility would be receiving LG (impossible) updates?
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Question: considering the point you have superbly explained; considering that we need updated drivers and updated blobs, to make everything working with Android 4.4.x and superiors; has Nvidia released some new code (or may release it, if someone pay for it), fully compatible with our device, which is possible to work on, or is our chipset and other hardware stuff limited by outdated code, to be compatible with newer Android versions, and the only way to achieve a full compatibility would be receiving LG (impossible) updates?
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I dont want to go to deep, as im no expert. my assumption is (and if im wrong, i hope to be corrected) Nvidia modify their reference drivers to LGs specifications, this presumably costs LG a lot of money to have done. From any means though, we are not gonna receive specific blob updates, The problem for us is LG only have a single tegra 3 device, it doesn't make a great business case to pay for an update that only one phone or device can benefit from, comparatively Asus could essentially update 5 devices for the same price.
Grouper blobs should ensure us the Android updates the nexus 7 receives, but its likely gonna be a rocky road with future updates, like 4.3 to 4.4. No one really know for sure though
JoinTheRealms said:
I dont want to go to deep, as im no expert. my assumption is (and if im wrong, i hope to be corrected) Nvidia modify their reference drivers to LGs specifications, this presumably costs LG a lot of money to have done. From any means though, we are not gonna receive specific blob updates, The problem for us is LG only have a single tegra 3 device, it doesn't make a great business case to pay for an update that only one phone or device can benefit from, comparatively Asus could essentially update 5 devices for the same price.
Grouper blobs should ensure us the Android updates the nexus 7 receives, but its likely gonna be a rocky road with future updates, like 4.3 to 4.4. No one really know for sure though
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Yep, I only hope we'll not see our device losing some functions, everytime a new android release will come (like viderecording on kitkat)..I know, a phone is not eternal, but I'd like to see it supported until it has the necessary specs to be supported, at least by a great dev community as our is..and our devs are really working hard! But it would be great, having something to do with Nvidia to release new code
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Can some MOD close this thread please its USELESS.
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Can some MOD close this thread please its USELESS.
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I take it there isn't official word or press release yet then?
The problem isn't the phone(s), its the carriers and manufacturers, they kill it. With exception of a few, Samsung, HTC, LG surely sucks more, but I've seen complains from every manufacturer.
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It's been discarded and forgotten by LG and nVidia so fast, I'm still amazed we even got a 4.1 update. A former top-of-the-line device that's not even 2 full years old! Imagine you got it on 24-month contract last year, as some did.
We should flood their twitter and facebook and whatnot.
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We should flood their twitter and facebook and whatnot.
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I wouldn't flood social media but I am going to write to LG and ask what is going on as the Apple buisiness model doesn't work with Android.
If KitKat goes to the HTC One X and not the Optimus 4x then LG have screwed up yet again.
The Galaxy S2 Went from Android 2.2, to 2.3 Gingerbread, 4 ICS and then 4.2 Jelly Bean which I assume it will not be upgraded to Kitkat unless you want a Custom ROM
In comparison - The Optimus 2x - Android 2.2, 2.3 then stopped at ICS
Was it because the 2x wasn't seen as successful or as best selling as Samsung is that why they stopped support as it wasn't commercially viable to support a rare device?
Or because they are trying to keep each individual device unique in some way? QSlide went to the Optimus G but not the 4x
Apple support model is very different from Android.
First, because Apple has a very specific range of hardware to support. One update works for every version of their phones (3G, 4S, 5, etc..). Since the hardware between versions is the same or with very little differences.
In this scenario, I'm led to believe our 4X was surpassed quickly since LG release the 4X, and soon after G and G2, so 4X was "forgotten" in the middle. Too bad, since was a flagship phone, didn't got the attention it should.
If the sales weren't what they were expecting, (but they were still sales nonetheless), I guess investing in time and money for a software update which very few people use, isn't exactly a good step, however, there's a good ton of people which use the 4X. It has a good hardware, would support KitKat easily, but I guess it's easier and more profitable to release another high end device and support that one instead, even if equally for a short time.
When I bought my 4X, around 6 months ago, there were posts already mentioning no update for 4.3, i doubt LG would be kindhearted enough to release a KitKat update. But they could at least release the binaries for devs to develop custom roms easier. Oh, but they don't want that either.
Last phone from LG, for sure.
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I wouldn't flood social media but I am going to write to LG and ask what is going on as the Apple buisiness model doesn't work with Android.
If KitKat goes to the HTC One X and not the Optimus 4x then LG have screwed up yet again.
The Galaxy S2 Went from Android 2.2, to 2.3 Gingerbread, 4 ICS and then 4.2 Jelly Bean which I assume it will not be upgraded to Kitkat unless you want a Custom ROM
In comparison - The Optimus 2x - Android 2.2, 2.3 then stopped at ICS
Was it because the 2x wasn't seen as successful or as best selling as Samsung is that why they stopped support as it wasn't commercially viable to support a rare device?
Or because they are trying to keep each individual device unique in some way? QSlide went to the Optimus G but not the 4x
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You raise some good points Midnight I emailed LG and this was their reply.......
I have had a look into this for you and due to the age of the handset and reaching the end of it's update cycle, KitKat will not unfortunately be coming to the P880. I do apologise I couldn't be of anymore help but if you have anymore questions please don't hesitate to email back in. Have a great evening!
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What looks strange is the signal and battery icons in the status bar – they are definitely different from the Current ones as you can see. The icons actually looks very similar to Sony uses?
Here you can take a look at the status bar icons on the Nexus 5 compared to the one shown on the Google I/O website. We still are not sure that a new version of Android coming out of Google I/O this year, but we could be surprised with a new version.
Google I/O kicks off on Wednesday, June 25th, which is next week, and we're definitely excited for Google I/O this year. We're looking at Android Wear being announced and seeing lots of during the Keynote, but as far as Android 4.5 or even 5.0, I just don't see that happening. Last year we didn't see a new version of Android, we actually got it a couple months later at a separate event with the Nexus 7 (2013) and the Chromecast.
We know that Google is planning some redesigns for the next version of Android as well as kicking out Dalvik runtime.
But we shouldn't be surprised with a redesign of Android since we do see changes in the design all the time, just about every version of Android gets a tweak in its design. Which is normal for an OS. Sure there were some UI changes, but not much to get excited about.
Next week will be like Christmas for many of us, as Google has all kinds of presents and we can’t to see what Google has in store.
That battery icon looks way too small imo.
Not much change there. Time should be 4:44, no?
Current looks so much better.
Wow, they redefined ugly, imo
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Current ones look allot better :/
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Maybe it isn't a new look of statusbar maybe it's just a picture cause time shows 4:40 but we got android 4.4.4 with old statusbar so next version of android if it's 4.5 or 5.0 will have new statusbar but maybe not. Time doesn't prove it that new android will have this just my opinion no offense
I just hope that there is a new android version at I/O. I have been itching for it for a while now.
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I'm not expecting another android build at I/O atm Google is in a good place with KK OEM have actually caught up this time. Someone I know though thinks that Google will show 5.0 because of a picture that was tweeted by Google of a nexus 5 with the time in it set at 5:00 and Googles thing of having screenshots of the UI time being the next android version although that picture has 4:40 :S still be interesting to see what happens at I/O
I'm expecting a new tablet to replace the nexus 10, Android wear release date and price along with a Google own brand one for android silver/Nexus some news about android TV and some chrome OS stuff. Need to get me one of those android wear watches so hopefully the release isn't too far off
I dont think there will be a new android version at google i/o because of 4.4.4 update. I think that google isnt that stupid to work hard on two android versions just to release them with 3-4 day difference. I mean 4.4.4 and next version (4.5/5.0). Yes there are lots of messages by google about new android also the one I read in the morning that google made ART default runtime and completely removed Dalvik or about "kill switch" feature but no screenshots no info about new phone and if im right every android version was released with new phone that was first phone to run that version ...
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RaDiS234 said:
I dont think there will be a new android version at google i/o because of 4.4.4 update. I think that google isnt that stupid to work hard on two android versions just to release them with 3-4 day difference. I mean 4.4.4 and next version (4.5/5.0). Yes there are lots of messages by google about new android also the one I read in the morning that google made ART default runtime and completely removed Dalvik or about "kill switch" feature but no screenshots no info about new phone and if im right every android version was released with new phone that was first phone to run that version ...
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I wouldn't even consider 4.4.4 anything other than a bug fix for OpenSSL.
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Okay so let it be just bugfix but everything other I said can be true
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RaDiS234 said:
I dont think there will be a new android version at google i/o because of 4.4.4 update. I think that google isnt that stupid to work hard on two android versions just to release them with 3-4 day difference. I mean 4.4.4 and next version (4.5/5.0). Yes there are lots of messages by google about new android also the one I read in the morning that google made ART default runtime and completely removed Dalvik or about "kill switch" feature but no screenshots no info about new phone and if im right every android version was released with new phone that was first phone to run that version ...
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The 4.4.4 ota is only like 2.5 MB. Certainly nothing significant.
Google may reveal new version but I bet it won't be released for a few months.
New OS usually comes with new nexus phone release, but im sure google will have many hints for us about upcoming OS in i/o
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They stated last year that i/o was all about apps and development. they didn't even mention a new version last year. I doubt that things will change this year. Hopefully they tell us whether they are killing the nexus line or not. I'm good if they do it not as long as there is a comparable replacement in terms of pure android.
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Looks much better
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What looks strange is the signal and battery icons in the status bar – they are definitely different from the Current ones as you can see. The icons actually looks very similar to Sony uses?
Here you can take a look at the status bar icons on the Nexus 5 compared to the one shown on the Google I/O website. We still are not sure that a new version of Android coming out of Google I/O this year, but we could be surprised with a new version.
Google I/O kicks off on Wednesday, June 25th, which is next week, and we're definitely excited for Google I/O this year. We're looking at Android Wear being announced and seeing lots of during the Keynote, but as far as Android 4.5 or even 5.0, I just don't see that happening. Last year we didn't see a new version of Android, we actually got it a couple months later at a separate event with the Nexus 7 (2013) and the Chromecast.
We know that Google is planning some redesigns for the next version of Android as well as kicking out Dalvik runtime.
But we shouldn't be surprised with a redesign of Android since we do see changes in the design all the time, just about every version of Android gets a tweak in its design. Which is normal for an OS. Sure there were some UI changes, but not much to get excited about.
Next week will be like Christmas for many of us, as Google has all kinds of presents and we can’t to see what Google has in store.
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Current one looks so much better
Smallsmx3 said:
They stated last year that i/o was all about apps and development. they didn't even mention a new version last year. I doubt that things will change this year. Hopefully they tell us whether they are killing the nexus line or not. I'm good if they do it not as long as there is a comparable replacement in terms of pure android.
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It has already leaked that they will revealing the next version of Android at the keynote. But they won't be releasing it until later in the year.
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It has already leaked that they will revealing the next version of Android at the keynote. But they won't be releasing it until later in the year.
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Exactly what I wanted to say. There will definitely be announcements made at I/O in regards to a new Android version, but it will probably be released not untill later this year around fall.
The screenshots however I think would be a nice change to the current status icons. The only thing is that the spaces in between the icons don't look very consistent. So there either have to be changes made, or the screenshot is not what the next Android version will look like.
Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop before Nexus 5 owners do And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
bufosp said:
Some nexus device owner bought nexus device(s) because they want to get the first taste of the new android software update. This time, Google seemed to broke their promise by delaying the update for Nexus 5 and letting LG G3 owners get their hands on Lollipop. And there's a big chance that the new moto x owners will too.
Not to mention now that many OEMs are promising more and more faster software update (moto, sony, htc, and now LG), do you guys think it's still worth it to own a Nexus device? I know there's still the other factor such as vanilla android, but that's it.
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I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
Sigh. Did you forget we got a dev preview(s)? Did you miss the memo about there being bugs and that that's why it's delayed? A nexus device will still always be pure android. So no, I don't care that other OEM's are pushing it out faster. If fact that's a good thing for Android. For years Google has been trying to do what you're complaining about. It's only a week or two. In fact I hope it still happens, just so I can be amused by threads such as this.
I'd imagine all future incremental releases come faster to the nexus line than oems ...so I'll just wait...plan on getting a nexus 6 anyways...and who knows how long that will take lol
I think its a good thing OEMs are pushing out Android L so quickly.... so many OEMs don't update there phones at all or if they do its 5-7 months after a new release of android. In my opinion this is great news for Android. I would rather Google sit on the Lollipop for N5 and get the bugs resolved first then release it. Even if it means a month. I mean we have had the Dev preview since June, after all this time is it going to kill anyone to wait a little longer? I think everyone needs to calm down. I am enjoying this build of Lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-lpv-dev-n5-enhanced-t2856934/page796
And it has been running excellent. So big thank you to al the devs who are working hard on these Android L roms. And when Google get official L out there we will all benefit from it, but in good time when Google feels its in tip top shape for the masses.
We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
vbz89 said:
We need a new sub forum for rants!!
It really is great that oems are able to push out updates so soon.
Really don't see a point of ppl making new threads for this..
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
I bought a N5 because it was a great price and I like pure Android. Is it really that big a deal that some other phone got updated a few days before the N5 did? People get way too nuts over updates. The N5 will have it soon, I promise.
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First world problems.......
I didn't buy it to be first to get updates....I bought it as a great value smartphone first and foremost, it still regardless of updates you know
I didn't buy it for the updates. I'm not upset by others releasing a bugged aosp source. It is a good thing for the ecosystem that the OEMS are releasing updates so quickly. Would you rather have update after quick update due to bugs, or one pretty solid release. No other line of devices got the official previews. The latest preview has been stable for a daily driver!
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no kind sir, as a matter of fact this is not a rant. the purpose of my thread is to see whether people really see a downgrade value in owning a Nexus device, since one of the main perks of owning a Nexus device is to be the first device to get a new Android software. and since it is true that we did get the developer preview, it couldn't be said that it was usable as a daily driver.
If the choice of words that i used in this thread may cause a confusion that some people think this is a rant thread, then i beg your pardon since my English is not sufficient enough.
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You should also read more closely. The article you are getting your information clearly stated lg is trying it in Poland not the US out any other major market.
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If you want to know the reason why I bought a nexus 5? I will answer this in Nov 2015 when Android M comes out and again we wait for its release on our nexus 5s(in 4-5 weeks) while other OEM flagship phones of current age wait in doubt of the release(4-5 months). I bought the device for it's solid software support, not necessarily faster but a solid 2-3 year support official support and most probably a 5 year community support. But then again most people sell the devices 2-3 years down the line.
It's not about other devices getting OTAs faster it's about getting the better of them all. I know this had been mentioned a couple of times before but LG G3 and the Moto X got a test release, something which we received 3-4months back I believe. Google does not abandon it's nexus range device without a proper goodbye.
There are more important things in the world.
It's really rather whether any device has an update. The reason for the delay is known, who would like Lollipop may already have run long.
And then I buy a Nexus because I like Nexus and not to previously have an update maybe a few days. Envy is something really repulsive.
Don't compare 2013 device with 2014 device.
If you really want to compare, please compare LG G3 vs Nexus 6 for 2014, which one is faster to get Lollipop.
2013 devices are LG G2 vs Nexus 5. Which one is faster? :silly:
Are you kidding??!!!!You could install it from 6 month ago.
LG g3 didn't receive anything yet. Just because there was an announcement doesn't mean its released. Besides I hear the nexus 5 gets it on the 12th
I would not trade my nexus 5 for an LG g. Besides, I have been running android l for months. Sure, it's great that os like lg and Motorola are taking the available 5.0 software and porting it to their devices, this is great for everyone.... but that software they are using is no further forward than is currently available for nexus devices.... They aren't getting a finished version.
What's the point in buying a nexus? That's something only you can decide for yourself. Buy what ever takes your fancy at the time
koricua74 said:
I bought my Nexus 5 because at $350 it was the best deal. Faster updates was secondary since I run a third party ROM on my phone. IMO it's great that LG, Moto, and HTC has=ve committed to faster updates and hopefully the other OEMs follow suit.
Also let's not forget the fact that we've had access to Lollipop since Google I/O 2014 (June) when they released the Developer Preview while the other guys didn't.
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For me faster updates were the most important thing than came the hardware specs..
The real question is when will the g2 get the updates g3 being the latest and greatest from LG is getting the update but the older devices will not get it for some time. However the nexus 4 and 5 are not the latest still they will get the update very soon. So if you plan on getting the latest flagship devices you don't need to worry about updates that much but if you plan on keeping your device for a few years nexus is still a great proposition.
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12 of November
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/572117/20141109/nexus-5-7-10-android-0-lollipop.htm#.VGB55PmG9E8
this is fast enought