Will the Sony Xperia Z1 work in ocean water? I know it'll work in the shower, pool, etc. but I was wondering if anybody had taken it to the beach or gone snorkeling or swimming in the ocean with it yet. And if so, what was your experience with it? I am asking because I am planning on getting this phone and I currently have a waterproof Sony Cybershot DSC-TX20 and I've taken that thing everywhere and it hasn't failed me yet, so I'm curious if the Xperia Z1 will be more or less equal to the water proofing of the DSC-TX20. Thanks!
In the user's manual it us very clearly stated. No salt water immersion.
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Yeah...touch screen doesn't like salt
Maybe it'll work but you'll scratch your screen if you don't wash it right away...
But I wouldn't recommend that..
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Wouldn't recommend it. The sea water is bad news for the rubber seals and will cause them to become brittle and fall apart. That's why u don't see many soft rubber things in the sea only hardened plastics.
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tyler.samse said:
Will the Sony Xperia Z1 work in ocean water? [...] I am asking because I am planning on getting this phone and I currently have a waterproof Sony Cybershot DSC-TX20 and I've taken that thing everywhere and it hasn't failed me yet, so I'm curious if the Xperia Z1 will be more or less equal to the water proofing of the DSC-TX20. Thanks!
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Very risky, if you have a problem warranty won't works.
tyler.samse said:
Will the Sony Xperia Z1 work in ocean water? I know it'll work in the shower, pool, etc. but I was wondering if anybody had taken it to the beach or gone snorkeling or swimming in the ocean with it yet. And if so, what was your experience with it? I am asking because I am planning on getting this phone and I currently have a waterproof Sony Cybershot DSC-TX20 and I've taken that thing everywhere and it hasn't failed me yet, so I'm curious if the Xperia Z1 will be more or less equal to the water proofing of the DSC-TX20. Thanks!
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The salt water will corrode the exposed leads in the magnetic adaptor port.
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Hi Guys,
I've been wondering for a few days, Sony is basically making the "Waterproof" function of this phone as the main selling point.
I'm just curious as to how the insurance and warranty is going to be affected by the water proof.
As I know most insurances claim its water damage and say its not covered.
Can they still do this with the Xperia, as its water proof?
Are warranties etc going to change incorporating the water-proof(ness).
Thanks.
It's not water-proof, it's water-resistant.
The water seals inside the phone will still void your warranty if voided, its just like a water proof camera, if YOU haven't secured your waterproof flaps/seals properly and then submerge it, then it is user error.
Wait a minute, so why the hell do they claim "Water-PROOF" whens it not.
So basically, you couldn't just wash it off like the advert.
Define RESISTANT compared to PROOF....?
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching....
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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bucho2004 said:
??? It is water resistant, I washed my xperia z a few times now, mostly as a show of, and also spent some time in the bath with it watching.... PPPOOORRRNNN
Nevermind point is when you don't close the flaps and submerge it the sensors underneath the flaps turn red, making warranty void, but if there is water damage without the flap sensors tripping, then you are covered by warranty, some users are worried about the flaps turning red, but for me they are still white eventhough I submerged the phone in water several times now.
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Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
Wilks3y said:
Hmm, what flaps?
Sony is deceiving me here. I though it was water-proof !!
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Erm... There are flaps on the phone covering every port and I'm sure the Xperia Z is advertised as water resistant. Not waterproof. It can still witstand being submerged underwater for up to 30mins and 100m though.
I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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I guess you mean 1m and not 100m. But that would have been nice for deep sea diving.
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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bkbatboy said:
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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So whats the use in the flaps?
Why not just remove the flaps and then theres no chance of you messing up?
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Hahahah XD Yeah! My bad! Was doing Math while typing that post
Math screws up your brain.
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Maths obliterates your brain !!
Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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Originally Posted by bkbatboy
If i am not wrong, the spec states ip7 and ip5.ip 5 would likely be water resistant while ip 7 is water proofing
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You are wrong, it is
IP55 = Limited dust ingress protection low pressure water jets from any direction
and
IP57 = Limited dust ingress protection immersion between 15cm and 1m depth
And as long as the flaps are closed you'll be a ok.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
go ahead and get it. this is the most rugged high end phone to date and probably for the entire year 2013. all the best.
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What the heck, I need to see one of these in real I think.
I really wanted one but now with all the talk of flaps I'm thinking twice...
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The flaps don't really disturb, To charge the phone you can use the dock, and for listening to music (if you do that a lot) you can go with bluetooth earphones.
And I've submerged my phone also in a galss of water and also took it into the shower, you should just make sure that you dry your phone before openening the flaps again, then avaerything should be fine
Great, Xperia looks like my upgrade then. May see some of you around here in a few months time when I'll be an owner
Have fun all, thanks very much for your responses.
Ive seen videos of underwater in a pool works great, but how does it work at the beach in saltwater?
on the sony channel the top comment from sony does not reccomend salt water, why is that? Should that mean that somehow saltwater is different? i mean, sand should be considered dust, so it should be salt water proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x09iroEd63Y
Avantiel said:
Ive seen videos of underwater in a pool works great, but how does it work at the beach in saltwater?
on the sony channel the top comment from sony does not reccomend salt water, why is that? Should that mean that somehow saltwater is different? i mean, sand should be considered dust, so it should be salt water proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x09iroEd63Y
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Salt water corrodes metal and can damage the seals as well. It isn't recommended, but will likely be ok in small doses if you rinse it off in fresh water right after. Don't count on Sony recognizing your warranty if they find any evidence of salt water in the phone though.
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It is very clearly stated on Sony's documentation : no salt water immersion.
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Hi all
I'm considering changing from Z to Z1. Xperia Z have some design flaws, The biggest one is heat issue. The heat itself is OK but it will continuously melt back glass glue little by little, then the phone will start to leak, so dust and water will get in. Is this problem fixed on Z1?
Another big design flaw on Z is headphone and charging port caps are easily worned out. Magnetic charger and cap free headphone jack would be good.
The only I find getting on my nerves is design flaw is the non scratch proof shatter resistance film on top of shatter resistant dragontrail glass on screen. I know this can be sorted out with a screen protector but I'm no pro when it comes to that and I always have bubbles some where on the screen
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romeokk said:
Hi all
I'm considering changing from Z to Z1. Xperia Z have some design flaws, The biggest one is heat issue. The heat itself is OK but it will continuously melt back glass glue little by little, then the phone will start to leak, so dust and water will get in. Is this problem fixed on Z1?
Another big design flaw on Z is headphone and charging port caps are easily worned out. Magnetic charger and cap free headphone jack would be good.
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bull****! (with all do respect!)
glue of xperia Z melt by phone heat !?!?!
it is funny!
40-60 degree of C can melt just ice! not that powerful glue on xperia devices.
(however Cnet test it under HOT chocolate and nothing happened! and also a Japanese lady put it in hot water!)
one more thing;
for example that glue start melting when it warm up
but after that it becomes cool, from 60C to 30C and it means glue will return to their standard condition. cause glue are elastic!
i had Xperia Z for 8-9 months for heavy gaming and it means almost of time hot.
nothing happened.
anyway if u wanna buy new phone w8 for MWC and then decide wht to buy
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bull****! (with all do respect!)
glue of xperia Z melt by phone heat !?!?!
it is funny!
40-60 degree of C can melt just ice! not that powerful glue on xperia devices.
(however Cnet test it under HOT chocolate and nothing happened! and also a Japanese lady put it in hot water!)
one more thing;
for example that glue start melting when it warm up
but after that it becomes cool, from 60C to 30C and it means glue will return to their standard condition. cause glue are elastic!
i had Xperia Z for 8-9 months for heavy gaming and it means almost of time hot.
nothing happened.
anyway if u wanna buy new phone w8 for MWC and then decide wht to buy
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Ive never owned xperia z but I wanted to buy it some time ago and i readed a lot about back glass comming out in xperia z because of the heat
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x102x96x said:
bull****! (with all do respect!)
glue of xperia Z melt by phone heat !?!?!
it is funny!
40-60 degree of C can melt just ice! not that powerful glue on xperia devices.
(however Cnet test it under HOT chocolate and nothing happened! and also a Japanese lady put it in hot water!)
one more thing;
for example that glue start melting when it warm up
but after that it becomes cool, from 60C to 30C and it means glue will return to their standard condition. cause glue are elastic!
i had Xperia Z for 8-9 months for heavy gaming and it means almost of time hot.
nothing happened.
anyway if u wanna buy new phone w8 for MWC and then decide wht to buy
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Unfortunately, it really happens.
But you will never notice this flaw until you see dust in the camera or you put it in the water. You will see these issues on Z forum for sure.
I multitask alot with my beloved Xperia Z and sometimes it gets hot but i ignore it and it finds a way to cool down while i still use it.
My question is if its ok to drop it in cooled water when it gets hot OR is the temperature difference shift is to big that its not so healthy for the Xperia Z?
...and to get this out of the way for people who are againt the water proof use...i had my purple Xperia Z for 8 months, i wash it every few days with soap and water, i use it ALL the time in the pool and underwater and basically im VERY confident in its waterproof capabilities SO lets stay on topic please.
Thanks for your help and opinions in advance
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well i guess it would be ok , isn't it ? it is not like he will do a hypothermic shock like the human body , i guess
yes the phone is waterproof yet it is very easy to crack , my gf droped my phone from like 1m and broke the whole back , happily the camera survived
Well you might end up with a broken back glass if you keep doing it.I havent experienced it firsthand but its easy to imagine...
No brother dont do that.yes our xz can be so hot sometimes just stop for a while if you think your phone is gonna melt.
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Usually when you put hot glass on cold water the temperature change breaks the glass and our xperia Z is made of glass xD so maybe breaks, maybe not. I'm not sure if the temperature is too hot to create the conditions to break the glass.
according to software : when phone reaches high temp levels , the cpu clock and gpu and brightness level get decreased a little every temp level , so u going to reach a level the phone will start cooling it self as u mentioned , so u don't need to put it in cold water
if u pot hot glass in cold water , the glass will get broken , so careful , don't put your phone in danger just to win couple of mins of cooling
And take in mind the condenced water phenominon when switching in tempetures
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I have not taken into consideration the glass.... yes you're right the glass may break if the temperature difference is too big from hot to cold.
Considering i removed the back and front shaterproof films, i dont want the glass to crack! Haha ...saying that though, i must say im VERY confident in the Xperia Z durability as well. I drop it alot and nothing happens beside the corners that got some paint scratches
Remember that the front and back glass is a bit deeper than the frame so even when it falls straight down, the frame absorbs the hit when it touches the ground.
Back to topic...
I had this idea to create water cooling for our Xperia Z but besides putting it inside a clear container (like a cup or a bawl) with cooled water and then use a bluetooth mouse, i dont see how this waterproof advantage can be used for cooling.
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Hello guys,
I just did a small test with water resistance on this phone by putting this phone into the water.
The problem is that the mini jack stopped working.
It just won't recognise connecting any headphones, the sound is being played on the speaker.
It's been already sth about 20 minutes and it still didn't change, should I be worried (because I'm starting to be)?
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Hello guys,
I just did a small test with water resistance on this phone by putting this phone into the water.
The problem is that the mini jack stopped working.
It just won't recognise connecting any headphones, the sound is being played on the speaker.
It's been already sth about 20 minutes and it still didn't change, should I be worried (because I'm starting to be)?
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The mini jack got "repaired" after about 1h, but I won't give it another try early.
Do You guys also have such a problem after putting your phone into the water, or is yours mini jack working normally just after taking it out of water?
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mr.loverlover said:
The mini jack got "repaired" after about 1h, but I won't give it another try early.
Do You guys also have such a problem after putting your phone into the water, or is yours mini jack working normally just after taking it out of water?
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Well after my Z1 got fixed I noticed no issues at all since this time. I can take a shower with my Z1 everyday and it will survive, just always make sure flaps are totally safe.
Mine stopped working after i washed it. Gotta blow into it and let it dry for a few hours.
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Mine stopped working after i washed it. Gotta blow into it and let it dry for a few hours.
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So in Your case it's quite normal that you have to wait some time until it gets dry and then it will always get working back again?
I'm just asking, because now I don't know whether I want to put it back into water. Maybe this time it won't "heal" itself.
Xperia z had a better solution for that, I don't know why they have changed it.
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I think the main feature of water proof is protect your phone from worst water accident like drop in water, wet in rain to keep phone alive. Water proof always work well with brand new devices, but im not sure after using a couble of months :laugh:
ps: DO NOT SINK IT IN WATER BY YOURSEFT AND GOT FAIL
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I think the main feature of water proof is protect your phone from worst water accident like drop in water, wet in rain to keep phone alive. Water proof always work well with brand new devices, but im not sure after using a couble of months :laugh:
ps: DO NOT SINK IT IN WATER BY YOURSEFT AND GOT FAIL
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Yeah, now I surely won't do it myself, only washing the screen, but I will pay attention so that the water doesn't get into mini jack port.
When I had Xperia Z i could put it into the water and there was no problem at all, Xperia Z1 should be improved in the water resistance, but as I can see it now, it isn't, it even got worse.
The flaps were a better solution.
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I think the main feature of water proof is protect your phone from worst water accident like drop in water, wet in rain to keep phone alive. Water proof always work well with brand new devices, but im not sure after using a couble of months :laugh:
ps: DO NOT SINK IT IN WATER BY YOURSEFT AND GOT FAIL
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You just have to check on the condition of the rubber seals on your flaps after a while
Btw if it still have warranty send it to Sony service to check water proof, if it is manufacturer fault they will fix, or not you must pay .
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I just did a small test with water resistance on this phone by putting this phone into the water. The problem is that the mini jack stopped working.
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If you're still using your Z1, getting a new one, or repairing it, my advice for you next time is to NOT test the phone's water resistance. Take advantage of water resistance in case your phone falls in water ACCIDENTLY. Underwater pictures are fine, but make sure you're brief with the camera and you dry the phone right away after you're out of the water. There's no reason to risk destroying your $600 phone to test or neglect its resistances. To my knowlege, Sony doesn't repair water damage, even under warrenty. You have to pay money for the damage.
Despite the Z1 being a premium grade phone, don't trust the ads100% of the time.
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Btw if it still have warranty send it to Sony service to check water proof, if it is manufacturer fault they will fix, or not you must pay .
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Well, normally I probably would do that, however I like to change phone every couple of weeks and this will last shorter than waiting for the phone until it gets repaired.
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