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[Q] z4root?

Just noticed the app z4root in the Market. It claims one-click rooting and unrooting of various devices, among them the Galaxy S. Search of the Galaxy Tab boards didn't turn up anything. Is this safe and recommended for the Tab?

Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.

Thanks, I was too timid to try it without someone confirming it first.
I can now also confirm that it works fine. Went very smoothly, took about 1 minute and a reboot.

It seems like such an odd way to root for me. My first experience of rooting was a HTC Legend. I had to downgrade the software (one complete wipe and flashing of firmware) and then flash a rooted update. And I still don't have proper write access to the /system partition. It took about half an hour to root the Legend, this took 2 minutes, and I didn't loose any data. Awesome!

Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?

Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.

Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.

Rapax said:
My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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It's the only reason I rooted this thing.

Garret said:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?
Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
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from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)

Router thanks. Good informations.
I would like to root my SGT because I need CIFS access to my network share directories, in my Windows network. I found some prgs in the Market, but they need 'root rights'. So here I am. I will use this root app.
A question for you (you seem experienced) about the correct procedure to reinstall apps already installed after a root procedure:
1. Do an AppBrain Syncronize
2. Launch Root (Z4root)
3. Install the AppBrain app again and then connect to my AppBrain account to 'restore' apps?
Is it correct my idea?

that is correct, its not like the root we do when rooting and android phone like my evo, you can actuall run the z4root the run and install that program

Rapax said:
My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
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...and Droid Wall, to prevent applications from accessing the web "unnecessarily"

that was easy and painless. nice, full root

I've found that I loose root occasionally, any idea why?
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Seems to work.
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Router said:
from noob to noob - to be able do things that manufacturer doesnt think of - adfree, clock synch, interface mods, changing the way memory works (get rid of stacking lags).. all in all improve things that in retail are sold to you and a "new" model))
And i know for sure
- 1)dont do anything before reading stuff here
- 2)if you dont know that you need it - dont do it
- 3)dont do things until you know exactly how to undo them unless you are looking for pretexts to buy yourself a new device.
sorry for this lecture)
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Well, for starters I'd like to get rid of the very annoying vodafone booting / shutting down images.
If I could also remove some pre-installed apps, that'd be nice too ^^

recovery
Does this root give a recovery image?

kevinniven said:
Does this root give a recovery image?
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No. As far as I'm aware we don't have a recovery image.
Swyped from my Galaxy Tab

sts_fin said:
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
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When you ran OCLF, what was the amount of RAM you selected, I think by default it shows somewhere around 846 odd..

Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.

[Q] Color Nook 1.2 root

Anyone gotten the new ROM yet? I followed the instructions over at the this thread and it doesn't look like it worked.
The instruction that states "Once you are back up, you can use the browser to download and run .APK files from anywhere."..
When I go to the browser and try to select "Zeam-2.9.2.apk" or "Superuser.apk" which are mentioned in the post, I get an 'Unsupported file format'.
Sounds like something didn't work right, but I'm not sure what that is.. anyone here seen that problem?
I tried to post this in that thread, but didn't have access to it....

You can install without unrooting on 1.1 version only. 1.0 and 1.01 need to be unrooted. Once the update is installed, you can use this hack (hamncheese's) to kinda root the new stock froyo version, but it is not a real rooting. As of 4:45pm pst no one has gotten a working root for the new 1.2 version. Give it a couple of days and they will have a method to totally root the nook on the new version. Or, you can run dual boot and be happy for the time being until they get the new root patch.
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I probably should have been clearer.. my bad.. I did try hamncheese's kinda root, but it didn't look like it worked.
oka1 said:
You can install without unrooting on 1.1 version only. 1.0 and 1.01 need to be unrooted. Once the update is installed, you can use this hack (hamncheese's) to kinda root the new stock froyo version, but it is not a real rooting.
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Wife wants Angry birds... me no want Angry wife

tanstaafl1963 said:
I probably should have been clearer.. my bad.. I did try hamncheese's kinda root, but it didn't look like it worked.
Wife wants Angry birds... me no want Angry wife
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You and me both.......... LOL I d give it a couple of days maybe tomorrow they will have the root patch figured out... Tell you wife it has been only 24 hours......... XDA Devs are fast but sheesh....... they need a little time......

I was unable to do this. It attempted to install, then rebooted, then attempted installation, then rebooted... I unrooted, did a full restore and allowed the update. Not so impressed to be honest with the stock Froyo. Seriously considering going back to rooted 1.1.

Read the thread, it sure does not work hope someone comes up with an answer. Thanks

Just got my Nook and had it updated in the store. The guy says, "it should have lots of other apps plus Angry Birds".
Well, it is 1.2, but no apps and no Angry Birds... Figures.
I too hope someone gets 1.2 Root-able soon.

I sideloaded 1.2 and in the "shop" section, you can "buy" Angry Birds. It's $2.99. Its not RIO or Seasons but it is Angry Birds so maybe you can appease the wife until a root is released. I downloaded it (bought it) and it works great! Ken

anyone know when an new auto-root might be out?

Should be very soon. They got the market working in the manual root.

market issues
hharan: Should be very soon. They got the market working in the manual root.
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I know some say the market works but I am still having trouble with it. I cannot seem to install anything. I click the app to download and install, it "starts" the download but the progress bar doesnt fill. Then it suddenly fills, says installing, then dumps me back to the app's description page, with nothing installed. It reports that the "download unsuccessful" so I repeat the install again...no change
I am tempted to go back to 1.1 since 1.2 doesnt offer me anything new unless rooted....

You have an sd card in?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

jpeg42 said:
You have an sd card in?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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yep. In that case I either get "download unsuccessful" or "installation failed"

need an autorooter
I have tried almost everything to root my 1.2 and am getting nowhere. I am a newbie but successfully rooted. bricked and wiped using instructions and a lot of head time. Just can't get my head arround it this time. I need to root so I can get the NetFlix app running. Thanks guys for your hard work.
Katesguy

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katesguy said:
I need to root so I can get the NetFlix app running. Thanks guys for your hard work.
Katesguy
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Forget about running netflix unless you are willing to flash the cyanogen rom. There are settings that you simply cannot change (at this time) without switching to a different rom. I dont know what to tell you other than to follow the directions others have already posted. The problem with the cyanogen rom is that it does not put the nook to sleep properly when the screen is turned off, so the battery life drains like a leaky faucet. But, I think they have finally started to figure that out so I think that it should be added to one of the next iterations. Once it does, I will happily switch over to using that rom, especially now that the nook app allows magazines etc.
UPDATE ON FAILED INSTALLS: Turns out that only SOME applications do not install correctly, I have been able to install others from the android market place and amazon market place. Angry birds (any version) is one that will NOT install. Any tips? I have definitely used an sd card properly with no change.

scales11 said:
Forget about running netflix unless you are willing to flash the cyanogen rom. There are settings that you simply cannot change (at this time) without switching to a different rom. I dont know what to tell you other than to follow the directions others have already posted.
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That is not correct; with rooted stock 1.2 it is quite simple (especially with Root Explorer).
As for installing Angry Birds, if you are on rooted stock 1.2, try downloading it WITHOUT the SD card mounted.

interesting
Interesting, I will try to enable netflix by changing the file using this method:
http://reviewhorizon.com/2011/05/how-to-watch-netflix-on-nook-color/
I had read a post that mentioned I needed to use ES File explorer to access the file. ES File explorer didnt want to cooperate and complained about my rom, and i figured I need to be running a different rom.
As for the angry birds, I have tried installing with and without the sd card and not had any luck.

tanstaafl1963 said:
The instruction that states "Once you are back up, you can use the browser to download and run .APK files from anywhere."..
When I go to the browser and try to select "Zeam-2.9.2.apk" or "Superuser.apk" which are mentioned in the post, I get an 'Unsupported file format'.
Sounds like something didn't work right, but I'm not sure what that is.. anyone here seen that problem?
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when you first install an app, it should ask you what you want to install it with. One option is "Android Package Installer" and that's the one you want. I chose the other one the first time around and ended up restoring and rechoosing. The other package installer (i think it's called nook something or other) does not allow you to select the permissions for the program, and thus, will not install the applications properly.
To test and see if that is the issue, try to install an app... if it comes up with the permissions for the app upon install, then that is probably not the issue. On the other hand, if it immediately just says failed, then you may have chosen the wrong package installer.
also,
For problems with large file install errors, such as angry birds, try installing the kernel in the this thread... that's what worked for me. Alternatively, if you want to install angry birds, etc, then you can copy the apk over to internal memory, take the sd card out, and then install it. (this kernel makes that unnecessary though)

Rooting nook is easy when using the CM7 Mod. You can get the market working with out problem and would be able to run most application and games. I had raging thunder 2 running with out problem.
The thing that I don't like on it is that, CM7's replacement of the stock softkeys (navigation buttons on the buttom) seems to be designed for mobile phones as they are small buttons.
So i unrooted my nook but would be trying this link and see what i can get:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027

[Q] Good for Enterprise on custom Android ROMs

Has anyone had a problem with the intial setup for Good for Enterprise on custom Android ROMs? I installed it (using an issued PIN) on stock eclair on my Captivate and it worked fine. I then rooted, backed it up via TIBU and restored on Froyo and it still worked fine. The same process worked recently on Gingerbread. However, I have tried multiple custom Froyo ROMs and 1 GB recently and if I try the initial setup (with a new PIN) on anything other than stock eclair (even rooted), it will stop at "retrieving policies" and never complete. I then have to ask for a new PIN from my IT support and revert to eclair and finish the setup, backup, and restore on the later custom ROMs. Has anyone seen this and have any idea why? My IT support has no idea. I am not in a policy checking for root access and it does continue to work with root.
EDIT: I wonder if it is that the device name used in build properties is referenced during that step and it fails due to an unknown device...
Also, I have found that after I have it working after a certain PIN used, if I ever restore to an ealier point (due to a theme gone wrong, etc) then it stops syncing even if the restore point is AFTER I had it working with that PIN. It seems like the local software either is exchanging a dynamic password with the server or there is a message index, etc that has to be in sync. Any thoughts?

When in the Good setup screen, go to Menu>Device Info. Does the Phone number appear? I've been using CM7 just fine with Good but after the last few nightlies, Good no longer works. The phone number doesn't appear in the device info. Good thinks there is no phone network present.

I am a heavy Good user, unfortunately also addicted to changing ROMs on a frequent basis. I have never had an issue with Good running on any ROM, just on restoring from TiBu. I can flash new kernels, themes, etc, and Good works just fine. If I re-flash the same ROM, it resides and works just fine. It is only when flashing a new ROM I have problems. Good appears to restore OK, but won't pull new emails to the inbox. I ave to get a new PIN and re-install.

Same here.. i am addicted to flashing as well.
I tried Titanium backup to backup and restore to new ROM, but somehow Good just keep crashing after i put in my password.
I am sure I can ask for new pin, reinstall and what not.. but how often can we ask IT people (for my company at least) for new pins, until one day they may say, bugger off you ROM addict!

Finally figured it out, I think. The trick is to NOT have Good running in persistent mode when you do the backup with TiBu. IOW, reboot and backup with TiBu before you start Good and log in. I did that the last couple of new ROMs and it restored and worked just fine.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App

GOOD for Enterprise on Imito AM801 Tablet
I am also getting the Phone network is off. This is a tablet and does not have any phone piece or sim card installed. No hardware is even inside the tablet. Has anyone ran accross this issue on tablets?

This works for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35263313#post35263313

Good with custom roms
Just to share a recent experience on that topic:
I wanted to have a custom rom but need GFE for my work which of course has a policy of no root with GFE.
So after a little research and useful info from this forum I figured a very simple way to do it, as long as you don't consider root as critical for your day-to-day stuff
1. Install your custom rom which most likely requires rooting
2. Install SuperSU from the Play Store and use it to remove root completely
3. Install and activate GFE
That's it!
Hoope this helps someone else how got a little scared to have to go through scripts and stuff to do this
Using a Galaxy S4 with Carbon Rom

Anteus20 said:
Just to share a recent experience on that topic:
I wanted to have a custom rom but need GFE for my work which of course has a policy of no root with GFE.
So after a little research and useful info from this forum I figured a very simple way to do it, as long as you don't consider root as critical for your day-to-day stuff
1. Install your custom rom which most likely requires rooting
2. Install SuperSU from the Play Store and use it to remove root completely
3. Install and activate GFE
That's it!
Hoope this helps someone else how got a little scared to have to go through scripts and stuff to do this
Using a Galaxy S4 with Carbon Rom
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Does this still work?
I too need GFE on my Galaxy S4 but am sick of the poor battery life. I tried SlimKat and Google Play Edition roms, and removed root using Super SU in both cases. But GFE gives a message "Not supported for this type of Handheld". . Not sure if GFE is looking for a TW based ROM.
I will give it another go using Carbon ROM. Still, any other advice / experience on getting GFE working on a custom ROM would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

joshic75 said:
Does this still work?
I too need GFE on my Galaxy S4 but am sick of the poor battery life. I tried SlimKat and Google Play Edition roms, and removed root using Super SU in both cases. But GFE gives a message "Not supported for this type of Handheld". . Not sure if GFE is looking for a TW based ROM.
I will give it another go using Carbon ROM. Still, any other advice / experience on getting GFE working on a custom ROM would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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You quoted a 1 year old post, might be hard to get a reply. Also this is for the S1, while the app (GFE) might be the same, the ROMs definitely aren't.
That being said, chances are that the app was updated to prevent that workaround. You could flash a TW based ROM and test it though.

Thanks for the reply. I will try posting a fresh question in the Q&A thread in case anyone has more recent experience with GFE. Cheers.

joshic75 said:
Thanks for the reply. I will try posting a fresh question in the Q&A thread in case anyone has more recent experience with GFE. Cheers.
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There is an xposed module for this.

Hi, are you referring to Wanam Xposed which has a "fake official system status" functionality?
As I understand, Xposed needs root, but Good for enterprise doesn't work on a rooted handset. Can Xposed work without root?
Also Wanam Xposed is meant to work with TW based ROMs whereas I don't want to go back to TW based ROM unless it is extremely light.

joshic75 said:
Hi, are you referring to Wanam Xposed which has a "fake official system status" functionality?
As I understand, Xposed needs root, but Good for enterprise doesn't work on a rooted handset. Can Xposed work without root?
Also Wanam Xposed is meant to work with TW based ROMs whereas I don't want to go back to TW based ROM unless it is extremely light.
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I'm a bit confused here, Custom ROMs are pre-rooted. Therefor, if you're not on TW, you're rooted.
And yes, Xposed does require root. As for Wanam, I duno if it works on AOSP but best way to know is you try

Thanks for replying.
Supersu has a Full Unroot functionality which removes root.
Yes I will try, but every failed attempt sends an email to office admin so I have to be prudent.
http://www.gogadgetx.com/xposed-framework-install-use-best-modules-list/
The link above mentions that root is required while installing XPosed, but later it can perform without root. Is this correct or not?

joshic75 said:
Thanks for replying.
Supersu has a Full Unroot functionality which removes root.
Yes I will try, but every failed attempt sends an email to office admin so I have to be prudent.
http://www.gogadgetx.com/xposed-framework-install-use-best-modules-list/
The link above mentions that root is required while installing XPosed, but later it can perform without root. Is this correct or not?
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I have never personally tried it without root but you can test that fairly easily. I expect it would depend on the module you're using, some require more permissions than others.

I tried it out but it didn't work.
I have to go back to stock ROM

[Q] Rooted Nook HD+ boot problem

A question for any intellectual Android/Nook-addicts out there...
Basically, I've rooted my Nook HD+ (Numberous times now) and have experience rooting android devices in the past and have had no problems. I used the CWM method - installed universal root on factory stock (And afterwards, 2.1.0 stock just to see if it fixed the problem... it didn't) and extras (Tried not installing extras twice also, didn't make a difference)
Basically, I've learnt the hard way that eight resets on boot and the device hard-resets to factory stock. The first Root Bootup is fine (The bootup after removing the CWM sdc) and, after turning it off and on again, so is the second bootup... But the third one is where the problem occurs. I power on as normal, and the standard 'Nook' screen appears as it begins to boot...
It then proceeds to resetting itself eight times - never getting past the 'Nook' screen that appears at the start of every bootup, therefore causing a hard factory reset.
I've tried using the CWM recover method to the OS I used before rooting the nook originally, and there doesn't seem to be any problems if the device isn't rooted. I've also just let it update itself from factory version to current version - and it works fine with that also.
Perhaps this is common and I'm just a plain idiot. I honestly can't find any answers - so if it is common, sorry for wasting your time!
Thanks for your time!
- P

Do you have some apps being automatically installed by Play Store? Sometime people have their settings set so that happens. Then a root app gets installed and makes some changes to /system and causes a reset. Go to Play Store and tell it not to automatically install or upgrade apps.`
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
Do you have some apps being automatically installed by Play Store? Sometime people have their settings set so that happens. Then a root app gets installed and makes some changes to /system and causes a reset. Go to Play Store and tell it not to automatically install or upgrade apps.`
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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No apps that automatically download that i can see. But you're likely onto something - I do install all the apps manually (No matter how menial) (Going through the list, hitting install for each of them) before manually logging into each one afterwards. I do use a few root apps - no ad-versions to avoid those annoying popups, Ultrabox, Superuser, Pimp my Android and Root Browser to name most, if not all of them.
I'm going to have to do things the awkward way now, installing each app, setting them to the setting I want for them, and seeing what happens. I have a mild suspicion it's a setting on Pimp my Android...
I'll let you know if I sort it. Thanks for the suggestion :cyclops:

P Complex said:
No apps that automatically download that i can see. But you're likely onto something - I do install all the apps manually (No matter how menial) (Going through the list, hitting install for each of them) before manually logging into each one afterwards. I do use a few root apps - no ad-versions to avoid those annoying popups, Ultrabox, Superuser, Pimp my Android and Root Browser to name most, if not all of them.
I'm going to have to do things the awkward way now, installing each app, setting them to the setting I want for them, and seeing what happens. I have a mild suspicion it's a setting on Pimp my Android...
I'll let you know if I sort it. Thanks for the suggestion :cyclops:
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Why are you installing superuser? It is already installed with the universal root. That may be it too.
Edit: And some of the apps I put on there are old on purpose. Like Root Browser. I have it set so that the free version is ad free. If you update it, the ad free goes away.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

I am VERY sorry it's taken me so long to reply! Even though I've only just joined, I should have done it long before now.
I found the problem - it was 'Pimp my Android' app. I was experiencing something called 'boot loop' - so much for my research skills for such a common problem. I fiddled about with my usual settings - and found some that cause it to get stuck like that, even when they're set not to activate on startup!
Tis' all working now. Everything else seems to be just peachy! You were right, thanks for your help

HELP! ,2015 fire 7 , root RR custom rom ,google play services not working

i don't know what i did ,this tablet was working fine for 2 years with RR custom rom i used root junky tools to root and install RR custom rom,pico gaps, xposedframework ,and android custom boot animation from 5.0,1 , it was working one second and then all of a sudden the google app , gmail ,and youtube all say
" "app name" relies on google play services which is not supported by your device ,contact manufacturer "
how do i fix this and how did it happen? funny thing is that the play store still works and apps can update but i can't use any google apps
all i did was log into a secondary account and then try and install the google app which was already installed on the primary account , the google app stopped working then it worked and then it stopped again and now none of the google apps will work on either account,how do i fix this?
google play services version is 11.9.75(230-182402865)

i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working

gdroid666 said:
i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
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Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.

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Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
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ok thanks so what kind of additional problems? nothing serious like bricking right?
i do not know the difference between clean and dirty flash so how would i go about that from TWRP
i don't even remember how to get TWRP , i assume i need to get the tablet into fastboot ,i also forgot how i do that
and i may have uninstalled the clockwork mod driver from my PC not sure if i need those or not
is there a guide you can link me to on how to get the tablet into tethered TWRP and which option i need to select from it , i think i have the files i used for the initial flash somewhere i should be able to find those, the RR rom, gapps ,
super SU
also where would the backup go exactly? to an SD card? would you happen to know how much space i would need , if it goes to internal then how do i get the backup to Sd?
also what about xposed framework would that remain intact after a "dirty flash"
should i also add the xposed framework to the zip at the time of dirty flash if not or would i have to do after?
i can not remember too much about how i set this thing up and this is probably the only time i have ever used TWRP , the other 2 tablets i used FF
also could i just a dirty flash from FF? , guess i should use TWRP since i can note make a backup with FF right?
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?

gdroid666 said:
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
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Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.

Davey126 said:
Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video

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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.

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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?

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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.

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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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so what would the risk be if i were to try and side load the .APK's for the play services to try and fix it that way?
which .apk's would i need and in what order would i need to install them , is it worth a shot to try and manually install them from .apk and see hat happens?
if not and i need to do twrp route then would i install the xposed framework zip at the same time
can i flash the rom , gapps, super su , xposed, and custom boot animation zips or would i need to reboot 1st , which order would be best to line them up in TWRP to flash
also what do i do for dirty flash, ? just not wipe anything like dalvik cache? what do i wipe and not wipe?

ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?

gdroid666 said:
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.

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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues

gdroid666 said:
ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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Your non-functioning tablet does NOT have an "unlocked bootloader". It has a coding oversight that allows a custom recovery (TWRP) to be booted from fastboot. In all other respects it is identical to the other two from a capability/signature perspective.
The policy change/enforcement you reference is not the cause as Google only starting blocking access a couple weeks ago. Nor will it likely impact this device based on my interpretation of the criteria Google applies.
What to do next? Reload as previously outlined. I also recommend (rather strongly) that you consider migrating to a supported ROM. At present that's either Fire Nexus or Lineage.

ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device

gdroid666 said:
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.

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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a lot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory roms including samsung phones on N and lenovo tablets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sued for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
i can;t beleive there is no solution that is as simple as installing some .apk's

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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a slot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory rom including samsung phone on N and lenovo tabets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sues for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.

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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?

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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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- I would go with Fire Nexus + Xposed and a few select modules for maximum flexibility if seeking to mimic the RR UX
- head here for the latest developments on HD 10 platform
- nothing wrong with curated FireOS + xposed once rooted. I ran with that config for quite some time with no regrets