Hi,
The OTA Update depends on carriers?
My current carrier is MOVISTAR PERU, so when I'll unlock my phone. I will be receive the updates from motorola?
Or I won't recieve any updates from any one.
alrojas said:
Hi,
The OTA Update depends on carriers?
My current carrier is MOVISTAR PERU, so when I'll unlock my phone. I will be receive the updates from motorola?
Or I won't recieve any updates from any one.
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If you mean, unlock the bootloader..then this has NOTHING to do with carrier..unlocking the Sim..I cannot image why either..if a carrier branded device is carrier unlocked and the device remains on that same carrier, then the device will continue to receive OTA's..it's when carriers are switch with the device, is when one MAY NOT receive the OTA because of the carrier/device relationship...
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NWKENT said:
If you mean, unlock the bootloader..then this has NOTHING to do with carrier..unlocking the Sim..I cannot image why either..if a carrier branded device is carrier unlocked and the device remains on that same carrier, then the device will continue to receive OTA's..it's when carriers are switch with the device, is when one MAY NOT receive the OTA because of the carrier/device relationship...
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XT912 Droid RAZR Maxx
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The carrier doesn't matter. The BL being unlocked doesn't matter.
Ota updates always come from Motorola, never the carrier. Even an unactivated phone with no Sim/carrier will still continue to receive ota updates if connected to Wi-Fi.
Dear All,
I have recently bought a used Moto X (AT&T) unlocked. Current system version is 140.44.5.ghost_att.ATT.en.US. My question is will updating cause it to carrier lock again??. Because it has downloaded an update and it keeps notifying. The downloaded update version 165.44.1.en.US. I am afraid if i update my sim won't work. So anybody has experience regarding this.
Thanks
meernabeel said:
Dear All,
I have recently bought a used Moto X (AT&T) unlocked. Current system version is 140.44.5.ghost_att.ATT.en.US. My question is will updating cause it to carrier lock again??. Because it has downloaded an update and it keeps notifying. The downloaded update version 165.44.1.en.US. I am afraid if i update my sim won't work. So anybody has experience regarding this.
Thanks
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i have a factory unlocked xt1058 att an i have done multiple ota's and and its still unlocked, if its factory unlocked there should not be an issue, if its some other hack you have applied i cant comment, hope this was helpful.
hugh a said:
i have a factory unlocked xt1058 att an i have done multiple ota's and and its still unlocked, if its factory unlocked there should not be an issue, if its some other hack you have applied i cant comment, hope this was helpful.
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I haven't applied any hack yet. I bought it used "unlocked". It has an AT&T logo on the back so it was locked to AT&T before. Now if i perform an OTA update.. will it get sim locked again. I do not mean or care for root. Just my sim should work. I hope i have explained well.
meernabeel said:
I haven't applied any hack yet. I bought it used "unlocked". It has an AT&T logo on the back so it was locked to AT&T before. Now if i perform an OTA update.. will it get sim locked again. I do not mean or care for root. Just my sim should work. I hope i have explained well.
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So, I went on and performed the OTA update anyways and its all good. The sim still works. The phone did not lock again.
meernabeel said:
So, I went on and performed the OTA update anyways and its all good. The sim still works. The phone did not lock again.
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good deal!
Once it is carrier unlocked, it will always be that way.
meernabeel said:
So, I went on and performed the OTA update anyways and its all good. The sim still works. The phone did not lock again.
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Sir to make this clear for you let me guide you through what sim unlock is: A Sim Unlock is performed over Cellular networks.. It does not have any I repeat ANY concern with the software of your mobile phone. When you unlock your sim through an unlock code the IMEI of your phone gets registered over Cellular networks so in easy words The unlock happens in air not on your phone. So whatever you do with your phone you will never ever be sim locked again because the IMEI of your phone has been registered permanently on the network when you unlocked the sim before. So feel free to do any kind of thing on your phone dont hesitate .
I got my nexus 6 from Google and am using Cricket as my cell provider. From what I gathered carriers are handling the ota's? So I went ahead and decided to sideload a 5.1 update.zip that came from At&t because I didn't want to unlock my bootloader and Cricket doesn't seem to be sending out updates. It works but my carrier is reading as At&t instead of Cricket in which I suspect because its a At&t ota. I want to go back to it saying Cricket instead so I was wondering if I was to just go ahead and flash the update from google's webpage and unlock my bootloader will I be back to stock (the one that it came with from google) and have my right carrier logo be shown? Also I wanted to relock my bootloader so I just need to follow the steps seen in the forums in order to do so? Thanks for your help!
ed12435 said:
I got my nexus 6 from Google and am using Cricket as my cell provider. From what I gathered carriers are handling the ota's? So I went ahead and decided to sideload a 5.1 update.zip that came from At&t because I didn't want to unlock my bootloader and Cricket doesn't seem to be sending out updates. It works but my carrier is reading as At&t instead of Cricket in which I suspect because its a At&t ota. I want to go back to it saying Cricket instead so I was wondering if I was to just go ahead and flash the update from google's webpage and unlock my bootloader will I be back to stock (the one that it came with from google) and have my right carrier logo be shown? Also I wanted to relock my bootloader so I just need to follow the steps seen in the forums in order to do so? Thanks for your help!
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google sends out all otas, not carriers. carriers have nothing to do with it. its when you put in your sim card, that the rom knows whatvyou are using. you can use any of the factory images, and any if them will work on any carrier. yours says att because cricket is using atts lines.
That's what I figured, the only thing that is bugging me about it is that my friend who is using cricket also next to me is using a nexus 5 and cricket as well and there's is showing up as cricket. I don't get how mine is connecting to At&t and theirs not. I may need to redo my apns perhaps? Thanks for your help
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That's what I figured, the only thing that is bugging me about it is that my friend who is using cricket also next to me is using a nexus 5 and cricket as well and there's is showing up as cricket. I don't get how mine is connecting to At&t and theirs not. I may need to redo my apns perhaps? Thanks for your help
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if att isnt billing you, but cricket is, i wouldnt even worry about it. it is a cricket sim, right? it could just be a lollipop bug thats showing you the network instead of your provider.
Problem solved
I unlocked my bootloader, then manually installed the stock 5.1 update following a guide found in the forums. Afterwards I relocked my bootloader ( I like the added security) following another guide in the forums and sure enough the cricket logo is back. I guess sideloading the At&t update made the phone think it was running through At&t radio's? Throughout the day I started to notice problems with my phone thinking it was on At&t's network (idk why) but now everything is working well and even getting a stronger signal. I didn't receive the 5.1 update in over a month and figured somehow it didn't get pushed to me. Either way I'll probably wait awhile longer next time to see if I get 5.1.1 (or whatever the next update will be for the Nexus 6) pushed to me once its released. Thanks for all your help, hopefully if anyone using a Nexus 6 on cricket runs into this problem it will help.
Sorry, i'm not sure how the OTA's work on the Nexus devices, so I have to ask (and haven't found the right discussions which talk about this)...
I have an ATT branded Nexus 6 which has been bootloader unlocked, OEM partition wiped, and flashed with the "for T-Mobile" LYZ28J image. I am using a Verizon SIM in it.
Since there are posts of T-Mobile pushing LYZ28K I was wondering, will get get this OTA? if so when (i.e. does it it matter than I have a Verizon SIM in there when it comes to OTA's? Or do I manually need to load it?
It doesnt matter that it has a vzw sim in it. If youre stock, you may get it, and you can apply it - but when? Nobody can tell you that, you'll get it when you get it.
If you are waiting for Tmo specific firmware on VZW service, that isn't going to happen - you'll never get that since...well...you dont have TMo service...
Lol what's the reason behind an AT&T branded phone with T-Mobile Rom and Verizon sim? Personally I would just manually do it, like the dude with the hilarious name above me said you may get it you may not. If you want it just go manual.
^^ exactly.
Thats what I've always done - if i want it (and since I'm never stock) I have to manually flash the firmware, make my own no-enforced encryption boot.img (kudos to the kitchen) flash that, and start all over.
Thats how it is, I'm used to it. OTA are too slow, IMO, anyway.
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I use this name universally online - any forum you see it, XBL, GitHub, reddit... it's me. lol
The Stig 04 said:
Lol what's the reason behind an AT&T branded phone with T-Mobile Rom and Verizon sim?
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Long story short... its a work supplied device. I asked for unlocked/unbranded and got the ATT branded (but sim unlocked). My primary work line is Verizon, backup/test line is T-MO.
We have others that will likely be in the same boat (ATT branded, sim unlocked, but using other provider).. who are not techie. So rather than flashing or side loading the OTA (which I easily could), I'm waiting to see what happens.
I'm more curious *IF* I should get the update in this state. and if the mix of rom vs sim might cause any delays/issues.
Bottom Line. Verizon and ATT don't usually OTA for 3 months after update release. Once the factory image for Sprint, USC, International drops you can fastboot flash that They gonna use the same and it will work. T-Mobile and FI work better with their drop just because of WiFi calling.
I'd say that because you're using VZW service, it makes absolutely no difference what branding the phone has and doesn't matter what carrier it was purchased for.
If it uses VZW service, you'll only get OTAs that are for that service. You won't get Tmo specific OTAs for a device being used on VZW - when the OTAs are pushed out they are done so by the service the device is registered as using. I don't think you would ever get said OTAs since the device wouldn't need them.
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I'd say that because you're using VZW service, it makes absolutely no difference what branding the phone has and doesn't matter what carrier it was purchased for.
If it uses VZW service, you'll only get OTAs that are for that service. You won't get Tmo specific OTAs for a device being used on VZW - when the OTAs are pushed out they are done so by the service the device is registered as using. I don't think you would ever get said OTAs since the device wouldn't need them.
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Thank you. And that is what I'm thinking, and why I'm asking... because I'd also seen talk about the SIM in the Nexus 6, or the carrier the phone is on, impacting some of the Nexus 6 updates in the past.
But I also remember my Sister-In-Law using an XT1053 on ATT, who did get XT1053 updates.. SO I wasn't completely sure how the nexus updates worked.
Yes. If leave the sim in will get the Verizon OK'd OTA. That has been up to 3 months after the image was posted. Either remove sim and try to force OTA from Google or manually flash the image. We end up always manually flashing due to having root.. 3-5 minutes tops.
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It doesnt matter that it has a vzw sim in it.
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That's not accurate.. On every other android phone it is accurate but not in the nexus 6.
Usually with a GSM phone, the update is pushed by the oem and your current build determined which update you got.. For example, my Three UK s3 would get the Three UK branded rom update. Even if I had an O2 UK sim in it.. If I then flashed a Vodafone UK rom, I would then get those updates.
With the nexus 6 though, this has changed.. For Verizon and T-mobile users, Google now uses the sim to identify which update to get.. They both were sent with an unbranded stock rom then later on, depending on the simcard, got either a t-mob or vzw update.
The problem is though, that each update will only install on a specified build.. So a vzw update will never install on a t-mob rom or vice versa, so it does matter if the build is one carrier and the sim is another as it will never get an update.
That's what I meant, I probably should have worded that differently.
I meant that even though it is using Verizon service you only get updates for Verizon service. If it's branded for X carrier that won't matter - the service its using is what you'll get updates for.
I apologize about that that was a poor choice of wording on my part.
And just an update.... tonight, I got prompted for a 28meg update. After the update I'm on LYZ28K.
So I guess to answer my own question...
Yes, an ATT Branded Nexus 6 flashed T-Mobile ROM with VZW SIM installed will get updated, and stay on the T-Mobile rom.
That is good.
KidJoe said:
And just an update.... tonight, I got prompted for a 28meg update. After the update I'm on LYZ28K.
So I guess to answer my own question...
Yes, an ATT Branded Nexus 6 flashed T-Mobile ROM with VZW SIM installed will get updated, and stay on the T-Mobile rom.
That is good.
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Should get the Verizon/ATT (Generic ) rom if have Verizon sim. Hopefully you unlocked before taking update. If locked and it bootloops your only option is RTA.
prdog1 said:
Should get the Verizon/ATT (Generic ) rom if have Verizon sim. Hopefully you unlocked before taking update. If locked and it bootloops your only option is RTA.
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Yup. I unlocked. Actually when I got it, I unlocked it, rooted, cleared the OEM partition (backed it up first), then flashed the T-Mobile rom.... and left it unlocked (but not rooted since I'm using for work)