Nexus 5/Kit Kat disappointments - Nexus 5 General

Coming from the Nexus 4, which I loved and Jelly Bean, I just received my Nexus 5 yesterday and have some disappointments. Let me know if you guys agree and if I'm overlooking anything and can fix.
1 FIXED - Ok, Google sucks at making home screen launchers, apparently. I have to use an aftermarket app for my home screen) I LOVE Google Now. I used it quite a bit on my Nexus 4 by holding the home button and swiping up. Now they made it so Google Now is locked on the left side. WTF? I loved having my "home" screen in the middle, with two screens on the left and two on the right. I had a Trip It widget and Keep widget on the left, each on their own screen. I had some other often used apps on the right and my Calendar widget each on their own on the right. No screen was more than two swipes away. Now I have to swipe 4 screens to the right to get to my last one. That sucks. I can turn Google Now off to get my screens back, but then I don't have Google Now at all. This sucks, Google. What are you thinking?
2) I thought it made total sense to have the Play Store link right above the apps in the app drawer. When someone would ask, "do you have XXXX app?" I'd look and if I didn't, I could touch right there to enter the Play Store and download. Now, I have to scroll to find the Play Store app icon. Or put it on one of my screens. This seems like they're going backward here. Why remove that? To make it prettier? Aesthetics over functionality.
3 FIXED!) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
4) Speaking of rearranged keyboard layouts, why change it up? I was pretty used to my Jelly Bean keyboard. Now they rearranged the exclamation point to the other side. And maybe others. I can't recall exactly until I start texting and hit a wrong key, pressing something which used to be another symbol. I'll eventually get used to that, but why change it? It was fine as it was.
5) HUGE icons. Why? To look my iPhone(ish)? Jelly Bean had 5 rows of 5. Now we get huge icons and 5 rows of 4. Not a huge deal, but if you have a bunch of apps, it takes longer to scroll through them all and you can't fit as many of your most used on one screen.
6) I love the home screen rotate on my Nexus 7. Google never thought to add this to the Nexus 4. And now it's not on the Nexus 5 either. I've used an app called "Rotate" to perform this and loved it, but now that Kit Kat extends the background to show behind the toolbars (which I love the look of, by the way), when I use "Rotate" to flip the home screen when I hold the phone horizontally, that black bar shows on the right. Again, not a huge problem here and maybe Rotate will update to a Kit Kat compatible version, but why doesn't Google add this functionality out of the box for its Nexus phones when they do it for the Nexus 7?
7) The notification sounds seem even quieter than the Nexus 4, which wasn't the loudest ever. I always turn vibrate on text OFF so when I'm texting back and forth, it's not unnecessarily wasting battery. But in doing so, I could most times hear my Nexus 4 chime when in my pocket. Not with the 5. I find myself pulling it out of my pocket every 15 mins to see if I missed any calls, emails or texts. I guess I'll have to turn on the notification vibration and sacrifice battery life, but that's lame.
If I'm overlooking anything which fixes any of these, please advise!

Oh well.
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I have similar disappointments. Mainly the lack of the store in the top of the app drawer.
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torranceeric said:
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3) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
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The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?

It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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That's what I was hoping I did by accident, but I can't see where I would have. In settings > language & input > google keyboard settings, I have the
"voice input key" checked. I assumed that's what I need. I unchecked it, looked and the mic wasn't there. I re-checked it, looked and the mic isn't there. What am I overlooking?
jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing

I seriously don't want to man. I loved the Nexus 4 and was SO excited with this. But when you're used to things and they change for the worse (my opinion, things that are USEFUL to me), it's more than annoying, it's a real issue. 1, 2, 3 and 7 are all big deals to me. 1 - It makes the phone less simple. Most actions needed to get to what I use. 2 - same as 1, more steps needed to get to the Play Store. 3 - hopefully I'm overlooking something, but speaking my texts to my phone saved me A LOT of texting time. 7 - a ****ty speaker means I can't hear maps directions and have to look down at my phone more. That's not something I'm just trying to find an issue with, it's a real issue.
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It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
Synyster06Gates said:
Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...

Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.

I don't use Samsung products because I hate Touch Wiz and all the other bloatware on it. Yeah, I know it can be unlocked and modded, but I don't get into all of that. I came from an EVO 4G and liked it a lot, but once I got my Nexus 4, I could never go back to a phone with HTC Sense. The speaker was far better on the EVO though than the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5, to me, seems even quieter.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
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I kinda do agree with you on 1). I felt uncomfortable when first started to use Nexus 5 because I had a similar screens setup to yours on S4.
But I've changed my habits pretty quickly. Although I'm only using Calendar widget that occupies whole screen and one more screen (apart from home) for apps.

Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!

Yep. It's going backward in features. That was useful as hell. If you never used it, ok, but give me something to make things easier, I get used to it and dig it. Take it away and I'm annoyed. Why take it away? It reminds me of the "new" Google Maps. They took away a few features that I LOVED.
I'm tied into Google. I use a lot of their offerings. But I'm not going to blindly defend everything they throw out, I'm going to honestly say what I like and dislike.
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Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
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[email protected] said:
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
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This. FFS stop complaining. Before long people are gonna start saying you're apple fan boys posting to start drama.
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Can I have your Nexus 5 then?

Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else.
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torranceeric said:
Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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Nova Launcher

I'm actually considering going back to my Nexus 4 and selling this. Obviously, I won't be jumping to Kit Kat when it's available on the N4.
But this is why I post - maybe there are fixes.
And guys, aren't these forums about helping? No, I don't use Apple products. Nothing against 'em, but I'm tied into Google and don't care to switch. I just loved most everything about my Nexus 4 and was hoping to love the 5 even more.
M4dRefluX said:
Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
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Related

8pen?

Has anyone had any luck with this? When I try it, it doesn't input any text. I've chosen the correct input method, set the keyboard, etc. No luck. How about you guys?
Too bad they want money for it.
It took me like 5 while minutes to figure it out. You will get it, just read the instructions a few times
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Too bad they want money for it.
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They should've released a beta or something and then a couple months later start charging for it. This way people will get used to using the board and want to buy it. Like what SwiftKey did. I don't think the curiosity factor, alone, is enough for people to buy it. Especially since you can uninstall it in 24 hours to get a full refund.
It seems like a joke app to me. Hey lets make some ridiculous new way to enter text. People like swype, so they'll probably like anything weird and different.... but on the off chance no one likes it - lets make a pay only version - so people pay for it before they realize it actually sucks.
maybe that's just me being cynical - but swype is genuinely novel. I fail to see how this is better then the stock keyboard.
Google 8pen apk
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Google 8pen apk
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Obviously, but keep that to yourself. No one needs the trouble here from spreading that around.
So I tried 8pen. I'm actually typing this using it. I don't see it ever being as fast as swype but I can definitely see its usefullness with one hand typing and not being able to look at the screen. But the amount of time you'd have to spend memorizing all the patterns to the point you don't have to look at what you're doing would be insane.
I like it. All you have to do is memorize where the letters are, same as a normal keyboard. It seems plenty fast to me. There are a few glitches in the auto complete and some other things but overall it is a good alternative to a tiny keyboard if that is what you need or are looking for.
Any idea why I can't find this in the market? When I search there are no results. I can't find Swype in the market either.
I never can find Swype in the market either but 8pen comes up fine, maybe wait a day and look again.
I do kind of like the visible pop up it has now, but its still nowhere near as fast as my stock Sense keyboard. Then again, I can almost totally type one-handed and blind, so there you go. Now that its free, I say go get it and play with it,can't hurt.
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swype is not generally available, so it's not in the market for any phone.
its still in beta (seems perpetually), and only comes pre-installed on some phones.
I'm using 8pen now and I really like it. I have these massive dumb hands and I could never get the hang of typing with those tiny keys. It works a dream for me. Even if it is a "novelty."
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Switftkey Beta X

My goodness, has anyone used this yet? This is the most impressive keyboard I've ever experienced. After tinkering around with the settings and allowing it to "learn" my typing style, I have never made a typo, and I type fast.
Anyone who remembers me from the past will know I'm very critical of the Android stock keyboard (and of alternative keyboards too, including Swiftkey) and that the typing experience has been a real thorn to my Android experience.
All that is gone. Anyone else using Swiftkey X? The improvements are astronomical.
Swiftkey X is outstanding, been using it since it was free.
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Words cannot describe how amazing this keyboard is. I downloaded the trial version today and will most definitely buy the full version.
The first thing I do with keyboards is type like a madman just to see how many mistakes I would make and to my huge surprise, Swiftkey made no mistakes whatsoever.
The only downside is the lack of themes, but then again, I'm using the free trial version so I hope the full version will have more to choose from.
Yea I definitely love SwiftKey, I too have been using it for a long time.
If anyone is interested here are some themes for it. Idk if they work on the most recent update but they work on the 2.0.5.153 version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016053
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The only quibble I have seen so far with Swift Key X is that... for whatever reason, it seems to inadvertently register the space bar twice sometimes, resulting in unwanted periods.
So an example sentence would look something like this: "Hey John how's it. Going?" When it should look like "Hey John how's it going?"
Is this happening to anyone else using the keyboard? I have my space bar settings as Spacebar Will Always Complete Word, and I have the Quick "." turned on.
Lol I remember you and your constant keyboard woes. I tried SwiftKey a few weeks ago but had a lot of issues including the double space thing. But after reading your rave reviews I just tried it again. God DAMN its massively better. I'm going to switch back to it full time now. Thanks for the heads up!
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kenvan19 said:
Lol I remember you and your constant keyboard woes. I tried SwiftKey a few weeks ago but had a lot of issues including the double space thing. But after reading your rave reviews I just tried it again. God DAMN its massively better. I'm going to switch back to it full time now. Thanks for the heads up!
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Hey Kenvan, I remember you too. Long time.
Tell me if you experience inadvertent periods in the middle of sentences when you type fast on Swiftkey Beta X. -_-'
onthecouchagain said:
The only quibble I have seen so far with Swift Key X is that... for whatever reason, it seems to inadvertently register the space bar twice sometimes, resulting in unwanted periods.
So an example sentence would look something like this: "Hey John how's it. Going?" When it should look like "Hey John how's it going?"
Is this happening to anyone else using the keyboard? I have my space bar settings as Spacebar Will Always Complete Word, and I have the Quick "." turned on.
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i already bought this keyboard, worth every penny.
onthecouchagain said:
My goodness, has anyone used this yet? This is the most impressive keyboard I've ever experienced. After tinkering around with the settings and allowing it to "learn" my typing style, I have never made a typo, and I type fast.
Anyone who remembers me from the past will know I'm very critical of the Android stock keyboard (and of alternative keyboards too, including Swiftkey) and that the typing experience has been a real thorn to my Android experience.
All that is gone. Anyone else using Swiftkey X? The improvements are astronomical.
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Of course we remember
I could have sworn you said you tried swiftkey back then too, but I guess not this latest version. Anyway, I'm glad you've found a acceptable keyboard solution.
yup swiftkey is really the best thing ever. the only thing still missing is the ability to learn from whatsapp typing patterns, but i think they also seem to have the best word correction, so prediction is less of an issue.
onthecouchagain said:
Hey Kenvan, I remember you too. Long time.
Tell me if you experience inadvertent periods in the middle of sentences when you type fast on Swiftkey Beta X. -_-'
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Yup I get that too, plus a lot of accidental caps. I think its just a learning curve issue since I've been using the stock android one for so long my fingers keep hitting places they shouldn't.
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Yup I get that too, plus a lot of accidental caps. I think its just a learning curve issue since I've been using the stock android one for so long my fingers keep hitting places they shouldn't.
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Strange. After I changed the Typing Style setting to "Precise" instead of "Rapid" which I thought would serve my faster typing style best, the inadvertent periods in the middle of sentences have occurred less. Though it's still popping up. It's becoming quite problematic. I'm getting sentences that look like this: "Hey I'm. On my. Way. To. You now." I kid you not, it gets that bad sometimes.
=T
Ya its rather frustrating. Also, I'm rather unimpressed by the selection of skins. I have a blue theme on my phone that doesn't really match the bright neon blue nor does it fit with the neon green and I don't like how plain the HTC IME skin is...
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Ya its rather frustrating. Also, I'm rather unimpressed by the selection of skins. I have a blue theme on my phone that doesn't really match the bright neon blue nor does it fit with the neon green and I don't like how plain the HTC IME skin is...
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Yeah, agreed. The lack of skins is disappointing. Frankly, all three skins are hideous. I'm using the classic white one for now.
Anyway, I've started a thread over at the Swiftkey Beta X forums: http://vip.swiftkey.net/index.php?/forum/88-discussion-phone-x/
You can't miss it. It's titled "Inadvertent Periods in Middle of Sentences." Chime in if any of y'all are experiencing this odd glitch too.
It's becoming more and more common. Like every other sentence will have inadvertent periods. Frustrating, and sad after I finally found a keyboard that could keep up with my thumbing speed. :[
The only solution now is to turn off Quick "." but that is not ideal. Hitting the period button to add a period at the end of sentences is awfully cumbersome. CORRECTION: It seems even after turning off Quick "." the inadvertent periods still happen. It's incredibly baffling!
So one person suggested that I'm hitting the period button when typing fast instead of the spacebar. This is may be the culprit! >__<
However, I'm still experiencing some odd double letter glitches, and it seems people over at the Swiftkey Beta X forum are as well. It's already a reported bug. This double-letter glitch seems to really plague a lot of Android keyboards; I wonder why. =T
Haha that's what I was implying but I suppose I should have been more clear. It's an adjustment to such a short space bar.
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Swiftkey X is free on getjar right now. I have been using swiftkey for a long time and it is without doubt the best!
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Anybody know how save swiftkey x data, like a manual back up?
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info[]box1 said:
Anybody know how save swiftkey x data, like a manual back up?
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Latest version of titanium backup does this.
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festo702 said:
Swiftkey X is free on getjar right now. I have been using swiftkey for a long time and it is without doubt the best!
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How does GetJar work? How come they can give out apps for free? What's the catch?

[Q] Bitesms replacement

hello fellas, finally got my lg thrill, coming over from an iphone 3gs. i was wondering thoughts on sms replacement app? i was suing bitesms with my iphone and it did everything i needed. any good suggestions for an android replacement app?
Handsent is pretty cool. But I prefer the stock SMS app.
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taytay209 said:
Handsent is pretty cool. But I prefer the stock SMS app.
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thanks i'll check it out
taytay209 said:
Handsent is pretty cool. But I prefer the stock SMS app.
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I prefer the stock app too.. It's simple and the app look doesn't look so bad either lol
waxworkz said:
hello fellas, finally got my lg thrill, coming over from an iphone 3gs. i was wondering thoughts on sms replacement app? i was suing bitesms with my iphone and it did everything i needed. any good suggestions for an android replacement app?
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GoSms pro (its free, dont let the pro fool you). It can be setup to mimick the iphone ui (bubbles) or set up to mimick the stock sms ui (list). But my favorite feature is that it has an option to stay locked in memory so that it opens instantly when you need it. That feature to me is what seperates it from the rest of the sms apps out there.
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GoSms pro (its free, dont let the pro fool you). It can be setup to mimick the iphone ui (bubbles) or set up to mimick the stock sms ui (list). But my favorite feature is that it has an option to stay locked in memory so that it opens instantly when you need it. That feature to me is what seperates it from the rest of the sms apps out there.
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I like GoSMS as well but am unfamiliar with that feature. I've just browsed through all the settings and didn't see it. Where's it and and whats it called?
EDIT: so I found an option that allows it to "run persistently" which is probably what your talking about. Mine's always been enabled and it still takes a second to launch every time I use it. I guess it would take longer if it was disabled. Having said that I used Handcent for a while and it was 10x faster, just uglier and didn't have an option to disable native SMS notifications so I was getting double notification even if I went and turned off notification in the native SMS app. I can handle a second delay when opening Go over the drawbacks of Handcent.
Ok looks like I have a few options to look at. Now to get my mind to want to keep the droid over the iPhone. I'm finding it a bit strange to get used to
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Ok looks like I have a few options to look at. Now to get my mind to want to keep the droid over the iPhone. I'm finding it a bit strange to get used to
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I came from an iPhone as well. Give it a few days, or weeks. It takes a bit to get used to the Android but when you do there are things I wouldn't trade for the world.
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I came from an iPhone as well. Give it a few days, or weeks. It takes a bit to get used to the Android but when you do there are things I wouldn't trade for the world.
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Such as?
I just have gotten so used to the feel of my iPhone over the last 3 years. I'm thinking I'll give it a week or so as I have 30 to return it. Just seems clumsy the way things are set up. I don't have a dock for more than 4 apps, it doesn't open to an apps screen, I have to scroll for them. Finally figured out how to turn off the key pd vibrate thing. That was annoying me to death.
You might want to give ADW launcher a try. It has a dock feature aswell as a page style app menu. Where you can slide the page of apps left to right. YouTube should have a demo of it in action. Its a very personalizable Launcher. You can even get a apple theme for it.
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Such as?
I just have gotten so used to the feel of my iPhone over the last 3 years. I'm thinking I'll give it a week or so as I have 30 to return it. Just seems clumsy the way things are set up. I don't have a dock for more than 4 apps, it doesn't open to an apps screen, I have to scroll for them. Finally figured out how to turn off the key pd vibrate thing. That was annoying me to death.
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Thats one of the great things about android, you can make it look and function however you want. Youre not stuck with the the way the phone comes. I cant stand the stock lg launcher either but there are tons of replacements out there.
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[Q] Air view on HTC One

I was reading that the Galaxy uses its Infrared technology for its Air View application, does anyone know if we would be able to utilize Air View on the HTC One or if there is an similar application?
derrick8 said:
I was reading that the Galaxy uses its Infrared technology for its Air View application, does anyone know if we would be able to utilize Air View on the HTC One or if there is an similar application?
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What does it do?
It has another sensor up front for that purpose I believe
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What does it do?
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It uses sort of a hands free function: you can use your hand as a wave gesture to swipe pages horizontal/vertically, it has a feature that if you look away from a video it will automatically pause, etc.
Sounds like a useless gimmick. My Evo 3D had an overly sensitive screen, didn't always have to touch the screen, just be close, and it detected touch. It was pretty annoying.
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Sounds like a useless gimmick. My Evo 3D had an overly sensitive screen, didn't always have to touch the screen, just be close, and it detected touch. It was pretty annoying.
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Really, I didnt get the Evo 3D so never had the option of that software, man these commercials really make certain apps look brillant
derrick8 said:
Really, I didnt get the Evo 3D so never had the option of that software, man these commercials really make certain apps look brillant
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Lol it was more of a flaw... It was never intended to be like that but it would randomly register touches from your finger before you touched the screen.
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It uses sort of a hands free function: you can use your hand as a wave gesture to swipe pages horizontal/vertically, it has a feature that if you look away from a video it will automatically pause, etc.
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If it did you wouldn't want it. The accuracy required to make these gestures reliable is way beyond the technology the S4 has in it, which is why reviewers say it's a gimmick. It either triggers when you don't want it, or doesn't when you do. You'd need something like a Kinect strapped to the top of your phone to really pull that off. The battery drain alone would be devastating.
Add in it likely won't function on any ported ROM or new versions of android. It will be very similar to the 3D where the drivers and other needed stuff won't be available to make it work. One reason I avoided Samsung.
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the S4 has a specific sensor just to the right of the earpiece speaker for the air gestures. its not as accurate as they make it seem just like the eye tracking isnt very good either. like previously stated its a gimmick. your average consumer is WOWED by stupid crap like that. i felt like an idiot swiping my hand in front of the phone and when using eye scrolling you have to physically tilt your head up and down. all the phone is doing is tracking the movement of your head and using your eyes as a focal point to base amount of movement off of. not to mention you cant be more than a foot or two from the sensor. if you wear glasses like me its really a pain. i guess the reflection in the lenses of the glasses makes it react funny. ive only played with the s4 for a couple days when ive been at my store but all in all im not impressed. im wondering if it will gradually learn your personal body movements and become more accurate. it seems like they took an S3 made the viewing area slightly bigger, new camera, and stupid gesture sensor. if it worked as well as Tony Starks stuff it might be worth playing with lol. even then though its not practical its just something that looks neat when you can get it to work. you can also use Svoice from the lock screen so say you name your phone then hold home key say name so svoice will launch then you say name again to start a command. the ability to launch from lock screen makes me wonder if it will have security issues like the S3 did. i also feel like me having to address the device twice in a row is dumb. i should say "S4 call ...." or "S4 launch ...." not say "s4" wait for svoice "S4 call...." or "S4" wait a few secs "S4 launch...." again i felt like an idiot standing there making swipes and repeatedly saying "S4..." thats just what i named the one at our store. i like google now bc i launch it then say "google" it beeps i say "search target.com for..." and it goes. i wish it worked better as a launcher for apps or taking appointments, sending emails, texts, ect.. i will say svoice has that going for it.
in the end im still holding out for black 64gb HTC One. im getting ready to make a sacrifice to cellphone gods if i dont hear something official soon.
xanmanz31 said:
i wish it worked better as a launcher for apps or taking appointments, sending emails, texts, ect.. i will say svoice has that going for it.
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Google Now can do all of those things.
Seems like more of a headache than it's worth trying to get it on the HTC One.

Glass Home on Gear with null ROM

Hey folks,
I thought it would be interesting to see whether the Glass Home launcher and its companion apps would work on the Gear - FYI the APKs I'm playing with are the XE7 ones at zhuowei's github site, although I note that Google have now posted the XE11 image at developers.google.com/glass/tools-downloads/system
I was pleasantly surprised to find that the launcher loaded up, recognised my "ok glass" voice command, and managed to go off and do the right thing when I asked it to "google how tall is the eiffel tower?"
However it seems to be unhappy about a few things (lots of FCs) - in particular the lack of WiFi on the Gear, believing that the device is offline even when it's actually tethered to my phone via Bluetooth, and the camera didn't work for me.
Anyone else got "Glass on Gear" experiences to share?
Cheers,
Martin
Good idea. Will be interesting to find out what needs to done
I do however feel my watch is a lot more useful than Glass (apart from lack of gps/wifi)
Provide some links I want to see this launcher etc.
Sorry, I'm a newbie so my ability to post links is somewhat limited. Let's see if this works... github.com/zhuowei/Xenologer
I think it's going to be a great way of getting a forward look at what to expect with Glass - and the Nexus watch And heck, we may well have the proper Glass SDK before Samsung release one for the Gear...
The UI is reasonably navigable using voice and swiping the touch screen. The Glass fonts work well on the small screen size, unlike say stock Android apps running under Nova or the Google Experience Launcher. Glass Home doesn't know about your non-Glass apps, though, which is understandable if a little disappointing.
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I think it's going to be a great way of getting a forward look at what to expect with Glass - and the Nexus watch And heck, we may well have the proper Glass SDK before Samsung release one for the Gear...
The UI is reasonably navigable using voice and swiping the touch screen. The Glass fonts work well on the small screen size, unlike say stock Android apps running under Nova or the Google Experience Launcher. Glass Home doesn't know about your non-Glass apps, though, which is understandable if a little disappointing.
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Quite interesting.. Im interested mainly in the contacts app.. Going to give it a whirl.
EDIT: Sadly didnt work as I hoped, no launcher icon.. when I manually run the intent just crashes.. BOO !
The launcher on the otherhand could be interesting.,,
Contact handling on glass is weird. You need contacts in your gmail account, then need to add individual contact to glass manually via app/website
Brendo said:
Contact handling on glass is weird. You need contacts in your gmail account, then need to add individual contact to glass manually via app/website
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Oh.. Yikes.
Staying away from that !
I'm working on poking through the Glass launcher and companion files to see if I can find anything. I tried to change the DPI so all of the text fits on the display because it cuts off most of the text, but it doesn't seem to cooperate.
Video demo of Glass on Gear
And here's a nice little video (1 minute) that I made demonstrating the Glass launcher on the Gear:
You can also read a bit more about my experiences hacking around on the Galaxy Gear on my blog at martinh dot net.
Happy hacking!
That is awesome.
martin_hamilton said:
And here's a nice little video (1 minute) that I made demonstrating the Glass launcher on the Gear:
You can also read a bit more about my experiences hacking around on the Galaxy Gear on my blog at martinh dot net.
Happy hacking!
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263 views 2 likes? How is this not blowing up?
jamen said:
263 views 2 likes? How is this not blowing up?
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The idea is excellent, although there's other factors to consider.. tethering always being active is going to be a battery drainer, along with the launcher constantly listening for commands..
Interesting thread... Looking forward to more updates on this... If I can get Google Now to work on this device paired without rooting the phone, Google Glass sounds pretty darn cool
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It's also a bit clunky in that you have to swipe down to go back to the "ok glass" prompt, unless there is a voice shortcut that I've missed. It would be great to go totally handsfree with this, but shaking your wrist doesn't have an analogous effect to nodding your head when wearing Glass.
Oh, and the Bluetooth tethering is a bit flaky and tends to come unstuck after you have done three or four searches - going to look into the automatic reconnection thread when I get a few spare cycles
bogdi1988 said:
Interesting thread... Looking forward to more updates on this... If I can get Google Now to work on this device paired without rooting the phone, Google Glass sounds pretty darn cool
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You can run the Google Experience Launcher from Kit-Kat, which will give you the "leftmost home screen is Google Now" feature. If you choose US language and download the offline speech recognition pack then you should find that the mic is permanently active too
Does that still allow me to get notifications pushed to the watch?
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I am going to be testing glass with a bare bones rom now. Hopefully it will be nice
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Cant get it to work at all
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Me neither
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Nice work!
The only way to go back using glass is to swipe down
Sounds like motion sensors are handled differently on each device (possibly Samsung propriety on the gear?)
What settings are shown in the settings screen? Is it only 'google' phrase that works? I think take picture and record are default on glass without need for app. Contact related stuff requires adding manually via app

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