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Guys,
I have a question. I am in the market for upgrading my Motorola Photon. Its right timing for Motorola to launch Moto X. I am currently with Sprint but I may switch to Straight Talk soon.
If I buy Off contract Moto X on Sprint, can I use it on Stright Talk?
Thank you.
No.
ohwut said:
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Why not? Doesn't the Moto X support LTE bands that AT&T and Straight Talk uses? It also has SIM card slot right?
Anybody here who can help?
infomadness said:
Why not? Doesn't the Moto X support LTE bands that AT&T and Straight Talk uses? It also has SIM card slot right?
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Not LTE, just HSPA+. It will work fine, just not with LTE.
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Not LTE, just HSPA+. It will work fine, just not with LTE.
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Are you sure Sprint Moto X will work? I thought sprint locks their Moto X's?
It‘s sim locked
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Lazybox said:
It‘s sim locked
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Does anyone know how the sim lock actually works? I have bought new Sprint Moto X recently from ebay. I live in Europe and the phone wasn't activated yet. I can't use any local sim, but what's strange is that I have called to Sprint support and don't have my phone's IMEI in their DB, so I suspect that the lock is just a software lock on the phone itself. Is there any chance that the lock can be bypassed by flashing a different ROM?
Any update on this? Thank you
I've been rocking a Droid Razr M for a while, epic phone!
But I've had my eye on the Moto X since I first heard about it... it just is a fantastic phone from all I've been reading and watching.
Problem is... I'm outside the states. I'm an European currently living in Bolivia.
I can easily get a Moto X same way I got my Razr M => Ebay! .. thing is.. will it work?
The Verizon Droid Razr M worked even before I unlocked it's bootloader etc.. will the Moto X ?
It should work no problem as long as you sim-unlock the phone. I'm using an AT&T Moto X in Canada and it works wonders.
Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
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flashallthetime said:
Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
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oh thank you!
To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
SrPintas said:
...To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Thank you, that'd be great help!
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...I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
KidJoe said:
Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually? this is Bolivia, there's no such thing as NOT entering the APN manually !! ahah =)
Wow that's super!
The Moto X is by far the best Android phone out there for me. I hate big phones... it's like a cancer on Android Flagships.
That's why I really like the Razr M, performance and small size (about the size of an iphone 5, for comparisson sake) and the Moto X aint that much bigger and comes with kickass OS from start.. I kinda had given up on owning one, now I can look into it again! =D
Thank you!
SrPintas said:
Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually?
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yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
KidJoe said:
yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
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SrPintas said:
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
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The Moto X is available in Canada only on Rogers and Fido and its the XT1058 version. While it has the same frequencies as the AT&T and a few others, it also allows you to unlock the bootloader via Moto's website.
Right now only the 16GB version is available in black or white.
A good comparison chart of all of the versions of the Moto X is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X#Variants
Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
Steve-x said:
Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
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Oh that is kickass!
thanks a lot for all the input!
Is the sprint version of the phone globally unlocked as well?
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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gabo_e30 said:
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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Edit: Most US carriers should sell them unlocked, confirmed for AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. I've seen conflicting stories on Sprint. Verizon also may limit some other functionality like forwarding calls for Google Voice, but that's generally a US-only service. Republic Wireless may be locked as well.
bmszabo said:
Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
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Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
RobHands said:
Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
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Yes, according to description on eBay 'unlocked AT&T model'. Package was evidently opened, also on pics, for unlocking, as stated, otherwise unused, everything in original packaging, state, even protection folie on the phone.
After inserting my Dutch sim card started up w/o any problems!
And bonus; let it shipped as 'used item' (matter of fact is; package opened), so hadn't bothered customs office (pretty money hungry here in the Netherlands) neither..
Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?
mrbuddy said:
Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?
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We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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flashallthetime said:
We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable
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Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?
mrbuddy said:
Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?
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Fresh phone roughly 11 GB free space, yes Rogers moto can he unlocked through Motorola, the only downside is you lose your warranty. I tool Tue plunge right away and don't regret it for a moment
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We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.
zAlbee said:
Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.
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The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.
Steve-x said:
The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.
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Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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You can always flash the tmobile sbf firmware with there modems and you're good to go but you need to unlock your bootloader
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zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile. I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
Thanks
Also, FYI the model number on the box reads 00337NADEV which is what's listed on Motorola's specs sheet for AT&T/T-mobile's GSM Developer Edition while the FCC ID is IHDT56PA2 which corresponds to the XT1053 variant so hopefully everything works out (fingers crossed)
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Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile.
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Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
mikey-89 said:
I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
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I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)
Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.
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Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)
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That's great news! Thanks I'll be sure to check the APN settings also. Hopefully this thread clears up the situation for anyone else. I've been eyeing this device for a long time very excited to finally have one. How are the data speeds on Wind? I read they just recently finished upgrading all their towers to the HSPA+ standard and are now working on rolling out dual carrier HSPA+ also . Will be interesting to see how it fairs against Rogers 3G network once I get the phone and how well the Moto X's antenna can pick up Wind's signals
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mrbuddy said:
Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.
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Bummer. The nexus 5 seems like a great device though was seriously considering it but touchless control and active display features of the moto x won me over.
Don't expect LTE speeds obviously, but they are fast enough for everything I do and I never worry about speeds. That includes streaming YouTube and music on my commute.
Anyway, i just did 5 speed tests standing in the same spot. The server was a bigger factor than the network I found. From top to bottom: Start, Teksavvy, Vmedia, Zero fail, Zero fail. All servers were listed as 14km away in "Toronto". I'm pretty sure this app is just computing the distance to downtown and not the actual server...
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So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
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I have seen several posts on flashing XT1053(retail/tmobile/developer) firmware on XT1058(AT&T/Rogers/etc) hardware. I believe most people were only doing the OS though and not the entire flash(including the radio/modem)
The XT1053 is FCC ID ihdt56pa2 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 1700/850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04 and 17
The XT1058 is FCC ID ihdt56pa1 and includes: gsm 850/900/1800/1900, wcdma 850/1900 and LTE bands 02,04,05 and 17
So the differences are that the XT1053 supports wcdma 1700 and the XT1058 supports LTE band 05.
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But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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So I've been searching around, and some people say that AT&Ts LTE works perfectly, but some say that there is a missing band
But on the CyanogenMod page about the devices, they have the exact same bands:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1053_Info
So the reason I'm choosing the Tmobile X over the native ATT one is because ATT locked the bootloader, and has ugly logos on the phone, plus bloatware. Unlocked bootloader is the main thing. I'm not getting the developer edition because I really want to customize my phone .
So, can SOMEONE confirm if you can use E/3G/4G/LTE on the TMobile Moto X?
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I can confirm that the "T-Mobile" Moto X (XT1053) works 100% on AT&T 3G and LTE. I am using this model on AT&T's GoPhone service without any issues, both 3G HSPA+ and LTE work fine.
It is true that the XT1053 model is "missing" an LTE band (Band 5) -- however, AT&T does NOT use this band in the United States (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas), and the T-Mobile version has Bands 4 and 17 that AT&T uses in the U.S. So, if you're using AT&T in the U.S., the T-Mobile XT1053 model will work fine on LTE.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly.
Hope this helps!
James
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One thing to keep in mind is that the Moto X's IMEI will not be automatically provisioned by AT&T for LTE access since it's not an AT&T branded phone (AT&T's network assumes that non-AT&T phones are "dumbphones" that only work with HSPA+) -- you'll need to provide them with an IMEI of an AT&T LTE phone to get LTE access. This was confusing to me at first, because when I first activated my Moto X on the AT&T network I only could connect to HSPA+. I eventually had to go to an AT&T store, write down the IMEI of a Galaxy Note 2 floor model (but any LTE phone in the store would work), and give that IMEI to AT&T. After that, LTE worked perfectly
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
shusain93 said:
How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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I've never had to give them a fake IEMI. I just had to call and give them the one from my phone, and they then added LTE to it.
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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So I can take the IMEI from my iPhone (LTE), call AT&T up tell them I have a phone that supports LTE, but it's only getting 3G? What am I supposed to say?
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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Just call them. Say you aren't getting LTE and want to see what's wrong. They'll ask for the IEMI, and provision it. In a fringe scenario, they'll ask you to goto a store and get a new SIM card, where they'll do the same thing and read the IEMI.
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They provisioned mine at the store as I needed a new nano sim card. I had a gophone HSPA+ account with my Nexus 4 and they added the IEMI from the Moto X to my account, changed my plan to an LTE plan and I got LTE on the Moto X. Took 5 minutes.
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How do I "give' ATT an IMEI? I have an LTE sim from an iPhone 5, and It was the last phone I bought from ATT.
Please don't tell me we are faking IMEIs. Isn't it highly illegal?
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No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
James
Anybody know if my microcell from atnt will work with the Tmobile version of the moto x?
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Jimbogiant said:
No one is "faking" IMEIs or doing anything illegal. I'm sure people's experiences will differ from one store to the next, I'm just telling you what I had to do.
When I first got my Moto X, LTE did not work. I tried calling AT&T's customer support, and they told me my phone was "unsupported by the network," which is a huge pile of BS. So, I went to my local AT&T store and told a rep what was going on. He said "I'll be right back," grabbed a Galaxy Note 2 from a display, and wrote down its IMEI. He punched that into the system and voilá, the Moto X's LTE worked and it's been great ever since.
This was back in September, so maybe AT&T automatically recognizes Moto X IMEIs and provisions them for LTE. If not, just go in to a store and they'll get it figured out for you.
James
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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Did you account not already have an LTE device on it? I plan on switching my sim from an already LTE device.
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I activated a brand new account with the Moto X, so I didn't already have an LTE device on it like you do. I bet yours will work right out of the gate. I wasn't trying to scare you or imply that your phone wasn't going to work, but I wanted to let you know of the possibility of that happening and what to do if it did happen. Having been in the same situation you will be in (using AT&T on a T-Mobile Moto X), I just wanted you to have all the info.
I'm definitely not the only one to have run into a similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45965273&postcount=169 . This was a reply from someone helping me out w/ the LTE issue when I first got the phone in September:
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Mine works on AT&T LTE out of the box. You might have to try several things: call CS and make sure your IMEI is in the system. This should update and provision your account for LTE hopefully, though sometimes they don't recognize non-AT&T phones. Make sure to shut off your phone, go outside where it's clear and reboot after they do that as it needs to a very clear signal to latch onto the tower for the first time for LTE. If that doesn't work, you need to call CS and make sure you get Tech Support and basically geek out to one of them (about how you know what bands it has and what an APN is and double check you've got the correct one, etc) as they'll have to do all sorts of things to possibly get it to work. I finally had to use my old AT&T LTE phone IMEI and keep that on the account to keep it correctly provisioned. Weird, but just my experience.
It does work though on AT&T LTE.
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Thank you everyone! Looks like I'm getting a T-Mobile X.
I got one today, more worried about it not connecting to my microcell. 32 gb Super stoked!!!
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Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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I'm a little confused now on this IMEI stuff. I've got a GS3 (i747) on AT&T right now w/ LTE. I've purchased a XT1053 (T-Mobile variant of moto x).
When it comes next week and I go in to get a nano sim card will they give me a hard time because they'll want to register the IMEI of the Moto X and it won't be in their DB?
I also want to sell my i747 on swappa, but swappa you're supposed to unregister any devices from your account first right? So don't I need to remove the IMEI of my i747 from my account and have the Moto X IMEI registered then?
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From the sounds of it, my information from earlier in the thread may be outdated. I had the IMEI issues back in September, but from what I can gather now (and based on my experience with the Nexus 5), I think AT&T's IMEI database has been updated to automatically provision new unlocked phones to LTE.
I would just take your Moto X into an AT&T store when you get it and try it with its own IMEI -- if LTE doesn't work, just ask one of the reps if they have a placeholder LTE-enabled IMEI they could punch in instead, this is what they did for me back in September.
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chirpa12 said:
Are most of you planning on getting a new nano sim or are you just going to cut yours down from a larger size?
I have an S4 right now which has a micro-sim. So I was thinking of cutting it down to a nano sim. Anyone done this?
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I've cut down a micro SIM to a nano SIM with no problems. AT&T will give you a nano SIM for free if you walk into a store and ask for one though.
Great info guys. I'm planning to get the T-Mobile Moto X myself to use on AT&T, do I need to unlock the phone? and how do you do that?
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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Russell Sprouts said:
The T-Mo version is not Sim locked, so you'll be fine. Sounds like you'll need to talk to AT&T to get LTE access, though.
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I already have a Galaxy S3 with LTE enabled, all I need to do is to cut the sim card right? to have LTE on T-Mobile Moto X
I'm not sure how that works... Is it really as simple as swapping the Sim card? I just got a T-Mo Moto X to replace the AT&T version I've been using on T-Mo prepaid and I thought I'd at least have to register the new IMEI before I could use it.
EDIT: Well I just successfully swapped my sim into a new T-Mo Moto X and it connected right away to LTE. So that answers that. No need to call or otherwise notify T-Mo. The above discussion suggests it may be more complicated on AT&T, though.
Hey all.
I ordered a moto X about 2 weeks ago, i got the unlocked Tmobile version that was on sale for 350$
anyway i live abroad and i was sure that i would be able to use the phone here (like the moto G) but i cant, it seems that the phone is ONLY unlocked for US carriers.
So my questions are:
1) is there an easy way for me to unlock it Globally for free? (Tmobile said they can do it but only from a store in the US).
2) I saw people can buy unlock codes, but my phone does not show that it is unlocked so i'm not sure if that will work..?
Any help would be very appreciated!
Tevie.
If you have the tmobile version then the phone is already sim/provider unlocked.
Which phone exactly did you get and what specific problem are you having?
Steve-x said:
If you have the tmobile version then the phone is already sim/provider unlocked.
Which phone exactly did you get and what specific problem are you having?
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I got the moto x from moto maker (picked the unlocked T-Mobile version)
The problem is that its not unlocked for Sim abroad, only in the U.S . I wanted to know how I can get it to work with a Sim not from the U.S
TMO version is supposed to be unlocked for any carrier. How do you know that it is not the case? Did you try to put non-US SIM card and it failed?
Tevie said:
I got the moto x from moto maker (picked the unlocked T-Mobile version)
The problem is that its not unlocked for Sim abroad, only in the U.S . I wanted to know how I can get it to work with a Sim not from the U.S
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I know my friend in Belgium who ordered it and its working fine with his Belgium Sim. Try to put the SIM in and see how it goes. It should work.
varun.gid said:
I know my friend in Belgium who ordered it and its working fine with his Belgium Sim. Try to put the SIM in and see how it goes. It should work.
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Thanks for the replay's.
I did put a local Sim in the phone and it could not register to a local networked (the same Sim worked in a different phone )
Note that it found the local networks just can't log to them.
Note 2 . TM told me that its locked for use abroad ...
It is 100% unlocked, there is no partial lock on the phone. If the phone can't register with your provider there is a different problem not related to sim locking.
I'm using my T-Mobile X in the Caribbean all fine with no hiccups or issues. Maybe it needs the APN.
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Moto X in Belgium
I bought the T-mobile version form Moto maker, and without a problem put a Base nano sim in it. Works fine. Strangely enough it shows 4G almost everywhere... Wonder if that is correct?
jan legein said:
I bought the T-mobile version form Moto maker, and without a problem put a Base nano sim in it. Works fine. Strangely enough it shows 4G almost everywhere... Wonder if that is correct?
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Does it jsut show the 4G symbol or the 4G with the small LTE next to it? If you have HSPA service, you will see 4G.
4G it shows, which in Belgium is HSPA+
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