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[Q] Some Questions About Different Moto X Models

Hey all,
I'm looking at purchasing a Moto X (possibly two, if my wife replaces her iPhone...). I'm currently not tied to any particular carrier, but I'd like to keep my options as open as possible. I'm going to buy the phone/s at full price, and then bring them to whatever carrier/service/MVNO I end up with.
From what I understand so far, there are two basic models of the Moto X -- one for Verizon (CDMA), and one for GSM-based networks.
Here's my basic question: What's the difference between these phones??
The Verizon website lists the Moto X as a 'global' phone, which implies that it has a GSM radio in it, right?
If so, does that imply that the 'Tmobile' (or otherwise GSM-based) Moto X has a CDMA radio?
Then, as if I'm not confused enough, I find the 'Developer' edition of the Moto X... in two versions -- one for Verizon, and the other for 'GSM'. The developer edition provides an unlockable bootloader... cool, I'm a fan of that! But!! Isn't the Moto X part of the Motorola Bootloader Unlock program? It is (hxxps://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215)... so what's the difference between the 'Developer' edition, and the regular edition?
I'm sorry if these are silly questions -- but I've spent at least an hour Googling today, and didn't find any answers that I found conclusive. Thanks for any help you can give!!

Spirotot said:
Hey all,
I'm looking at purchasing a Moto X (possibly two, if my wife replaces her iPhone...). I'm currently not tied to any particular carrier, but I'd like to keep my options as open as possible. I'm going to buy the phone/s at full price, and then bring them to whatever carrier/service/MVNO I end up with.
From what I understand so far, there are two basic models of the Moto X -- one for Verizon (CDMA), and one for GSM-based networks.
Here's my basic question: What's the difference between these phones??
The Verizon website lists the Moto X as a 'global' phone, which implies that it has a GSM radio in it, right?
If so, does that imply that the 'Tmobile' (or otherwise GSM-based) Moto X has a CDMA radio?
Then, as if I'm not confused enough, I find the 'Developer' edition of the Moto X... in two versions -- one for Verizon, and the other for 'GSM'. The developer edition provides an unlockable bootloader... cool, I'm a fan of that! But!! Isn't the Moto X part of the Motorola Bootloader Unlock program? It is (hxxps://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215)... so what's the difference between the 'Developer' edition, and the regular edition?
I'm sorry if these are silly questions -- but I've spent at least an hour Googling today, and didn't find any answers that I found conclusive. Thanks for any help you can give!!
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Unless you absolutely have to have VZW for the service - do not buy the VZW model. I am on VZW and have the Dev Edition from them. VZW is always the last to get updates.
So there is just a lot going on with this phone...
There are two different Developer Editions. GSM (for AT&T and T-mobile?). I know it is for ATT and believe it is also for T-mobile. But the T-mobile Consumer Edition also has an unlockable bootloader without buying the developer edition?
Even though the MotoX is listed on Motorola's Bootloader unlock program - it is only certain models. Sprint, T-mobile, US Cellular. Verizon's is only the Developer Edition. ATT would only be the GSM Developer Edition.
My recommendation is T-mobile if you get good service from them. They are going to get updates first.
Also as far as CDMA Vs. GSM; Verizon and Sprint use CDMA technology and ATT and Tmobile and most others use GSM technology.
I know that sounded like a big mess - sorry. I am tired and its all I got for now.

The CDMA version has gsm capabilities, but the gsm version will not work on CDMA.
If I were in your position, I'd get the gsm developer edition or the T-Mobile version. Either of those should be compatible with most carriers unless you absolutely need a Verizon phone. If so get the VZW developer edition.
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thepolishguy said:
My recommendation is T-mobile if you get good service from them. They are going to get updates first.
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That would be my choice, as well. However, I'm not 100% sure I want to commit to T-Mobile, yet... their coverage seems to be the most lacking of non-Verizon carriers. I was actually thinking of activating the phone on Ting (a Spring MVNO) to begin with.
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I know that sounded like a big mess - sorry. I am tired and its all I got for now.
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No worries, I appreciate it, man.
housry23 said:
The CDMA version has gsm capabilities, but the gsm version will not work on CDMA.
If I were in your position, I'd get the gsm developer edition or the T-Mobile version. Either of those should be compatible with most carriers unless you absolutely need a Verizon phone. If so get the VZW developer edition.
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So what you're saying is that the VZW Dev edition would theoretically work on other CDMA carriers (i.e. Sprint/Sprint-based networks), and also GSM-based networks (i.e. T-Mobile), right? But that the T-Mobile version with only work on GSM carriers (i.e. not Verizon, and not Sprint)?
As much as I'd love to just commit to T-Mobile's GSM network... their coverage maps have me hesitant, heh.

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...As much as I'd love to just commit to T-Mobile's GSM network... their coverage maps have me hesitant, heh.
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With T-Mobile you don't commit, other than the cost of the phone which can be resold. They don't do contracts so you can easily switch to another carrier if needed. I've been on Verizon since their inception and I now have à T-Mobile "test" line which is working pretty well. As mentioned above, it's probably best to get the GSM dev edition since it can be used on AT&T too.

I'm nearly certain the T-Mobile version works 100% on AT&T HSPA & LTE.
I ordered one last night, so I will clear that up when it arrives next week, but I'm pretty certain I've already seen others reporting that T-Mobile works fully on AT&T and is unlocked out of the box.

scottjb said:
With T-Mobile you don't commit, other than the cost of the phone which can be resold. They don't do contracts so you can easily switch to another carrier if needed. I've been on Verizon since their inception and I now have à T-Mobile "test" line which is working pretty well. As mentioned above, it's probably best to get the GSM dev edition since it can be used on AT&T too.
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Gotcha. Ideally, though, I'd like a phone that would work on CDMA AND/OR GSM networks... would the VZW and/or VZW Dev Edition be capable of that? That is, could I activate on a Sprint-based CDMA network like Ting, and then switch to a GSM-based network like T-Mobile later, if I wanted?
phositadc said:
I'm nearly certain the T-Mobile version works 100% on AT&T HSPA & LTE.
I ordered one last night, so I will clear that up when it arrives next week, but I'm pretty certain I've already seen others reporting that T-Mobile works fully on AT&T and is unlocked out of the box.
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Awesome! Looking foward to what you find out.

I think you need a Sprint version to be able to use Ting. Last I heard, they don't flash Verizon phones to their network. I'm not sure if the Sprint version can be unlocked to be used on T-Mobile if you change your mind later. I'd highly advise just picking your carrier first before picking your phone.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app

freak4dell said:
I'd highly advise just picking your carrier first before picking your phone.
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Was starting to think that myself, heh. Just kind of a bummer, because I know I want the phone -- but I don't know which carrier will end up fitting me best.

[Q] T-Mobile Moto X: can I use it on any GSM carrier?

Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!

The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.

HwlHwl said:
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
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They're the exact same phone x1053, make sure the LTE bands are correct for the carriers you want to use (5 and 7 are x1058 only)

Steve-x said:
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?

Odelheim said:
Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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I can't verify whether it's SIM locked or not but I have one in my hand and the T-Mobile XT1053 does not have any branding on it. There is no logo on it. There are no T-Mo apps on it either.

It's unlocked. Using it with prepaid at&t.
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[Q] Thinking of buying the 2013 Moto X

Hi,
I currently own a Nexus S, customized with AOSP Kitkat ROM. While this is a wonderful device, I think the time has come to change it. 512MB of RAM is just way too low for KitKat and newer apps that are RAM hungry. However, I don't like big phones. I like my Nexus S because it is small and fits everywhere. My brother has a Nexus 5 and it just doesn't fit in my hand. The screen is beautiful, but it is too big for my hand.
I was passing by a carrier store last week and came accross the Moto X and Moto G, both last generation. Both are the same physical size, even though the screen on the Moto G is 4.5inches and the X is 4.7. They fit pretty well in my hands and I love their design. It is also a great thing that it is running nearly stock Android with Motorola applications.
I know the Moto X isn't the most powerful phone on the market, and this isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a nice upgrade with features that I like and a device that feels good in my hands.
Is the device worth it ? Are the Motorola extra features (Moto Assist, Active Display, Touchless controls) working fine ? I can easily imagine my Moto X docked in my car and me asking it for directions or change songs. I can't do that with the Nexus S; it is way too weak in power.
Do you know if I have to keep the stock launcher to get those features ? I really enjoy Apex.
How's the battery life ? I am usually not power hungry as I don't play games on my phone or even watch videos. I listen to music, check rss feeds and social networks.
Lastely, what would you change to the (old) Moto X ? From the reviews that I have read, I understand that the screen isn't incredible, but would you say that it is an issue ?
Thanks for any input
Neo.

Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.

What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display

Was in the same situation as u 2 months ago, coming from a droid 3. Was looking at moto x and maxx, but battery was a huge plus for me, and went with the maxx, and I couldn't be happier with my choice. Although, it is a 5 inch screen.
Sent from my XT1080 using XDA Free mobile app

KJ said:
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
Just my opinion. ?
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Thanks. It did answer if a third party launcher can be installed and keep Motorola features. The answer is yes
titetanium said:
The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
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I am in Canada, so the device costs more. In fact, I can't really buy the device anymore in Canada and would have to import it from the US. More of a hassle, but may be worth it. I could get the 16GB XT1058 for about 300$USD shipped.
aviwdoowks said:
What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
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I am currently with Koodo (Telus) in Canada, but I would buy an unlocked device or unlock it myself. Rogers and Fido had the Moto X as an exclusive here in Canada. You couldn't buy the Moto X anywhere else than these carriers store. So if I wanna get a Moto X on Koodo, I must unlock it anyway. As for the Droid Maxx, I've read many times that the radio isn't working properly in Canada. I would have to dig a bit.
On another note, I was looking at how to root the Moto X and it is much more complicated than my Nexus S. If I can get a Dev edition it would be easier but they are hard to find (and not cheap). Gotta love Nexus devices for that reason !

You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.

KJ said:
You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?

The best buy in the last couple of years. I definitly recommend it. I always was the type of person, who felt like having to fiddle a lot with the phone, to fulfill my needs. (I came from LG devices). I always rooted and installed custom ROMs. But believe it or not, I still dont feel the need to root or install a different Software, since the stock ROM runs amazingly great on my phone. I also had the G in my hands, but the X display is way better. Camera... Well it is not the best, but also not as bad as many said. Battery is amazin. And although I already had phones with more capacity, this one lasts longer by far. I also listen to a LOT of music and the phone still gets me through the day quite easily. But there is one thing I would consider. The new 2014 X. For me personally, the screen is too big, but maybe it will be just right for you? And yeah it does not have killer specs, but the phone is definitly smoother than other flagship phones, which often laag due to the extra ("great"/"special") custom UI.
Those are my 2 cents. Hope it helps a bit
Sent from my XT1052 using XDA Free mobile app

I think it would be quite an upgrade for you and still worth it..
If you have any specific questions feel free to post here or message me

spookyneo said:
Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.

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KJ said:
Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better

$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????

spookyneo said:
OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.

tt c6 said:
$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.

spookyneo said:
I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.

KJ said:
I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one

spookyneo said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Yup. ?
Kijiji.

Any Canadian Moto X 2014 Users

Was really considering the phone, but Telus sells the 16GB one. And I am not sure how they will cripple Moto's fast updates. Any Canadian owners, leave your thoughts. I am better off going with the Pure Version?

The only thing telus has done with their moto x is the branding in the status bar and a shortcut to the mytelus account Web app
I don't expect them to take long for other updates.

Mine didn't even come with the Telus MyAccount app at all? It seems like there's actually nothing here (locked phone aside)

The "My Telus" app is in the play store. There really isn't anything on the phone that should delay the update. Part of telus' marketing for this phone has been something along these lines: Pure Style, pure performance with the fastest updates. Im expecting to get the update at the same time as the pure edition or maybe after a few days of network testing.
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You can actually remove the TELUS branding in status bar form network settings if you want.

Telus
According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.

Gage_Hero said:
According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.
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Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?

oxxshadow said:
Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?
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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.

Gage_Hero said:
If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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ah ok thanks! I am thinking of getting the Pure, but I forgot us Canucks cannot buy it

I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.

snoopstah said:
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.

oxxshadow said:
I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.
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Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.

aznturtle100 said:
Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.
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You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?

oxxshadow said:
You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?
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I bought the phone from telus then unlocked it. I cost me about 690$ after tax (quebec tax).

Its a good choice
Gage_Hero said:
If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.

Does anyone know when is the end of the Telus exclusivity period?

snoopstah said:
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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Yes it do unlocked. and in cheap way. i got mine unlocked from http://phoneunlockingshop.ca

torawnto said:
I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.
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how did you do it? i cant get any methods to work

XT1254 in Europe

Hey,
I'm planning on getting an XT1254 Turbo. I'm coming from a Moto X 2014. Reasons are mostly battery life.
I've only found the XT1254 and XT1250 that are still selling online. I would prefer to get the .54 as I'd like the extra storage. As far as I read over here, the XT1254 is the Verizon version, XT1250 the Verizon Unlocked GSM version, and then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched, so I'm kinda set with the XT1254 which would be the Verizon version.
My carrier is Vodafone, in Europe.
Would I encounter any particular problems as far as carrier compatibility, GSM/LTE bands and such? Will it work on LTE on either of the available bands?
Would I be better off using the XT1250?
Thanks!
LE: All's good. See thread and last post.

inkmars said:
Hey,
I'm planning on getting an XT1254 Turbo. I'm coming from a Moto X 2014. Reasons are mostly battery life.
I've only found the XT1254 and XT1250 that are still selling online. I would prefer to get the .54 as I'd like the extra storage. As far as I read over here, the XT1254 is the Verizon version, XT1250 the Verizon Unlocked GSM version, and then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched, so I'm kinda set with the XT1254 which would be the Verizon version.
My carrier is Vodafone, in Europe.
Would I encounter any particular problems as far as carrier compatibility, GSM/LTE bands and such? Will it work on LTE on either of the available bands?
Would I be better off using the XT1250?
Thanks!
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XT1254 = XT1250. They have identical hardware. The only difference is software. The XT1250 is not a Verizon phone.
XT1254: Officially locked bootloader (unlockable via Sunshine for a fee), unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
XT1250: Officially unlockable bootloader, unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
As for band compatibility, your best bet would be to look up the bands your carrier uses and the bands that the phone you're considering is capable of receiving. However, just for some anecdotal evidence, I took my XT1254 to Germany, Sweden and Czechia using a German SIM card that I bought, and the phone worked perfectly in all of those places.

TheSt33v said:
XT1254 = XT1250. They have identical hardware. The only difference is software. The XT1250 is not a Verizon phone.
XT1254: Officially locked bootloader (unlockable via Sunshine for a fee), unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
XT1250: Officially unlockable bootloader, unlocked SIM, CDMA and GSM capable.
As for band compatibility, your best bet would be to look up the bands your carrier uses and the bands that the phone you're considering is capable of receiving. However, just for some anecdotal evidence, I took my XT1254 to Germany, Sweden and Czechia using a German SIM card that I bought, and the phone worked perfectly in all of those places.
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Also for the op...
The XT1254 and XT1250 bands are the same. I've posted them many times. LTE bands 2,3,4,7,13. Plus some HSPA (not as many as the XT1225), and CDMA.
XT1250 is 32GB only.
XT1254 is 32GB and some 64GB.
XT1225 is 64GB only.
If you're getting the XT1254 for additional storage, double check it's a 64GB model. Most are not.

Really appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
On a side note, does anyone know any other way of getting an XT1225 apart from ebay/amazon? I've also tried google searches; ended up on other selling platform sites but still nothing. Not even in used state.

Also, if it helps, I have a 64 GB XT1254. On the phone it says model: XT1254, type: M0DFE. That type number might help you distinguish between the 32 and 64GB models, but I don't know that for sure.

inkmars said:
Really appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
On a side note, does anyone know any other way of getting an XT1225 apart from ebay/amazon? I've also tried google searches; ended up on other selling platform sites but still nothing. Not even in used state.
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https://swappa.com/buy/moto-maxx-unlocked
There's a few used ones on here.
Never mind. I misread the site.

TheSt33v said:
https://swappa.com/buy/moto-maxx-unlocked
There's a few used ones on here.
Never mind. I misread the site.
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I wish. But I appreciate it

Just out of curiosity, why are you set on the Turbo/Maxx? There are plenty of better options out there.

PMed as to not clutter the thread

Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?

inkmars said:
Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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He's wrong. No Verizon postpaid LTE phones have been carrier locked since 2012 FCC agreement.
I can show you YouTube videos and an XDA thread from November 2014 (just after release) showing Droid Turbo running on AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint. The Droid Turbo is not and has never been carrier locked.
No Verizon postpaid LTE phones are carrier locked (since 2012), or Verizon would have to pay hefty fines.
There's a lot of ignorance about carrier locked and bootloader lock. Many people don't know the difference. Plus Verizon infamously used to carrier lock their contract/postpaid phones (but haven't for about 5 years).
And yes, if you search the internet you will find a lot of those ignorant comments. Even here on XDA we had to educate people.

ChazzMatt said:
he's wrong. No Verizon postpaid LTE phones have been carrier locked since 2012 FCC agreement.
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Interesting.
Well, he doesn't seem sure if it's locked or not. I asked him to head over to Verizon and see if it's locked and, if that's the case, to tell me the unlock-fee. He just said that he's not familiar with the process and that he won't do it. As for me, I probably won't be able to do anything with the unlocking process since I'm in Europe. He's in the US.
I'm committed to buying it but If all fails and it's indeed locked, are my hands tied or am I able to do something from my end when it arrives?
Thanks again.

inkmars said:
Interesting.
Well, he doesn't seem sure if it's locked or not. I asked him to head over to Verizon and see if it's locked and, if that's the case, to tell me the unlock-fee. He just said that he's not familiar with the process and that he won't do it. As for me, I probably won't be able to do anything with the unlocking process since I'm in Europe. He's in the US.
I'm committed to buying it but If all fails and it's indeed locked, are my hands tied or am I able to do something from my end when it arrives?
Thanks again.
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My comments stand. Search here on XDA for Droid Turbo on other carriers. I'll try to find a post.
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Here you go:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/psa-droid-turbo-att-network-t3448833/page1
I know that post talks about AT&T a lot, but the point is the Droid Turbo has NEVER been carrier locked. But a lot of people think Verizon still does that. They're not allowed to, as a specific condition for having access to more LTE spectrum.

I didn't even think it was possible, so it didn't cross my mind to search for it. My bad!
Thanks for all the info!

inkmars said:
Found an XT1254 in great condition but the seller states it's carrier locked in Verizon. There's no way past that and make it work in Europe with other carriers, right?
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There is no such thing as a carrier locked XT1254. Verizon is legally required to keep them carrier unlocked per an agreement they have with the FCC, and I'm pretty sure that asshole who runs the FCC hasn't gotten around to dismantling that requirement yet.
EDIT: Oops, missed a whole page of discussion. Ignore me.

Just bought the XT1254 that I mentioned earlier. Will do a follow-up when it's here and all's good. Thank you everyone.

inkmars said:
then there's the XT1225 that's the International version Moto Maxx/Moto Droid Turbo.
There are absolutely no more XT1225 online to buy as far as I searched
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This was why I bought my third XT1225 new in the box back in early 2016 -- as a backup phone, just so something like this wouldn't happen. I bought it while there was still a little supply available on eBay.
My wife and I have the other two as daily phones.
That third phone still new in the box. Whenever I decide to sell it, someone will be very lucky.

ChazzMatt said:
This was why I bought my third XT1225 new in the box back in early 2016 -- as a backup phone, just so something like this wouldn't happen. I bought it while there was still a little supply available on eBay.
My wife and I have the other two as daily phones.
That third phone still new in the box. Whenever I decide to sell it, someone will be very lucky.
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Yeah I realized I woke up too late to get a .25 or even .54s that are new in the box. Got the 2014 X back in 2015...time flew fast.
I would I'm planning on getting a 2nd one at some point soon...and the xt1225 would be better Promise I'd take care of it as if it was my baby.

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1st XT1254 arrived yesterday with 5.1 official. Will probably settle in a few days, then take the OTA to MM since I heard there are some battery improvements there too so it won't hurt. Soon after I'll Sunshine it and move on to cr most probably.
Factory reset it and popped in my Vodafone SIM from my Moto X2 and after a few seconds I got 4G without any settings changes on my end. 'Global' was already set by default so that was probably why it worked straight away.
Googled beforehand that Vodafone uses Band 3 and 20 here. Out of the ones that the XT1254 supports, only Band 3 is a match. So far I can't seem to notice any drawbacks from having only one out of two available 4G Bands, so all's good.
I ordered a 2nd XT1254 soon after the first one as I found even a better price and at 64GB instead of 32GB. This one will arrive this Tuesday and I'm optimistic it will be smooth sailing regarding Carrier/4G compatibility like with the 1st Droid.
Just out of curiosity I went into SIM Status to check the signal strength and compare it to my Moto X2 which has an amazing coverage. They're both sitting at -96.
So for anyone having doubts about Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 working to its fullest in Europe or anywhere else besides The U.S, just check your Carrier's supported 3G/4G bands and see if you have any match.
Any SIM card other than Verizon will work just as well as with a Verizon one. Only thing that you'll get is a notification every time you reboot the phone stating that the inserted SIM is not from Verizon. Dismiss and get going.
One other thing you'll want to check if you have issues calling someone is to head over in to the Dialer Settings and search for that one thing that will add prefix to the phone number (I forgot its name, but you'll find it easily). Even if you set the correct country you're in, you still might have issues calling. Just disable it so that it won't add any prefixes and you're good to go.
Thanks a lot @ChazzMatt and @TheSt33v for all the help.

inkmars said:
I ordered a 2nd XT1254 soon after the first one as I found even a better price and at 64GB instead of 32GB. This one will arrive this Tuesday and I'm optimistic it will be smooth sailing regarding Carrier/4G compatibility like with the 1st Droid.
Any SIM card other than Verizon will work just as well as with a Verizon one. Only thing that you'll get is a notification every time you reboot the phone stating that the inserted SIM is not from Verizon. Dismiss and get going.
Soon after I'll Sunshine it and move on to cr most probably.
Thanks a lot @ChazzMatt and @TheSt33v for all the help.
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Glad to be of help!
You'll like 64GB much better. Besides extra storage, all the 64GB Quarks have ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath, not just the kevlar backing.
I'm pretty sure installing custom ROM will take care of the Verizon annoyance SIM card notification.