Hi,
I currently own a Nexus S, customized with AOSP Kitkat ROM. While this is a wonderful device, I think the time has come to change it. 512MB of RAM is just way too low for KitKat and newer apps that are RAM hungry. However, I don't like big phones. I like my Nexus S because it is small and fits everywhere. My brother has a Nexus 5 and it just doesn't fit in my hand. The screen is beautiful, but it is too big for my hand.
I was passing by a carrier store last week and came accross the Moto X and Moto G, both last generation. Both are the same physical size, even though the screen on the Moto G is 4.5inches and the X is 4.7. They fit pretty well in my hands and I love their design. It is also a great thing that it is running nearly stock Android with Motorola applications.
I know the Moto X isn't the most powerful phone on the market, and this isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a nice upgrade with features that I like and a device that feels good in my hands.
Is the device worth it ? Are the Motorola extra features (Moto Assist, Active Display, Touchless controls) working fine ? I can easily imagine my Moto X docked in my car and me asking it for directions or change songs. I can't do that with the Nexus S; it is way too weak in power.
Do you know if I have to keep the stock launcher to get those features ? I really enjoy Apex.
How's the battery life ? I am usually not power hungry as I don't play games on my phone or even watch videos. I listen to music, check rss feeds and social networks.
Lastely, what would you change to the (old) Moto X ? From the reviews that I have read, I understand that the screen isn't incredible, but would you say that it is an issue ?
Thanks for any input
Neo.
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
Was in the same situation as u 2 months ago, coming from a droid 3. Was looking at moto x and maxx, but battery was a huge plus for me, and went with the maxx, and I couldn't be happier with my choice. Although, it is a 5 inch screen.
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KJ said:
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
Just my opinion. ?
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Thanks. It did answer if a third party launcher can be installed and keep Motorola features. The answer is yes
titetanium said:
The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
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I am in Canada, so the device costs more. In fact, I can't really buy the device anymore in Canada and would have to import it from the US. More of a hassle, but may be worth it. I could get the 16GB XT1058 for about 300$USD shipped.
aviwdoowks said:
What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
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I am currently with Koodo (Telus) in Canada, but I would buy an unlocked device or unlock it myself. Rogers and Fido had the Moto X as an exclusive here in Canada. You couldn't buy the Moto X anywhere else than these carriers store. So if I wanna get a Moto X on Koodo, I must unlock it anyway. As for the Droid Maxx, I've read many times that the radio isn't working properly in Canada. I would have to dig a bit.
On another note, I was looking at how to root the Moto X and it is much more complicated than my Nexus S. If I can get a Dev edition it would be easier but they are hard to find (and not cheap). Gotta love Nexus devices for that reason !
You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
The best buy in the last couple of years. I definitly recommend it. I always was the type of person, who felt like having to fiddle a lot with the phone, to fulfill my needs. (I came from LG devices). I always rooted and installed custom ROMs. But believe it or not, I still dont feel the need to root or install a different Software, since the stock ROM runs amazingly great on my phone. I also had the G in my hands, but the X display is way better. Camera... Well it is not the best, but also not as bad as many said. Battery is amazin. And although I already had phones with more capacity, this one lasts longer by far. I also listen to a LOT of music and the phone still gets me through the day quite easily. But there is one thing I would consider. The new 2014 X. For me personally, the screen is too big, but maybe it will be just right for you? And yeah it does not have killer specs, but the phone is definitly smoother than other flagship phones, which often laag due to the extra ("great"/"special") custom UI.
Those are my 2 cents. Hope it helps a bit
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I think it would be quite an upgrade for you and still worth it..
If you have any specific questions feel free to post here or message me
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Yup. ?
Kijiji.
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Hey everyone.
I was thinking about importing a Moto X to the UK, but I'm concerned that it may not work. I reserched about the bands here but I don't know any really realiable source of information and I haven't been living here for long to know much about it (I've moved about 3 weeks ago). Would it be ok to get one from eBay and just pop in a SIM?
Also, I feel like I should wait for the Nexus 5 official release to compare them properly, although the voice features in the Moto X are really driving me to get it. What do you guys think? Is it really worth waiting?
Thanks for the attention. c:
uaite said:
Hey everyone.
I was thinking about importing a Moto X to the UK, but I'm concerned that it may not work. I reserched about the bands here but I don't know any really realiable source of information and I haven't been living here for long to know much about it (I've moved about 3 weeks ago). Would it be ok to get one from eBay and just pop in a SIM?
Also, I feel like I should wait for the Nexus 5 official release to compare them properly, although the voice features in the Moto X are really driving me to get it. What do you guys think? Is it really worth waiting?
Thanks for the attention. c:
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Get the developer edition GSM and you'll be fine, it will be compatible with any carrier and it will get updates as soon as they are available, plus the bootloader is unlockable so u can have fun hacking it like a nexus, I think the moto X beats de Nexus 5, from the active display which the Nex5 can't have because it has an IPS display, to the lack of touchless control since the nex5 has no independant chip just for language procesing, so ye basically the X is a Nexus with somme really useful features added, great batery life, and awesome form factor, go with the X bro...
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Get the developer edition GSM and you'll be fine, it will be compatible with any carrier and it will get updates as soon as they are available, plus the bootloader is unlockable so u can have fun hacking it like a nexus, I think the moto X beats de Nexus 5, from the active display which the Nex5 can't have because it has an IPS display, to the lack of touchless control since the nex5 has no independant chip just for language procesing, so ye basically the X is a Nexus with somme really useful features added, great batery life, and awesome form factor, go with the X bro...
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Thanks, dude.
One little thing: there's this auction going on at eBay and the price is half the other Xs on sale, but it doesn't mention being dev edition, although some other one does... The description doesn't clarify much either, it does mention networks types but you can never be too sure...
This is the link: ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-Moto-X-16GB-Unlocked-Customized-Smartphone-/221296979130?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item338653ecba (can't post links yet, sorry)
Would that be a safe buy or I'd be better off taking another one?
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Thanks, dude.
One little thing: there's this auction going on at eBay and the price is half the other Xs on sale, but it doesn't mention being dev edition, although some other one does... The description doesn't clarify much either, it does mention networks types but you can never be too sure...
This is the link: ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-Moto-X-16GB-Unlocked-Customized-Smartphone-/221296979130?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item338653ecba (can't post links yet, sorry)
Would that be a safe buy or I'd be better off taking another one?
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It looks nice, that'll work for any carrier that uses gsm, if u can get it, get it, but I think the bids are gonna get much higher than that with the days, If I were u I'd rather get the dev edition, which is 530 pounds there in the uk website...
The one in the ebay listing might be a Rogers phone that has been unlocked. Its made in China so its not a US phone, and it has the Industry Canada info on it. Rogers is the only provider in Canada that has the Moto X. Assuming it is that would mean the bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola. Based on the FCC ID its a XT-1058 model (same as AT&T) if you want to see what bands it supports.
This phone works for you http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Mo...d=100040&prg=1011&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=231074547135&
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
rweddy1 said:
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Great points. I loved Eclipse ROM on my G. Nexus, have to look into that once I get the Dev Edition.
It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I am not sure, I referring to the Verizon Edition, GSM might be different.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Here you go.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
That shows the frequencies per model.
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It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Fair enough. It's a total guess about what they will do with the UI. I can say with a high degree of confidence that they won't update the X and add their UI. Going forward though, you never know. I'd hope they'd just push and market Motos existing strategy, but that's my consumer side hope. I would think the near AOSP UI that Moto has could be enough to provide the product difference they want to separate them from everyone else without some silly skin like TV.
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I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?
vinuneuro said:
I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?
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unless an exploit comes out in the future (but i think everybody is pessimistic about this), the locked versions can't downgrade and can't root 4.4.2.
so you need either an unlocked version, or a locked version pre-4.4.2
And no....don't downgrade. You could easily brick your phone.
Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........
virtuewill said:
Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........
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Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol
kj2112 said:
Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol
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There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.
Wait....what exact one did you buy????
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Wait....what exact one did you buy????
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Moto X for AT&T
Memory - 32 GB
Back - Woven Black
Front - black
Accent - Metallic Black
Estimated Delivery May 5, 2014
$99 for 2 year contract. **** I could've just bought a used dev moto from ebay
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There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.
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Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.
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Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
virtuewill said:
Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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The Moto x definitely doesn't need to be rooted, but you may regret it later if you can't.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Thanks for all the helpful replies.
I wasn't planning on rooting this phone either, but then I came across Gravity Box. Sell the phone new and get an unlocked one.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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No one is really in the market for a moto x unless you sell it for dirt cheap. You don't really need to root this device it's great without but even better with root. You can disable the camera shutter sound from the camera menu. Es file explorer is a great alternative? But if you want return it and get the T-Mobile version its unlocked. This phone has been really great.
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Why are all pessimistic that manage to get root on a closed bootloader version from AT & T?
Why do these companies do not sell at least an opportunity to get open bootloader? What do they lose?
I miss perekllyuchatelya regimes in 2G, 3G, and other other joys ...
I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?
DocMCSE said:
I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?
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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
You can pay a small fee and get your AT&T X unlocked to use on other GSM carriers....AT&T also might provide you with the code if you meet certain criteria. Bootloader unlock is another story. AT&T forbids Motorola from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones. Currently the ONLY possibility for unlocking the bootloader on an AT&T X is through the China Middleman.
Apologizes if any (or all) of this is redundant.
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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
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Thanks, I pretty much figured in this day and age that the SIM could be unlocked or I'd have bought the unlocked one to start with. What bothers me most is I do not use/abuse root on any of the devices I own and am only interested in doing so on my X to run the Titanium Backup app I purchased to run on my older phone. I guess I knew back then the app needed root to run but since that used to never be an issue due to the collective experience I have at my fingertips here at XDA-Developers.com. it never dawned on my that a day would come where root would be taken away from me never to be returned.
i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!
d0g said:
i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!
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1. Not sure about Kit Kat, Jellybean could be rooted
2. No, well you can but you will loose the ability to call and text
3. Personally I am happy with the service
4. It does now
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You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.
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You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.
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republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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I know, it would have to be bought elsewhere.
Otherwise, good chance RW 4.4.2 phones will never be rooted.
Unless you luck out and can get a code from the Chinese seller.
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The phone can be unlocked if you BUY the unlock code. Mine personally is unlocked from the first go around.
To answer your questions:
1) If you order the phone and receive it running 4.2.2, then yes, you can root the phone, then safestrap and upgrade to 4.4.2 using the guide in the General section. If you receive the phone running 4.4.2 then your only hope is to unlock your bootloader via the China middleman.
2)There are no custom ROMs that support the custom software that RW bakes into their ROM to make their services work. If your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash all you want, just won't work as a cellphone.
3)I love the Moto X and RW service. Sprint is not always the best, but I get coverage most everywhere I travel, plus I get WiFi in most everywhere I go.
4)For now, new phones bought directly from RW should still come running 4.2.2 until their stock runs out. Don't know what a new phone from Motomaker would come with. Their KK ROM is generally debloated aside from all of Googles apps and HPs Printer plugin.
Thanks for the info ...
Does anyone know ...
1. if I buy a Moto X straight from motomaker, or used on craigslist ... can I flash it with the Republic ROM?
2. If I buy a Republic moto ... can I later flash it to use with a Simple Mobile SIM card?
thanks
You won't be flashing anything that requires a custom recovery if you get either with 4.4.2 installed, cause you won't have root. Or an unlocked bootloader. Unless you get lucky and the unlock codes are still available for 45 dollars and your phone is in his list.
That's what I was trying to say previously.
OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?
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OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?
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You can't unlock motomakers either tho.
Unless you're talking about getting the dev edition.
Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?
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Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?
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Any nexus 5 can be rooted. Just unlock bootloader and you're off.
That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...
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That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...
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You may need to confirm with a google search, but yes.
There's only one north american model of the n5, and it works on most any carrier, except Verizon apparently.
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I would google "nexus 5 [carrier name]" to see if out works on the specific carrier you want.
I've been planning on the Moto X from Republic Wireless. It sounds like from Moto Maker they are coming with 4.4.2, so I can only hope the guy selling codes is still doing so and can unlock mine, otherwise wait and pray they find a way to unlock 4.4.2 on RW..
If not, I hope I can live with a generally stock phone.. It does seem like the Moto X is pretty good all around as it is, so maybe it won't be so bad :fingers-crossed:
I have used RW for about 2 or 3 months and I am planning to switch to something like T-mobile for various reasons. all the reasons that annoy me enough to switch are somewhat small stuff but that's just me.
the reasons are: no emoji support, no 3rd party texting app supported fully (texting works mms doesn't), slower than the rest software updates (we got our 4.4.2 update, if I'm not mistaken, last), and my biggest annoyance with them is not allowing me to unlock my phone (but I eventually did it anyways).
I also feel like they don't listen to the community as much as they should but they sure as hell listen to it more than a big carrier.
anyways that' just my opinion, I might add a few things to this list if I think of them.
Was really considering the phone, but Telus sells the 16GB one. And I am not sure how they will cripple Moto's fast updates. Any Canadian owners, leave your thoughts. I am better off going with the Pure Version?
The only thing telus has done with their moto x is the branding in the status bar and a shortcut to the mytelus account Web app
I don't expect them to take long for other updates.
Mine didn't even come with the Telus MyAccount app at all? It seems like there's actually nothing here (locked phone aside)
The "My Telus" app is in the play store. There really isn't anything on the phone that should delay the update. Part of telus' marketing for this phone has been something along these lines: Pure Style, pure performance with the fastest updates. Im expecting to get the update at the same time as the pure edition or maybe after a few days of network testing.
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You can actually remove the TELUS branding in status bar form network settings if you want.
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According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.
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According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.
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Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?
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Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?
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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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ah ok thanks! I am thinking of getting the Pure, but I forgot us Canucks cannot buy it
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
snoopstah said:
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.
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I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.
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Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.
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Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.
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You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?
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You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?
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I bought the phone from telus then unlocked it. I cost me about 690$ after tax (quebec tax).
Its a good choice
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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.
Does anyone know when is the end of the Telus exclusivity period?
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I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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Yes it do unlocked. and in cheap way. i got mine unlocked from http://phoneunlockingshop.ca
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I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.
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how did you do it? i cant get any methods to work