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Are you waiting for the Google edition/Developer edition?

Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.

SysAdmNj said:
Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.
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i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.

dwd3885 said:
i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.
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I hear you, same with me. I'd have to buy off contract either way and dont feel at&t needs more of my money. But you say developer edition which would most likely be on the Motorola website? What about the Google edition version that is rumored to come out? Aren't these the same companies, why make it so confusing lol.

It would be nice to have some idea of how long we have to wait......

I defently waiting. Want my unlocked bootloader...I dont want to wait to see if someone can unlock the regular bootloader. I am on Verizon...so I also need to pay full price to keep my unlimited data
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Price is what will decide it for me.

I am considering the purchase of a Developer Edition phone only because of the price of it. I am thinking it would be cheaper to purchase it from Google than it would be to buy it off contract from the carrier. But if it is the same price then I will just get it from my carrier. The colour designing of it isnt important to me.

News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.

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News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.
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The address book software doesn't get in the way. Usually it pops up on phones like the One, but on the X, I haven't seen it yet.
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I'm definitely waiting for a developer unlocked edition. Don't want carrier bloat and waiting for bootloader unlock and random issues.

I'll likely return mine that I bought at AT&T when a dev edition is out or news of one. I forget how much I HATE the carrier having more control over my device than me.

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Developer Edition
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorolas-own-website-outs-the-32GB-Motorola-Moto-X-Developer-Edition_id46737

I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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Yeah...if not I'm just gonna go with the Motomaker version and unlock the bootloader another way which probably has been done already.

So what's the chance of Verizon getting an unlocked developers edition?
What was the last phone Verizon allowed unlocked out of the box on their network?

compatibility with theoretical future unlocked stock?
Question: Let's say in the future some brilliant dev-type finds a root & bootloader unlock exploit for the non-dev edition of the VZW Moto X. Would ROMs developed for that phone (the rooted/unlocked VZW stock Moto X) be compatible with the Dev Edition? Does anyone know how this has worked with previous Dev Editions?
I'm just wondering in the situation described above, whether the people who shelled out for Dev Edition early on could find themselves with a much smaller mod/dev community to draw upon than people who wait around for a potential (but maybe never coming) future unlock of the device. Would the two VZW versions of the Moto X (Dev and stock) be essentially the same device aside from bootloader, and therefore have compatibility?
I know this is all conjecture until we see an actual Dev Edition on VZW (which might not happen) but I'd be interested in thoughts.

Roms would work on both developer and regular version. One plus would be 32 GB . im hoping Verizon will get developer with the extra storage.
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Well with current rumors pegging it at around $500+, I sense this phone failing commercially.
It's just too much money.
I get Moto wants this to be their "iPhone" but if you wanted to massively pull the rug out from under their feet, you would stick this thing's non contract price around the rumors for the 5C price, which is $300-$400.

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Moto X Dev edition shipping to Canada?

Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?

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Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?
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We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable
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Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?

mrbuddy said:
Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?
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Fresh phone roughly 11 GB free space, yes Rogers moto can he unlocked through Motorola, the only downside is you lose your warranty. I tool Tue plunge right away and don't regret it for a moment
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flashallthetime said:
We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.

zAlbee said:
Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.
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The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.

Steve-x said:
The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.
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Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...

zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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You can always flash the tmobile sbf firmware with there modems and you're good to go but you need to unlock your bootloader
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Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile. I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
Thanks
Also, FYI the model number on the box reads 00337NADEV which is what's listed on Motorola's specs sheet for AT&T/T-mobile's GSM Developer Edition while the FCC ID is IHDT56PA2 which corresponds to the XT1053 variant so hopefully everything works out (fingers crossed)

mikey-89 said:
Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile.
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Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
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I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
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I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)

Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.

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Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)
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That's great news! Thanks I'll be sure to check the APN settings also. Hopefully this thread clears up the situation for anyone else. I've been eyeing this device for a long time very excited to finally have one. How are the data speeds on Wind? I read they just recently finished upgrading all their towers to the HSPA+ standard and are now working on rolling out dual carrier HSPA+ also . Will be interesting to see how it fairs against Rogers 3G network once I get the phone and how well the Moto X's antenna can pick up Wind's signals
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Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.
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Bummer. The nexus 5 seems like a great device though was seriously considering it but touchless control and active display features of the moto x won me over.

Don't expect LTE speeds obviously, but they are fast enough for everything I do and I never worry about speeds. That includes streaming YouTube and music on my commute.
Anyway, i just did 5 speed tests standing in the same spot. The server was a bigger factor than the network I found. From top to bottom: Start, Teksavvy, Vmedia, Zero fail, Zero fail. All servers were listed as 14km away in "Toronto". I'm pretty sure this app is just computing the distance to downtown and not the actual server...
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Developer Edition worth the extra $$

So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???

In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
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rweddy1 said:
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Great points. I loved Eclipse ROM on my G. Nexus, have to look into that once I get the Dev Edition.

It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
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Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I am not sure, I referring to the Verizon Edition, GSM might be different.

Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Here you go.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
That shows the frequencies per model.
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It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Fair enough. It's a total guess about what they will do with the UI. I can say with a high degree of confidence that they won't update the X and add their UI. Going forward though, you never know. I'd hope they'd just push and market Motos existing strategy, but that's my consumer side hope. I would think the near AOSP UI that Moto has could be enough to provide the product difference they want to separate them from everyone else without some silly skin like TV.
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[Q] Thinking of buying the 2013 Moto X

Hi,
I currently own a Nexus S, customized with AOSP Kitkat ROM. While this is a wonderful device, I think the time has come to change it. 512MB of RAM is just way too low for KitKat and newer apps that are RAM hungry. However, I don't like big phones. I like my Nexus S because it is small and fits everywhere. My brother has a Nexus 5 and it just doesn't fit in my hand. The screen is beautiful, but it is too big for my hand.
I was passing by a carrier store last week and came accross the Moto X and Moto G, both last generation. Both are the same physical size, even though the screen on the Moto G is 4.5inches and the X is 4.7. They fit pretty well in my hands and I love their design. It is also a great thing that it is running nearly stock Android with Motorola applications.
I know the Moto X isn't the most powerful phone on the market, and this isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a nice upgrade with features that I like and a device that feels good in my hands.
Is the device worth it ? Are the Motorola extra features (Moto Assist, Active Display, Touchless controls) working fine ? I can easily imagine my Moto X docked in my car and me asking it for directions or change songs. I can't do that with the Nexus S; it is way too weak in power.
Do you know if I have to keep the stock launcher to get those features ? I really enjoy Apex.
How's the battery life ? I am usually not power hungry as I don't play games on my phone or even watch videos. I listen to music, check rss feeds and social networks.
Lastely, what would you change to the (old) Moto X ? From the reviews that I have read, I understand that the screen isn't incredible, but would you say that it is an issue ?
Thanks for any input
Neo.

Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.

What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display

Was in the same situation as u 2 months ago, coming from a droid 3. Was looking at moto x and maxx, but battery was a huge plus for me, and went with the maxx, and I couldn't be happier with my choice. Although, it is a 5 inch screen.
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KJ said:
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
Just my opinion. ?
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Thanks. It did answer if a third party launcher can be installed and keep Motorola features. The answer is yes
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
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I am in Canada, so the device costs more. In fact, I can't really buy the device anymore in Canada and would have to import it from the US. More of a hassle, but may be worth it. I could get the 16GB XT1058 for about 300$USD shipped.
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What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
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I am currently with Koodo (Telus) in Canada, but I would buy an unlocked device or unlock it myself. Rogers and Fido had the Moto X as an exclusive here in Canada. You couldn't buy the Moto X anywhere else than these carriers store. So if I wanna get a Moto X on Koodo, I must unlock it anyway. As for the Droid Maxx, I've read many times that the radio isn't working properly in Canada. I would have to dig a bit.
On another note, I was looking at how to root the Moto X and it is much more complicated than my Nexus S. If I can get a Dev edition it would be easier but they are hard to find (and not cheap). Gotta love Nexus devices for that reason !

You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.

KJ said:
You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?

The best buy in the last couple of years. I definitly recommend it. I always was the type of person, who felt like having to fiddle a lot with the phone, to fulfill my needs. (I came from LG devices). I always rooted and installed custom ROMs. But believe it or not, I still dont feel the need to root or install a different Software, since the stock ROM runs amazingly great on my phone. I also had the G in my hands, but the X display is way better. Camera... Well it is not the best, but also not as bad as many said. Battery is amazin. And although I already had phones with more capacity, this one lasts longer by far. I also listen to a LOT of music and the phone still gets me through the day quite easily. But there is one thing I would consider. The new 2014 X. For me personally, the screen is too big, but maybe it will be just right for you? And yeah it does not have killer specs, but the phone is definitly smoother than other flagship phones, which often laag due to the extra ("great"/"special") custom UI.
Those are my 2 cents. Hope it helps a bit
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I think it would be quite an upgrade for you and still worth it..
If you have any specific questions feel free to post here or message me

spookyneo said:
Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.

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KJ said:
Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better

$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????

spookyneo said:
OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.

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$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.

spookyneo said:
I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.

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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one

spookyneo said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Yup. ?
Kijiji.

Anyone having any luck getting the Moto X on contract in the UK?

Can only find it on mobile phones direct, an online only retailer. And they're taking forever to ship it, and pretty much lied to me about their stock.
So does anyone in the UK know anywhere stocking it? This phone seems so damn hard to get a hold of

I haven't seen it on any network anywhere. I heard P4U had an exclusive on it, but since they've gone bang.....

Yea I think that's what's screwing us over here, the phone seems to be stuck in limbo.
I ended up ordering it via mobile phones direct, they've told me it would be here tomorrow everyday for a week now. Initially was meant to be here last friday. Rung up today and they've told me it is delayed for a week. Could really do with someone else selling it

Clove have them SIM-free:
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-moto-x
As well as Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Moto-Smartphone-Black-Resin/dp/B00NBU1MZS

EddyOS said:
Clove have them SIM-free:
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-moto-x
As well as Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-Moto-Smartphone-Black-Resin/dp/B00NBU1MZS
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Yea I'm after a contract

Still no news on the Moto X being on any network. I can't really dish out the nearly £500 for the 32GB
Has anyone heard anything?

Mobilephonesdirect.co.uk are the only provider I've found so far, received mine a couple of days ago

I find it really strange after all the good reviews of this phone, its like the networks are shunning Motorola. I've had online chats with o2 and I've had responses usually worded "we have no updates for this device" I wish they'd just give a yes/no about if its coming soon or not

lennyboi77 said:
I find it really strange after all the good reviews of this phone, its like the networks are shunning Motorola. I've had online chats with o2 and I've had responses usually worded "we have no updates for this device" I wish they'd just give a yes/no about if its coming soon or not
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I spoke with EE who is my provider and they said that they had no idea if they would get the phone because Motorola phones do not sell well (with them).
I played with the Z3 on Wednesday and REALLY liked it. It would have been better if it was close to pure android BUT given the unfortunate circumstances with the lack of availability from the Moto X, I will be purchasing the Z3 this weekend.

I think the networks are missing a trick here, some people are after a stock android experience and the size of the nexus 6 will put some off so will be wanting a device like the moto x.

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I think the networks are missing a trick here, some people are after a stock android experience and the size of the nexus 6 will put some off so will be wanting a device like the moto x.
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I was one of those who was put off by the size of the Nexus 6. Maybe it is Motorola's interest to push the Nexus before its other phones?!

texaslittleangel said:
I was one of those who was put off by the size of the Nexus 6. Maybe it is Motorola's interest to push the Nexus before its other phones?!
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I was going to hold off for the Nexus 6, but after looking around I decided I don't want a handset of that size.
The New Moto X (2014) really took my fancy and my brother bigged up the Moto X (2013) so after a lot of hunting around on the net and trying to get the New Moto X as an upgrade from my service provider with no luck as they haven't heard of it.
I found Mobile Phones Direct on the net and placed my order a few days ago. It arrived yesterday and I unlocked the bootloader (followed guide on Motorola website) straight out of the box and then once loosely set up I rooted it (followed the guides in this forum) to bring back the exposed goodness that I love.
The phone looks great and feels great in the hand, love rooted stock KitKat with exposed.

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I found Mobile Phones Direct on the net and placed my order a few days ago. It arrived yesterday.
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Can I ask is there any network branding on it? Mines coming Monday on EE, also from Mobile phones direct. I figured (hoped) as none of the networks seem to be offering it themselves MPD might just be selling the SIM free model with a contract

Hello there,
No branding or bloatware on the phone at all.

wiggy6230 said:
Hello there,
No branding or bloatware on the phone at all.
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Excellent, thanks for that... Just what I was hoping you would say

Does that mean that mobilephonesdirect sells the pure edition? In spite of their nice price, I would hate ending up with a locked bootloader at the end

kjozsa said:
Does that mean that mobilephonesdirect sells the pure edition? In spite of their nice price, I would hate ending up with a locked bootloader at the end
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Going by model number (XT1092 Europe, Asia) its not a Pure Edition (XT1095) but according to the table at this link:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(2nd_generation) its SIM Unlocked.
The bootloader was easily unlocked by following the guides in this forum and on the Motorola website (did it as part of my first boot up)
Then rooted after basic set up.