[Discussion] Android 4.4 - will we get a stable? (show your opinion) - HTC Incredible S

Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?

gavraz said:
Hi everyone,
I must say that android 4.4 sounds like a great improvement for us as our device is getting older \=
However, I'm afraid that we may not get a stable rom running this version. I mean' we might get some rom that some how runs it, but still as many roms to our device thease days - they are not stable at all.
So what do you think? will we get it or not?
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Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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poondog said:
Lol why not @szezso is working on it. We are moving away from CM and going towards something closer to AOSP because of the changes in cm. Fyi.
The CM ROMs by szezso are basically stable..
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With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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james1196 said:
With this kid ^ as per usual. Szezso is a good dev. Its just another update. Hopefully it is as 'light' as they say. So it runs well.
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I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition

poondog said:
I'll find out soon when Google/HTC decide to release kit kat for N7 and One Google edition
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My Nexus 5 will have it
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I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.

gavraz said:
I'm sorry but I don't think szesco's roms are stable enough. I do appreciate his and contribution of course but since he doesn't have much time and also has many projects simultaneously, it results with poor stability and discontinued projects.
I'm using lacost rom and that one also is very poor like many other. It seems like it's better to use Android 2.3 based roms.
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What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.

072665995 said:
What do you define by stable...
Cuz the way I define stable is good enough to be a daily driver with the RARE random rebooting.
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What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.

gavraz said:
What rom do you use? I think I would define such a rom as stable too.
With lacost rom I'm experiancing every day (and sometimes more the once) situations were an app stops to respond or something and the whole phone get stuck, nothing responses. sometimes I have to wait, sometimes I have no other option but to remove the battery.
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You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.

4.4 for HTC S2 will be dream coming true especially for phone with low memory.
JB from sezscoz is stable.. But i do find a lag in scrolling or navigating to diff app or setting etc..

Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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LamboBull said:
Well, 4.4 is basically 4.3 with a couple of changes, and it was also designed to run on 512mb of ram, so if we got 4.3, i dont see a limitation on 4.4
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It would be quite different taking into account its 'More' Pure AOSP rather than CM. It does look a bit different and apparently far 'lighter'.
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072665995 said:
You can't compare ROM stability to app stability. I've seen lots of cases where apps just stop responding and that really doesn't have much to do with the ROM being unstable.
With the phone getting stuck from time to time, I experience no such problem or VERY RARELY on each AOSP ROM here. Sometimes, you may lose responsiveness but you can just lock your screen and then unlock it and that will fix it.
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Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?

gavraz said:
Oh of course, I know. It isn't a specific app, sometimes it's the chrome sometimes whatsapp or Trebuchet launcher sometimes I don't even know what app causes it.
Something with the rom isn't right... the whole phone just stops responding.
I had love to use that AOSP rom, any recommendations on a specific one?
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I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.

072665995 said:
I recommend CyanVivoX. Very stable and pretty much no bugs.
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CM build are very nice, but battery optimizations are bad.
On Sense roms my phone is working about 3-4 days!
And CM roms kill my IncS battery for 1-2 days

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Is CyanogenMod 7 Stable on Captivate

Is CyanogenMod 7 Stable enough to use every day on The Captivate. Thanks
Short answer: Yes.
Remember though that this is still in Beta. There's also a dedicated Q&A for CM7, and also a dedicated thread in the Dev forum as well. I suggest you to check for the list of current bugs and changelogs here: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...7-for-samsung-galaxy-s-phones-build-20110303/
I've been using it for about 10 days, and i find it to be one of the most stable 'roms' ive used. There are a couple of features that are not here yet, or not working properly, but nothing that stops me from using the phone day to day. Its fast, it looks good, and is the android experience I've been looking for.
kwhee07 said:
I've been using it for about 10 days, and i find it to be one of the most stable 'roms' ive used. There are a couple of features that are not here yet, or not working properly, but nothing that stops me from using the phone day to day. Its fast, it looks good, and is the android experience I've been looking for.
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I agree 100%
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Its stable I went back to Serendipty because the battery life was killing me though. Just my 2 cents.
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Short answer: Not even close.
Unless you consider 6-8 hours of standby useable battery life.
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The people who say it is stable enough for everyday use are not utilizing all of the phone's functions or are willing to live without certain features.
Miami_Son said:
The people who say it is stable enough for everyday use are not utilizing all of the phone's functions or are willing to live without certain features.
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Agreed! It is stable enough, but you will loose some features, such as the camera is buggy and others, just check the CM7 thread for known issues. I suppose if u can live w/o those working property, then sure. For me, was not ready for a daily driver rom yet!
It is very stable. I would recommend using TheEscapist's kernel, which lets you OC and UV. By UVing I actually get better battery life out of it than I did the 2.2 roms.
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I tried this ROM for couple of weeks .
I am uninstalling because I was not able to get ADB working with this room. Device was not getting listed in my computer.
I was using it for a couple of weeks and today I switched back to serendipity only because of the external sd card mounting issues as well as a few other glitches, once they get the little things sorted out I will switch back in a heartbeat, its a great rom with many awesome features.
msreekm said:
I tried this ROM for couple of weeks .
I am uninstalling because I was not able to get ADB working with this room. Device was not getting listed in my computer.
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I believe you have to install the nexus s usb drivers to get that to work. I think it's mentioned in the faq.
Overall, the rom is stable in the sense that you can make phone calls, text, gps, wifi, and doesn't crash. Battery life isn't quite optimal and there will be some things that don't work or are buggy. When people say it isn't stable, it's more that it isn't fully featured or bug free. It works fine for doing phone tasks but may not meet your smart phone tasks.
I am currently on cm7.
The rom does have bugs but every rom out there has some sort of bug. So I think its pretty even. And I get decent battery life too..
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bluemoon1221 said:
I am currently on cm7.
The rom does have bugs but every rom out there has some sort of bug. So I think its pretty even. And I get decent battery life too..
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Not even close to even. Many roms out there have no repeatable bugs.
No one is saying that CM7 is crap. It is what it is and hopefully will get better. If you can deal with bad battery life, several bugs, don't use all your phones features, and can trouble shoot problems, yes CM7 might be fun as a daily driver. If you answer no to any of the above, use one of the MANY 2.2 or 2.2.1 roms out there that are proven to work fantastically until CM7 goes RC.
The missing features argument is often over stated. I can only think of two, can't mount external sd, camera is not as good. Otherwise everything works
MIUI
mcord11758 said:
The missing features argument is often over stated. I can only think of two, can't mount external sd, camera is not as good. Otherwise everything works
MIUI
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I agree 100%. I've been using it since it was first posted and it performs great for me...16+ hour on my battery. External SD not mounting is not an issue for me and as for the camera I use Vignette and it takes great pictures. It has been and will be my daily driver since the day it was released.
I don't use my phone for work our anything important, just communication, media, web, and entertainment. I can't imagine having to go back to 2.2 for any reason.
Sarcoid said:
I believe you have to install the nexus s usb drivers to get that to work. I think it's mentioned in the faq.
Overall, the rom is stable in the sense that you can make phone calls, text, gps, wifi, and doesn't crash. Battery life isn't quite optimal and there will be some things that don't work or are buggy. When people say it isn't stable, it's more that it isn't fully featured or bug free. It works fine for doing phone tasks but may not meet your smart phone tasks.
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Yes you have to have Nexus Drivers for Computer to see your phone.
MikeyMike01 said:
Short answer: Not even close.
Unless you consider 6-8 hours of standby useable battery life.
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Is this really all you can get?
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You can get atleast
twice that
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Is this really all you can get?
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MIUI

Roms etc. to check out?

Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
mrapoc said:
Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
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First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
nathan96 said:
First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
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Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
mrapoc said:
Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
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Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
nathan96 said:
Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
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Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
mrapoc said:
Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
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Well, you are going to enjoy the Nexus experience
Wellcome!
Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Oxious119 said:
Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Glad it can be of help - i dont want to take away from other developers of roms, but a starting place is always handy especially considering the sheer amount of development this phone has!
Anyway, i'll be following this guide when I get mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGZuxeTvWhY
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n0In32vjxIg
I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
mrapoc said:
Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
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And you have them... PA, crDroid, and Vanir to start...
Welcome!
I love customizing everything, so from the beginning I was on AOKP. Loved it but i think it was a little heavier than necessary..
after that I used Xylon - ( now Uxylon) which was awesome, smooth and fast, plenty of features.. but its still 4.2.2, so I had to leave it behind eventually.
Currently I'm on Slim Rom Beta, 4.3 and I'm loving it. So give it a try!
Rocking Purity & AK kernel today and loving it
Most of the roms are good in their own way...
if you want speed or customization...
Slimbean is great and of course psx
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You can also check a thread in general about a poll on which rom people are using. i mean, just based from that, you can have the number of nexus 4 users, what the best rom in common people use (you wouldn't know your best if you hadn't tried the others right?) and just a few mods also you can use that will give you what you want. Just have fun in the mako forum and all the best mate :good:
Rasbeanjelly and PSX are great if you are looking for a pure and latest AOSP experience.
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Vanir, PSX, Rasbean
neo kernel, faux kernel, Hells core, AK JSS
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Got the phone, unlocked, flashed latest pa and xposed. I'm very satisfied so far. My HTC one s didn't come close to this at all.
Now I have 2 questions. What's this JSS and JWW all about?
And can anyone recommend a kernel for PA?
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Kitkat, Deadlock Free

I usually dont post these kinds of threads, so this one is an extreme rarity.
How many of you all are as relieved as i am that Kitkat is deadlock free? How many of you that ran jss/jls builds are relieved that they havent had a deadlock since trying out one of the Kitkat builds? And especially, how many of you are happy that the jwr vs jss/jls confusion is finally over. i am! im overjoyed that we have finally past this moment of suffing and confusion
what do you think? is anyone else as happy as i am? i cant be alone here..
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I usually dont post these kinds of threads, so this one is an extreme rarity.
How many of you all are as relieved as i am that Kitkat is deadlock free? How many of you that ran jss/jls builds are relieved that they havent had a deadlock since trying out one of the Kitkat builds? And especially, how many of you are happy that the jwr vs jss/jls confusion is finally over. i am! im overjoyed that we have finally past this moment of suffing and confusion
what do you think? is anyone else as happy as i am? i cant be alone here..
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actually since PA and Slim team has JSS/JWR hybrid I haven't had any deadlock.
simms22 said:
I usually dont post these kinds of threads, so this one is an extreme rarity.
How many of you all are as relieved as i am that Kitkat is deadlock free? How many of you that ran jss/jls builds are relieved that they havent had a deadlock since trying out one of the Kitkat builds? And especially, how many of you are happy that the jwr vs jss/jls confusion is finally over. i am! im overjoyed that we have finally past this moment of suffing and confusion
what do you think? is anyone else as happy as i am? i cant be alone here..
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passed
suffering
and still deadlock free with a jss kernel on kitkat, yeah, that's cool
and yes single release > multiple
i'll be happy when kitkat comes out officially so we can get some custom stuff going. The Nexus 5 port is good for now. Also never heard of JLS builds. Just jwr/jss.
Isn't there a chance google could still release another build since nothing has been officially OTA yet. So not free from jss/jwr stuff yet?
dark_ente said:
actually since PA and Slim team has JSS/JWR hybrid I haven't had any deadlock.
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hybrids dont count, it essentially got turned into a jwr rom.
What is a deadlock?
I'm very excited i will be able to use aosp roms again without deadlocks Cant wait to get the new kernel
PoisonWolf said:
What is a deadlock?
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It occurs sometimes when you type in an app (like Whatsapp, for instance).
The Keyboard and in fact the entire system locks up and you can't do anything about it.
Most of the time the screen still registers your inputs (which you can verify by activating the vibrate feedback) but the system doesn't react.
Sometimes these lockups only last a few seconds, sometimes the entire phone locks up completely so you have to restart it, though that is rare (at least for me it didn't happen yet).
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its something that every user of a jss/jls rom experienced. some much more than others, but everyone experienced. while typing, the keyboard and everything else would lockup, for 10-30 seconds, then continue like nothing happened. for many, it would also happen in random times, and in random app. for some people, it happened constantly, for others it was a once in a while occurence.
I am totally relieved with KITKAT coming as a HERO and kicking out the a$$ of JWR/JSS kernel,ROMs..
Imagine, No wait why imagine - Now threads will be question free which version is this JWR/JSS? Which kernel should flash?
All the developer/OPs will be happy, relieved that they have no need to mention in the thread about this JWR/JSS sh*t.
All good,All KITKATTY..
morfic said:
passed
suffering
and still deadlock free with a jss kernel on kitkat, yeah, that's cool
and yes single release > multiple
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You're telling me you can run jss kernels on kit Kat!!!?
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infiltrata said:
You're telling me you can run jss kernels on kit Kat!!!?
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Actually it's hearsay, since it's coming from Simms22 though, I take it as fact.
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morfic said:
Actually it's hearsay, since it's coming from Simms22 though, I take it as fact.
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Good with me, testing with Trinity
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Good with me, testing with Trinity
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only thing is wifi wont work. but i dont use wifi at all
I am happy too, I never wanted to use any JSS rom because of deadlocks. Now it's time for my N4 to try CM for the first time (when it's out lol).
well @simms22 I am having really big lag in kit kat...
Maybe a hybrid jellykat is comming... :good:
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well @simms22 I am having really big lag in kit kat...
Maybe a hybrid jellykat is comming... :good:
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lag, really? try trinity with it if losing wifi isnt a big deal. or, you can try ART hidden in the developer settings. its kinda like the custom dalviks that we were using in 4.3, only built in. it speeds things up. you will need odexed gapps for it to work though, or you wont boot. heres pa gapps odexed https://db.tt/EJ59aseZ
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lag, really? try trinity with it if losing wifi isnt a big deal. or, you can try ART hidden in the developer settings. its kinda like the custom dalviks that we were using in 4.3, only built in. it speeds things up. you will need odexed gapps for it to work though, or you wont boot. heres pa gapps odexed https://db.tt/EJ59aseZ
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So is it definitively true that 4.3 kernels work with 4.4? I need wifi, cause my data plan is not the biggest one so I think I will wait to custom kernels (which will be now very more useful than in 4.3). It's a pity, since 4.4 is more battery efficient for me.
I think this low RAM consumption and better battery life is due to the accomodation of 4.4 to devices with lower specs than nexus 4 so developers will have to re-manage RAM to adapt it to our original neccessities...
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So is it definitively true that 4.3 kernels work with 4.4? I need wifi, cause my data plan is not the biggest one so I think I will wait to custom kernels (which will be now very more useful than in 4.3). It's a pity, since 4.4 is more battery efficient for me.
I think this low RAM consumption and better battery life is due to the accomodation of 4.4 to devices with lower specs than nexus 4 so developers will have to re-manage RAM to adapt it to our original neccessities...
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well, all the 4.4 roms are still using the 4.3 binaries. so they arent true 4.4 roms, but hybrids. 4.3 kernels might not work with the 4.4 binaries. plus im sure that there are lots of other goodies that we are missing out on at the moment.
It was always beyond me why anyone ran buggy jss roms when there was perfectly fine jwr releases. I've never even seen a deadlock.

Addiction

I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
Paradelle said:
I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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Where is the post of that semi stable build?Can't find it.
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A test build of 4.4 has been posted by Thomas on his OmniROM thread - it does have a couple of showstopper bugs like calls not going out and screen flashing everytime you select something (there's a hack around this) as well as broken GPS. It is out there though.
Paradelle said:
I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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Don't worry, we've all been there
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Paradelle said:
I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
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I am rooted with CWM recovery (Commonly Weak Recovery) but I am still addicted to flash about every girl I can find. Even though I get settled with one I truly like, I think myself 'ooooh, I still wish I could try the one with the different eye colour or shape.
Paradelle said:
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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Flash addiction is a difficult to cure disease. Welcome to our sick club x)
Thank you! It is nice to know I'm not alone. I'm quite certain that I'll be buying my next phone purely on how many roms/kernels are available for it.
I had the same problem with my Xperia Arc. Pretty annoying sometimes when my phone didn't work properly when i needed it hha. But it was fun.
Weird thing is that i don't feel the need to do the same with this phone, i feel like the last jb firmware Works perfect and i don't have the need to mess with it. I rooted this phone a few months ago but it resulted in a performance decrease. So i.haven't felt the need to root again since then.
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I rooted this phone a few months ago but it resulted in a performance decrease. So i.haven't felt the need to root again since then.
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Any explanation for this?
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
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hahhahahah...so true! I love your message!
i used to be exactly the same i have calmed down a lot now i used to flash a rom at least once a day even if it was one i had used a couple of days ago just to see the difference the rom i am currently using makes if any or i would grow tireless knowing i have the ability to flash new roms but was not doing so .... i bricked a few galaxy ace's in the early days when i didn't know what i was doing and thought i could skip steps etc but once i knew what i was doing there was no stopping me i became that addicted i was flashing my friends phones with different roms too .... i have calmed down a lot now flashing only 3 - 4 times a week instead of the 7 - 100000000000000000's of times a week
(100000000000000000's is not literal but just a way of expressing countless amounts of times)
i think i have had almost all JB roms running on my T at least twice now i flick between omni, honami v5, and keep trying the 4.3 version of pacman from buildbasket waiting for a stable release .... honami is my daily because i get to use doomkernel and OC and its got enough tweaks in it to make me feel like im not stuck on boring stock rom lol for me im always looking for functions and OC and unfortunatly unless you ar on stock OC just isnt there .... sure on one of the AOKP projects you can OC to 1.7 but thats a whole 0.2 less than on a stock with doomkernel might not sound like much but it can make a difference also doomkernel comes with governors that are tweaked for dual core again something that is missing from CM AOKP etc ....... hopefully omni will resolve this issue for me and i can spread my wings a little once they have a few more settings and OC / governors are fixed up
I think I've flashed every ROM on XDA at least three times. Just in case I was missing something. The odd thing is that almost every time I flash a new ROM, I think it's better than the previous one. Which is mental. I must have flashed Rimmer's MIUI ROM 6 times. Every time I flash it I love it because it's beautiful. Then 12 hours later I get annoyed at having all the apps on the homescreen as I like it to be minimal, so I flash another ROM.
Two days later I flash it back because it's beautiful. And on and on.
*sigh*
Normally I use either peetr_'s Hybrid ROM with Doomkernel, or CM 10.2. I find Hybrid with the kernel OC is snappier, I find CM 10.2 to be smoother. These are the two I return to on a regular basis. I always feel like I'm cheating on them, both with each other and with any of the other ROMs. Again, this is mental!
Very excited for when the T gets 4.3 and we get a kernel that can be OC!
Also, I like the XDA community. Every seems nice and chilled. Generally.
Paradelle said:
I think I've flashed every ROM on XDA at least three times. Just in case I was missing something. The odd thing is that almost every time I flash a new ROM, I think it's better than the previous one. Which is mental. I must have flashed Rimmer's MIUI ROM 6 times. Every time I flash it I love it because it's beautiful. Then 12 hours later I get annoyed at having all the apps on the homescreen as I like it to be minimal, so I flash another ROM.
Two days later I flash it back because it's beautiful. And on and on.
*sigh*
Normally I use either peetr_'s Hybrid ROM with Doomkernel, or CM 10.2. I find Hybrid with the kernel OC is snappier, I find CM 10.2 to be smoother. These are the two I return to on a regular basis. I always feel like I'm cheating on them, both with each other and with any of the other ROMs. Again, this is mental!
Very excited for when the T gets 4.3 and we get a kernel that can be OC!
Also, I like the XDA community. Every seems nice and chilled. Generally.
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im not always nice and chilled i get annoyed at noobs who ask things that have been answered hundreds of times or state something as a fact when the rest of the world know it is something completely different but i try to keep a lid on it although im sure it hasnt gone unnoticed when i have let off the steam lol .... MIUI is a really tasty rom and is real nice but i feel like i am back on iOS too much with it ... all the greatness of android with all the rubbish of iOS lol and if you install another launcher it just isn't the same the launcher was designed for that rom so why put a new one on there when there are lots of other roms to try ..... i love the honami rom like all roms it has its limits and its bugs and its by far not the quickest one out there but it serves most of my needs out the box i just wish somebody would fix up pacman rom on 4.3 had repeated problems with it not restarting instead going into bootloop after installing roms .... i will openly admit i don't know everything as i can not build my own rom i wish i knew how as i would gladly take on building pacman rom 4.3 .... anyway enjoy your T flash until you discover that magic rom .... it might even be 4.4 once they have that up and running smoothly .... once omni gets its features that will almost certainly become my daily but its just a little basic for my needs at the current time lol .... if i can help out in any ways just give me a shout i might be able to help if not im sure somebody else will be able to between the who communities collective there is a vast amount of knowledge to be tapped into
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Any explanation for this?
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I think it was caused by greenify but i'm not sure.
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I think it was caused by greenify but i'm not sure.
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I had this impression regarding Greenify, especially since the auto-greenify feature is implemented. I can't imagine that rooting would slow down the phone.
Actually my V's stock ROM is a very good compromise in between performance, stability and fluid use. The 4.12 is rock solid and virtually lag free on my device. Well I flashed Honami Experience, but that is stock based.
Yes, it is very hard to resist this addiction ..I even infected my GF. She have Galaxy mini (terrible display) with CM10.1 some mods ..still better than stock sammy ROM.
Before Xperia T I have ACE 2 and I hated that lack of ROMs on this phone. So , after 5 months with this phone i bought T. and now I am in paradise .
Almost every day a CM or Miui update and now i flashed OmniROM from Tilal.. What a great feeling with 4.4.
Thanks OP for this Rom, made me smile
In truth, I have gone completely the other way, I used to be a flashaholic and flash new roms daily, it started with the X10 and i then bought an Xperia T off the shelf just so I could unlock the B/L - having played with everything there is to offer on here for the last year I finally trailed off flashing and the other day I flash an official stock Rom and re-locked my bootloader so as to get official 4.3 through SEUS or PCC
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Thanks OP for this Rom, made me smile
In truth, I have gone completely the other way, I used to be a flashaholic and flash new roms daily, it started with the X10 and i then bought an Xperia T off the shelf just so I could unlock the B/L - having played with everything there is to offer on here for the last year I finally trailed off flashing and the other day I flash an official stock Rom and re-locked my bootloader so as to get official 4.3 through SEUS or PCC
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lol I was just about to do the same thing when tilal released his 4.4 OmniRom. It's excellent. Now, I'm not trying to suggest you come back to the darkside, but it's well worth a flash...
Paradelle said:
lol I was just about to do the same thing when tilal released his 4.4 OmniRom. It's excellent. Now, I'm not trying to suggest you come back to the darkside, but it's well worth a flash...
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i must resieeeeeeeessssssttttt....
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I'll see how the next official release goes then consider my options, maybe unlock my B/L again, we'll see!!
spromper said:
Weird thing is that i don't feel the need to do the same with this phone, i feel like the last jb firmware Works perfect and i don't have the need to mess with it. I rooted this phone a few months ago but it resulted in a performance decrease. So i.haven't felt the need to root again since then.
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I know, right? This is the very first phone I own that hasn't been flashed or rooted even. For the very first time, I haven't felt the need. Actually, that's saying something for Sony. Kudos to them!
Now back to eagerly awaiting my 4.3 update...

What ROM do you use and why?

What ROM do you have installed for daily use and why? I use CM11 because I like the ability to update to the nightly version using CMupdater and it is stable and customizable enough for me.
Holoblur because its stable and fast.
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Validus because is a bad ass and daily use stable
plunplan said:
Holoblur because its stable and fast.
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How is the battery life? I would like to have longer battery life but for now I just underclock the processor when I don't need it.
TecknoFreak said:
Validus because is a bad ass and daily use stable
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What is badass about it? What is your opinion of Tesla (based on validus I think)?
Carbon. IMO, best ROM so far.
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Carbon. IMO, best ROM so far.
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What are your favorite features? How is the battery life?
In my opinion..
Okey, so I forgot about flashing other roms when i installed vanir, battery life is awesome, deep sleep all the way when you dont use it, maybe because of the kernel, latest nyghtly was a little bit anoying because it kept rebootin and freezing but meeh...understandable if your are using kitkat on a phone thats not ment to have kitkat..
Other good rom is Paranoid android,...pure stock android, fast and stable, but battery life sucks..
In my opinion for Battery vanir works well for me, and stability is paranoid, i havent tried latest cm snapshot, i am about to.
have tried most of the roms... for some reason vanir and tesla doesn't give me good battery backup (doesn't last for a day).. have been using pacman nightlies now and it has given me good battery life(lasts more than a day with wifi, some reading and calls).. do you guys use any app or change settings in vanir to get good battery life?
Surprised not to see many CM11 people here. I use that since I assumed it'd be the most stable, but I haven't really tried anything else.
I use CM11 M12. I figure since all the roms are CM based anyways and I don't really care for the themes and customizations they add, might as well go to the stable source and add my own mods as I please.
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Surprised not to see many CM11 people here. I use that since I assumed it'd be the most stable, but I haven't really tried anything else.
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I am on the latest nightly and my phone shut off today and wouldn't stay on until I plugged it in to charge despite it reporting %50 battery left. I think my phone may be having an issue with reporting proper battery level but I don't know if it is CM11 related. Cyanogen are the only ROMs I have ever used on my phones, but now I am thinking about flashing Pacman to see if it has the same problem with my battery.
I use stock mexican 4.1.2 far the best and most stable rom. I love all the features from 4.4.x roms but all they make the phone sluggish.
And if Motorola betrays us again (not releasing 4.4 or 5) that would be the last motorola roms that I would ever use again.
neondunker said:
I use stock mexican 4.1.2 far the best and most stable rom. I love all the features from 4.4.x roms but all they make the phone sluggish.
And if Motorola betrays us again (not releasing 4.4 or 5) that would be the last motorola roms that I would ever use again.
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Why people keep saying Moto? It will be most like ATT betrayal instead as moto already gave them the finished update. Blame ATT not Moto.
neondunker said:
I use stock mexican 4.1.2 far the best and most stable rom. I love all the features from 4.4.x roms but all they make the phone sluggish.
And if Motorola betrays us again (not releasing 4.4 or 5) that would be the last motorola roms that I would ever use again.
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And if Moto betrays us again? Lmfao. Really now? Living under a rock much the past month and a half? Or do you just not pay attention to what a few of us have reported and confirmed? Stay up to date with your info or keep your misleading comments to yourself.
Releasing 5.0/5.0.1 will not happen for us in the form of official update from Moto. We all already know that.
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I use any ROM that has pie controls in it. Lately it's Validus. For this phone, pie controls is my favorite and required feature. The navigation bar takes up too much screen real estate, and making the buttons smaller makes then harder to press! Pie all day er day.
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What ROM do you have installed for daily use and why? I use CM11 because I like the ability to update to the nightly version using CMupdater and it is stable and customizable enough for me.
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I've tried CM11. Pac Rom. And Mokee. I'm digging Mokee lately.

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