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Hi everybody,
I like the FM and TV apps. They replace two rather clunky devices. I also like ROMs like PAC, AOKP and CM. None of which have the former.
Is there a (preferably free) way to get TV and FM on AOSP roms? Or is there something like closed source drivers preventing this?
I tried Spirit FM, it didn't work.
Thanks,
sauprankul
I don't think the FM radio app works on aosp. I do know that tunein radio works. Its an FM radio but runs through the network connection. Its not exactly what you were looking for but it may help.
p3tr0s said:
I don't think the FM radio app works on aosp. I do know that tunein radio works. Its an FM radio but runs through the network connection. Its not exactly what you were looking for but it may help.
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I know that the app doesn't work, but I was hoping for a mod or app that would replace it.
Tunein isn't as clear and Sprint doesn't have very good coverage around here (yet, they say).
Oh well.
Might work for FM radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13379669
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for the tv i think peel should work
Outside of Asia and a prototype or 2, there are no "over the air" TV chips in Android devices, AFAICT.
A few people have reported my FM app works OK on HTC One. And at least one said it didn't work. AFAIK, my app Spirit is the only non stock app that will work (for "real" over the air FM), and I've heard no indication that will change anytime soon.
The Sprint HTC One has a stock FM app, right ?
I will likely buy and officially support the HTC One within a few months.
mikereidis said:
Outside of Asia and a prototype or 2, there are no "over the air" TV chips in Android devices, AFAICT.
A few people have reported my FM app works OK on HTC One. And at least one said it didn't work. AFAIK, my app Spirit is the only non stock app that will work (for "real" over the air FM), and I've heard no indication that will change anytime soon.
The Sprint HTC One has a stock FM app, right ?
I will likely buy and officially support the HTC One within a few months.
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I don't think the OP was referring to an "over-the-air" TV app, but rather the TV app on stock HTC ONEs that basically turn your phone into a remote.
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I don't think the OP was referring to an "over-the-air" TV app, but rather the TV app on stock HTC ONEs that basically turn your phone into a remote.
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OP can clarify but when he says "...way to get TV..." it certainly sounds like he's asking for an OTA TV type app.
For TV etc. remote control, there ARE several apps on Play, and I think at least one of them works with the HTC One specific IR blaster hardware.
Oops, my bad.
I meant the app named TV, which allows me to use the IR blaster. I looked it up on the play store, only got apps that used network, links?
And I thought I had posted this a while back, but I get no audio from Spirit FM. (I'll try it again?) EDIT: Yeah, no audio... Am I supposed to let it scan networks or wait for it to tune or something?
mikereidis said:
OP can clarify but when he says "...way to get TV..." it certainly sounds like he's asking for an OTA TV type app.
For TV etc. remote control, there ARE several apps on Play, and I think at least one of them works with the HTC One specific IR blaster hardware.
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I don't think the hardware is the problem, but rather the lack of IR support in AOSP.
sauprankul said:
Oops, my bad.
I meant the app named TV, which allows me to use the IR blaster. I looked it up on the play store, only got apps that used network, links?
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Here's one of the IR apps on Play (more if you follow "Users who viewed this also viewed") : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microcontrollerbg.irdroid
App description says "Uses and needs external Irdroid module" and indicates it's a port of LIRC.
IR ports and their drivers are relatively simple, compared to audio, graphics, FM, etc.
So I'll bet that somebody will find/build an HTC One AOSP IR solution in the next 3-6 months. I've briefly considered it myself, but there are enough apps out there already IMO for when drivers become available.
BTW, I got the app link from this good thread about things missing from the coming Nexus Experience version: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tc-camera-features-and-no-beats-audio-switch/
My impression right now is that HTC One sales are doing better than many of us expected. The Nexus Experience thing has convinced me that I'll be getting one soon. And Samsung GS4 sales seem lower than expected. I think HTC One is "stealing" some GS4 sales.
My point is that I think HTC One XDA/custom ROM and apps development will do well, and solutions for IR and some other Sense related features will be found.
sauprankul said:
And I thought I had posted this a while back, but I get no audio from Spirit FM. (I'll try it again?) EDIT: Yeah, no audio... Am I supposed to let it scan networks or wait for it to tune or something?
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AOSP based ROM ?
I've had a few HTC One success reports, but I think on stock ROM where the "HTC" Audio-> Method setting talks to the HTC proprietary audio stuff.
Send me a debug log with Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs . After 20 seconds or so press Send.
There may be some simple ALSA controls to set to enable FM audio. But often I have to get a phone in my hands and spend some time on it before learning the FM audio enable secrets.
If this phone were using the Qualcomm WCN3660 FM/combo chips, like the Qualcomm reference designs used in One X LTE, One S and similar devices, then the "HTC OneS/X LTE ALSA" Audio-> Method would work, as well as "Digital OneXL/S".
AFAIR, this phone DOES use the reference WDC9310 audio chip, but the Qualcomm FM chip has special audio connections that I'm pretty sure the Broadcom BCM4335 FM/combo chip does not.
My guess is that HTC added some special FM audio controls to the WDC9310 driver. EDIT: OK someone sent me a debug log from a rooted One, I'll look to find new FM controls.
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Here's one of the IR apps on Play (more if you follow "Users who viewed this also viewed") : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microcontrollerbg.irdroid
App description says "Uses and needs external Irdroid module" and indicates it's a port of LIRC.
IR ports and their drivers are relatively simple, compared to audio, graphics, FM, etc.
So I'll bet that somebody will find/build an HTC One AOSP IR solution in the next 3-6 months. I've briefly considered it myself, but there are enough apps out there already IMO for when drivers become available.
BTW, I got the app link from this good thread about things missing from the coming Nexus Experience version: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tc-camera-features-and-no-beats-audio-switch/
My impression right now is that HTC One sales are doing better than many of us expected. The Nexus Experience thing has convinced me that I'll be getting one soon. And Samsung GS4 sales seem lower than expected. I think HTC One is "stealing" some GS4 sales.
My point is that I think HTC One XDA/custom ROM and apps development will do well, and solutions for IR and some other Sense related features will be found.
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I'm sure the ONE isn't doing much to hinder sales of the S4. If you take into consideration that the S3 and S4 release dates are roughly a year apart not many people are available to upgrade let alone fork out the full price for the phone. People tend to pick brands and stick with them.
Also, according to Wikipedia, "Upon its release (S4), it became the fastest selling smartphone in Samsung's history, with 10 million devices sold as of May 22, 2013, according to Samsung." AND "the One sold around 5 million units through its first two months of worldwide availability.[" So I don't know where this stigma comes that HTC is dominating Samsung right now. I'm assuming it's just pure fanboy-ism.
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So I don't know where this stigma comes that HTC is dominating Samsung right now. I'm assuming it's just pure fanboy-ism.
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There isn't any, AFAIK. Samsung is still top dog. Just with a LITTLE less domination than was expected, and HTC doing a bit better than many expected for them. HTC has lost a LOT of market share in 2 years, now I think they've climbed back (just a bit !) from the precipice.
My very non-scientific survey of the front page of XDA forums seems to show about twice as much activity for all S4 variants, versus all One variants. One activity should have an edge because it came out first though...
Against the S4's expected dominance, I think a 2:1 activity ratio means the One is clearly among the most popular new devices, despite enthusiast complaints about non-removable battery and no SDCard.
For FM:
- AFAICT, the people who reported success with Spirit on HTC One were running stock ROMs.
On stock derived ROMs, deny SU to Spirit or better yet, set Debug-> FM API to "OEM Proprietary" and restart Spirit. If the stock FM app can work, then Spirit should be able to work this way.
Debug-> Audio Focus should be enabled, but this is done automatically on recent Spirit releases.
- I've taken a quick look at the ALSA audio driver differences. Digital FM audio is I think possible, using some HTC One specific ALSA controls intended for Bluetooth. I will need a phone and time to figure this out. I'm not sure there is even an analog FM route available; it may be digital only.
If there's a service manual and/or schematic, I'd be interested to see.
- Even without audio, I'm not sure Spirit can control the FM/combo chip on AOSP ROMs or using low level stuff. The code that works an many old and new Broadcom chips directly via "UART" does not work on this BCM4335.
Maybe it could work if Bluetooth were turned on and/or Spirit has Debug-> HCI Access set to "BT Socket".
EDIT: Actually someone just emailed me running CM10.1 and the FM chip control works through UART.
Overall, I just have to get this phone to make it work well. Usually I get new phones on Ebay from Hong Kong or US vendors. But in this case I think I'd be better to buy one locally for $650 plus taxes. I'd buy an HTC dev phone, but they only sell to US and I think the same will be true, at least initially, for the coming Google Nexus Experience phone. And... I've been reading the One has S-Off and even carrier SIM unlock now (?)...
I got a One on the weekend and have added "early" support for Spirit FM on HTC One.
HTC One first AOSP/Google support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7#post42922397
Now where is the guy or gal who will do the IR... and Camera...
Hi,
i just flash updated my nexus 4 to support multiuser restricted profiles on my phone.
just found out that windows has a patent for multiuser profiles on phone and we won't be receiving it officially.
so is there any custom ROM development going on to support this feature on the NEXUS 4, if not i want to request it!
(can we do that?? (N00b!):silly
scoupdogg said:
Hi,
i just flash updated my nexus 4 to support multiuser restricted profiles on my phone.
just found out that windows has a patent for multiuser profiles on phone and we won't be receiving it officially.
so is there any custom ROM development going on to support this feature on the NEXUS 4, if not i want to request it!
(can we do that?? (N00b!):silly
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-phones-offers-hope-for-future-functionality/
oh , and i think Nokia actually owns that patent not Microsoft (Windows is an operating system).
rayiskon said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-phones-offers-hope-for-future-functionality/
oh , and i think Nokia actually owns that patent not Microsoft (Windows is an operating system).
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I guess that makes sense.
I don't really see the point of such a feature on a phone anyway. Unless you share your phone with someone, which I highly doubt, considering you own a highend smartphone.
vanmarek said:
I guess that makes sense.
I don't really see the point of such a feature on a phone anyway. Unless you share your phone with someone, which I highly doubt, considering you own a highend smartphone.
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yep nokia, my bad, and this feature might be useful with my friends! (most of them dont have a smartphone so they attack me )
Another stupid patent that should have never been issued, or should no longer apply to modern smart phones. Today's smart phones are not phones, but micro-computers with phone capability. How many computers are not capable of multiple user accounts?
Solutions Etcetera said:
Another stupid patent that should have never been issued, or should no longer apply to modern smart phones. Today's smart phones are not phones, but micro-computers with phone capability. How many computers are not capable of multiple user accounts?
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lol apple ipad!! XD
Hi,
Well, if it makes more sense to activate that setting on a tablet than on a phone, I must say that, almost every time we are in the car for a (even mildly) long trip, the kids ask to play on my phone...
What bothers me is 2 things :
- 1°) they install a lot of things that I do not want as personal use ;
- 2°) they both want to play the same game but can only have 1 for both, so, supposing it's a game to build a village, they play on the others village...
So, even though I understand the reason, I think that multi-user DOES make sense, even on a phone !
Regards.
NexusPenguin
I think there is an app that provide that feature.
You can also download an app to enable multiuser, but you have to use low dpi like 190dpi which make the phone unusable.
The easiest way is to install Paranoid Android which have the feature included.
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NexusPenguin said:
even though I understand the reason, I think that multi-user DOES make sense, even on a phone !
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Not if you get your kids a nexus 7. (c;
I have read that google wilp be adding screenmirroring for chromecast but my chromwcast has not gotten any updates since i unboxed it. And i know they havenot enabled mirroring yet but i think there was a recent update wasmt there?
My chromecast is not rooted or anything
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cannondaleV2000 said:
I have read that google wilp be adding screenmirroring for chromecast but my chromwcast has not gotten any updates since i unboxed it. And i know they havenot enabled mirroring yet but i think there was a recent update wasmt there?
My chromecast is not rooted or anything
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Android screen mirroring has not arrived yet. And by the looks of it, the device side will have to be supplied by OEMs, most likely baked into ROMs. I could see screen mirroring easily being used by malware, so this is probably a security measure.
bhiga said:
Android screen mirroring has not arrived yet. And by the looks of it, the device side will have to be supplied by OEMs, most likely baked into ROMs. I could see screen mirroring easily being used by malware, so this is probably a security measure.
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So is it already there on the android side? With the cast screen thing in settings? And will it work with roms like cm slim omni etc?
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cannondaleV2000 said:
So is it already there on the android side? With the cast screen thing in settings? And will it work with roms like cm slim omni etc?
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It's available in the AOSP SDK for KitKat.
Which means it is possible that they have plans to implement it in the future if the Manufacturers want to.
But it appears to be nothing much more than a way of doing Miracast with a Chromecast.
And I'm willing to bet that for the security reasons bhiga mentioned it will only work as a Radio to Radio connection in the same way Miracast does.
That will solve the issues of malware since it would really only work to send to a CCast very close and near to the unit.
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It's available in the AOSP SDK for KitKat.
Which means it is possible that they have plans to implement it in the future if the Manufacturers want to.
But it appears to be nothing much more than a way of doing Miracast with a Chromecast.
And I'm willing to bet that for the security reasons bhiga mentioned it will only work as a Radio to Radio connection in the same way Miracast does.
That will solve the issues of malware since it would really only work to send to a CCast very close and near to the unit.
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I hope it's not just radio-to-radio as it would be restrictive for some apps, but at least limiting the functionality to OEM manufacturers means no third-party apps could silently launch screen-mirroring. Assuming you trust your OEM manufacturer, at least.
bhiga said:
I hope it's not just radio-to-radio as it would be restrictive for some apps, but at least limiting the functionality to OEM manufacturers means no third-party apps could silently launch screen-mirroring. Assuming you trust your OEM manufacturer, at least.
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I would think that if a Manufacturer could add something to the ROM to make it work there is no reason why an app couldn't do the same thing especially one that intended to do something you shouldn't.
I'm not all up on Miracast (since I don't have a device that supports it , I do have a dongle though) but I'm betting you can connect to Miracast without losing Internet and if that is true then thats probably how CCast mirroring will work because the only way to be sure it is secure is to limit what it can broadcast to. And Radio Range would seem to be the best method for that. Means the Spy would have to be in radio range to intercept the stream.
But I'm with you I hope not!
Would much prefer it worked on PIN PAIR method (Like Bluetooth) where you add the CCast as a Display device, You enter a Pin code to pair them and Mirroring only works with devices your paired to.
Thats best protected in the OS and would work because Apps couldn't then pair with anything other than your own screen....
But that doesn't mean the Divorce rate won't go up! LOL
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I would think that if a Manufacturer could add something to the ROM to make it work there is no reason why an app couldn't do the same thing especially one that intended to do something you shouldn't.
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Koush said the API isn't available to non OEMs. So it would take some kind of exploit, which would then be very device and configuration specific, so fairly safe. Likely there's some signing process as well.
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Koush said the API isn't available to non OEMs. So it would take some kind of exploit, which would then be very device and configuration specific, so fairly safe. Likely there's some signing process as well.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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Yes but I'm betting that it may need the OEMs to add drivers for the support which is why it's done there but not as part of android.
Which is why I fear it working like Miracast does. The API is there but the OEMs need to make drivers that will allow simultaneous Network and Mirroring via Radio.
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
edwaine said:
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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Did you get one and is it compatible? The WearCheck site says it's compatible at least.
Not yet.
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edwaine said:
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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I use Samsung Gear Live and it works pretty fine with Nokia X2, but watches itself is not so usefull and handy product, I'm totally unhappy with it!
strovs said:
I use Samsung Gear Live and it works pretty fine with Nokia X2, but watches itself is not so usefull and handy product, I'm totally unhappy with it!
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Question, do we need the android wear app to be installed to nokia x2. If so, does the app require google play services?
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You need to know that everything that you will do with your android wear watches is ask google voice search (run apps, reply messages and everything else). So, of course you need installed google play services, play store and google now app (and actually many more google apps because other's developers apps not compatibility with android wear.
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You need to know that everything that you will do with your android wear watches is ask google voice search (run apps, reply messages and everything else). So, of course you need installed google play services, play store and google now app (and actually many more google apps because other's developers apps not compatibility with android wear.
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Well yes. I still didn't brought one so I don't know what are the required apps to be installed. Sad, but though I love this phone im considering buying a zenfone 6 so I can use the smartwatch properly.
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The Moto 360 has suddenly stopped as incompatible on http://g.co/WearCheck when checking from the X2. It say's 4.3 is required and your phone is Android but not a 4.3 :S
That's weird. It showed as compatible a few weeks ago.
No more native fm radio in Xperia xz1 Compact.
"The Qualcomm 835 SoC Plattform is supporting FM Radio" Is a great news but the worst news is that there is no radio FM native app, only in streaming.
Sony should give it a chance to use FM radio.
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I tried installing another Xperia FM app, it refuses to install. Perhaps will be possible by modifying the app.
+1
Maybe Sony may add this on next updates.
hyklamin77 said:
I tried installing another Xperia FM app, it refuses to install. Perhaps will be possible by modifying the app.
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Has anyone tried other options (such as Spirit1 FM radio...yes I know it's not free) from the market?
Also adhere to this conclusion! I have ideas in FM radio to implant it into the system and leave the Radio.apk, but unfortunately first you need to Root to turn themselves to the system files. How will Root, will have to try to do it on my XZ1, I think XZ1 XZ1 Compact and do not differ in this respect. I apologize for the English language.
I have been a fan of Sony compacts since the Z1c. In all the years I've owned one I've never used the radio. Perhaps Sony have run the numbers on how much the app gets used?
Personally I wouldn't spend £500 on a device carrying one of the best soundcards on the market to listen to hissy, lossy fm noise.
Before the end of life for my XZ1c, UK fm analogue radio will be gone, is that a big enough hint for you?
Except when you're sitting at the Bahrain GP, and realise that you can't listen to the race commentary because this stupid phone doesn't do FM... [emoji53]
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