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Porting Android Auto to existing Windows CE car headunits

Hey folks. Apologies if this is in the wrong area. Now that Android Auto is announced (http://www.android.com/auto/), I know there are lots of folks with Windows CE-based car headunits. I'm wondering if we could start a conversation about getting Android Auto set up on those head units. I have no idea what would be involved, but I want to see if it's a possibility for discussion.

I would also be interested in this if it is possible to port it to other windows or Microsoft based systems.

Yeah I'm bumping this for sure - I've got Microsoft Sync in mine, but it's the non-touch version, so I'm not sure if Android Auto could be configured for that hardware...

You can pretty much forget about this idea right now guys. Even the most advanced and most recent CE head units use hardware that is so outdated that even 1st gen android phones look cutting edge in comparsion (typically 400-800mhz single core processors and 128-256mb of ram). Even if it was somehow done it would be a serious pain in the behind to use.

Simply put no it will not happen
99.9 percent of windows ce devices are armv6
Only first gen android runs on that and android 5.0 requires atleast armv7
Ot would require a complete rewrite of android from the ground up and thats 2-3 yrs work if you can find a team of about 30 devs all willing to give up their day jobs to do it for free
90 percent of all android head units available already will not see auto at all just like all the android watches that will mever receive wear
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silent_bob52637 said:
Simply put no it will not happen
99.9 percent of windows ce devices are armv6
Only first gen android runs on that and android 5.0 requires atleast armv7
Ot would require a complete rewrite of android from the ground up and thats 2-3 yrs work if you can find a team of about 30 devs all willing to give up their day jobs to do it for free
90 percent of all android head units available already will not see auto at all just like all the android watches that will mever receive wear
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That's assuming that Android Auto is running full-blown Android. My understanding is that the phone is doing all of the heavy lifting and the head unit is effectively a "dumb display" similar to MirrorLink. If that's the case, then the head unit doesn't need to do much and they are probably using some pretty low-spec hardware already. Now, if you're trying to get Android 5.0 on these systems so you can run Android Auto without a separate phone, then I agree - most headunits will not be able to handle that with their low specs
Anybody have any info on what the head unit is actually running on an Android Auto system? Does Google provide anything as an example, or is it strictly APIs and left unto the car/HU manufacturers to figure it out?

tbkdan said:
That's assuming that Android Auto is running full-blown Android. My understanding is that the phone is doing all of the heavy lifting and the head unit is effectively a "dumb display" similar to MirrorLink. If that's the case, then the head unit doesn't need to do much and they are probably using some pretty low-spec hardware already. Now, if you're trying to get Android 5.0 on these systems so you can run Android Auto without a separate phone, then I agree - most headunits will not be able to handle that with their low specs
Anybody have any info on what the head unit is actually running on an Android Auto system? Does Google provide anything as an example, or is it strictly APIs and left unto the car/HU manufacturers to figure it out?
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Android 5.0
Android wear
And android auto are all the same os
Need the same type of specs just look at the moto 360 and lg watch
Way to powerful to have on a windows ce device
The watches are also nothing more then a notification mirror on a digital watch with specs of over 1ghz cpu and 512mb ram the most powerdul windows ce device is the htc hd2
Which runs a 1ghz cpu and 512 mb of ram in the eu model
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silent_bob52637 said:
Android 5.0
Android wear
And android auto are all the same os
Need the same type of specs just look at the moto 360 and lg watch
Way to powerful to have on a windows ce device
The watches are also nothing more then a notification mirror on a digital watch with specs of over 1ghz cpu and 512mb ram the most powerdul windows ce device is the htc hd2
Which runs a 1ghz cpu and 512 mb of ram in the eu model
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www . androidcentral . com/all-you-need-know-about-android-auto
This one's important to remember. Android Auto is on your phone, not embedded into the car. This is the same approach Apple took with CarPlay and is probably the best way to go about it. The auto manufacturers build support for the platform into their own systems – many built on top of the BlackBerry owned QNX OS – and then Android Auto becomes visible to you when you connect your phone.
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The head unit is not running Android (although I suppose it could). The head unit is running whatever OS the manufacturer wants and interacts with the phone, acting as somewhat of a dumb terminal to display information from the phone. The phone is running the meat and potatoes of the Android Auto solution.

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Does anyone know of a car infotainment system that has been rooted? I am thinking of installing one in my 2005 Subaru Outback and am hoping to have something that I can install my preferred apps on. I know I can use my Nexus 7 to do it but I'd prefer more of a 'drop in' unit.

bbc0 said:
Does anyone know of a car infotainment system that has been rooted? I am thinking of installing one in my 2005 Subaru Outback and am hoping to have something that I can install my preferred apps on. I know I can use my Nexus 7 to do it but I'd prefer more of a 'drop in' unit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...4-4-2-kitkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662

That's not android auto for Windows CE, but this app Easyconnected allows you to mirror everything from your Android phone through usb cable. Just activate usb debugging on developer options.
I know it's in Chinese, but nothing that Google translator couldn't help.
http://www.carbit.cn/

rvbeppler said:
http://www.carbit.cn/
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Good link. Now if someone could get it running on their own HU

rewen said:
Good link. Now if someone could get it running on their own HU
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I've got to run it on my Hyundai OEM navigation, made by Motrex. It works perfectly, but I had to use an old version to change the language to English, hacking the zip file with languages, I've exchanged the file name with English phrases to the Chinese file name.
In the newer versions, this zip file has a password and I didn't find another way to exchange the language from Chinese.

Can you elaborate on how you got it working? I've got a 2013 Santa Fe Sport (Limited; nav) and would kill for this. I've been searching junkyards for 2017 head units lol

I've used total commander disguised as an update (renamed it as update.exe inside the folder update) on a flash drive, and the my head unit recognize it as an update.
When I go to settings - > update, total commander opens and after it I can run whenever program I want.
P.S. only works in Motrex headunits which are used by Hyundai in Russia and Latin America. European, Korean and American cars use another head units.
Source: http://www.santa3.ru/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=1736
http://sorento.kia-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=32135
(Used Google chrome to translate it)
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rvbeppler said:
P.S. only works in Motrex headunits which are used by Hyundai in Russia and Latin America. European, Korean and American cars use another head units.
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What a shame.. I wonder if I can find anything for the North American head unit..

Hi guys. I install the application from carbit.cn , it is a good software, I was able to mirroring my Android phones (Samsung S4 and S6 edge also S4 mini ) to WinCe 6.0 , but I want to have this app in English , not in Chinese , I tried to rename the file from zip archive languages, res_Lang_CHN.xml to res_Lang_EN.xml , because in app the isn't a option to change language, but the program remain in chinese language, I saw just a few words are translated , the zip file has a password, I can't extract the xml file to be able to change it , have you any idea how I can do this ? Also there is an android app called CarMan.apk , witch is also in chinese , how I can skip not to install ?
Regards,
Emil

I am directly send mail to carbit. They don't share pass or language package​ but customer service send another program to me now I am using Turkish.
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hzr34 said:
I am directly send mail to carbit. They don't share pass or language package​ but customer service send another program to me now I am using Turkish.
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What's that another program? Can you share it with us?
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Nokia 530 8.1 Can google play be installed ?

I bought my nephew a Nokia 530 for Christmas. Unfortunately the app store doesn't have his 3 favorite apps. Is there away to install google play or amazon app store to this phone? Thanks for any help
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Quick answer is no. Google Play Store and Amazon App Store are for Android devices only.

Every Windows Phone 8.x device is only Windows Phone, and you can't load any other OS or market. If you want Android apps then buy Android device.

Equivalent question: "I bought my nephew an iPad for Christmas, and the app store doesn't have his three favorite apps. Is there any way I can install Google Play (or any other Android app) on an iPad?"
What you asked for is exactly the same as doing that. Android is as different from Windows Phone as it is from iOS, or as iOS and Windows Phone are from each other. They are different operating systems, with different security models, application models, and application ecosystems.

Closed this thread as the question has been answered.

Samsung gear fit huawei p7

Officialy Samsung gear fit it's doesn't compatible with other phones so answer unofficially how can I have Samsung gear fit on function with my huawei p7
Thanks

rjcreations said:
Officialy Samsung gear fit it's doesn't compatible with other phones so answer unofficially how can I have Samsung gear fit on function with my huawei p7
Thanks
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No, not at all. Proprietary Samsung software is need that can only be found baked into Samsung ROMs.

g4b3rm4n said:
No, not at all. Proprietary Samsung software is need that can only be found baked into Samsung ROMs.
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And its possible installing the apks on my phone root?

rjcreations said:
And its possible installing the apks on my phone root?
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You can pair it and use a few features, but the whole thing's sole purpose - the Fit part - requires a Samsung account, which you cannot have on your device. Hence the thing would be pretty much useless in that regard. You's be better off with an Android Wear watch (which works like a charm).

I'm using it as well.
If you want I can share the working apk.
You can use everything except sport sync and weather.
Media controller, notifications are working well. Except for text messages, if you use the default Huawei SMS solution. Hangouts are working.
Even some third party apps are working. For example calculator.

Thanks for all I will try

Android Wear 2.0 on Gear 2 Neo

Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.

I want android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo too!
do you have the links for 1.5? the screen show you when u have a new whatsapp?
Thx!

Just remove https part
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Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.
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Just remove the https part and paste the link here please

halil_aykent said:
Just remove the https part and paste the link here please
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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go

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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go
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Thx!!

Any word on this one?? I too would REALLY appreciate the update to this so I can continue to use my watch.

Anyone willing to make a rom with andriod wear 2 ?
Had my neo working great on my nexus6P until the nexus crashed with the boot loop.
Was able to restore phone after a factory reset, but since then lost all watch faces I had. They used to be there under the new Wear OS (used to be andriod wear)
but all gone. The Rom i have is using andriod wear 1.4

It seems that 1.5 wear, and older, are not supported by wear OS app anymore. As Tizen does not work with non Samsung, my gear 2 neo have no connection to my mobile (Zuk Z2 Pro).
Does anyone know any turn around to make it connect to non samsung mobile?

@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.

Where can I find a android wear apk that works?

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@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.
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Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.

barrnunn said:
Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.
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If your watch has Tizen on it, you can't use Android Wear. You have to use the Samsung apps. If your watch has Wear, you have to go on apkmirror and get an old version of the app. I don't recall exactly how far back you need to go. Also, let the app find the phone. Don't connect it to Bluetooth first.

Any pointers on where to find an older gear apk?

Hi, everyone it work for gear 2 (ir and camera)
Regards

What should I do with my Nexus 6?

Let me start by saying this: I LOVE MY NEXUS 6. Really love it. There's nothing like it nowadays. I've been trying to find a 6 inches / 16:9 / no-notch / 3.5mm jack modern phone, but i'm out of luck. Manofacturers just don't build them anymore.
So I've been stuck with my Nexus 6 for more than I prolly should have...
The phone is becoming increasingly incompatible with more and more applications, not even the latest Netflix version is compatible with this model. So... i've been using al old Netflix version for quite some time.
To make things worse, I recently flashed a custom rom, PixelExperience. What I didn't know when I installed it, was that it doens't include the DMR-enabler (or whatever its name is) that Netflix/Amazon need in order to stream HD video. So, basically, I can't even stream netflix now. I'm using an ancient netflix version just to make it run...
My other big issue is NFC. The phone has NFC yes... But something is different about it. There's a NFC payment app in my country, and Nexus 6 is incompatible with it. I don't know why. The app works in other, newer phones, such as Motorola G6, but it doesn't work in my Nexus 6. I paid no attention to the "this app is not compatible with your device" message, because sometimes the app store says that and the app works anyway... so, I downloaded it and installed it manually, but it didn't work. So, Im lost here. Does this phone have an "old" NFC protocol or something?
I have the latest "working" android version, 8.1. I cannot install any of the PIE roms, because none of them have figured out how to make VoLTE work.
So what should i do? should i finally give up on my Nexus and buy a modern phone, even though i don't like them? Are you guys still using Nexus 6 nowadays?

kain2k6 said:
Let me start by saying this: I LOVE MY NEXUS 6. Really love it. There's nothing like it nowadays. I've been trying to find a 6 inches / 16:9 / no-notch / 3.5mm jack modern phone, but i'm out of luck. Manofacturers just don't build them anymore.
So I've been stuck with my Nexus 6 for more than I prolly should have...
The phone is becoming increasingly incompatible with more and more applications, not even the latest Netflix version is compatible with this model. So... i've been using al old Netflix version for quite some time.
To make things worse, I recently flashed a custom rom, PixelExperience. What I didn't know when I installed it, was that it doens't include the DMR-enabler (or whatever its name is) that Netflix/Amazon need in order to stream HD video. So, basically, I can't even stream netflix now. I'm using an ancient netflix version just to make it run...
My other big issue is NFC. The phone has NFC yes... But something is different about it. There's a NFC payment app in my country, and Nexus 6 is incompatible with it. I don't know why. The app works in other, newer phones, such as Motorola G6, but it doesn't work in my Nexus 6. I paid no attention to the "this app is not compatible with your device" message, because sometimes the app store says that and the app works anyway... so, I downloaded it and installed it manually, but it didn't work. So, Im lost here. Does this phone have an "old" NFC protocol or something?
I have the latest "working" android version, 8.1. I cannot install any of the PIE roms, because none of them have figured out how to make VoLTE work.
So what should i do? should i finally give up on my Nexus and buy a modern phone, even though i don't like them? Are you guys still using Nexus 6 nowadays?
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Obviously people here are using their Nexus 6's. My wife is using a Pie rom and Netflix without any issues. I know you mentioned your issue with Pie roms so thats understandable. You mentioned the Moto G6 and thats pretty similar imo. If you want to move on from the Nexus 6 I wont hate you. My Nexus 6 still serves me well. I agree though with your dislike of more modern phones but there are plenty out there that arent like them.
As far as NFC is concerned I have never found a reason to use it so its the first thing I turn off. I know I dont have much to help with in your decision but if you want or need a newer phone, its really your choice. I support you either way. One thing that I usually consider before all else is the custom rom community. I dont care what phone it is, if the support and community isnt there then I'm not going to be happy with the phone. Good luck to you!

I retired my N6 late December. Now I use it as a dedicated MTB navigator and ride tracker.
My new phone is a OP 6T. I don't even notice the notch anymore, but I miss the width of the N6.
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About your NFC payment app:
Often, the problem is that payment apps consider custom roms insecure, and refuse to run. Sometimes this can be fixed by installing Magisk and telling it to hide.

About your payment app, having an unlocked bootloader will give the message your talking about