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Panic Over : Galaxy Gear will get Tizen update

http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889
Hold on to your hats!!! I mean Galaxy Gears.... Or even buy up the old ones cheap as they have a larger battery and will obviously be cheaper than the Gear 2 & Neo.
Some of you suggested this which was nice and sensible as it was only a software update, but some clearly thought that GG owners would be left abandoned after just 6 months or less.... There is no icon to roll my eyes as much as I need to here.
Anyway - rejoice as the Jesus watch rises.

Sooo who's first to do the downgrade?
I haven't seen Tizen in person yet, but I'm 100% sure it will not replace Null ROM with my needs.

When one news source publishes something completely unsubstantiated that doesn't make it true. Here's the quote...
There was a worry that there would be no love for the older model, but a Samsung spokesperson confirmed to TechRadar that the Android would be stripped out and replaced with the new OS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889​Maybe it's true, maybe TechRadar is phishing for click-throughs. Kind of like re/code saying Samsung was ditching TW to please Google who sold Motorola to please Samsung. No outward sign of either unsubstantiated rumor being true (so far).

BarryH_GEG said:
When one news source publishes something completely unsubstantiated that doesn't make it true. Here's the quote...
There was a worry that there would be no love for the older model, but a Samsung spokesperson confirmed to TechRadar that the Android would be stripped out and replaced with the new OS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889​Maybe it's true, maybe TechRadar is phishing for click-throughs. Kind of like re/code saying Samsung was ditching TW to please Google who sold Motorola to please Samsung. No outward sign of either unsubstantiated rumor being true (so far).
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Droid Life is reporting the same thing: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/25/galaxy-gear-update-to-tizen/

JimSmith94 said:
Droid Life is reporting the same thing
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They're quoting TechRadar...

BarryH_GEG said:
They're quoting TechRadar...
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Assuming that it will be sidegraded/downgraded to Tizen, then the real issue is the other quote from a Samsung representative, the part that mentions that only the gear 2 and gear 2 neo will have their sdk released and even with Tizen on our original Galaxy Gears, we won't getting any decent apps.

Nianfur said:
Assuming that it will be sidegraded/downgraded to Tizen, then the real issue is the other quote from a Samsung representative, the part that mentions that only the gear 2 and gear 2 neo will have their sdk released and even with Tizen on our original Galaxy Gears, we won't getting any decent apps.
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And by extension if you have software development kit you can develop apps that run on Tizen.
The Galaxy Gear will have a some point ..... knowing how fast Samsung is maybe in months run Tizen.
A Tizen app is a Tizen app if it runs on the Gear 2 it will run on the Galaxy Gear (unless the app uses the heart rate monitor)
Other than the heart rate monitor the Galaxy Gear has the same hardware as the Gear 2, it will running Tizen and have exactly the same apps.
Now me I personally do not believe any watch running Tizen will ever have more Apps that a watch running Android but other that no heart rate monitor, maybe a ever so minor improvement on the clock there it no reason buy a Gear 2.
Me at this point I really do not care, I am 95% certain if anything I will get a Gear Fit, and the Gear Fit will not run Tizen or have many if any future apps.

AstroDigital said:
And by extension if you have software development kit you can develop apps that run on Tizen.
The Galaxy Gear will have a some point ..... knowing how fast Samsung is maybe in months run Tizen.
A Tizen app is a Tizen app if it runs on the Gear 2 it will run on the Galaxy Gear (unless the app uses the heart rate monitor)
Other than the heart rate monitor the Galaxy Gear has the same hardware as the Gear 2, it will running Tizen and have exactly the same apps.
Now me I personally do not believe any watch running Tizen will ever have more Apps that a watch running Android but other that no heart rate monitor, maybe a ever so minor improvement on the clock there it no reason buy a Gear 2.
Me at this point I really do not care, I am 95% certain if anything I will get a Gear Fit, and the Gear Fit will not run Tizen or have many if any future apps.
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Unless it has some unique api that needs the sdk. Then were screwed.

So good news with respect to Tizen and its feared incompatibility...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...apps-to-tizen-os-too-bad-theres-no-phone-yet/

ronfurro said:
So good news with respect to Tizen and its feared incompatibility...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...apps-to-tizen-os-too-bad-theres-no-phone-yet/
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Hopefully someone will come up with a free option in converting apps to Tizen. $5000 PER APP is absurd. What about ask the developers who create free apps for android? What about customers who have paid for apps but the developers don't choose to pay 5grand to convert the app to a Tizen compatible version? If developing apps using HTML5 is as easy as Fomey says it is then we may have a shot at getting decent apps for the gear2, but if not...... My choice to hold out for the gear2 instead of getting the galaxy gear will probably bite me in the arse. I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update. If not I better go grab one now...
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Qwallace70129 said:
I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update.
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i'll eat my hat if that will be possible. but it won't. tizen is supposed to be better - according to samsung - so why give an option to downgrade?

Qwallace70129 said:
Hopefully someone will come up with a free option in converting apps to Tizen. $5000 PER APP is absurd. What about ask the developers who create free apps for android? What about customers who have paid for apps but the developers don't choose to pay 5grand to convert the app to a Tizen compatible version? If developing apps using HTML5 is as easy as Fomey says it is then we may have a shot at getting decent apps for the gear2, but if not...... My choice to hold out for the gear2 instead of getting the galaxy gear will probably bite me in the arse. I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update. If not I better go grab one now...
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I never said it was easy hehe.
Seriously tho, it would be awesome if HTML5 apps have hardware access.. we shall see!

I'll be impressed if they can OTA a whole new OS onto the watch. It's a little shady though. Imagine buying an apple computer, and having them ota windows onto it 6 months later.
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Galaxy Gear 1 (Tizen OS) & iPhone

Hi all!
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate the possibility of the iPhone & Gear 1(Tizen OS) cooperation.
My observations regarding what works, so far:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality (which means you can actually talk over the Gear)
2) Caller ID
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
The interesting result is that Tizen OS offers Caller ID info on the iPhone, whereas the Android OS did not.
Please feel free to contribute to this thread with your own test, results, conclusions.

gidi said:
Hi all!
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate the possibility of the iPhone & Gear 1(Tizen OS) cooperation.
My observations regarding what works, so far:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality (which means you can actually talk over the Gear)
2) Caller ID
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
The interesting result is that Tizen OS offers Caller ID info on the iPhone, whereas the Android OS did not.
Please feel free to contribute to this thread with your own test, results, conclusions.
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interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen

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zadigre said:
interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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What he means is that syncing your Gear to your iPhone via bluetooth, when you receive an incoming call
only see is the phone number. Not the name attached to it in your contacts on the iphone. Hope this clears
it up for you.

zadigre said:
interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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I mean. That when the Gear run Android and was connected to the iPhone, Caller ID was not working, it has to do with the BT profiles the Gear is supporting with the Tizen OD vs what it supported with Android OS,
@Accounti my man maybe you should try to see if you can make the iPhine and the Tizen Gear talk to each other via BT. Some things are definitely changed.

Done some extensive testing with a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS 7.1.1) with btnotificationenabler cydia tweak installed.
Nothing new noted.
It seems that the iPhone thinks that the Gear is a handsfree device (so only handsfree BT profile is engaged).
I would appreciate any help, ideas, suggestions.
Thank you!

gidi said:
Done some extensive testing with a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS 7.1.1) with btnotificationenabler cydia tweak installed.
Nothing new noted.
It seems that the iPhone thinks that the Gear is a handsfree device (so only handsfree BT profile is engaged).
I would appreciate any help, ideas, suggestions.
Thank you!
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Just purchased gear as a fitness wearable and music player
Working with my iPhone 5s non jailbreak perfectly apart from noticifcations
Hands free works perfect, activating siri on the phone then makes the sound and therefore the interaction come through the Gear
Pretty cool, so I'm planning on jailbreaking to see if there's a siri tweak/HotWord to enable me to activate without actually touching the iPhone
The BTnotifier cydia tweak you've tried, is there any form of notification coming through?
I know on my Pebble watch, is does state that you need to have Banners enabled on the iPhone for the notifications to show on the watch
I'm keen to get this to work too and there MUST be a way lol

pglandscapes said:
Just purchased gear as a fitness wearable and music player
Working with my iPhone 5s non jailbreak perfectly apart from noticifcations
Hands free works perfect, activating siri on the phone then makes the sound and therefore the interaction come through the Gear
Pretty cool, so I'm planning on jailbreaking to see if there's a siri tweak/HotWord to enable me to activate without actually touching the iPhone
The BTnotifier cydia tweak you've tried, is there any form of notification coming through?
I know on my Pebble watch, is does state that you need to have Banners enabled on the iPhone for the notifications to show on the watch
I'm keen to get this to work too and there MUST be a way lol
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Dude, i have done some extensive testing.
BTnotification enabler does not seem to offer anything.
The iPhone sees the Gear as a handsfree device.
In my case there is also caller id, but here is why:
Before connecting the Gear with the iPhone i had paired it to an HTC One and my addressbook was synched over to the watch.
Thing is, the Gear cannot grab the notofications even though the btnotificationenabler tweak exposes them over BT.
Only solution is to downgrade the Gear to Android and use the cloudnotifier tweak @Accounti has created but in that case:
1) There is no direct BT connection.
2) The Caller ID is not working.
3) Battery life and overall responsiveness of the watch are not quite as good as when on Tizen.
Long story short: Wait for the iWatch.

gidi said:
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.

Spitfirejay said:
How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.

gidi said:
Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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Yeah, we are a Mac based company. - no androids today meant I went back to Null rom.

Spitfirejay said:
How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Honestly....I went into my local phone shop, found a samsung test device, clicked the gear manager to connect to the gear and walked out again
As soon as it's activated, you're away!!

Gear App
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.

xetjoe said:
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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Not fussed about an iWatch
I wanted a fitness wearable that could hold it's own music. The fact that it connects to my iPhone with the calls.siri, reads out sat nag directions through the watch speaker.....all a bonus
Added to which it cost me just £35!
Result-happy !!
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xetjoe said:
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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Added to which, since when did simply owning an iPhone make someone a fanbois?!

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Spitfirejay said:
How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Remove the setup wizard while flashing the rom in aroma, under samsung applications, select custom & then de-select "setup wizard" on the next screen.
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gidi said:
Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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remove the 'SecSetupWizardW.apk' from system/app and it will work !

adame said:
Remove the setup wizard while flashing the rom in aroma, under samsung applications, select custom & then de-select "setup wizard" on the next screen.
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Right, I understand how to do this for Null, I'm talking about finding a way to bypass on Tizen. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[Q] Change

Hello, just curious. ... I have the gear 2 neo.. I have installed the newest rom there and its cool but ive seen watches like gear one and gear 2 running android having full web browsing abilities. ..having youtube...and even the play store. .. is the neo 2 ever going to have a fully loaded android rom or I have to get an gear 2 or 1 to get android

blacksauce08 said:
Hello, just curious. ... I have the gear 2 neo.. I have installed the newest rom there and its cool but ive seen watches like gear one and gear 2 running android having full web browsing abilities. ..having youtube...and even the play store. .. is the neo 2 ever going to have a fully loaded android rom or I have to get an gear 2 or 1 to get android
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where have you seen this? becasue i highly doubt that Since they all run Tizen and no android rom has ever been released for them
Either you saw a fake video or just some app for screen mirror of phone

Before the tizen update you could do all this. But now we cant do nothing with them.
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not sure
It may have been a fake but I seen too many videos with the other watches running android fully. .hell they even said it like having a mini S5 on your wrist... I cant post an outside link up yet but I can email the link to yall...and let me ask you this do you ever think we can change the tizen os to android

app
there is a app named AppLauncher on gear store that looks like the gear would run android, but it only starts apps on the phone, and No i dont think we will ever have android on the gear

Samsung gear fit huawei p7

Officialy Samsung gear fit it's doesn't compatible with other phones so answer unofficially how can I have Samsung gear fit on function with my huawei p7
Thanks

rjcreations said:
Officialy Samsung gear fit it's doesn't compatible with other phones so answer unofficially how can I have Samsung gear fit on function with my huawei p7
Thanks
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No, not at all. Proprietary Samsung software is need that can only be found baked into Samsung ROMs.

g4b3rm4n said:
No, not at all. Proprietary Samsung software is need that can only be found baked into Samsung ROMs.
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And its possible installing the apks on my phone root?

rjcreations said:
And its possible installing the apks on my phone root?
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You can pair it and use a few features, but the whole thing's sole purpose - the Fit part - requires a Samsung account, which you cannot have on your device. Hence the thing would be pretty much useless in that regard. You's be better off with an Android Wear watch (which works like a charm).

I'm using it as well.
If you want I can share the working apk.
You can use everything except sport sync and weather.
Media controller, notifications are working well. Except for text messages, if you use the default Huawei SMS solution. Hangouts are working.
Even some third party apps are working. For example calculator.

Thanks for all I will try

Any Idea??

now as we see the new Gear S2
any idea if the Gear 2/neo getting new interface update or will stick to the current interface
also. any one know if there is any available custom firmware, other than the Tizen mode 3
I tried rooting to Android and it worked very will, but the battery life is really very bad

drmsh2020 said:
now as we see the new Gear S2
any idea if the Gear 2/neo getting new interface update or will stick to the current interface
also. any one know if there is any available custom firmware, other than the Tizen mode 3
I tried rooting to Android and it worked very will, but the battery life is really very bad
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Have you tried Google ware its runs OK I use it daily charge battery every other day
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im running an android wear port and its working pretty well. Cant **** Tracy answer calls on the watch yet, but "OK Google" works on it along with Nav on the watch etc etc. Its pretty slick. Heres the thread