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Panic Over : Galaxy Gear will get Tizen update

http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889
Hold on to your hats!!! I mean Galaxy Gears.... Or even buy up the old ones cheap as they have a larger battery and will obviously be cheaper than the Gear 2 & Neo.
Some of you suggested this which was nice and sensible as it was only a software update, but some clearly thought that GG owners would be left abandoned after just 6 months or less.... There is no icon to roll my eyes as much as I need to here.
Anyway - rejoice as the Jesus watch rises.

Sooo who's first to do the downgrade?
I haven't seen Tizen in person yet, but I'm 100% sure it will not replace Null ROM with my needs.

When one news source publishes something completely unsubstantiated that doesn't make it true. Here's the quote...
There was a worry that there would be no love for the older model, but a Samsung spokesperson confirmed to TechRadar that the Android would be stripped out and replaced with the new OS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889​Maybe it's true, maybe TechRadar is phishing for click-throughs. Kind of like re/code saying Samsung was ditching TW to please Google who sold Motorola to please Samsung. No outward sign of either unsubstantiated rumor being true (so far).

BarryH_GEG said:
When one news source publishes something completely unsubstantiated that doesn't make it true. Here's the quote...
There was a worry that there would be no love for the older model, but a Samsung spokesperson confirmed to TechRadar that the Android would be stripped out and replaced with the new OS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889​Maybe it's true, maybe TechRadar is phishing for click-throughs. Kind of like re/code saying Samsung was ditching TW to please Google who sold Motorola to please Samsung. No outward sign of either unsubstantiated rumor being true (so far).
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Droid Life is reporting the same thing: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/25/galaxy-gear-update-to-tizen/

JimSmith94 said:
Droid Life is reporting the same thing
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They're quoting TechRadar...

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They're quoting TechRadar...
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Assuming that it will be sidegraded/downgraded to Tizen, then the real issue is the other quote from a Samsung representative, the part that mentions that only the gear 2 and gear 2 neo will have their sdk released and even with Tizen on our original Galaxy Gears, we won't getting any decent apps.

Nianfur said:
Assuming that it will be sidegraded/downgraded to Tizen, then the real issue is the other quote from a Samsung representative, the part that mentions that only the gear 2 and gear 2 neo will have their sdk released and even with Tizen on our original Galaxy Gears, we won't getting any decent apps.
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And by extension if you have software development kit you can develop apps that run on Tizen.
The Galaxy Gear will have a some point ..... knowing how fast Samsung is maybe in months run Tizen.
A Tizen app is a Tizen app if it runs on the Gear 2 it will run on the Galaxy Gear (unless the app uses the heart rate monitor)
Other than the heart rate monitor the Galaxy Gear has the same hardware as the Gear 2, it will running Tizen and have exactly the same apps.
Now me I personally do not believe any watch running Tizen will ever have more Apps that a watch running Android but other that no heart rate monitor, maybe a ever so minor improvement on the clock there it no reason buy a Gear 2.
Me at this point I really do not care, I am 95% certain if anything I will get a Gear Fit, and the Gear Fit will not run Tizen or have many if any future apps.

AstroDigital said:
And by extension if you have software development kit you can develop apps that run on Tizen.
The Galaxy Gear will have a some point ..... knowing how fast Samsung is maybe in months run Tizen.
A Tizen app is a Tizen app if it runs on the Gear 2 it will run on the Galaxy Gear (unless the app uses the heart rate monitor)
Other than the heart rate monitor the Galaxy Gear has the same hardware as the Gear 2, it will running Tizen and have exactly the same apps.
Now me I personally do not believe any watch running Tizen will ever have more Apps that a watch running Android but other that no heart rate monitor, maybe a ever so minor improvement on the clock there it no reason buy a Gear 2.
Me at this point I really do not care, I am 95% certain if anything I will get a Gear Fit, and the Gear Fit will not run Tizen or have many if any future apps.
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Unless it has some unique api that needs the sdk. Then were screwed.

So good news with respect to Tizen and its feared incompatibility...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...apps-to-tizen-os-too-bad-theres-no-phone-yet/

ronfurro said:
So good news with respect to Tizen and its feared incompatibility...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...apps-to-tizen-os-too-bad-theres-no-phone-yet/
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Hopefully someone will come up with a free option in converting apps to Tizen. $5000 PER APP is absurd. What about ask the developers who create free apps for android? What about customers who have paid for apps but the developers don't choose to pay 5grand to convert the app to a Tizen compatible version? If developing apps using HTML5 is as easy as Fomey says it is then we may have a shot at getting decent apps for the gear2, but if not...... My choice to hold out for the gear2 instead of getting the galaxy gear will probably bite me in the arse. I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update. If not I better go grab one now...
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Qwallace70129 said:
I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update.
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i'll eat my hat if that will be possible. but it won't. tizen is supposed to be better - according to samsung - so why give an option to downgrade?

Qwallace70129 said:
Hopefully someone will come up with a free option in converting apps to Tizen. $5000 PER APP is absurd. What about ask the developers who create free apps for android? What about customers who have paid for apps but the developers don't choose to pay 5grand to convert the app to a Tizen compatible version? If developing apps using HTML5 is as easy as Fomey says it is then we may have a shot at getting decent apps for the gear2, but if not...... My choice to hold out for the gear2 instead of getting the galaxy gear will probably bite me in the arse. I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update. If not I better go grab one now...
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I never said it was easy hehe.
Seriously tho, it would be awesome if HTML5 apps have hardware access.. we shall see!

I'll be impressed if they can OTA a whole new OS onto the watch. It's a little shady though. Imagine buying an apple computer, and having them ota windows onto it 6 months later.
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Updated MapMyRide not compatible with Gear 1

Just in case anyone else has the same problem I did...
MapMyRide used to work fine on my note3 and gear1, but the last 2 updates on the phone app (3.0.4 and 3.0.3) don't work with the Galaxy Gear. On the watch, it tells me to install mapmyride on the phone. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling both on the watch and phone. Rolled back to v2.9.5 on the phone and it's ok again.
I emailed them and this is the reply I got from MapMyRide :
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The new updates are only compatible with Gear 2. I know this is frustrating, but we were told by Samsung that Gear 1 owners would be upgraded OTA to the Tizen-based Gear 2 OS. As a result, we planned our app upgrades to only support Gear 2.
We understand this upgrade has not happened. We have contacted Samsung to learn more and will update as soon as we find out more.
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So, I'm sticking with v2.9.5 for now...
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richlum said:
Just in case anyone else has the same problem I did...
MapMyRide used to work fine on my note3 and gear1, but the last 2 updates on the phone app (3.0.4 and 3.0.3) don't work with the Galaxy Gear. On the watch, it tells me to install mapmyride on the phone. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling both on the watch and phone. Rolled back to v2.9.5 on the phone and it's ok again.
I emailed them and this is the reply I got from MapMyRide :
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The new updates are only compatible with Gear 2. I know this is frustrating, but we were told by Samsung that Gear 1 owners would be upgraded OTA to the Tizen-based Gear 2 OS. As a result, we planned our app upgrades to only support Gear 2.
We understand this upgrade has not happened. We have contacted Samsung to learn more and will update as soon as we find out more.
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So, I'm sticking with v2.9.5 for now...
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well this sounds like tizen could be coming soon

So, I updated to Tizen, but now MapMyRide is not showing up in the Samsung store in Gear Manager.
Is anyone else on Tizen able to see the MapMyRide app in the Gear Manager store?
I'm not sure if it's just because of my region (Thailand), although I could download MapMyRide for the Gear on Android...

Rumor has it...

The possibility of a Samsung / Google Wear watch may be announced during Google I/O. How does this make you feel about your gear? GO!
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The possibility of a Samsung / Google Wear watch may be announced during Google I/O. How does this make you feel about your gear? GO!
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I'm hoping that if Samsung does release an Android Wear watch, that it is of similar hardware as our Gear 2s and some dev smarter than me can port the OS to ours. Otherwise, I may be upset since I just bought mine 2 weeks ago. That is of course depending on the features of the rumored watch.

If it's all of the "wear" functionality, I'm not gonna be happy. I got my gear 2 neo just over a month ago which means I can't return it...
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I'm selling my gear 2 for a gear wear (or any good android wear watch) the second it hits the market. Im not ready to live thru tizens maturity for wearables. Until now i've been disappointed with the app selection and notifications. Any android app is a few lines of code away from being an android wearable app and that means a lot to an ecosystem that has a lot of added value with already a huge community behind it

More than likely I'll sell the gear and get one of these android wear watches. I don't know yet, we'll see next week.
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I managed to return mine on day 26 !!!
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The Neo wasn't that expensive after the recent sales so even if I ditch for AW, it won't be too much of a loss. I knew Android Wear was coming, yet kept the Neo as I'm hoping the awesome potential of the hardware can be unlocked eventually. I don't get the comments like "I'll be pissed, because I just got my Gear" - AW was announced awhile ago with expectation that devices will be dropping this summer - it shouldn't be a surprise to you guys.
AW will most likely have more Dev support and more apps. The only thing is I don't need -all- the apps, just specific ones to get what usage out of a smartwatch I want.
I'm encouraged as some of the stuff I have been requesting from Devs are being fulfilled. Maybe we get lucky and AW can get ported to this hardware (doubtful). If AW can't get ported to Neo, I hope Samsung announces an AW unit that has the IR blaster like the Neo- I'm open to trading to that. To my knowledge no other AW announced has the IR blaster, and I kind of want that.

It will be interesting to see what is announced. Just got my Gear 2 last week, and I love it, so I'm not looking to buy anything new anytime soon.

rEVOLVE said:
The Neo wasn't that expensive after the recent sales so even if I ditch for AW, it won't be too much of a loss. I knew Android Wear was coming, yet kept the Neo as I'm hoping the awesome potential of the hardware can be unlocked eventually. I don't get the comments like "I'll be pissed, because I just got my Gear" - AW was announced awhile ago with expectation that devices will be dropping this summer - it shouldn't be a surprise to you guys.
AW will most likely have more Dev support and more apps. The only thing is I don't need -all- the apps, just specific ones to get what usage out of a smartwatch I want.
I'm encouraged as some of the stuff I have been requesting from Devs are being fulfilled. Maybe we get lucky and AW can get ported to this hardware (doubtful). If AW can't get ported to Neo, I hope Samsung announces an AW unit that has the IR blaster like the Neo- I'm open to trading to that. To my knowledge no other AW announced has the IR blaster, and I kind of want that.
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Turn your flame blower off. Everyone here knows about Wear, and knows what they currently have, as well as what may be to come. The question was not to agitate, but to gain perspective...
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Best move for Samsung at this point it to ditch Tizen and work on converting the Galaxy Gear watches to Android Wear. This isn't a war they can win. This is very reminiscent to the HP Touchpad problem.
HP faced STRONG criticism when the Touch Pad failed similarly. HP didn't support a HP-OS conversion to Android and Cyanogen had to come to the rescue.

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Turn your flame blower off. Everyone here knows about Wear, and knows what they currently have, as well as what may be to come. The question was not to agitate, but to gain perspective...
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Who's flaming? I was just offering my opinion which I thought you were asking for input. Since you're so sensitive about it I won't bother continuing then, what was the point at all? sheesh.

mitch27 said:
Best move for Samsung at this point it to ditch Tizen and work on converting the Galaxy Gear watches to Android Wear. This isn't a war they can win. This is very reminiscent to the HP Touchpad problem.
HP faced STRONG criticism when the Touch Pad failed similarly. HP didn't support a HP-OS conversion to Android and Cyanogen had to come to the rescue.
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There is one major difference, Tizen has a lot of MAJOR players involved that will do everything in their power to develop it and make it a major android contender. HP was a lone player with their own OS in a world where there already was a lot of other mature OSs. The wearables is the only chance Tizen has to florish because there is nobody in that market yet, if it does it will be on your wrist. I like android wear much more but if done right, Tizen can be something worth it
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Maybe Samsung should find a developer that can TIZEN a sim card, gps, and allow streaming music and video on the watch.

mitch27 said:
Best move for Samsung at this point it to ditch Tizen and work on converting the Galaxy Gear watches to Android Wear. This isn't a war they can win. This is very reminiscent to the HP Touchpad problem.
HP faced STRONG criticism when the Touch Pad failed similarly. HP didn't support a HP-OS conversion to Android and Cyanogen had to come to the rescue.
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What if... IF... Samsung is announcing they're ditching Tizen for Google Wear altogether?! How awesome would THAT be?!
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What if... IF... Samsung is announcing they're ditching Tizen for Google Wear altogether?! How awesome would THAT be?!
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It would be awesome. Samsung has already stated that they are releasing a wear smartwatch, which is most likely a test to see what their customers will go for. Judging by the huge gaping hole in the Tizen app store, I don't blame them. By formally releasing their own Google Wear device, it looks like they have already made their decision as to the future of Tizen on smart watches. At least for now.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/wearables/n...ar-smartwatch-at-google-io-2014-report-546198

So now that samsung gear live has been announced and is available for order today can we get that os on our neos?
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It seems unclear what the Samsung strategy is, as the new device has no camera or home button.
It sounded like Samsung siding with Google and maybe ditching Tizen.
Hopefully it will be a mix and Gear 2 & Neo users get Google Wear, but knowing Samsung after barely 3 months they may just ditch them.
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jyan_osu said:
So now that samsung gear live has been announced and is available for order today can we get that os on our neos?
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I agree, I expect our Gear watches have very similar hardware to the new Samsung Android Wear device and just maybe now that we have root on this device, we could flash an Android Wear ROM onto them?
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jscsltd said:
I agree, I expect our Gear watches have very similar hardware to the new Samsung Android Wear device and just maybe now that we have root on this device, we could flash an Android Wear ROM onto them?
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In theory yes. I know that me and some other developers are working on creating custom roms and recovery for the gear 2/neo. Its just a matter of time before we can access the recovery. Once that is done we should be able to flash Android Wear on to them. The Live and Neo are almost the same compared to specs. The Gear 2, however, has a camera function that isn't present in Live. Also the IR function would be gone as well.

fogame said:
In theory yes. I know that me and some other developers are working on creating custom roms and recovery for the gear 2/neo. Its just a matter of time before we can access the recovery. Once that is done we should be able to flash Android Wear on to them. The Live and Neo are almost the same compared to specs. The Gear 2, however, has a camera function that isn't present in Live. Also the IR function would be gone as well.
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That's excellent news and I'd be very interested in giving this a go as it's looking like Tizen is 'dead in cradle'!
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Any Idea??

now as we see the new Gear S2
any idea if the Gear 2/neo getting new interface update or will stick to the current interface
also. any one know if there is any available custom firmware, other than the Tizen mode 3
I tried rooting to Android and it worked very will, but the battery life is really very bad

drmsh2020 said:
now as we see the new Gear S2
any idea if the Gear 2/neo getting new interface update or will stick to the current interface
also. any one know if there is any available custom firmware, other than the Tizen mode 3
I tried rooting to Android and it worked very will, but the battery life is really very bad
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Have you tried Google ware its runs OK I use it daily charge battery every other day
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im running an android wear port and its working pretty well. Cant **** Tracy answer calls on the watch yet, but "OK Google" works on it along with Nav on the watch etc etc. Its pretty slick. Heres the thread

Android Wear 2.0 on Gear 2 Neo

Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.

I want android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo too!
do you have the links for 1.5? the screen show you when u have a new whatsapp?
Thx!

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MonsterArmy12 said:
Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.
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Just remove the https part and paste the link here please

halil_aykent said:
Just remove the https part and paste the link here please
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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go

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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
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Thx!!

Any word on this one?? I too would REALLY appreciate the update to this so I can continue to use my watch.

Anyone willing to make a rom with andriod wear 2 ?
Had my neo working great on my nexus6P until the nexus crashed with the boot loop.
Was able to restore phone after a factory reset, but since then lost all watch faces I had. They used to be there under the new Wear OS (used to be andriod wear)
but all gone. The Rom i have is using andriod wear 1.4

It seems that 1.5 wear, and older, are not supported by wear OS app anymore. As Tizen does not work with non Samsung, my gear 2 neo have no connection to my mobile (Zuk Z2 Pro).
Does anyone know any turn around to make it connect to non samsung mobile?

@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.

Where can I find a android wear apk that works?

bg4m3r said:
@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.
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Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.

barrnunn said:
Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.
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If your watch has Tizen on it, you can't use Android Wear. You have to use the Samsung apps. If your watch has Wear, you have to go on apkmirror and get an old version of the app. I don't recall exactly how far back you need to go. Also, let the app find the phone. Don't connect it to Bluetooth first.

Any pointers on where to find an older gear apk?

Hi, everyone it work for gear 2 (ir and camera)
Regards