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Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
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appelflap said:
Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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So you think they work with special APIs? Or just the standard APIs? I saw there were already some interesting apps on the Samsung market like for example Zine. It has a controller architecture. On the Gear side you get headlines pushed and by tapping on a headline the Zine app is opened with the corresponding article. Can this can be done with standard Android APIs or do we need a special APIs for that. I can imagine that this can be done with the standard event model.
@lucf I did, couldn't find anything interesting wrt this topic. If you stumble upon some good posts let me know! Thx
Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
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Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
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Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
appelflap said:
Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
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"We need to make sure we're ready to go big."
Thats a quote from the article, they will be released. Although not just yet..
they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
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they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
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It's definitely a remarkable manoeuvre. Another remarkable thing is that everything is kept in the Samsung app store. It's not a secret that Samsung has big ambitions. Maybe they are trying to build their own ecosystem in the Android ecosystem. Maybe they gonna lock the APIs in some kind of Samsung Appstore service. Meh .. let's hope Google comes up with a watch soon and an addition to the Android framework for smart watches.
I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
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I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
Just speculation on my part --
I have a feeling that Samsung is simply testing waters with this initial release of Gear. They are very serious about it, but they also know that it's not entirely polished product. They wanted to be first to market.
I think the 2rev of Gear might have some radical changes. They could probably build it on top of Kitkat (optimized for low memory devices?) and some new low energy communication protocols. Probably they will then open the APIs for all devs. Maybe we will also see some of the curved screen goodness!
But it's for sure they will never make the Gear compatible with all Android by default -- doesn't make a good business sense. Google will obviously try to make their smartwatch compatible with all Android, and that makes perfect business sense for google.
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Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
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are you the guy who made it? nice. i sideloaded it into my Gear. works flawlessly, althought I would like to see some colored theme like numbers in one color, functions in other. 5 stars from me! super lite too!
Thanks...The coloured buttons are on the way...
Hi all!
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate the possibility of the iPhone & Gear 1(Tizen OS) cooperation.
My observations regarding what works, so far:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality (which means you can actually talk over the Gear)
2) Caller ID
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
The interesting result is that Tizen OS offers Caller ID info on the iPhone, whereas the Android OS did not.
Please feel free to contribute to this thread with your own test, results, conclusions.
gidi said:
Hi all!
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate the possibility of the iPhone & Gear 1(Tizen OS) cooperation.
My observations regarding what works, so far:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality (which means you can actually talk over the Gear)
2) Caller ID
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
The interesting result is that Tizen OS offers Caller ID info on the iPhone, whereas the Android OS did not.
Please feel free to contribute to this thread with your own test, results, conclusions.
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interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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zadigre said:
interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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What he means is that syncing your Gear to your iPhone via bluetooth, when you receive an incoming call
only see is the phone number. Not the name attached to it in your contacts on the iphone. Hope this clears
it up for you.
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interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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I mean. That when the Gear run Android and was connected to the iPhone, Caller ID was not working, it has to do with the BT profiles the Gear is supporting with the Tizen OD vs what it supported with Android OS,
@Accounti my man maybe you should try to see if you can make the iPhine and the Tizen Gear talk to each other via BT. Some things are definitely changed.
Done some extensive testing with a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS 7.1.1) with btnotificationenabler cydia tweak installed.
Nothing new noted.
It seems that the iPhone thinks that the Gear is a handsfree device (so only handsfree BT profile is engaged).
I would appreciate any help, ideas, suggestions.
Thank you!
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Done some extensive testing with a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS 7.1.1) with btnotificationenabler cydia tweak installed.
Nothing new noted.
It seems that the iPhone thinks that the Gear is a handsfree device (so only handsfree BT profile is engaged).
I would appreciate any help, ideas, suggestions.
Thank you!
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Just purchased gear as a fitness wearable and music player
Working with my iPhone 5s non jailbreak perfectly apart from noticifcations
Hands free works perfect, activating siri on the phone then makes the sound and therefore the interaction come through the Gear
Pretty cool, so I'm planning on jailbreaking to see if there's a siri tweak/HotWord to enable me to activate without actually touching the iPhone
The BTnotifier cydia tweak you've tried, is there any form of notification coming through?
I know on my Pebble watch, is does state that you need to have Banners enabled on the iPhone for the notifications to show on the watch
I'm keen to get this to work too and there MUST be a way lol
pglandscapes said:
Just purchased gear as a fitness wearable and music player
Working with my iPhone 5s non jailbreak perfectly apart from noticifcations
Hands free works perfect, activating siri on the phone then makes the sound and therefore the interaction come through the Gear
Pretty cool, so I'm planning on jailbreaking to see if there's a siri tweak/HotWord to enable me to activate without actually touching the iPhone
The BTnotifier cydia tweak you've tried, is there any form of notification coming through?
I know on my Pebble watch, is does state that you need to have Banners enabled on the iPhone for the notifications to show on the watch
I'm keen to get this to work too and there MUST be a way lol
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Dude, i have done some extensive testing.
BTnotification enabler does not seem to offer anything.
The iPhone sees the Gear as a handsfree device.
In my case there is also caller id, but here is why:
Before connecting the Gear with the iPhone i had paired it to an HTC One and my addressbook was synched over to the watch.
Thing is, the Gear cannot grab the notofications even though the btnotificationenabler tweak exposes them over BT.
Only solution is to downgrade the Gear to Android and use the cloudnotifier tweak @Accounti has created but in that case:
1) There is no direct BT connection.
2) The Caller ID is not working.
3) Battery life and overall responsiveness of the watch are not quite as good as when on Tizen.
Long story short: Wait for the iWatch.
gidi said:
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
gidi said:
Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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Yeah, we are a Mac based company. - no androids today meant I went back to Null rom.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Honestly....I went into my local phone shop, found a samsung test device, clicked the gear manager to connect to the gear and walked out again
As soon as it's activated, you're away!!
Gear App
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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Not fussed about an iWatch
I wanted a fitness wearable that could hold it's own music. The fact that it connects to my iPhone with the calls.siri, reads out sat nag directions through the watch speaker.....all a bonus
Added to which it cost me just £35!
Result-happy !!
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xetjoe said:
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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Added to which, since when did simply owning an iPhone make someone a fanbois?!
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Spitfirejay said:
How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Remove the setup wizard while flashing the rom in aroma, under samsung applications, select custom & then de-select "setup wizard" on the next screen.
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gidi said:
Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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remove the 'SecSetupWizardW.apk' from system/app and it will work !
adame said:
Remove the setup wizard while flashing the rom in aroma, under samsung applications, select custom & then de-select "setup wizard" on the next screen.
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Right, I understand how to do this for Null, I'm talking about finding a way to bypass on Tizen. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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Did you get one and is it compatible? The WearCheck site says it's compatible at least.
Not yet.
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edwaine said:
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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I use Samsung Gear Live and it works pretty fine with Nokia X2, but watches itself is not so usefull and handy product, I'm totally unhappy with it!
strovs said:
I use Samsung Gear Live and it works pretty fine with Nokia X2, but watches itself is not so usefull and handy product, I'm totally unhappy with it!
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Question, do we need the android wear app to be installed to nokia x2. If so, does the app require google play services?
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You need to know that everything that you will do with your android wear watches is ask google voice search (run apps, reply messages and everything else). So, of course you need installed google play services, play store and google now app (and actually many more google apps because other's developers apps not compatibility with android wear.
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You need to know that everything that you will do with your android wear watches is ask google voice search (run apps, reply messages and everything else). So, of course you need installed google play services, play store and google now app (and actually many more google apps because other's developers apps not compatibility with android wear.
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Well yes. I still didn't brought one so I don't know what are the required apps to be installed. Sad, but though I love this phone im considering buying a zenfone 6 so I can use the smartwatch properly.
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The Moto 360 has suddenly stopped as incompatible on http://g.co/WearCheck when checking from the X2. It say's 4.3 is required and your phone is Android but not a 4.3 :S
That's weird. It showed as compatible a few weeks ago.
Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.
I want android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo too!
do you have the links for 1.5? the screen show you when u have a new whatsapp?
Thx!
Just remove https part
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Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.
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Just remove the https part and paste the link here please
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Just remove the https part and paste the link here please
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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go
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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go
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Thx!!
Any word on this one?? I too would REALLY appreciate the update to this so I can continue to use my watch.
Anyone willing to make a rom with andriod wear 2 ?
Had my neo working great on my nexus6P until the nexus crashed with the boot loop.
Was able to restore phone after a factory reset, but since then lost all watch faces I had. They used to be there under the new Wear OS (used to be andriod wear)
but all gone. The Rom i have is using andriod wear 1.4
It seems that 1.5 wear, and older, are not supported by wear OS app anymore. As Tizen does not work with non Samsung, my gear 2 neo have no connection to my mobile (Zuk Z2 Pro).
Does anyone know any turn around to make it connect to non samsung mobile?
@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.
Where can I find a android wear apk that works?
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@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.
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Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.
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Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.
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If your watch has Tizen on it, you can't use Android Wear. You have to use the Samsung apps. If your watch has Wear, you have to go on apkmirror and get an old version of the app. I don't recall exactly how far back you need to go. Also, let the app find the phone. Don't connect it to Bluetooth first.
Any pointers on where to find an older gear apk?
Hi, everyone it work for gear 2 (ir and camera)
Regards
Before I switch to Galaxy Note 9, I used iTunes to backup my iPhone or send files from PC.
Then I'm confused while I'm trying to find the similar official tool on Samsung's website.
I still remember there was a software called Kies that works fine when I was using Galaxy Note 2, and I have it installed on my PC.
The problem is that Kies seems outdated, it dones't work with Note 9 at all.
Am I using Kies in a wrong way? Or is there another official tool that I don't know yet?
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It seems like Samsung separate those functions into multiple products.
And finally I found a solution:
Backup: Samsung Smart Switch
File transfer: Samsung Flow
Sync: OneDrive (Didn't find Samsung's official tool. So I choose Microsoft's official one.)
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Before I switch to Galaxy Note 9, I used iTunes to backup my iPhone or send files from PC.
Then I'm confused while I'm trying to find the similar official tool on Samsung's website.
I still remember there was a software called Kies that works fine when I was using Galaxy Note 2, and I have it installed on my PC.
The problem is that Kies seems outdated, it dones't work with Note 9 at all.
Am I using Kies in a wrong way? Or is there another official tool that I don't know yet?
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Smart switch that you can backup everything on your phone.
mimo2008 said:
Smart switch that you can backup everything on your phone.
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Thank you. That would satisfy the backup part. But what about the file transfering, like automatically syncing?
mimo2008 said:
Smart switch that you can backup everything on your phone.
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You can backup most, but NOT app data...
/CK
Sounds like you're after Google backup and drive. Samsung are just a maker of android phones. Unlike Apple, you have an operating system that does a bunch of stuff then the manufacturer puts some stuff on top.
Most of what you are after is built into the os.
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Sounds like you're after Google backup and drive. Samsung are just a maker of android phones. Unlike Apple, you have an operating system that does a bunch of stuff then the manufacturer puts some stuff on top.
Most of what you are after is built into the os.
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Well, it's a whole new story in China. But I will give it a shot.
Try Samsung SideSync for using your phone from your PC and moving files around.
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Try Samsung SideSync for using your phone from your PC and moving files around.
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It looks like what I want. But bad news is that SideSync in Google Play is not compatible with Note 9. Also on its website, it says that SideSync is not available for the S9/S9+, as well as Note 9. But I will try it with an apk file anyway.