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Google Play and my 8.9 Galaxy

Ever since I got my 8.9 Galaxy tab I've noticed issues with the Google Play store. Things like the HBO Go app not being available for it, but if you were to go behind the Google Play and manual install the Kindle fire's version it would work beautifully. I've ran into other apps that are not available for me, but are for similar devices. Now I'm noticing google is offering magazines, but they are only for 7 & 10 inch devices. Which makes no sense to me since you can buy a whole range of monitors for your computer and that doesn't seem to affect what your doing on it.
I guess I'm used to a world where to run an app you only need to have the correct OS and hardware to run it.
Why does android applications seem more concerned with brand name of your device and the screen size?

magazines
Looks like just after my post they updated my Google Play to allow for the purchases of magazines. It still seems that there are issues with the Android Market when it comes to compatibility that don't truly reflect if your device is compatible or not.

Benknot said:
Looks like just after my post they updated my Google Play to allow for the purchases of magazines. It still seems that there are issues with the Android Market when it comes to compatibility that don't truly reflect if your device is compatible or not.
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Google Play has been like this for a long time. Developers may wish on allow their app on confirmed working devices and will place restrictions on who can download it. While this helps keep their ratings higher from incompatible users hating their app. It leaves less popular devices out in the cold regardless of compatibility issues. But its why we have apk files and friendly xda members to get them for us

Hbo go updated their app it works now
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My SGH-I957R is still running Android Market 1.0.28. I purchased it new in December and it is totally stock, shouldnt it have updated to Google Play?

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My SGH-I957R is still running Android Market 1.0.28. I purchased it new in December and it is totally stock, shouldnt it have updated to Google Play?
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Yea.
Clear the app cache or data
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My tab 8.9 does not want to load anything! I have tried clearing cache , clearing data, factory resets, still nothing!!!!

How well does the KFHD works in the eco-system?

I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,

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I have been using Nook HD+(10inch) running Carbon rom in EMMC. It works pretty well. That and my GN2. When I originally brought the HD+ I was looking at the screen resolution as my primary concern as I use my tablet mainly for reading manga and watching movie. And it does that perfectly well. Now that the 7inch have just updated(Nexus 7 and assuming the new KFHD will follow) to have at least FHD resolution, I'm thinking maybe getting 7-inch tablet to replace the 10-inch is not such a bad idea. While I still concern about the resolution being so cram that any manga reading would be terrible, but I can try doing so simulation to experience with that. And that would be just any HD 7-inch tablet in general. My concern in choosing the variant of 7-inch would be the eco-system since it would look like either the new 2013 Nexus 7 or the new KFHD would be 2 obvious choice. Right now I have app in both Google Play Store and Amazon App Store, but since neither of my phone or tablet is Kindle based it's hard to judge. The problem I have right now is the Amazon App Store, for many time it seem after each update of Amazon App Store it force me to re-login. That alone isn't so bad, but combining the fact that Amazon App Store now doesn't allow you to paste the password in, this is a big issue for me as I use(and should be using) a long complex password. So this brought me to the questions.
1. How does the KFHD work in regarding the app management and the app store service? Does it work as well as normal android using Google Play Store?
2. Does the KF experience allow you to have Google Play Store work in conjunction with? I know the Nook UI was terrible with this prior to the official support.
3. Since I also have Prime, I know I could use watch FHD content on the KFHD, but IF say custom rom on the new KFHD is possible(still not sure is that a good idea yet nor would the new device be a total lock down) would an Amazon video would still works? I know this is more like education guess at this point, but I think the better question would be; based on the past experience how does Amazon support or restrict the mod community effect the experience? I know that was one of the problem comparing Nook HD to the KFHD, since the Nook HD hardware was more open than the KFHD, meaning easier to get custom rom running.
Any constructive advices are also appreciated.
Thanks,
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OK lemme try to answer this to the best of my abilities:
1. If you are asking does the amazon store work decently then yes it works pretty well, and everything u buy will show up in your cloud so u don't have to go to the store and search for it to reinstall it, u just goto ur cloud to do so. Personally I don't like the amazon store as much because IMHO it seems like I could sometimes find newer versions of apps I bought there in the Google store, but that was only in some cases.
2.Google play store works just fine. The Google play store does work in conjunction with the amazon store in a sense, as far as I know if it recognizes an app from the Amazon store and let's say its a free app and the Google store has a more up to date version it will let u update it, but in terms of using both at once they work fine, just don't ever update amazon apps that show up in Google play store as they mess up when updated, and u have to uninstall them.
3. We indeed have custom roms, I am currently on one myself, jesters tablet ui of hashcode's cm10.1. Unfortunately as far as I know there is no way to watch amazon movies on a alternate ROM outside of using flash player on their site, and keep in mind flash player is quite buggy on jb since adobe decided to stop supporting android... My flash player tends to crash when watching videos online if I click inside the flash player more than around 8 times.
Also thought I'd mention from experience I enjoy reading tons of manga on my kindle HD 7”, don't know if u have have been using a web browser for it, but if u have I highly suggest getting a free app called quick manga from the Google play store, it supports a lot of sites and only dl's the picture and displays it while preloading the next few pages. It allows you to bookmark them, keeps track of your current chapter and page, and download chapters if u want for off line viewing as well. I love me some manga! I have over 227 manga total in my library, not all that are ongoing though. If you ever need manga suggestions feel free to pm me!
Hope I answered your questions, I was falling asleep reading manga and got on the forum to wake myself up so I wasn't exactly in the best condition while reading and replying to your questions.
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Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?

someone0 said:
Thanks for the quick response. So KFHD won't just ask you to re-login every time there is the app store update? And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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OK to clear one thing up, on the amazon os, the amazon app store doesn't update, and if it does it does it with the is updates. The kindles linked to your account and always stays signed in unless you unlink it, or for some reason if you clear your cache and dalvik cache , that will also usually unlink it for me.
As to your other question I am not very sure, I have never had an android device before my kindle, I haven't had a cellphone in 2 years since I lost mine outside. The kindle I have is a gift and I am jobless, and after having experience using a kindle and flashing a new is on it I find it fun to do because I'm a PC tech. But I look at it this way, if a new kindle comes out, we will first have to find out how to root it, this may be the easier part. Second we would have to determine if its even feasible to be able to put a custom or 2nd boot loader on it like the past 3(not counting first gen because it was already unlocked). So if the new one came out and u wanted to get one right away the nexus would probably be a better idea unless you want to wait and see how the new one would be in terms of rooting and flashing. But personally since I haven't used any other tablets, the kindle has grown on me, so I would probably get the new one if I could assuming the conditions above could be met.
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someone0 said:
And say, when the next KFHD come out and your current one broke, would you buy the new one or the Nexus 7 considering if the new KFHD has FHD resolution also?
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
-T

If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.

Thank you, I will keep an eye out for that custom rom. I would not have known that if I didn't post the question nor dig deeply in the KFHD scene.
JulianPaoloThiry said:
If you want the benefits of the Amazon side of things AND those of the Google side of things, go for the custom ROM called Kinology. It's the stock OS with the Google services stack installed, along with some of the annoyances fixed and a few extra features.
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I'm pretty much like you, T-Bone, while I'm using Nook HD+, ,y launcher of choice has always been Nova. And generally, I would not install the additional google store myself. Never touch those book/music/etc store and sometime I even use Titanium backup and force remove those stuff myself.
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As a former Nexus 7 (2012 version) owner for 10 months, I have an opinion
Assuming the new KFHD has FHD like the new Nexus 7, I would buy a new KFHD. Once rooted, the Kindle offers the full Amazon content and UI that I enjoy since I am a prime member, and the minimal UI that a third-party launcher (like Nova) offers. This is how I have my current KFHD configured. All the Google apps like Hangouts, Google+, etc, plus Amazon content.
The Nexus 7 offers a pure Android experience, but to be honest, I like do not like Google Play Books, nor do I like Google Play Movies. Since I am Prime, Google cannot compete with Amazon Prime books and instant video streaming. Oh, and I love Kindle Free Time unlimited kids's content for $3 per month.
But... if I were not Prime, then I would get a new Nexus 7 (2013) instead of a new KFHD FHD tablet.
Just one guy's opinion.
-T
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I guess that mean, I'll wait for Amazon announcement and pre-order the new KFHD if the apec goes according to the rumor. Thank you for all your insightful input.

[Q] Android Wear Compatibility for Nokia X2

I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.

edwaine said:
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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Did you get one and is it compatible? The WearCheck site says it's compatible at least.

Not yet.
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edwaine said:
I am planning to buy a Android Wear (Specifically the Moto 360).
I've already checked the android wear test site and it was compatible with my Nokia X2 (because it was based on 4.3}.
I still have doubts if this can run alongside with my phone knowing that this phone initially doesn't support Google Apps.
Can anyone confirm that this (Nokia X2) is working with an android wear product.
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I use Samsung Gear Live and it works pretty fine with Nokia X2, but watches itself is not so usefull and handy product, I'm totally unhappy with it!

strovs said:
I use Samsung Gear Live and it works pretty fine with Nokia X2, but watches itself is not so usefull and handy product, I'm totally unhappy with it!
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Question, do we need the android wear app to be installed to nokia x2. If so, does the app require google play services?
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You need to know that everything that you will do with your android wear watches is ask google voice search (run apps, reply messages and everything else). So, of course you need installed google play services, play store and google now app (and actually many more google apps because other's developers apps not compatibility with android wear.

strovs said:
You need to know that everything that you will do with your android wear watches is ask google voice search (run apps, reply messages and everything else). So, of course you need installed google play services, play store and google now app (and actually many more google apps because other's developers apps not compatibility with android wear.
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Well yes. I still didn't brought one so I don't know what are the required apps to be installed. Sad, but though I love this phone im considering buying a zenfone 6 so I can use the smartwatch properly.
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The Moto 360 has suddenly stopped as incompatible on http://g.co/WearCheck when checking from the X2. It say's 4.3 is required and your phone is Android but not a 4.3 :S
That's weird. It showed as compatible a few weeks ago.

$49.99 kindle fire 7

getting a kindle fire for 49.99 from amazon. i was wondering how hard it is to install google services. i see a tutorial for root/and google services. i have been a google android person for a liong time, the only reason i am gettting is because its all i can afford. and have already tried to tablets same price. was wondering to what extent google service are installed, like the app store, can i download apk's thru browser and play them on the kindle?
thanX in advance

barelynotlegal said:
getting a kindle fire for 49.99 from amazon. i was wondering how hard it is to install google services. i see a tutorial for root/and google services. i have been a google android person for a liong time, the only reason i am gettting is because its all i can afford. and have already tried to tablets same price. was wondering to what extent google service are installed, like the app store, can i download apk's thru browser and play them on the kindle?
thanX in advance
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[Index]Amazon Fire 7" - 5th Gen-2015
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One thing I want to mention - if you are planning to replace amazon software do not let your tablet connect to the internet. Do not play with it before rooting and disabling OTA update. If it updates to certain version of software it is not possible to root anymore.

Would the basic Fire 7 likely be able to run this app from the Google Play store?

I'm looking for an inexpensive tablet to run the Tacx Cycling App available through the Google Play Store. It appears that one can download the Google Play store to the basic 2015 Amazon Fire 7 but I'm wondering if having done so that I could actually get the Tacx Cycling App to function correctly with the Fire 7.
The Tacx Cycling app mentions:
Works with Android 4.3+
Connecting to Bluetooth devices requires Bluetooth 4.0 support on your tablet.
I'm hoping that Fire 5.XXXX is Android like enough to work with the app but working from a limited knowledge of the topic.
Thanks for any educated thoughts on the topic.
Hugh

sciguy1911 said:
I'm looking for an inexpensive tablet to run the Tacx Cycling App available through the Google Play Store. It appears that one can download the Google Play store to the basic 2015 Amazon Fire 7 but I'm wondering if having done so that I could actually get the Tacx Cycling App to function correctly with the Fire 7.
The Tacx Cycling app mentions:
Works with Android 4.3+
Connecting to Bluetooth devices requires Bluetooth 4.0 support on your tablet.
I'm hoping that Fire 5.XXXX is Android like enough to work with the app but working from a limited knowledge of the topic.
Thanks for any educated thoughts on the topic.
Hugh
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Yes. FireOS is essentially heavily skinned Android. Unless the app relies on Google Play Services you can run the app on FireOS.
If your OS version is <5.3.2, however, there are custom ROMs that give you stock Android goodness (AICP and Fire Nexus, CM12.1 is there but discontinued), and you can run any Play Store app.

negusp said:
Yes. FireOS is essentially heavily skinned Android. Unless the app relies on Google Play Services you can run the app on FireOS.
If your OS version is <5.3.2, however, there are custom ROMs that give you stock Android goodness (AICP and Fire Nexus, CM12.1 is there but discontinued), and you can run any Play Store app.
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Thanks Negusp,
For the current $39 selling price, it makes for an attractive computer to use specifically for this purpose. Bike computers cost nearly 10 X as much and won't control the trainer as well.
Cheers,
Hugh