Just thought I'd post this up. I am a big Wazer, so got in the car to take a trip, powered up Waze, but no GPS. Stuck it on the dash and it got signal, but as I'd pull it back towards me I'd lose signal again. Finally gave up. During lunch, started looking at the issue some more. Downloaded several GPS apps, and all would say something like 21 sats available, but zero in use. I wasn't sure if the GPS system was down perhaps, until my girlfriend fired up her iPhone. Even in a restaurant, she had full signal. Didn't find much on the web about the issue with the Nexus 5, so decided to wait until I got home to compare it with my old Nexus 4. Well, on the way back I got to looking at the phone and noticed the back cover had popped away about 0.05MM just above the volume up/down rocker. I snapped it back in place (which was easy) and immediately got full GPS satellite signal. So, that was the problem. Then I remembered dropping the phone in the bathroom earlier this morning. It fell about 18" onto hardwood flooring. It seemed fine at the time, but I didn't notice the separation in the back panel. Subsequent searching reveals that the GPS antenna is secured to the back maybe? Guess it didn't take much separation to significantly curtail getting a signal anyplace but outside in the open or through glass. Anyway, I am glad it wan't serious. Just thought I'd tell the story... CG
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It appears that my compass is "twitchy". I can't think of a better word to describe it. Using any program that uses the onboard compass shows the same results. For example on GPS Status the compass is constantly moving back and forth by a few degress, when I do compass mode on Street View the same thing happens, the screen is constantly moving back and forth slightly.
I've gone out of my way to make sure that I'm not near anything metal and placed the phone on the ground, with the same results.
This is my third phone and all three have done the exact same thing. This all started after I got the OTA cupcake.
Right now I'm running Cyanogen's most recent experimental build.
Any thoughts?
I would wipe and reflash and see if it still doing it. If it does I would then go back to rc29 and see if its doing it. If it still is doing it then its prolly a hardware problem.
supremeteam256 said:
I would wipe and reflash and see if it still doing it. If it does I would then go back to rc29 and see if its doing it. If it still is doing it then its prolly a hardware problem.
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A hardware problem that shows up on the past 3 phones that I've had, the one phone my wife has and didn't show up until we both got cupcake updates?
My bad I overlooked the 3 phones thing. Well you can still try to go down to rc29 which won't be cupcake and see if its doing it.
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My bad I overlooked the 3 phones thing. Well you can still try to go down to rc29 which won't be cupcake and see if its doing it.
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No twitchyness on a precupcake build.
Talk about peculiar huh? Total of 4 phones that this is happening too.
Do you live in the Bermuda Triangle
I wish it were that simple.
I thought that maybe the software's filter might have been lowered when they did the update, so I've gone atleast 100 feet from anything metal or electronic and still have the same results.
Unless the filter is so low now that it's picking up interference from the phone itself? But then why are the phones that I come into contact with doing it and no one elses? I'll see if I check on one of my coworkers phones when I go in later today. See if his does it too.
I know this is a real stupid question but is your gps turned on. When I run a program that needs gps and its turned off it works but I guess you can say twitchy.
Just checked my coworkers phone and I got the same results. Also checked the mt3g that is on display and got the same results.
For gps status it requires the gps to be on, but for street view i've got the same results when gps is off as it is when on.
Maybe we just live in a very high iron ore area?
To clarify "twitchy" I mean that the compass (or display depending on the program used) is constantly moving back and forth by a few degrees. This is happening when the phone is placed on a flat level surface and not touched.
Thats strange.
Gilliland12 said:
Just checked my coworkers phone and I got the same results. Also checked the mt3g that is on display and got the same results.
For gps status it requires the gps to be on, but for street view i've got the same results when gps is off as it is when on.
Maybe we just live in a very high iron ore area?
To clarify "twitchy" I mean that the compass (or display depending on the program used) is constantly moving back and forth by a few degrees. This is happening when the phone is placed on a flat level surface and not touched.
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idk if this is a fix. but to keep my compass healthy i shake my phone holding it upside,downside up and every way direction for like a minute and then go over my bed and spin/twist my phone in the air about 1 foot above the bed in almost every way possible . i was reading before that it will prevent the compas from getting stuck whenever near magnets.
but i just opened up my orienteer compass app and it is too going back and forth between 2 degrees..but then again its not too big of an issue.
Like many users my N1 isn't exactly perfect but I have putting up with it since day one (release day) since I like what the phone does when it does properly.
I have touch screen accuracy issues, mitigated somewhat by having a silicone case around the phone and using Swype and occasionally pressing the power button off and on to get it working again. My camera has a pinkish hue which HTC said I should try to remove by doing a factory reset. My wifi isn't exactly great with it taking often 30s or more to download a page on my home wifi and with the latest firmware, my GPS seems to be erratic.
The phone hardly ever can get a lock on the satellites when it's in the car on the dash which makes it pretty useless as a car GPS device but outside it seems to lock on okay. Occasionally if I an outside and get a lock, then take the phone in the car, it maintains a lock.
This was never great but got worse it seems with the latest firmware. The phone itself isn't rooted.
Reading the horror stories about refurbs and having to go through more than one I just wonder if getting a refurb is going to help me. I would go the send refurb to me first route so I wouldn't be without a phone during the swap and possibly send the refurb back if it wasn't working properly.
I presume it's highly unlikely that HTC has new units to send out now for warranty replacements?
What do folks think?
So back in January the 10th I made the mistake of buying my lovely Sony Xperia Z1, and as soon as I took it out of the box and started calling people I started getting told that they couldn't understand what the hell I was saying. I was really happy with my phone otherwise, and didn't want to turn in the phone. So I waited for the 4.4 update hoping it would fix it. I waited for quite some time, because every time I checked it was just one week away from release or something like that.
Anyways, when the phone finally got released, it didn't fix a thing, (and made the notification pull down menu ugly as hell, lol)
So I turned my phone in for repairs. About 2 weeks later it was returned to me, no problems found. And I got it back in the same condition, just factory reset. Wonderful.
So I went back with it again, explaining it in further detail, that it was sporadic, only sometimes would my calls become really choppy, and nobody would be able to understand me. So we wrote a much more detailed report on what is wrong with the phone, explaining everything.
Once again I get it back, no errors found, but factory reset. Only now the camera locks up every time I take a picture, and the power off button won't work, the wifi is slow as hell, cant watch videos, streams, anything. And I keep losing the signal.
Anyways, I've turned the device in now for the third time, but I have a feeling itll get returned still broken as hell, or even more broken somehow.
I talked to the guy at the shop, and he said they couldn't give me a new phone, even a new z1, either, if thhey don't find an error.
In the beginning the guys at the place I bought the phone thought it was because of the place I lived (a mountain village in the middle of nowhere)
But now I've moved across norway into a pretty big city, and same issues wherever I go
So now I'm at the end of my ropes, I'm starting to think I should just leave it in my car as a GPS and keep using my nexus 4. That or tape it to my toilet and use it as a doo doo target.
Let me start off by saying that I really like this phone and I'm no where near giving up on it.
With that said, I bought 3 of these within the first couple of days after release.
For me - Current occupation - IT System Administrator with 18 years of experience in various areas of IT
My son - Current in college, going for his Computer Science degree.
My daughter - Currently in college and surrounded by tech her whole life as I am a tech lover.
I mention who we are only so people don't assume that we are typical end users that can't figure out the difference between their heads and their asses.
My son has returned his Turbo twice (both metallic black). The first time, he had major scrolling issues. Phone would "fling" through pages unprompted while touching the screen. The second one he returned because there is a glue problem or something like it with the back of the phone, near the bottom. Makes a creaking noise (loud) if you press on the back near the bottom.
My daughter has just returned her first (32 GB Ballistic). Hers will not connect to WiFi without a reboot. Very annoying. Airplane mode first then trying didn't work.
Mine - I have not returned by 64 GB Ballistic yet but I think I am going to exchange it. I have problems with WiFi connecting also. It isn't as bad as hers in that mine occasionally connects without a reboot. In addition, mine definitely has some sort of touch screen issue. The screen becomes unresponsive at times and requires me to press the home button to "reset" the screen. I installed display tester and checked the multi-touch test and found that sometimes it won't register all fingers or one fingers touch is chaotic, wiggling all around while the others are ok. I also have a volume issue of some kind. I have to turn the phone up past half volume just to hear it... even in a quiet room.
I do really like this phone and have every intention of keeping it assuming that I can get one that doesn't have issues. Not sure if it was rushed or whatever but there is a definitely some build quality issues going on here.... Makes me very sad.
The second one he returned because there is a glue problem or something like it with the back of the phone, near the bottom. Makes a creaking noise (loud) if you press on the back near the bottom.
This is an issue for some and I believe there are some youtube videos demonstrating it.
For the call volume issue try disabling the equalizer, I read on here from a few people that that is the fix, I use the equalizer but haven't had a problem with the sound.
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Thanks guys. I'm surprised that there haven't been more comments. I was kind of hoping that people would say, "no problems here" or "yeah dude, wtf". Still love this phone. I think its the motorola apps and how they have nailed it in the "what I personally like" categories. Active screen and such are great.
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Thanks guys. I'm surprised that there haven't been more comments. I was kind of hoping that people would say, "no problems here" or "yeah dude, wtf". Still love this phone. I think its the motorola apps and how they have nailed it in the "what I personally like" categories. Active screen and such are great.
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I'm one of the few who got a good Turbo. Bought it on launch day and have had none of the problems people on here have mentioned. No creaking on the back, no scroll issue, no screen temperature issue, nothing. The connectivity issues you talk about don't happen to me. I'd say just keep getting them exchanged until you have a good one.
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Let me start off by saying that I really like this phone and I'm no where near giving up on it.
My daughter has just returned her first (32 GB Ballistic). Hers will not connect to WiFi without a reboot. Very annoying. Airplane mode first then trying didn't work.
Mine - I have not returned by 64 GB Ballistic yet but I think I am going to exchange it. I have problems with WiFi connecting also. It isn't as bad as hers in that mine occasionally connects without a reboot. In addition, mine definitely has some sort of touch screen issue. The screen becomes unresponsive at times and requires me to press the home button to "reset" the screen. I installed display tester and checked the multi-touch test and found that sometimes it won't register all fingers or one fingers touch is chaotic, wiggling all around while the others are ok. I also have a volume issue of some kind. I have to turn the phone up past half volume just to hear it... even in a quiet room.
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OMG FINALLY someone with my same problems! So I'm not going crazy. I swapped it out once, had same issue with the new one, but now it seems the issue is only at my works wifi. I have seen online there are issues with the phone and Cisco routers, and I assume we have Cisco routers here at work since our phones are Cisco...so I'm just chalking it up to an issue with my works wifi and letting it go. But what happens for me is I'll connect to wifi and then it'll disconnect randomly, so I have to either turn airplane mode on and off and fiddle with that and "forgetting" the network, or just restart my phone. It's rather annoying, but I have no other option as the phone works wonderfully on all other wifi networks.
Never knew I had the same glue/creaking problem until I read this. Now it will bug me until I do something about it. ?. What's the solution? Exchange or diy repair?
Despiadado1 said:
Let me start off by saying that I really like this phone and I'm no where near giving up on it.
With that said, I bought 3 of these within the first couple of days after release.
For me - Current occupation - IT System Administrator with 18 years of experience in various areas of IT
My son - Current in college, going for his Computer Science degree.
My daughter - Currently in college and surrounded by tech her whole life as I am a tech lover.
I mention who we are only so people don't assume that we are typical end users that can't figure out the difference between their heads and their asses.
My son has returned his Turbo twice (both metallic black). The first time, he had major scrolling issues. Phone would "fling" through pages unprompted while touching the screen. The second one he returned because there is a glue problem or something like it with the back of the phone, near the bottom. Makes a creaking noise (loud) if you press on the back near the bottom.
My daughter has just returned her first (32 GB Ballistic). Hers will not connect to WiFi without a reboot. Very annoying. Airplane mode first then trying didn't work.
Mine - I have not returned by 64 GB Ballistic yet but I think I am going to exchange it. I have problems with WiFi connecting also. It isn't as bad as hers in that mine occasionally connects without a reboot. In addition, mine definitely has some sort of touch screen issue. The screen becomes unresponsive at times and requires me to press the home button to "reset" the screen. I installed display tester and checked the multi-touch test and found that sometimes it won't register all fingers or one fingers touch is chaotic, wiggling all around while the others are ok. I also have a volume issue of some kind. I have to turn the phone up past half volume just to hear it... even in a quiet room.
I do really like this phone and have every intention of keeping it assuming that I can get one that doesn't have issues. Not sure if it was rushed or whatever but there is a definitely some build quality issues going on here.... Makes me very sad.
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What's the verdict on the crackling noise underneath the ballistic nylon? Did they exchange it?
Only problem I have is the call volume could be a little louder. Coming from a S4 I usually had to turn it down.
I'm really wondering if you guys that are having trouble with call volume are not holding the speaker in the right position. I never had a problem with my call volume until today. My third call of the day seemed to be extremely quiet until I repositioned the phone and got the speaker lined up more with my ear. For comparison sake, I had to do the same on my S3 on almost every call, so I wouldn't consider this phone bad on that account either. It's something easy to try anyways before exchanging a potentially otherwise good/perfect phone. If it doesn't work you wasted 10 seconds.
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What's the verdict on the crackling noise underneath the ballistic nylon? Did they exchange it?
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Yeah, they exchanged it. No real problems with Verizon in that regard.
RobinsonR810 said:
OMG FINALLY someone with my same problems! So I'm not going crazy. I swapped it out once, had same issue with the new one, but now it seems the issue is only at my works wifi. I have seen online there are issues with the phone and Cisco routers, and I assume we have Cisco routers here at work since our phones are Cisco...so I'm just chalking it up to an issue with my works wifi and letting it go. But what happens for me is I'll connect to wifi and then it'll disconnect randomly, so I have to either turn airplane mode on and off and fiddle with that and "forgetting" the network, or just restart my phone. It's rather annoying, but I have no other option as the phone works wonderfully on all other wifi networks.
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I dont think its just Cisco though I did read some other articles about that and the type of wifi encryption. This has been at a few different locations. For my daughter, it happens at our home but my son doesn't have any issue.
I was given this Verizon G2. The complaint was random reboots resulting in getting stuck at LG logo at boot. I Googled and found out that the internal SD card solder connection to the main board goes bad. So, I tried a standard conventional oven @ home reflow of the main board. I removed the G2 main board and baked it in the oven at 380° for 8 mins. I am typing this post from the phone. It successfully rebooted on the first try after reassembly. It has been up running CyanogenMod 12.1 (flashed before bake) for about 10 mins. I booted it and went straight to chrome and xda.com. I'll be back later. I'm gonna go make some calls and play games and see if I still get a reboot.
Update 1: I'm an hour or two in now and have made a 20+ minute phone call while using a Bluetooth headset and still using other apps like social media and reddit.
Update 2 -Final update: Since I got zero replies on this, I'll assume no one cares. If anyone does, the phone is still working. I've been using it as my daily driver for like 3 or 4 days now. I'm gonna keep using it for another couple weeks until my tax return gets in and I can buy an unlocked D851.
.........The End........
I say FASCINATING! How do you get it apart to get the main board out? Mine never gets LTE anymore, which sounds to me like an antenna came disconnected. Heating up the antenna connections might be worth a shot.
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I was given this Verizon G2. The complaint was random reboots resulting in getting stuck at LG logo at boot. I Googled and found out that the internal SD card solder connection to the main board goes bad. So, I tried a standard conventional oven @ home reflow of the main board. I removed the G2 main board and baked it in the oven at 380° for 8 mins. I am typing this post from the phone. It successfully rebooted on the first try after reassembly. It has been up running CyanogenMod 12.1 (flashed before bake) for about 10 mins. I booted it and went straight to chrome and xda.com. I'll be back later. I'm gonna go make some calls and play games and see if I still get a reboot.
Update 1: I'm an hour or two in now and have made a 20+ minute phone call while using a Bluetooth headset and still using other apps like social media and reddit.
Update 2 -Final update: Since I got zero replies on this, I'll assume no one cares. If anyone does, the phone is still working. I've been using it as my daily driver for like 3 or 4 days now. I'm gonna keep using it for another couple weeks until my tax return gets in and I can buy an unlocked D851.
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You will never be able to truly reflow any electronic devices in your typical household oven as they do not get hot enough. Standard leadfree reflow temperatures peak around 500F, after a ramp up and ramp down time that prevents thermal stresses from destroying the parts. Even with the proper equipment, reflowing BGA/CSP parts is difficult without removing the parts first and then re-balling them as the flux has already been cured during the initial solder process.
I would seriously caution anyone from attempting this without the proper tools and knowledge as you could permanently damage any one of a number of components - I've seen IC packages literally explode after absorbed moisture in the device's resin packaging vaporized by ramping too fast.
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I care Rich, I care. I loved my G2 but it crapped out on me at school one day. No warning just froze and shut down. Got it back up long enough at one point to pull whatever data I could from it. I ended up getting an S6 Active after jumping between a few crap phones, and the G2 sat in a drawer until tonight when I was looking for some standoff screws in the drawer, and I saw my old flame. The pain from losing her never really went away, and for some reason, I think because I recently did a bit of soldering on a RPi, I thought what if I tried to re-flow this thing? What do I have to lose at this point. Googled g2 mainboard reflow, and your post lit up my life. I baked at 380F for some amount of time re-assembled and I have my G2 again! I may have tried it eventually, but your post inspired me to tear that **** out and turn on the oven right away. I mean, obviously I'm not going to ditch my S6 for the G2, but I'm happy to have it back. Maybe I'll use it for things. Thank you, Rich.
I care!
Mine stopped working.
Was getting pretty hot on a regular basis.
When plugged-in, no lights, just heating up.
Read about "solder re-flow" - don't know how to.