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I haven't received my Galaxy S yet but everytime I use my friend's I think the screen is just too blueish. Mostly the white parts. And I also think a "square field" is visible all over the screen. Is this because the resolution is too low compared to the size?
The phone itself is great so I still want it, but I'm afraid the screen will make me disapointed, especially since I've read so much about the Super AMOLED is so great.
Are all Galaxy S' screens like this?
What is the "square field"? please explain better.
And let's start from clearing the point of resolution/size-
800X480 is more than enough to go up to 7". If anything, it might be the pentile matrix that the screen uses.
I guess it's these "squares" I see: http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115591
You're probably right that it's more the pentile matrix I notice more than lack of resolution.
I cant understand why many reviews says this screen is very good when it's very noticable.
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
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What's the good side with PenTile? And yes, I've searched for "screen-door effect" and it seems as if that is what I'm seeing.
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
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What is the downside of losing video overlay?
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
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Oh. Well, guess I'm not going with that solution then
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
rocketpaul said:
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Ok, guess I'll have to wait until I get my before I know how bad it is.
My friend got a blueish Galaxy S I9000. Mine isnt that much!! Next to his looks like mine is Redish, but mine next to my Monitor looks blueish! I believe some Screens have more blue tint than others
Mine is very white. Put the phone on a white screen (using a screen torch app) and the screen looks whiter than a piece of white paper.
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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I´ve read something on a German Mobile Phone Review Site (don´t know the which one it was now) and they said, that this is normal, because of the AMOLED Tecnology. They said that the Colors will loose the intensity over the years and as blue is the most energetic Color in the spectrum it looses faster the intensity. That is why it looks now maybe a little bit diferent. After a while it should normalise, because it was planned by the manufactures.
Ok found the Site. Heres the translation:
Higher blue components of the display of the Galaxy S may have been deliberately created by Samsung with the idea that the blue OLEDs are aging much faster than green or red. After months of use should mitigate this effect and color balance to be balanced.
djr83 said:
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
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They could do that if they wanted to, yes. But don't expect them to do so, I don't think colour temperature is of any importance to them if it stays within usable range.
zeusalmighty said:
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
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Got this tip a while ago on some other thread - you can start Video player, play some video, go to Settings and change the Colour tone to Warm. It stays changed even when you leave the player. It's not perfect, but it helps a bit.
rocketpaul said:
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
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Actually, YES! Your eye do adjust to the white that you are looking at.
You've been doing this all of your life and haven't noticed it. The light in the morning is a very different color than the light at noon. In the morning, it is likely very red if the weather is good, and very white at noon... yet everything looks normal to you... because your eyes adapt to the color.
Adjusting to your screen is the same way. But compare it side by side with another screen and one or the other is going to look "wrong", usually the one you haven't been staring at all day!
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I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
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Congratulations, your brain has created a special filter, using a process called "adaption", by the human vision scientists, that blocks the screen-door effect. You didn't know it, but your brain created one years ago that blocked out the 'striped-lawn' effect caused by the columns of RGB subpixels on conventional color displays. That 'striped-lawn' effect was just as visible the first time you saw one, but that was likely many years ago.
Okay so this blue tint thing is somewhat strange, still no clear answers.
Some people are saying "this is normal for super amoleds." I have to disagree. If this was normal, then every single Super Amoled would have this blue tint. I've put my samsung galaxy s vibrant side by side next to the samsung galaxy s epic, fascinate, captivate and other vibrants. Some have a blue tint, and others don't. Others have nice rich whites, while some like mine have a blue tint.
Makes no sense, so I'm not buying the "all super amoleds have this blue tint" statement. They don't all have them!
I've used my phone for over 2 months now, and the blue tint is not fading at all. Something else people said. I don't plan to keep this phone for 10 years, waiting for the blue to fade, I want nice white now, not blue whites.
Anyone have any updates on this blue tint some galaxy s phones show?
Hi there,
The Galaxy Note is my first phone with a LED screen, I had a Desire HD before.
Since I got my Galaxy Note, the screen seems a bit yellowish to me.
When you tilt it a little bit to the side, you see the while colors becomes more white, but when you tilt it back, so the screen is right in front of you, then the white colors looks a bit yellowish again.
Is this normal for a LED screen?
I don't like the yellowish tint at all, but for the rest the screen looks amazing.
Thanks for your answers
Hmm I don't really notice any sort of yellow tint on my screen but then again I'm not the most color observant person . What you can try is go int settings==>display==>screen mode and change it from standard to dynamic or movie. I have it on dynamic and love it.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
Hmm I don't really notice any sort of yellow tint on my screen but then again I'm not the most color observant person . What you can try is go int settings==>display==>screen mode and change it from standard to dynamic or movie. I have it on dynamic and love it.
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Thanks for your answer
Yea I already tried dynamic mode, it makes the yellowish tint a little less, but it's still there.
You can notice it by yourself by tilting the phone.
Just put something on your screen that has a white color, and watch the screen from the side, it looks much nicer then.
Ohyea, by the way.
You can also notice the yellowish very good if you put the screen mode on movie
Just got my Galaxy Note N7000 today and noticed the same issue on mine. Tilting the screen slightly makes the whites look pure white while in its normal position the screen looks kinda yellow. I am not being able to understand if this is a faulty set or not
SAMOLED screens are supposed to have superior viewing angles, it is believed that the Oleophobic coating is causing the green/blue/yellow tinting that you see when the phone is tilted ( well in your case its a direct view ) my first screen had absolutely no color shift even at the most extreme angles, the new one I have now has a blue tint unless directly viewed.
The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
EarlZ said:
SAMOLED screens are supposed to have superior viewing angles, it is believed that the Oleophobic coating is causing the green/blue/yellow tinting that you see when the phone is tilted ( well in your case its a direct view ) my first screen had absolutely no color shift even at the most extreme angles, the new one I have now has a blue tint unless directly viewed.
The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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So what you are saying here is that we should use our phone while we keep it tilted? LOL
joshoon said:
So what you are saying here is that we should use our phone while we keep it tilted? LOL
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The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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How hard is that to understand?
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How hard is that to understand?
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Well, you don't have to be upset like that.
What I'm trying to say is that if you tilt the phone, it has great colors.
But when you look straight onto the screen, you see a yellowish screen.
Your conclusion is that the viewing angle are very good, and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
Looking straight onto the screen should not be a non usable angle.
And Im not the only one who's saying it, but when you tilt the phone, the colors looks much nicer.
Im not upset, I just found it amusing why it was not understood right off the bat.
Have your screen/phone replaced, thats clearly a quality control issue.
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Im not upset, I just found it amusing why it was not understood right off the bat.
Have your screen/phone replaced, thats clearly a quality control issue.
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But I just got it new, and more people are complaining about it (also some outside xda).
So I am wondering if it worths it to replace it, because it can happen again.
joshoon said:
But I just got it new, and more people are complaining about it (also some outside xda).
So I am wondering if it worths it to replace it, because it can happen again.
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Thats something only you can decide, IMHO thats a hardware defect.
Another person posted the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440582
If you google for Galaxy Note + green tint you'ed get a few results including this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335161
Some users report is as normal and accept it as normal, If its normal Im wondering why theres a green and blue tint difference and a few screens dont even have any tinting even at extreme angles. Like the first one I got (but had very visible horizontal lines )
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Thats something only you can decide, IMHO thats a hardware defect.
Another person posted the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440582
If you google for Galaxy Note + green tint you'ed get a few results including this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335161
Some users report is as normal and accept it as normal, If its normal Im wondering why theres a green and blue tint difference and a few screens dont even have any tinting even at extreme angles. Like the first one I got (but had very visible horizontal lines )
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Interesting.
Actually I'm not a whiner, so I can live with the tint for 2 years, but still...
If I will be in the center of my city, I will ask the phone store what they think, and what they will do to solve it.
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Interesting.
Actually I'm not a whiner, so I can live with the tint for 2 years, but still...
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All upto you, I how ever prefer to enjoy my device as defect free as possible. Especially for this device that boasts a 'great screen' and the high price tag.
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All upto you, I how ever prefer to enjoy my device as defect free as possible. Especially for this device that boasts a 'great screen' and the high price tag.
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True.
But I don't expect a device to be defect when it is just new.
Still there are also some people that say it is normal.
I also got a friend, he's a designer, and works with photoshop etc, and colors are very important to him.
I also told him about this issue, he said it happens more with screen, and it is seen as normal for these screens where it appears with.
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True.
But I don't expect a device to be defect when it is just new.
Still there are also some people that say it is normal.
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This is the reason why quality control is so random with samsung, people accepting defects as normal but dont let my expectations be yours as long as your happy with the device thats what is important.
joshoon said:
I also got a friend, he's a designer, and works with photoshop etc, and colors are very important to him.
I also told him about this issue, he said it happens more with screen, and it is seen as normal for these screens where it appears with.
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He does have a point normally a screen comes in warm,cool and neutral depending on the factory calibration. These things can be normal as long as the user accepts them to be.
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This is the reason why quality control is so random with samsung, people accepting defects as normal but dont let my expectations be yours as long as your happy with the device thats what is important.
He does have a point normally a screen comes in warm,cool and neutral depending on the factory calibration. These things can be normal as long as the user accepts them to be.
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Clear enough
I'll see what I will do then
Thanks for your great answers!
No problem, Keep us posted on whatever you decide.
I've had four blue Galaxy Notes and one white and they all exhibit varying degrees of tint with some less noticeable than others. Some have a more warmish yellow tint while others are cooler with more of a blue tint. It was the same way on the Galaxy S2. The best you can hope for in getting a replacement is one that has a tint that's less noticeable or if you prefer a cooler tint to the warmer tint.
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I've had four blue Galaxy Notes and one white and they all exhibit varying degrees of tint with some less noticeable than others. Some have a more warmish yellow tint while others are cooler with more of a blue tint. It was the same way on the Galaxy S2. The best you can hope for in getting a replacement is one that has a tint that's less noticeable or if you prefer a cooler tint to the warmer tint.
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Yea well, I will live with it for now, because I love it too much to loose it, hehe.
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I got my first nexus 7 on Tuesday, but there was something stuck under the screen. So I ordered a new one and it got here today. The first thing I noticed is that the screen color on each screen were different. My old one had pure whites, like it should, now my new one has a weird tint to it, making the whites look crappy and un-natural. Has anyone else noticed it? And does anyone know if it is possible to change the screen color?
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The first thing I noticed is that the screen color on each screen were different. My old one had pure whites, like it should, now my new one has a weird tint to it, making the whites look crappy and un-natural. Has anyone else noticed it?
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I don't have Nexus 7 yet, but I have the same experience with my Samsung Galaxy W. I am very satisfied with my SGW display, it has pure whites without any tint. I must say that it is my best LCD on mobile device so far. But I was shocked when I saw another SGW of my colleague. His display has very yellowish tint and both displays side to side look like they are from different phones. What is strange, for him both looks like the same, so he is happy with his display as I am with mine.
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And does anyone know if it is possible to change the screen color?
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I don't think so. If you aren't satisfied with it, change it again, because primarily the display quality makes the Tablet just ordinary or exceptional or lemon.
I've read about phones having screens from 2 different manufacturers before as well. Not saying the N7 is like that, but it is possible.
I am a prospective buyer of the Moto X and have my heart set on this phone. However, after using a friend's piece for a while today, I have concerns about the display.
I found the AMOLED display did not render the grays very nicely. They we very reddish brown in my opinion. I understand this is an AMOLED problem, but the X is supposed to have one of the best AMOLEDs out there.
Is this a problem generally in the X or was that perhaps a problem with that particular piece? Is this problem solvable via software?
Thanks!
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I am a prospective buyer of the Moto X and have my heart set on this phone. However, after using a friend's piece for a while today, I have concerns about the display.
I found the AMOLED display did not render the grays very nicely. They we very reddish brown in my opinion. I understand this is an AMOLED problem, but the X is supposed to have one of the best AMOLEDs out there.
Is this a problem generally in the X or was that perhaps a problem with that particular piece? Is this problem solvable via software?
Thanks!
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It's most likely your friends piece.. No reddish brownish grey colors here.
XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
It's most likely your friends piece.. No reddish brownish grey colors here.
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so the grey's look grey? for example the news/forum/wiki bar near the top of this site? or the quoted text in this post?
rebeleagle said:
so the grey's look grey? for example the news/forum/wiki bar near the top of this site?
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Dude. I think I see what you're talking about. Comparing to my dad's note 3, his is more grey and mine looks brownish grey. I've never notice that..
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Dude. I think I see what you're talking about. Comparing to my dad's note 3, his is more grey and mine looks brownish grey. I've never notice that..
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Sorry Bro
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Sorry Bro
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I mean the greys are a bit harder to distinguish on his phone but I see the reddish brownish like greys on mine. *sad face*.. He's still jealous over my phone so I still win lol. The note 3 has a larger display and higher ppi so there are going to be differences.
Strange I don't see reddish brown s in mine , the shades of grey I find better than on my sons s4 active.
I've noticed that the greys gets brownish when the display is set to the lowest brightness
Browning and reddish, yep. It doesn't really bother me. My pictures look nice and i can't tell the difference from another screen. I think this is more noticeable in the system UI. Everything else is just fine.
Grey looks grey on my device. I've compared it to about 20 different devices I own (all with different display types) and I haven't noticed any different beyond greys being a tad darker on AMOLEDs, which isn't surprising.
The only time I found there to be an exception was when I set the brightness to 25% or less and held it up to my (far brighter) LED TV. There's an extremely subtle yellowish tint to it that I only see in this case. Immediately moving it away from my TV it looks perfectly fine again.
Long story short: You should be ok, and I wouldn't consider it a reason to not pick up the phone. Even if it were an issue, the device's pros far outweigh that minor detail. Plus you'd likely get used to it over time. Personally I think the screen looks incredible, better than on most other devices I've used.
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My screen doesn't look truly black even when the phone is completely powered off. Noticable contrast from the black bezels. Annoying. Is this just how they are? My last several AMOLED screens have been much more true black.
mdmogren said:
My screen doesn't look truly black even when the phone is completely powered off. Noticable contrast from the black bezels. Annoying. Is this just how they are? My last several AMOLED screens have been much more true black.
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When screens are completely off, the slightly grey dielectric layer is more noticeable. With current technology that layer is never going to be "true black."
The pixel 2 uses a Samsung display, this is the blackest you'll see.
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When screens are completely off, the slightly grey dielectric layer is more noticeable. With current technology that layer is never going to be "true black."
The pixel 2 uses a Samsung display, this is the blackest you'll see.
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On or off, this screen jumps out to me as basically appearing backlit like an LCD, especially from an angle. I have had nothing but oled since 2012 and haven't noticed this on previous phones.
because they were so cheap and decided not to darken it. cheap move.
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because they were so cheap and decided not to darken it. cheap move.
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uhhh, source please? I've owned a several flagship/midranger LG, Moto and Samsung phones in the past several years and I have never seen a phone where the dielectric layer on OLED displays is pure black.
Regardless this topic is mostly subjective, I can't find any information about display manufactures darkening their dielectric layer.
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uhhh, source please? I've owned a several flagship/midranger LG, Moto and Samsung phones in the past several years and I have never seen a phone where the dielectric layer on OLED displays is pure black.
Regardless this topic is mostly subjective, I can't find any information about display manufactures darkening their dielectric layer.
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look at galaxy s8 and v30.
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look at galaxy s8 and v30.
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like I said...it is subjective. Unless you can show proof or any article written specifically about what you are talking about. The Pixel 2 display is a Samsung made OLED.
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like I said...it is subjective. Unless you can show proof or any article written specifically about what you are talking about. The Pixel 2 display is a Samsung made OLED.
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I think being of the same black colour as the body around the screen gives you a feel that its pure black... Also, the absence of light makes a difference too, with no screen borders visible unlike other LCD phones..
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