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The truth about the screen

Hi, i have tested my nexus and other of a friend.
The screen is the same, the only thing is that it seems that there are two different calibrations.
I opened display tester on both phones, and what a surprise, all the colors are exactly the same except the white, and grey.
My phone have warm white and my friend´s phone have cold whites, but the other colours look exactly the same.
So this is the only difference between the screens of some nexus, the white colour calibration.
Hope this clarifies the things

jlmcr87 said:
Hi, i have tested my nexus and other of a friend.
The screen is the same, the only thing is that it seems that there are two different calibrations.
I opened display tester on both phones, and what a surprise, all the colors are exactly the same except the white, and grey.
My phone have warm white and my friend´s phone have cold whites, but the other colours look exactly the same.
So this is the only difference between the screens of some nexus, the white colour calibration.
Hope this clarifies the things
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Interesting. I saw some posts where they were saying there were two screen manufacturers. Maybe that's why?

666fff said:
Interesting. I saw some posts where they were saying there were two screen manufacturers. Maybe that's why?
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There is only for the nexus 5 as i say you. Only white and grey look different in display tester. The other colours are exaclty the same in both screens

666fff said:
Interesting. I saw some posts where they were saying there were two screen manufacturers. Maybe that's why?
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Unlikely, they'll all be made by LG Display. Probably come from different factories though.

Do all the screens have the off angle glow, especially diagonal? Both of the nexus 5's I have seen in person had it, but the nexus 7 2013 does not and has much better contrast as well.

[Q] AMOLED grays - Prospective Buyer

I am a prospective buyer of the Moto X and have my heart set on this phone. However, after using a friend's piece for a while today, I have concerns about the display.
I found the AMOLED display did not render the grays very nicely. They we very reddish brown in my opinion. I understand this is an AMOLED problem, but the X is supposed to have one of the best AMOLEDs out there.
Is this a problem generally in the X or was that perhaps a problem with that particular piece? Is this problem solvable via software?
Thanks!

rebeleagle said:
I am a prospective buyer of the Moto X and have my heart set on this phone. However, after using a friend's piece for a while today, I have concerns about the display.
I found the AMOLED display did not render the grays very nicely. They we very reddish brown in my opinion. I understand this is an AMOLED problem, but the X is supposed to have one of the best AMOLEDs out there.
Is this a problem generally in the X or was that perhaps a problem with that particular piece? Is this problem solvable via software?
Thanks!
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It's most likely your friends piece.. No reddish brownish grey colors here.

XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
It's most likely your friends piece.. No reddish brownish grey colors here.
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so the grey's look grey? for example the news/forum/wiki bar near the top of this site? or the quoted text in this post?

rebeleagle said:
so the grey's look grey? for example the news/forum/wiki bar near the top of this site?
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Dude. I think I see what you're talking about. Comparing to my dad's note 3, his is more grey and mine looks brownish grey. I've never notice that..

XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
Dude. I think I see what you're talking about. Comparing to my dad's note 3, his is more grey and mine looks brownish grey. I've never notice that..
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Sorry Bro

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Sorry Bro
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I mean the greys are a bit harder to distinguish on his phone but I see the reddish brownish like greys on mine. *sad face*.. He's still jealous over my phone so I still win lol. The note 3 has a larger display and higher ppi so there are going to be differences.

Strange I don't see reddish brown s in mine , the shades of grey I find better than on my sons s4 active.

I've noticed that the greys gets brownish when the display is set to the lowest brightness

Browning and reddish, yep. It doesn't really bother me. My pictures look nice and i can't tell the difference from another screen. I think this is more noticeable in the system UI. Everything else is just fine.

Grey looks grey on my device. I've compared it to about 20 different devices I own (all with different display types) and I haven't noticed any different beyond greys being a tad darker on AMOLEDs, which isn't surprising.
The only time I found there to be an exception was when I set the brightness to 25% or less and held it up to my (far brighter) LED TV. There's an extremely subtle yellowish tint to it that I only see in this case. Immediately moving it away from my TV it looks perfectly fine again.
Long story short: You should be ok, and I wouldn't consider it a reason to not pick up the phone. Even if it were an issue, the device's pros far outweigh that minor detail. Plus you'd likely get used to it over time. Personally I think the screen looks incredible, better than on most other devices I've used.

Brown Screen?

So I received my 2nd Gen Moto X last Friday. I upgraded from a 1st Gen Moto X which I absolutely love. One of the weird things that I've noticed between the two phones, is the color of the screen when it's off.
The screen on my 1st gen looks almost completely black, but the screen on the 2nd gen has a dark brown tint to it.
I've noticed this when both screens are off and I have them laying next to each other under identical lighting conditions.
Has anyone else noticed this on their phone, or have some type of explanation as to why the screen looks a dark brown instead of a dark black?
Thanks!

hacku said:
So I received my 2nd Gen Moto X last Friday. I upgraded from a 1st Gen Moto X which I absolutely love. One of the weird things that I've noticed between the two phones, is the color of the screen when it's off.
The screen on my 1st gen looks almost completely black, but the screen on the 2nd gen has a dark brown tint to it.
I've noticed this when both screens are off and I have them laying next to each other under identical lighting conditions.
Has anyone else noticed this on their phone, or have some type of explanation as to why the screen looks a dark brown instead of a dark black?
Thanks!
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yea, the screen is not fully black when off for some reason.

edwardgtxy said:
yea, the screen is not fully black when off for some reason.
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More pixels. Look at a galaxy s5 (another 1080p amoled). No amoled screen looks completely black in certain light. My s2 looked blue, nexus s looked like a rainbow.

qwerty12601 said:
More pixels. Look at a galaxy s5 (another 1080p amoled). No amoled screen looks completely black in certain light. My s2 looked blue, nexus s looked like a rainbow.
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I'm curious if you know why having more pixels changes the color of the screen when it's not on.

qwerty12601 said:
More pixels. Look at a galaxy s5 (another 1080p amoled). No amoled screen looks completely black in certain light. My s2 looked blue, nexus s looked like a rainbow.
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using s5, s5 screen is totaly black equals to 0, if you see it in dark room or mid night without any light, you will found screen is not working but in reality its true black thats my fav part, its new amoled technology, unlike moto using oldest tech..

My blacks are... black? lol.
There is sometimes a slight yellow tint on pure white depending on the viewing angle, but I chalk that up to AMOLED and the price to pay for true black.

Mandeep148 said:
using s5, s5 screen is totaly black equals to 0, if you see it in dark room or mid night without any light, you will found screen is not working but in reality its true black thats my fav part, its new amoled technology, unlike moto using oldest tech..
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That's not what were talking about. And just for reference, the moto x is exactly the same.
He's talking about with the screen off. At the right angle there's a brown tint. After looking at it further, turning the phone the tint turns to blue like all the other amoled panels. It just has something to do with the pixel layout.

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That's not what were talking about. And just for reference, the moto x is exactly the same.
He's talking about with the screen off. At the right angle there's a brown tint. After looking at it further, turning the phone the tint turns to blue like all the other amoled panels. It just has something to do with the pixel layout.
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oh gotcha, yea you are absolutely right.. every amoled is same

Mandeep148 said:
oh gotcha, yea you are absolutely right.. every amoled is same
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Not true, my 1st gen Moto X which also has an AMOLED display is completely black when the screen is off, no matter which way you look at it. Hell, even my old Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a Super AMOLED display is completely black.
I'm wondering now if there's something wrong with the display or what. I'll have to find a couple of other Moto X's to compare them I guess.

hacku said:
Not true, my 1st gen Moto X which also has an AMOLED display is completely black when the screen is off, no matter which way you look at it. Hell, even my old Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a Super AMOLED display is completely black.
I'm wondering now if there's something wrong with the display or what. I'll have to find a couple of other Moto X's to compare them I guess.
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i know the reason, previous moto phones had black tint on glass on screen, means glass is black, but in s5 and other phones have no tint on glass thats why it looks brown and more bright..

Mandeep148 said:
i know the reason, previous moto phones had black tint on glass on screen, means glass is black, but in s5 and other phones have no tint on glass thats why it looks brown and more bright..
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I'm not buying it. The black tint would have to be pretty dark to get rid of the brown, which would also make all the colors really dull on the screen.

I'm just not sure why it matters what color the screen is when its off? Don't you usually use it when the screen is on ?

kvillafana said:
I'm just not sure why it matters what color the screen is when its off? Don't you usually use it when the screen is on ?
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Mainly I just want to check to see if everyone's screen is like this (brown tint), or if it's just a few because there was a bad batch of screens or something.

hacku said:
Mainly I just want to check to see if everyone's screen is like this (brown tint), or if it's just a few because there was a bad batch of screens or something.
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Mine is like that when I look at it at a sharp angle in the light when the screen is off. It's simply just the type of screen, it is not a defect.
kvillafana said:
I'm just not sure why it matters what color the screen is when its off? Don't you usually use it when the screen is on ?
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I don't think you're using this phone right. Most of the functionality that makes this phone awesome is that I use it a lot when the screen is off

i have one question, i used s3 s4 and s5,
s3 display black level was deeper but not true black like no pixel is working, like on s4 and s5 which have perfect black with 0 opacity, (im not talking about off display)
is the display which is in moto x 2014 and in nexus are also good, they have perfect black or like s3 ?

Mandeep148 said:
i have one question, i used s3 s4 and s5,
s3 display black level was deeper but not true black like no pixel is working, like on s4 and s5 which have perfect black with 0 opacity, (im not talking about off display)
is the display which is in moto x 2014 and in nexus are also good, they have perfect black or like s3 ?
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Lol they're all deep black. My first amoled was the nexus s, then galaxy s2 . the pixels shut off, its as black as can be. Maybe because of the resolution you'd notice some color fade from illuminated pixels, but the black ones were off.

I was looking around for this info and this thread was the only thing I could find about this observation. Even though I don't have the Moto X, I've noticed this on other phones, specially with amoled screens. There's a difference between screens on the same phones when they are turned off, you can notice it under direct light. Side by side, for any reason the black phones tend to have a brown tint and the white phones are completely dark. I only notice this when displays are turned off. I'm comparing two sets of identical phones, just different bezel colors. I don't think this is an issue at all, It's just an observation, however they look the same when they are on.

Visible pixels

Just noticed that I can visibly see the LED pixels on the screen.. Anyone else have this happen after having the phone for a bit?

It's 493ppi so seeing 1 OLED pixel seems out there even for most people. I have 20/10 vision correct with contacts and I can't see them even if I try. Maybe if I had a dead pixel I could see it, but normally I can't see anything.

My display looks like Christmas tinsel

born_fisherman said:
My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.

Pilz said:
Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.

born_fisherman said:
I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I didn't have that issue on my first Nexus 6 but I did have a camera issue. My second one is excellent no issues so far. I had my first one for 7 weeks before I had to RMA it.

I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.

TheAmazingDave said:
I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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That's how it is when I use Mt wife's S5 it's almost annoying because I can see them sometimes when I didn't used to. That started after having my G3 for the past 7 months

So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?

born_fisherman said:
So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Yes that's correct.

born_fisherman said:
So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.

obsanity said:
Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?

born_fisherman said:
My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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So are you talking about seeing pixels when the screen is on or when the screen is off?
The die of the pixel arrangement will be visible under certain angle in just the right light when the screen is off.
Also, screen protectors can cause this to be amplified for sure. It all depends on the quality of that screen protector.

This characteristic is just one of those things you have to put up with when you're dealing with resolution cheating samsung crappy pentile amoled displays. I was hoping that the QHD would be enough to overcome the pentile, but that doesn't seem to be entirely the case for some.
At least (if tmo ever decides to actually ship it) it won't be as bad as my last cheating samsung amoled... a 4" 800x480.
I figured going into this, that the display would be pretty crappy. Too big, and amoled pentile... but after suffering with non-nexus devices for a few years (last one was a "nexus zero" -- ADP1...), I just don't feel like fighting with the thing, so fact of being a nexus > crappy display.

Clarity/resolution

The OnePlus 5T has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.

sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
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Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.

benjmiester said:
Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
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If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.

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If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
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Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.

Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display

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Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
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No worries?
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v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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What I can tell you is that the display is perfect. No discoloration or hues on tilting the screen, brightness is uniform only thing is the display looks a bit...really a bit more reflective than the note 4 display but then it could be because of the screen guard thats pretty applied. Other than that nit picking the display is amazig.

v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display

v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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I went through 3 different pixel 2 XLs (for various defects) before setting on the OP5T; all 3 pixels had significant uniformity problems with the top being brighter than the bottom. Also very grainy. Can't find anything wrong with the display on the 5T.

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Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.

harpin14789 said:
Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
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Not sure. Plenty of pink tints etc on Samsung panels. But the Samsung ones are a lot better anyway.

I had 2k screens (G3, S7e and Pixel XL) for 3 years and while I can squint and see that the 5T is a lower resolution, it looks the same when you use it normally.
I was a little concerned about this, but was relieved when I got the phone and the screen was very nice and crisp.
I would like to admit to being quite picky about resolution and used to change it on my G3 to get better battery life but couldn't stand it being slightly "blurry" because it was no longer 1:1, pixel for pixel. Most people don't notice this but it did! (Not that the text looks blurry on the 5T because it is 1:1 at 1080p.)

sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
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Hey, i just switched too from the Note 4 to too! Before buying i was sceptical too due to the 1080p screen, so i went to the stores and had a look at the mate 10 pro, wich also has a 1080p 6" screen and i couldn't see any difference, so i ordered the OP5T. I am very happy with the screen! Can't see any difference in normal use aswell. Plus it has a much whiter white than my Note 4.

Coming from the 2K screen on the Nexus 6P to the OnePlus 5 had me a little skittish, but it wasn't a significant enough change to warrant returning it. The 5T's OLED panel takes things to another level with its brightness/darkness levels and battery life impact. I thoroughly love it, and went as far as to drop my font size to the lowest possible to give me the faux-highres feel.

Currently my oneplus 3 screen uniformity is rubbish. It's especially noticeable on white band even more so on grey backgrounds with a very noticeable yellow tint towards the top left of the screen. It's pretty gross.
I know it's a bit of a "lottery" with OLED screens but can I expect a better overall experience coming from the OP3?

Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....

Colday96 said:
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
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Sadly it costs to much and has no headphone jack and has not much development.
now back to topic: the screen looks fine nearly the same as on my op3 but thats okay it was a very good screeen.

I've from a QHD Super Amoled display from my Note 5 to this phone. Unless you're gonna use a magnifying glass to pin point pixels, you're gonna find both both displays are excellent. I am extremely happy with the display with my 5t.

Screen looks awesome to me. With any oled screen it's a lottery how uniform it will be.

The screen looks fantastic to me... no noticeable difference from a 2k one.
The phone does not support VR so it would have been only a useless battery draining feature.