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Hi everyone,
For months I am eagerly waiting for the Xperia V to be released in France (it will be this week, with JB on board). But this morning I found a review from a quite serious blog (in French) and it sort of discouraged me :
- They had major 3G connectivity issues, which is a huge turn-off for me
- They say the screen is not that great after all (too yellow-ish, despite BRAVIAEngine 2)
- They found lots of non-uninstallable bloatware (Adobe Reader, McAfee, some games, etc.)
- They found lots of bugs (camera focus, SOD when using GPS and music player), despite the JB ROM !
Now I'm wavering :
- Is this Xperia V a good choice ? From what I can read on XDA forums, owners of this V seem happy with their choice, but for example, has someone experienced any 3G connectivity issues since the JB upgrade ? Are the other bugs really annoying ?
- I was planning to wait a few months before getting rid of Sony software and get CyanogenMod on this Xperia V ; now that I see the bugs I want to get CM as soon as possible, but is it safe to avoid the warranty of a smartphone right after spending €500 for it ?
- In a nutshell : is the Xperia V a good choice ? (I want a phone that runs JB smoothly on a minimum-300dpi screen, with a micro-SD slot, a removable battery, LTE-compliant, and that I can handle with one of my small hands )
Thanks to anyone who can help me decide whether to buy it or not...
David Guillot said:
Hi everyone,
For months I am eagerly waiting for the Xperia V to be released in France (it will be this week, with JB on board). But this morning I found a review from a quite serious blog (in French) and it sort of discouraged me :
- They had major 3G connectivity issues, which is a huge turn-off for me
- They say the screen is not that great after all (too yellow-ish, despite BRAVIAEngine 2)
- They found lots of non-uninstallable bloatware (Adobe Reader, McAfee, some games, etc.)
- They found lots of bugs (camera focus, SOD when using GPS and music player), despite the JB ROM !
Now I'm wavering :
- Is this Xperia V a good choice ? From what I can read on XDA forums, owners of this V seem happy with their choice, but for example, has someone experienced any 3G connectivity issues since the JB upgrade ? Are the other bugs really annoying ?
- I was planning to wait a few months before getting rid of Sony software and get CyanogenMod on this Xperia V ; now that I see the bugs I want to get CM as soon as possible, but is it safe to avoid the warranty of a smartphone right after spending €500 for it ?
- In a nutshell : is the Xperia V a good choice ? (I want a phone that runs JB smoothly on a minimum-300dpi screen, with a micro-SD slot, a removable battery, LTE-compliant, and that I can handle with one of my small hands )
Thanks to anyone who can help me decide whether to buy it or not...
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The points you list at the end overlap quite a bit with my criteria for picking the V, and I don't regret it at all. I was hoping Sony would push this model more than they have and that it would get strong sales so that "smaller" phones might not end up in a low-spec ghetto. Anyway, to address your points:
- The 3G connectivity issues may very well have to do with the network settings being set by default to connect to LTE. I had major issues until I changed the settings (my contract doesn't include LTE). Since then, no problems. If the review unit had this setting on, that's probably what happened.
- The display quality seems ok to me. This isn't honestly that huge a thing for me, so maybe somebody else has a stronger opinion on it than I do.
- There's no such thing as "uninstallable" . There is a (somewhat complicated) method for rooting the V without unlocking the bootloader, so as not to void your warranty. I didn't have any of the bloatware that you listed on mine, so it must be carrier-added bloat. I'm new to Xperia and I unlocked mine after about a week, so I may be wrong about this, but I think you can flash .ftf's with a locked bootloader, and just use a generic version of the firmware and voilà - no more bloat!
- I've never had a SOD. The only bug I've dealt with since upgrading to JB is long pauses between tracks when using the Walkman app. Admittedly a pretty big deal for me, I can only hope that since "Walkman" is pretty much synonymous with "Sony", they'll get this one sorted sooner rather than later.
Satisfied with everything except for the battery consumption while on data. Came from Galaxy Nexus. I leave data on for the whole day with my Nexus and it lasts. With this Xperia V, i turn off the data and switch to GSM when not in use.
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Carriers are well-known to add in lots of bloatwares. Nothing to do with the phone. But currently there's no working version of CM10.1 (JB 4.2.x), though.
The FreeXperiaProject are on it, albeit not high in their priority list.
Those who tested the current testing version of CM10.1 reported that the ROM is too damn smooth. xD
So for us to have a working version of CM10.1, it will take some time...
Disclaimer: I don't personally own a V, but a T instead.
- Among all the phones I have used, I personally haven't ran into any phone with connectivity issue. Most of the times, it's due to either telco bad signals or half-baked ported roms (i.e. CM10.1), which is probably the less of your concern. However, I heard that V was equipped with 4G (whereas T was not), so you might want to explore this more.
- V screen is far superior compared to T (and maybe Z as well), according to comparison videos and videos I have seen so far. I'd love to have the V display screen.
- From what I saw, V and T shared the same bloatwares. Most of the bloatwares on T are Sony media connection utilities, which are not that annoying. EA Games, OfficeSuite and other stuff I don't really use can be deleted. Coming from a Nexus, I'm surprised that bloatwares did not annoy me at all.
- T suffers from a Walkman bug, that's all. I'm not sure about V.
Yes, you should buy it. It's the only phone with 720p resolution and ergonomic screen size, yet maintain a decent performance, and better yet, an SDCard slot.
David Guillot said:
Hi everyone,
For months I am eagerly waiting for the Xperia V to be released in France (it will be this week, with JB on board). But this morning I found a review from a quite serious blog (in French) and it sort of discouraged me :
- They had major 3G connectivity issues, which is a huge turn-off for me
- They say the screen is not that great after all (too yellow-ish, despite BRAVIAEngine 2)
- They found lots of non-uninstallable bloatware (Adobe Reader, McAfee, some games, etc.)
- They found lots of bugs (camera focus, SOD when using GPS and music player), despite the JB ROM !
Now I'm wavering :
- Is this Xperia V a good choice ? From what I can read on XDA forums, owners of this V seem happy with their choice, but for example, has someone experienced any 3G connectivity issues since the JB upgrade ? Are the other bugs really annoying ?
- I was planning to wait a few months before getting rid of Sony software and get CyanogenMod on this Xperia V ; now that I see the bugs I want to get CM as soon as possible, but is it safe to avoid the warranty of a smartphone right after spending €500 for it ?
- In a nutshell : is the Xperia V a good choice ? (I want a phone that runs JB smoothly on a minimum-300dpi screen, with a micro-SD slot, a removable battery, LTE-compliant, and that I can handle with one of my small hands )
Thanks to anyone who can help me decide whether to buy it or not...
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Personally I love my Xperia V, there is no phone I would have rather bought. Well maybe Z. It just feels awesome in my hands, looks awesome, is really snappy, the camera is a beast in my opinion and the waterproofig is a plus too.
There are some disadvantages of course, the main one being the lack of developers. I know, I shouldn't "whine" about it, they do it for free and because they want to and I should start deving my self if I'm not satisfied. But I won't. Coming from HTC Desire I was a bit disappointed (shouldn't use that word) to see the lack of roms and mods etc. The battery is a bit too small too, I thought that smartphones would last longer nowadays, but nah, it's a minor upgrade to HTC Desire for example.
Another problem is that my phone seemed a bit bugged right out of the box, orientation sensor would sometimes get stuck and not rotate the screen. I took it to Sony care, let's see what they can do about it. Probably nothing, since the it happens very randomly.
vokkE said:
...Coming from HTC Desire I was a bit disappointed (shouldn't use that word) to see the lack of roms and mods etc. The battery is a bit too small too, I thought that smartphones would last longer nowadays, but nah, it's a minor upgrade to HTC Desire...
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I loved my old HTC Desire. What a great phone it was.
I'm hoping to buy an Xperia V this weekend, too. I'm worried about battery life; has anyone bought an extended one?
I'm using an Xperia V, and I have rooted, added cwm, debloat the wares, still locked bootloader.
I heard that V have two kinds of screen too. And my screen's black color is truly black, not gray like T .
I've tested a film on my phone and my laptop, I just have to say that BE2 is great, it enhances the colors on the film, which is very nice, I've made a comparison with my friend's Xperia T, the BE2 sometimes enhances the colors too much which makes it a little bit unreal, but to tell the truth, most of the time, it makes u feel that the image is greater than the original xD
I'm from Vietnam, we only have 3G. But the connection speed is great, it doesn't take me long to download apps from Play Store . I think it may depends on your signal and the network provider speed . Cuz it depends in my country, if you have full signal, you will got speed around 6-7.2 mbps, but I usually got around 3-5mbps .
About Sony apps, Walkman has some bugs with playing, soon it will be fixed. SoD appears suddenly, I don't know if it just with GPS ). But this is a serious problem, it will be fixed soon either. And about the camera, I myself love the main camera with it's great speed of shoot, but the front camera sucks :|, I love the front camera of Xperia S more
One little thing I want to say that I love the water proof of this phone ). My friends' iPhone can't do that, and that's the way I troll them with my Xperia :laugh:
Thank you all for your feedbacks, just bought my Xperia V this morning for €429 (great deal on Sony France e-shop, due to the loooong wait) !
I'll receive it next week, will root it as soon as possible to get rid of bloatware, change the networking settings since my contract isn't 4G, and wait for CM 10.1
I'm eagerly waiting for Xperia SP, or should I buy this Xperia V?
Plus of Xperia V : water/dust resistant, 13 MP camera
Plus of Xperia SP : bigger screen and battery capacity, higher CPU and GPU
Any suggestions?
mewtwo68d said:
I'm eagerly waiting for Xperia SP, or should I buy this Xperia V?
Plus of Xperia V : water/dust resistant, 13 MP camera
Plus of Xperia SP : bigger screen and battery capacity, higher CPU and GPU
Any suggestions?
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Buy the SP. The V's flaps will soon fall out. Mine is already sticking out. If you want a waterproof one get the Z as they use a different and stronger material for their flaps. However if you're on a budget get the SP. It's high CPU ans GPU makes up for not having waterproof.
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There are two things I hate about the Xperia V: 1) Disappointing battery performance on data connection (WiFi is significantly better), 2) Lack of development.
Came from a Galaxy Nexus.
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blackcat510 said:
And about the camera, I myself love the main camera with it's great speed of shoot, but the front camera sucks :|, I love the front camera of Xperia S more
One little thing I want to say that I love the water proof of this phone ). My friends' iPhone can't do that, and that's the way I troll them with my Xperia :laugh:
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how is the front camera compare to the iphone 4s front camera ? is it worst or kind of the same? and i guess the main camera it's much better than the main camera of the iphone 4S... right?
and i bit off topic does it have usb otg ? and what about the hdmi have you tried it?
PS: im going crazy trying to decide which phone to buy :silly: (i own a 4S right now )
sdam87 said:
how is the front camera compare to the iphone 4s front camera ? is it worst or kind of the same? and i guess the main camera it's much better than the main camera of the iphone 4S... right?
and i bit off topic does it have usb otg ? and what about the hdmi have you tried it?
PS: im going crazy trying to decide which phone to buy :silly: (i own a 4S right now )
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Buy the Xperia SL
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xperia v
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Buy the Xperia SL
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i thought about it but missing sd card, no water resistant and the old s3 snap dragon processor, made me look for another device :\
sdam87 said:
i thought about it but missing sd card, no water resistant and the old s3 snap dragon processor, made me look for another device :\
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The LED strip and GPU is good. I mean it has an old processor but it's 1.7Ghz Dual Core. It's fine for me. It's also faster than the V. I have the V and overtime you'll lose water resistance as the flaps will fall off. Mine is already sticking out.
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The V's flaps will soon fall out. Mine is already sticking out.
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How long did it take for the flaps to fall out ? I have mine for 3 weeks now and despite the fact that they feel a bit fragile, I think if I take care of them they will hold on...
I am really fond of my V, it feels great in the hand, it is quite smooth, the battery life is acceptable, the camera is pretty good, and I dropped a pint of beer on it without any damage !
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The LED strip and GPU is good. I mean it has an old processor but it's 1.7Ghz Dual Core. It's fine for me. It's also faster than the V. I have the V and overtime you'll lose water resistance as the flaps will fall off. Mine is already sticking out.
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Ummm no. The SL is NOT faster than the V either CPU or GPU wise.
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Hi,
I have spent a week studying the descriptions of the available Xperia phones. I have a hard time understanding which one will be the best one for me, though SP seems promising... Is anyone willing to help?
In the past I have had Xperia X10i and Xperia S. These are my priorities:
* Huge phone not needed - maximum 4,3 or perhaps 4,6 inches
* Waterproof, dust proof etc not needed
* Nice camera required. I never carry a normal camera any longer - still, I don't need 8+ megapixels, image quality is more important - but video is not important. (Xperia S photos seemed poorer than I wish for)
* Heavy user - good battery life needed. (With Xperia S, I often had to restrict my use, for the phone to survive the day.)
* Good CPU/memory needed - I sometimes run GPS tracking, music, social media simultaneously, I don't want any of my apps to shut down due to low capacity.
* I wish to have the latest Android versions without rooting my phone - will prefer a device that Sony will keep updating longer.
* Price is not overly important, but I don't wish to play a lot extra for a too larger and waterproof phone, if there are cheaper alternatives.
* Design is important (but personal)... I prefer a white model, clean design, hate Samsung rounded corners and plastic feel (sorry)...
Does the SP seem right? Or are any of the other Xperia models more suitable? Will be very thankful for any recommendations!
The only flaws with the Xperia sp are that the camera is worse then the S ( I too had a s and a x10)
Battery life is good, two days with moderate usage.
Design, well I find the sp sexy ( i have black)
Performance is good and smooth. No problems running heavy games. Multitasking is ok.
Price: its cheap.
Its running on android 4.1 dont know about future updates
Good luck picking your phone.
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Li-polymers said:
The only flaws with the Xperia sp are that the camera is worse then the S ( I too had a s and a x10)
Battery life is good, two days with moderate usage.
Design, well I find the sp sexy ( i have black)
Performance is good and smooth. No problems running heavy games. Multitasking is ok.
Price: its cheap.
Its running on android 4.1 dont know about future updates
Good luck picking your phone.
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I noticed different things..
The battery life is nothing special, not good, not bad. But for sure, there are other devices with better battery life in the same price range.
The camera is (unfortunately) pretty bad! Also note, that many users got problems with their wifi connection. The range of wifi is horrible and there is no official fix by Sony.
The performance is very nice and smooth, same like the design.
Well, its your choice, I would prefer another device.
I'm disappointed to hear about the poor camera. May I ask which other devices you might recommend - similar specifications, but better camera?
murmeljenta said:
I'm disappointed to hear about the poor camera. May I ask which other devices you might recommend - similar specifications, but better camera?
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I heard many good things about the LG Optimus G E975.
murmeljenta said:
Hi,
I have spent a week studying the descriptions of the available Xperia phones. I have a hard time understanding which one will be the best one for me, though SP seems promising... Is anyone willing to help?
In the past I have had Xperia X10i and Xperia S. These are my priorities:
* Huge phone not needed - maximum 4,3 or perhaps 4,6 inches
* Waterproof, dust proof etc not needed
* Nice camera required. I never carry a normal camera any longer - still, I don't need 8+ megapixels, image quality is more important - but video is not important. (Xperia S photos seemed poorer than I wish for)
* Heavy user - good battery life needed. (With Xperia S, I often had to restrict my use, for the phone to survive the day.)
* Good CPU/memory needed - I sometimes run GPS tracking, music, social media simultaneously, I don't want any of my apps to shut down due to low capacity.
* I wish to have the latest Android versions without rooting my phone - will prefer a device that Sony will keep updating longer.
* Price is not overly important, but I don't wish to play a lot extra for a too larger and waterproof phone, if there are cheaper alternatives.
* Design is important (but personal)... I prefer a white model, clean design, hate Samsung rounded corners and plastic feel (sorry)...
Does the SP seem right? Or are any of the other Xperia models more suitable? Will be very thankful for any recommendations!
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The device is though perfect, but some stuff can disappoint you very much :-
- Camera- Camera is not exactly as great as a XPERIA phones should be, though a fix will be officially out in a new firmware.
- Latest Android- This phone surely has a future to go till android 5.0 officially, but that can be too slow, as Sony takes a lot of time for giving the latest available OS
-Good CPU/Memory- This device is perfect for your needs
- Size- The phone has a perfect size to carry in hands or in pocket
- Price- It's a cheap as hell phone looking at it's specs.
- Connectivity- Phone is perfect in every standard in all sections, though a big con here is wifi range "for some wifi disconnects" or maybe you get neither of it, depends.
-Design- This phone is a definite beauty, I own the white model, but, I suggest to go with black, as the chrome finish on the aluminium frame will start fading into black color, even when you connect hands-free, or USB into it.
Few bugs, Touch response while charging is really ridiculous "with charger provided by Sony" I used charger of my old phone XPERIA Neo V and the touch bugs had resolved after it, so definitely there's a defect in charger provided by Sony, I'm confident coz almost everyone here has faced that bug.
A 2nd option instead of XPERIA- Nexus 4 can be a perfect choice as per your needs, though the back glass may break/crack.
-XPERIA ZR, if you're willing to pay 3-4k more go for XPERIA ZR it's definitely perfect for your needs.
I think poor Camera can`t be fixed with firmwareupdate. In my opinion the quality is bad on ExmorRS. It simply lacks the sensor resolution. But very good is the HDR mode, very effective.
For prints in 10X15 but the pictures are quite sufficient. Xperia S photos are showing many more detail for larger prints, but have much less contrast range. So you get a lot of outdoor pictures with any flaring. But this problem solves the XSP perfect.
for battery life, the XSP run at least twice as long as the XS.
take extensive look at the Xperia blahblahblah still shat display and make sure you are absolutely completely fine with its white-washedness.
My Battery stats for the full day usage including games, wifi&3g surfing, video playback etc
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I am looking after an new device for playing around with (ROM / Kernel flashing) and the Xperia T / V caught my attention pretty well. But.. Which one should I get? What is the differences except screen and the SoC?
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Destroyedbeauty said:
I am looking after an new device for playing around with (ROM / Kernel flashing) and the Xperia T / V caught my attention pretty well. But.. Which one should I get? What is the differences except screen and the SoC?
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Xperia T has the biggher Screen (4,55 inch) vs 4,3 on Xperia V. Xperia V is water resistant. idk which one is better. I got the T and I'm happy with it. Roms for both are more or less the same
if you prefer something "nice" in your hand, and you like it a bit more heavy. you know, the feeling when a real "machine" is sliding in your hand. then take the Xperia T. The screensize-hardwaresize relation is better on the Xperia T. The XV has more device around the screen^^
i have an example for you: The T is the rough, more heavy spade, you know. a thing a man like to hold in his hand, when he work in the garden. good size, good feel.
the V is more a cheap and less heavy spade from the supermarket. it maybe feels too light in the hand. you feel worry about it and its size. (my opinion):silly:
but before i forget, the V is waterproof. so if you like to chat with your gf or bf under shower, better take the Xperia V.
if iam right, the V has changeable battery, if you have a focus on that feature, then you will not be happy with the XT, it has no removable battery. i mean if you have a bit knowledge, then you also can change battery on XT, but not officially.
oh i have one more thing: the xperia T will have official OmniRom support. and we have a supernice Miui v5, based on stock sony rom, with great batterylife.:angel:
dont get me wrong, the Xperia V isnt a bad phone, for me it just cannot compare with the Xperia T.
short answer, hold them, squeeze them, decide then, buy then.
if you liek to flash custom roms, then have an eye on the bootloader unlock allowed: yes or no!
immerblind said:
if you prefer something "nice" in your hand, and you like it a bit more heavy. you know, the feeling when a real "machine" is sliding in your hand. then take the Xperia T. The screensize-hardwaresize relation is better on the Xperia T. The XV has more device around the screen^^
i have an example for you: The T is the rough, more heavy spade, you know. a thing a man like to hold in his hand, when he work in the garden. good size, good feel.
the V is more a cheap and less heavy spade from the supermarket. it maybe feels too light in the hand. you feel worry about it and its size. (my opinion):silly:
but before i forget, the V is waterproof. so if you like to chat with your gf or bf under shower, better take the Xperia V.
if iam right, the V has changeable battery, if you have a focus on that feature, then you will not be happy with the XT, it has no removable battery. i mean if you have a bit knowledge, then you also can change battery on XT, but not officially.
oh i have one more thing: the xperia T will have official OmniRom support. and we have a supernice Miui v5, based on stock sony rom, with great batterylife.:angel:
dont get me wrong, the Xperia V isnt a bad phone, for me it just cannot compare with the Xperia T.
short answer, hold them, squeeze them, decide then, buy then.
if you liek to flash custom roms, then have an eye on the bootloader unlock allowed: yes or no!
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This kind of reply does help a lot. Thank you!
Well, I see that the Xperia T got it into Sweden, even though it was said to be the international model and the Xperia V the Scandinavia / Nordic countries focused one..
1) Which one gives better battery life?
2) Which is best custom ROM / kernel supported?
3) Which one offers the best camera performance?
Destroyedbeauty said:
This kind of reply does help a lot. Thank you!
Well, I see that the Xperia T got it into Sweden, even though it was said to be the international model and the Xperia V the Scandinavia / Nordic countries focused one..
1) Which one gives better battery life?
2) Which is best custom ROM / kernel supported?
3) Which one offers the best camera performance?
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Xperia T has 13 mega pixels and the pictures are pretty good (at least at good light), also I think that T has a little better rom support, but theres no big difference as they're pretty similar. Can't tell about battery life though
St.Jimmy90 said:
Xperia T has 13 mega pixels and the pictures are pretty good (at least at good light), also I think that T has a little better rom support, but theres no big difference as they're pretty similar. Can't tell about battery life though
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Will see which one I am laying my hands on..
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I want to add two points:
1. The removable battery is useful, when I mod my phone and it would hang. With no removable battery I'd need to wait until the battery is completely depleted. Or unscrew the phone. The phone hung already a number of times. Waiting for an empty battery can be up to 50 h.
2. I think the property to withstand water should not be underestimated. No needing to worry about the weather protection, for example when I go out for cycling, on the motorbike. Or taking pictures of my kid when at the pool I don't need to worry dropping into the water. Immersing it into the pool water and watching the screen on is a bit eery first. I personally do not think the USB flap will hold up that test very long, but I do think it still withstand splashes and rain well, even with a "worn" flap.
As the others above said, both are pretty similar, and I personally don't really see the point for Sony having two products in their range which differ so little. It seems not useful to decide on basis of technical specifications. I would entirely decide on basis of your personal preferences in terms of battery flexibility, screen size and water resistance.
peter-k said:
I want to add two points:
1. The removable battery is useful, when I mod my phone and it would hang. With no removable battery I'd need to wait until the battery is completely depleted. Or unscrew the phone. The phone hung already a number of times. Waiting for an empty battery can be up to 50 h.
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ehm, no...thats not true. if you end in freeze or whatever, you can power+volume up some seconds, hard reset.
short: you not need to wait till battery empty, use key-combination...this cannot be a pro argument for XV :angel:
immerblind said:
ehm, no...thats not true. if you end in freeze or whatever, you can power+volume up some seconds, hard reset.
short: you not need to wait till battery empty, use key-combination...this cannot be a pro argument for XV :angel:
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I stand corrected. I did not know this also works on freeze.
Hard reset "boots" you up were to? To a CWM which is hopefully there?
no automatic boot in recovery.
honestly im not sure how it works exactly, because my last freezes/bootloops are some time agoooooo
look, i found the thread for 2012 modells
{RECOVER SOFT-brick}[2012 XPERIA's]Recover ALL 2012 XPERIAs from SOFT-brick
but to come back ontopic:
i would say the XT has more to offer regarding custom roms. at least the XT has the better running custom roms.
we can look forward the newly omnirom, the T will be officially supported
then we have the awesome MIUI v5
we have different themed and tweaked stock based sony roms, a honami rom, and we have AOKP
there are also some Cyaniogenmods, ChameleonOS, PAC (support for that stopped if iam right)
good roms for locked and unlocked bootloaders.
Last time I've checked the T does not have an LTE support. If the gsmarena specifications are correct (http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4958&idPhone2=4899), the T screen supports only 4 finger multitouch and the V - 10. Although I don't know what you'll be doing with 10 fingers on a 4.3" screen . And yes, the battery is removable on the V model.
unicastbg said:
Last time I've checked the T does not have an LTE support. If the gsmarena specifications are correct (http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4958&idPhone2=4899), the T screen supports only 4 finger multitouch and the V - 10. Although I don't know what you'll be doing with 10 fingers on a 4.3" screen . And yes, the battery is removable on the V model.
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The rear cover has a rubber around the battery area for water resistance. It's quite clever.
What I trust lesser are the flaps for the two ports. The one for USB is used on daily basis. A free dock should be supplied with the phone (which actually applies to all this phones with contemporary abysmal battery life, IMO).
peter-k said:
The rear cover has a rubber around the battery area for water resistance. It's quite clever.
What I trust lesser are the flaps for the two ports. The one for USB is used on daily basis. A free dock should be supplied with the phone (which actually applies to all this phones with contemporary abysmal battery life, IMO).
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That's the reason I got the dock from the shop
Apart from that, after 6 months of use those flaps are still waterproof. It's very enjoyable to watch your colleagues' faces while washing the phone
immerblind said:
no automatic boot in recovery.
honestly im not sure how it works exactly, because my last freezes/bootloops are some time agoooooo
look, i found the thread for 2012 modells
{RECOVER SOFT-brick}[2012 XPERIA's]Recover ALL 2012 XPERIAs from SOFT-brick
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I checked. I learned hard reset is when booting up the phone, not when UI is frozen. Therefore: No phone without removable battery for me.
peter-k said:
I checked. I learned hard reset is when booting up the phone, not when UI is frozen. Therefore: No phone without removable battery for me.
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AGAIN. if the UI is freezing OR if you fazing bootloop, you can shutdown the phone with power button+volum up. its a FACT.
No need to wait till battery empty. i not understand how you can think you have to wait till battery is empty. NOT true.
you seem to misread
SOFT RESET = 1 vibration then let go of buttons (hold about 3 seconds); Like hitting REBOOT.
HARD RESET = 3 vibrations then let go (about 10 seconds); Like taking out the battery.
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And as a XT user i can confirm this, i never ever waited till my battery is empty.
The removable battery argument isnt that necessary, like many people in the internet make it. but whatever, personal taste and so on ...
immerblind said:
AGAIN. if the UI is freezing OR if you fazing bootloop, you can shutdown the phone with power button+volum up. its a FACT.
No need to wait till battery empty. i not understand how you can think you have to wait till battery is empty. NOT true.
you seem to misread
smip ...
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I understand it works on a working phone and on a bootlooping phone. But it did not work on my frozen V. Otherwise I would not have needed to take the battery out. But I understand it works on your frozen T. So the case is cleared. :good:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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Do you care about horrible viewing angles? I mean horrible.
As long as they are not worse than in my TFT desktop monitor, I'm fine with that. Are they worse than in Xperia S? Cause those are almost unacceptable.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
I came from Experia Z and truly don't go for a Z model, screen is horrible, camera is horrible "noise!", battery more horrible than N5. Don't do it!. Today I bought a additional battery for my N5 which easy to replace..
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Wait for the Z2
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mnickkk said:
As long as they are not worse than in my TFT desktop monitor, I'm fine with that. Are they worse than in Xperia S? Cause those are almost unacceptable.
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They're worse. The Z2 fixed that though. It also has a much better camera algorithm. The z1 is full of noise.
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Wait for the Z2
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I think Z1 is great
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The only horrible thing is the community, that writes crap about this nice device every time ...
I can tell you (with many hours of testing Z1, G2, S4, etc. that the Z1 is by far the best device out of the top devices at the moment... for sure you will have to know, what you are doing (and seemingly no one here does) ... i'm a photograph and have to say that the camera is brilliant (for a mobile camera) ... you just have to choose manual iso and such things, cause the automatic is (as always at EVERY camera) not the best for all situations ... e.g. if you shoot pics at night, the automatic mode gains the iso to maximum ... this will for sure make you able to shoot pictures that look like at evenig, not at night, but will gain the noise to a max ... if you choose wisely (e.g ISO 400) at night shots and hold the camera still you will get good pictures ...
i may upload a few examples today or tomorrow ..
the display: Yes, it is not such a good viewing angle as on new IPS-Panels or something ... BUT ... do you want everyone in a train e.g. be able to look and read everything on your display? Me not ... It's important to have enough angle to watch videos or look at photos (espacially for me) without getting wrong colors or something ... and THAT is what the Z1 does ...not more, but not less ...
so why is the z1 better than evey other mobile available?!
- it's water resistant (and yes, i testet it half an hour fully under water) ...
- its aluminium frame with saphire glass on both sides (yes it is) gives it a nice finish (im sure you can even let it fall on a stone without braking it, but not tested - it just falls periodically from my table on the carpet - ca 1m - and is still alive )
- the dev community is good
- the battery life is the longest for those cpus and displays
- the camera is awsome
- the display (triluminos) is brilliant with true colors, good contrast, etc ...
- sony delivers good support
- the sound that comes out of this mobile (even with just the headset in the package) is amazingly brilliant - with good earphones it's for sure the best i ever heard (sony has much experience cause of the walkman devices and such things ...)
- it comes out of the box with very cool features such as the stamina mode (wich works brilliant - no need for any other battery apps or task killers) or the ability to bind an DualShock-Controller to the mobile for gaming e.g. ... and much more ...
so enough said .. haters will allways hate ... but i will never give my z1 away ... it's the best phone i ever head in my hands (and i've had more then enough) ...mybe the z2 will be the replacement for the z1 in a while ... but at the moment there is nothing better available ...
EHHHM .. just to be clear ... im reporting about the standard german nonbranded C6903 .. i heard that some other countrys and models may have other display panels and may be worse than the "normal" device ... don't know, what is exactly true about this .. i can only tell you something about German unbranded C6903 which is mine and the mobile of 2 friends of me .. all working without problems ...
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mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I have the Z1, but the only reason I went for it instead of the G2 is because I need more than 32GB storage and I care about the materials / build quality of a product a lot. I guess if those things are important to you, go for the Z1, otherwise the G2 is probably better than the Z1 in every way really (especially the display and the size of phone to size of screen ratio. Z1 has HUGE bezels)
DJ_Synergy said:
The only horrible thing is the community, that writes crap about this nice device every time ...
I can tell you (with many hours of testing Z1, G2, S4, etc. that the Z1 is by far the best device out of the top devices at the moment... for sure you will have to know, what you are doing (and seemingly no one here does) ... i'm a photograph and have to say that the camera is brilliant (for a mobile camera) ... you just have to choose manual iso and such things, cause the automatic is (as always at EVERY camera) not the best for all situations ... e.g. if you shoot pics at night, the automatic mode gains the iso to maximum ... this will for sure make you able to shoot pictures that look like at evenig, not at night, but will gain the noise to a max ... if you choose wisely (e.g ISO 400) at night shots and hold the camera still you will get good pictures ...
i may upload a few examples today or tomorrow ..
the display: Yes, it is not such a good viewing angle as on new IPS-Panels or something ... BUT ... do you want everyone in a train e.g. be able to look and read everything on your display? Me not ... It's important to have enough angle to watch videos or look at photos (espacially for me) without getting wrong colors or something ... and THAT is what the Z1 does ...not more, but not less ...
so why is the z1 better than evey other mobile available?!
- it's water resistant (and yes, i testet it half an hour fully under water) ...
- its aluminium frame with saphire glass on both sides (yes it is) gives it a nice finish (im sure you can even let it fall on a stone without braking it, but not tested - it just falls periodically from my table on the carpet - ca 1m - and is still alive )
- the dev community is good
- the battery life is the longest for those cpus and displays
- the camera is awsome
- the display (triluminos) is brilliant with true colors, good contrast, etc ...
- sony delivers good support
- the sound that comes out of this mobile (even with just the headset in the package) is amazingly brilliant - with good earphones it's for sure the best i ever heard (sony has much experience cause of the walkman devices and such things ...)
- it comes out of the box with very cool features such as the stamina mode (wich works brilliant - no need for any other battery apps or task killers) or the ability to bind an DualShock-Controller to the mobile for gaming e.g. ... and much more ...
so enough said .. haters will allways hate ... but i will never give my z1 away ... it's the best phone i ever head in my hands (and i've had more then enough) ...mybe the z2 will be the replacement for the z1 in a while ... but at the moment there is nothing better available ...
EHHHM .. just to be clear ... im reporting about the standard german nonbranded C6903 .. i heard that some other countrys and models may have other display panels and may be worse than the "normal" device ... don't know, what is exactly true about this .. i can only tell you something about German unbranded C6903 which is mine and the mobile of 2 friends of me .. all working without problems ...
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Well, I do not think there is anything more to say :good:
Why everyone is complaining about Z1?
I have a Z1 and i LOVE IT!
Ok, my first impression wasnt the best (touch issues), but i replace it and now its perfect!
My battery can hold for 2 days with wifi and 4g the entire time, twitter, facebook, email, linkedin, everything connected and i play on my free times. TWO DAYS!
I dont have any problem with the angle because i dont use my phone looking from the sides (who do this?) when i use it the screen is in front of me, so not a problem.
Its water resistent, do you need more? (oh, but i dont live inside a pool bla bla bla, neither me, but is something to consider on a top end phone).
Performance is unbelievable! Im using stock ROM from Sony and is fast, stable, beautiful.
The camera is noisy? Yes, but ONLY on AUTO mode, change to MANUAL and do some basic camera ajustments, you will see a new camera, very clear photos even at night.
Internal storage 16gb, yes, this is crap, but i have 12 games installed and more 2gb of music without a SD Card, so all depends on your use.
So if you want a perfect phone, buy the Z1 or the brand new Z2, both of the phones are incredible!
I also agree.
I sold a Galaxy S4 and caught a Z1 and do not regret it.
I Make excellent pictures in Manual mode (the best camera on a smartphone).
Viewing angles never bothered me, so I usually look at the screen from the front.
Quality construction and water resistance = Perfect!
Excellent battery life.
G2 / N5 = plastic phones, no sdcard slot, no real good cameras, no water resistant, no great battery life.
Conclusion: Today, Z1 is the best option. If you can wait, buy a Z2 or HTC One 2 (M8). These will be better than Z1. :laugh:
I would say the technical best devices are the HTC One or the Xperia Z series. If you compare the Z, Z1 and Z2 the differences are minimal. Because of that you can decide by the amount of money you want to spend for a mobile phone. I am sure after the Z2 reaches the market, the prices for Z and Z1 will be lowered.
marciozh said:
I also agree.
I sold a Galaxy S4 and caught a Z1 and do not regret it.
I Make excellent pictures in Manual mode (the best camera on a smartphone).
Viewing angles never bothered me, so I usually look at the screen from the front.
Quality construction and water resistance = Perfect!
Excellent battery life.
G2 / N5 = plastic phones, no sdcard slot, no real good cameras, no water resistant, no great battery life.
Conclusion: Today, Z1 is the best option. If you can wait, buy a Z2 or HTC One 2 (M8). These will be better than Z1. :laugh:
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G2 has great battery life. probably on par or even better than Z1.
DJ_Synergy said:
so why is the z1 better than evey other mobile available?!
- it's water resistant (and yes, i testet it half an hour fully under water) ...
- its aluminium frame with saphire glass on both sides (yes it is) gives it a nice finish (im sure you can even let it fall on a stone without braking it, but not tested - it just falls periodically from my table on the carpet - ca 1m - and is still alive )
- the dev community is good
- the battery life is the longest for those cpus and displays
- the camera is awsome
- the display (triluminos) is brilliant with true colors, good contrast, etc ...
- sony delivers good support
- the sound that comes out of this mobile (even with just the headset in the package) is amazingly brilliant - with good earphones it's for sure the best i ever heard (sony has much experience cause of the walkman devices and such things ...)
- it comes out of the box with very cool features such as the stamina mode (wich works brilliant - no need for any other battery apps or task killers) or the ability to bind an DualShock-Controller to the mobile for gaming e.g. ... and much more ...
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few things i'd like to reply on:
first a few things that are not quite right:
display:
the triluminos display may seem brilliant, but is has it downsides. for those who are in this stuff, this video is pretty nice. well aside from that, it just has to look good right? wich it, in my opinion, does.
sound:
well yeah, with headphones it's definitly something, but without? ouch...
screen:
it's dragontail glass not saphire glass (source)
positive:
camera:
the camera is excellent IF you know how to use it. The G2 does decent pictures without questions, but they are heavily post processed. It may not be visible for the normal user, but if you're in that photo stuff the z1 should do better.
take a look at this page for further information.
but this should all be in vain, because those are stock roms, who really knows how the perform on custom roms?
battery:
it's huge. i came from Xperia S what lasted about 10 Hours with my usage. The Z1 easily gets over 2 Days with wifi, gps, mobile allways on. Additionally i receive quite a few push messages.
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i love my Z1
owned both (Z1 & G2) and I would definitely recommend the G2
Both are good phones...and I was in the exact same position choosing between the G2 and Z1. Yes the Z1 can have images with noise but I've managed to get a good technique with all the tips from XDA members...people are always complementing my Z1 camera
Ultimately it's down to what you want;
mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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So if you want custom roms the G2 is hands down the winner compared to the Z1 with a permanently locked bootloader (i.e. not unlockable). However if you can get a unlockable Z1 it's about even. If not the stock Z1 is still really good and very close to pure google experience once you root and clean things up with titanium backup.
If I could choose again I would probably go for the G2 since I prefer messing around with custom roms (although I would miss the solid premium feel the Z1 has...so maybe I'd try harder to source an unlockable Z1 :silly: ).
I was hesitating about the same thing, G2 vs Z1. I was almost sold for the G2, it was pretty nice at test (swipe gestures and tap screen are very user-friendly).
But finally I got my Z1 form my carrier, thinking that if it was not good for me I could sell it at a big price and buy a G2 instead. I never went this way. Testing a Z1 and owning a Z1 are 2 different worlds, this phone has just blown my mind.
Also had an accident with Coca and my phone held out for 30 minutes without any problem, I just washed it under a shower, cleaned it with my shirt. Way to go!
And I'm a music addict. Just check the two topics I've opened lately. All about sound. The Z1 is by far the best out there with Qualcomm DAC, implementation is perfect. Zero noise, zero distortion, power, lively music, responsive EQ, it is worth the experience.
I will definitely not trade my Z1 for a LG G2. Though the last one is an amazing phone and I recommend it, if you have money to chose either the Z1 or the G2, Z1 is the way to go. I don't know the Z2. If it does eveythign the same way or better than the Z1, it's a WIN-WIN situation.
Ah, I run stock ROM, haven't looked after root yet, nor bootloader stuff etc.
Hi !
I'm looking to replace my dead Xperia S with a more "tough" phone. I almost bought an Xperia SP, successor of the S, changed the decision at the last minute as the SP users told me about how bad its camera is.
So, is there any deal breakers like a bad camera or something like that for ZR ?
I heard a lot of complaints about a loose micro usb port, is that a majour concern ?
Thanks !
Happy Easter BTW
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That means I should get it ?
I'm getting a phone today and the choices for me are Xperia ZR, SGS 4, SGS 4 mini, Lg L90, Moto X, BB Z10.
I'm looking for a tough phone with a good camera and a decent battery backup.
x.marX said:
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That means I should get it ?
I'm getting a phone today and the choices for me are Xperia ZR, SGS 4, SGS 4 mini, Lg L90, Moto X, BB Z10.
I'm looking for a tough phone with a good camera and a decent battery backup.
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I am user of Xperia ZR C5502.far better than Xperia SP.ZR has better camera,sound and battery other than that it is dust and water resistance.
Well I can say that i am very happy with my xperia zr. I would recommend it anyone who asks. Its very good for tough use, i actually dropped mine a couple of times but no major damage or scratches. Tried taking pictures while in the pool and it was really clear and nothing happened to the phone. Although the screen is unresponsive when wet, Hence the need to put a shutter button on the side. Try watching video reviews on the phones you are interested in then make a decision from which function and features you really need. In the end it all depends on what you want. Goodluck! Hope you become a xperia zr user soon!
Ps. Xperia zr is getting an update at the month of may. So its also something to look forward to.
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I am a ZR user from almost an year now (i bought mine when it was fresh out on the stores) I could say if you clean the flaps you wont have any problems at all.Some people where complaining from a BT problems but maybe they cant handle the options (no problems for me).Since the price is low now you can go for it its a deal
bad front camera.
I m using xperia zr from 6months and its working great 100% water resistance washing my phone in every 3-4 day picture quality is gud , fast .camera is not that gud compare to samsung note2 otherwise its a vert gud phone in 27k
i have it since middle 2013 and it works like a charm
very fast,very good battery,strong,water prof,acceptable price
recommend it
Nothing extraordinary!
well, the camera is nice in well-lit conditions. But the performance is poor in low light.
Secondly, the internal memory is too low, but that shouldn't make a difference if you are thinking to root the device.
Thanks guys for the replies but I got a ZR in the mean time.
Its fast but after using good quality ips monitor, the screen of zr is underwhelming. The LG L90 demo unit had a better looking screen in terms of colour and contrast.
But yeah, the ZR is a good alrounder !
btw, I have an OTA update notification, 10.3.1.A.2.67. Should I go ahead and update it ?
Or is there any download link for an Indian version of that firmware ?6
if your phone is working good, then don't update. stock 4.3 has been terrible for me. pretty much every voice recording app broke (facebook, viber, audio messaging).
i'm hoping kitkat update in may will fix it.
Even i am looking forward to buy Xperia ZR but it seems in INdia there are no stocks in the shops and they say the production has stopped...and i read that there were heating issues.....this is bothering me..... so if the users of Xperia ZR confirm that the phones is worth buying and there are no such issues then i will go for it...and i intend to keep this phone for another 4 years...so any views?
dont worry about heating
I got a ZR over a month ago. I am very happy with it. There is no need to worry about heating issues.
I live in hyderabad where the temperature is very high (i wont say it's the highest in the world). When I play games for more than 30 minutes i had felt the device getting heated up - I just wipe it with cold water or pour a bit of cold water and it cools down - it is a waterproof phone after all.
The only drawback of the phone is the front camera (0.3 mega pixel) . But i never use video calling so that's fine with me.
JimSocks said:
if your phone is working good, then don't update. stock 4.3 has been terrible for me. pretty much every voice recording app broke (facebook, viber, audio messaging).
i'm hoping kitkat update in may will fix it.
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Thanks for the reply.
:good:
UPDATE: I put my phone in the water :silly: and now its sitting in the service center at the moment. Its been two weeks and they are saying they need to get a confirmation from their HQ to replace it under the Accident Cover Insurance (promo offer from Sony).
x.marX said:
Thanks for the reply.
:good:
UPDATE: I put my phone in the water :silly: and now its sitting in the service center at the moment. Its been two weeks and they are saying they need to get a confirmation from their HQ to replace it under the Accident Cover Insurance (promo offer from Sony).
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were the flaps closed properly ? (those that cover micro usb port and headset jack)
ajeesh.m said:
were the flaps closed properly ? (those that cover micro usb port and headset jack)
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Yes, It was but the back got torn off and water entered the insides quite easily.
Sorry for not updating the thread !
I got the mobile replaced under the Sony Accidental Care insurance program :good:
Aaand they updated the new phone with the latest software from Sony