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Hi Everyone,
I plan on purchasing a 7 inch tablet for email, calendar, browsing, some light word and excel updating, and occasionally Netflix. While nice to have, I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the apps I will use? Tablets such as the Samsung 2 7 that have a built in SD Card look nice and don't seem like they are suffering the same quality control issues the Nexus 7 is suffering. I had a really bad experience with the Transformer Prime and don't want to go down that path again.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
What nexus7 quality control issues?
Get some perspective......
One of the main advantages of the Tegra3 is the superior power management using the 5th CPU core
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What issues did you have with the transformer prime?
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>I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the [productivity] apps I will use?
Dual-vs-quad is mostly a marketing thing, like the old megahertz wars. For most operations, the Teg3 uses only one core (5th core, see video below) to conserve power. 3D gaming uses all 4 cores, which results in short battery life.
Most tablet use is not CPU-gated, except for hardcore gaming. Video playback nowaday has dedicated circuitry. In other words, if you don't do hardcore gaming, ignore SoC.
I think foremost criterion is screen size. A 7" is more portable, but for productivity (text-heavy) use, a 10" is more suited for its larger display. Would suggest a 10" for single-location use (ie in-home or at-work) and a 7" for mobile use. Best bet is to have one of each.
People tend to ask "what to buy," but a more useful question may be "when to buy." Now is not the best time to buy, as companies are just starting to roll out their wares for the fall shopping season.
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>I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the [productivity] apps I will use?
Dual-vs-quad is mostly a marketing thing, like the old megahertz wars. For most operations, the Teg3 uses only one core (5th core, see video below) to conserve power. 3D gaming uses all 4 cores, which results in short battery life.
Most tablet use is not CPU-gated, except for hardcore gaming. Video playback nowaday has dedicated circuitry. In other words, if you don't do hardcore gaming, ignore SoC.
I think foremost criterion is screen size. A 7" is more portable, but for productivity (text-heavy) use, a 10" is more suited for its larger display. Would suggest a 10" for single-location use (ie in-home or at-work) and a 7" for mobile use. Best bet is to have one of each.
People tend to ask "what to buy," but a more useful question may be "when to buy." Now is not the best time to buy, as companies are just starting to roll out their wares for the fall shopping season.
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I have used both the galaxy tab 2 and the nexus. The nexus is definitely faster and smoother. My nexus had the screen lift thing. Its getting RMAed. We'll see if the new one is better. From the tab 2s I have played with I haven't seen any defects really.
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They recently did a poll, and only a small portion of the people had issues. The people that didn't (myself included) just didn't have a reason to say anything.
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Mine is perfect, no issues what so ever and couldn't be happier with it. Seems people share complaints more than praise. This is my first tablet and have nothing to compare to but I haven't put it down very much since I received it Friday my phone finally gets a little break. I'm not big into games but I have a nephew that now loves my tablet because of the games. Guess it will be good entertainment when kids come over. Good luck, don't think you would be disappointed with this one.
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Go and buy one... if you get one that's defected you can always return it! Mine is perfect by the way.
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What problem did you have with the Eee Pad prime?
[/COLOR]I like the nexus 7. Defects always happen with the launch of a new product. My tablet has defects. The nexus 7 is a great deal and their are some other new tabs due out soon that's as cost effective as this tab. nexus 7 will have better support and faster updates. You need to research and figure out what it is you need. The only dual core tab that will out perform the tegra 3 is probably the samsung enyos 2 ghz tab that doesnt exist in real world yet.
BostonDan2 said:
Hi Everyone,
I plan on purchasing a 7 inch tablet for email, calendar, browsing, some light word and excel updating, and occasionally Netflix. While nice to have, I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the apps I will use? Tablets such as the Samsung 2 7 that have a built in SD Card look nice and don't seem like they are suffering the same quality control issues the Nexus 7 is suffering. I had a really bad experience with the Transformer Prime and don't want to go down that path again.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
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I have a Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 with dual core cpu and the nexus 7 with quad core. The performance is night and day. Whether that is due to software or hardware or both, I don't know. All I can tell you is that the dual core tablet is very rarely getting used, and I like the nexus 7 so much I ordered a second one as a gift for someone else. Mine is perfect, absolutely no quality issues, though it did give me a scare once taking longer than expected to reboot. And based on the ifixit rating, and the popularity of the device, this one will be around much longer than the other tablet, simply because it will be possible for me to fix it, if it breaks after it's out of warranty.
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Jelly bean has a lot to do with smoothness. Having a Galaxy Nexus upgraded to JB, it makes a big difference.
There is big noticeable differences between this and the Transformer running ICS but I haven't upgraded it to JB to do direct tests.
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They recently did a poll, and only a small portion of the people had issues. The people that didn't (myself included) just didn't have a reason to say anything.
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The polls consistently showed 50% having issues, unless there's one I don't know about.
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The polls consistently showed 50% having issues, unless there's one I don't know about.
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Think about it, a poll in a place where people with issues would come is not going to reflect the actual numbers. It will be heavily skewed.
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Think about it, a poll in a place where people with issues would come is not going to reflect the actual numbers. It will be heavily skewed.
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The pre-arrival population was already large enough compared to the size of the polls that I find it hard to believe 50% of them would've come from nowhere, rather than having been randomly selected from said population.
I'm still interested to know where this poll with low rates was.
Thanks to all that responded. This is helpful and given me a lot to think about.
To provide the background on the Transformer Prime, I received one with really bad wifi. Throughput was painful from 1 floor away from my router and I had a little bit of screen bleed, but I was ok with the screen bleed, it was the wifi that mad it unusable. I received really bad support from Asus, that was the tipping point that made me return the product.
I ended up with an iPad and it mostly works great, but I like the 7 inch form factor and I am curious if Android will provide more functionality with google apps that I'm already using for my business.
I keep going back and forth, but now I'm leaning towards the nexus as the problems being reported are not being reported as much anymore and this seems to have a lot of development interest.
Thanks again everyone.
The TF Prime lol. That thing was a nightmare and a complete design fault failure.
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BostonDan2 said:
Thanks to all that responded. This is helpful and given me a lot to think about.
To provide the background on the Transformer Prime, I received one with really bad wifi. Throughput was painful from 1 floor away from my router and I had a little bit of screen bleed, but I was ok with the screen bleed, it was the wifi that mad it unusable. I received really bad support from Asus, that was the tipping point that made me return the product.
I ended up with an iPad and it mostly works great, but I like the 7 inch form factor and I am curious if Android will provide more functionality with google apps that I'm already using for my business.
I keep going back and forth, but now I'm leaning towards the nexus as the problems being reported are not being reported as much anymore and this seems to have a lot of development interest.
Thanks again everyone.
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If development is a big factor for you then get a Nexus and never look back. The Nexus devices will always have tbe latest and grestest softwsre cause it comes straight from google. Good luck with the other OEMs as you could wait months to years for official updates.
Hi guys, I will be getting my Nexus 7 16GB tomorrow.Very excited! I will be using it mostly for gaming, web surfing, and maybe some Netflix/Movies. Just wanted to get some feedback on some of your experiences so far with the device. And your overall impression of the device. Thanks guys.
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Love it. Buy it. Enjoy it.
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Love it. Buy it. Enjoy it.
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Quoted for great justice. I feel the same. Best tablet imo.
Its an amazing device for the price. Well worth it. Came from a 10 inch HP Touchpad and much prefer the 7 inch form factor now.
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It's a really great device. Storage is it's only weakness. The16gb version should be your only option, though it's not enough either. But I love it. Feels like it's easily worth double the price.
I have only owned a capacitive tablet in the past with Android Eclair on it, that was complete balls and turned me completely off tablets.
The N7 is amazing, I can fit it in my pocket still, its powerful, the screen is crystal clear and responsive, amazing device that has restored my view of tablets in general.
Enjoy!
I've had my 8gb for about 12 hours and absolutely love it, I had a 16gb Asus Transformer up until yesterday and this is so much better. I agree with the previous poster regarding form factor, the Nexus is so much more comfortable to hold for long periods of time.
Jelly bean + Tegra 3 = Amazing performance.
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Love it, easily the best tablet I have owned.
I was unsure of the 7in formfactor, but am now convinced.
I also know 7 people that have ordered them off the back of playing with mine, and several iPad3's up for sale as a result.
Nexus 7 was my first step into the Tablet world and i have to say coming from a Galaxy Note, i loved every bit of it. Its build quality is just awesome which makes it feel premium in the hand. It is packing some serious specs with a quad core CPU and 12 core oGPU and the software is very brilliantly optimised for the device. So everything has been great so far, however the only downside to the tablet is: lack of storage (not expandable) and the lack of a rear facing camera. Overall it is a great device and for the price point nothing even comes close to it. However dont overrate it becasue although it gives you the bang for the buck, all the hype is causing people to expect too much from it even with such a low pricepoint.
Thank you guys for all of your input. I just picked up the 16GB version from my local OfficeMax. It was their last one. And they only received 2 of them. I'm just about to open this bad boy up. Very excited!
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I was curious too, with all the threads about defects and issues. It's scared me away...... I want a tablet, and would love to have one for college.....although I'm not sure where it would fit in since I've never owned a tablet.
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TheJanitor07 said:
Thank you guys for all of your input. I just picked up the 16GB version from my local OfficeMax. It was their last one. And they only received 2 of them. I'm just about to open this bad boy up. Very excited!
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Let us know you're thoughts. How much did it come out to?
It's a great tablet. Unfortunately I got two Nexus 7s with defective screens, so I'm not too happy at the moment.
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I was curious too, with all the threads about defects and issues. It's scared me away...... I want a tablet, and would love to have one for college.....although I'm not sure where it would fit in since I've never owned a tablet.
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this forum only makes up 0.1% of the people with Nexus 7's.. don't let these threads stop you from buying it.. all devices will have their problems.. even Apple products have issues..
But enough about that.. its many great apps in the market that makes great for college usage.. we got great note taking apps like "Evernote" "Springpad" the size is perfect to fit in any bag
I love my 16 GB nexus 7..u said u will be mainly gaming on the tab my gripe is that many game publishers havent optimized their games for tegra 3..dark knight returns and nova 3 for example are extremely choppy in comparison to how they run on other platforms....its not really the hardware its the game devs not optimizing code...I mean what good is a 12 core GPU if its barely being utilized...I have a tfp also and its the same issue with choppiness in certain games that should absolutely not be present.
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I just got mine today. Ordered it July 19 "2-day shipping" LOL. Anyway device arrived intact. Screen appears to be well stuck onto device. Lol
It is beautiful. Can't find a defect anywhere so far. The only thing that sucks is I have not been able to install Whatsapp! It says my device is not compatible with this version. Everything else flawless though.
Only had mine a few hours. No issues that I've noticed. Better than I thought it was going to be, a nice size to use, less bulky than iPad but much more usable than a smartphone. Much faster than the Asus TF101 and Jelly Bean is far better than Honeycomb.
I'm loving mine! Had it for a couple days now and it is fantastic to type on! It gets a little difficult in landscape but that's fine with me. The only annoyances as of now is where the nav bar is when you go landscape. I saw that on the Galaxy nexus in landscape the bar goes to the side with the device. On this tablet, it stays in the middle making it difficult to touch. This device isn't all that good in portrait landscape besides for watching stuff. It really made me fall in love with stock Android all over again. Shame my phone uses sense
Using my nexus as I type this. And I must say this thing is amazing. Blazing fast. Beautiful display. Very comfortable to hold in the hand and has a premium feel to it. I haven't tried any gaming yet and will check to inform you guys how that goes. The only thing I have noticed is while watching the transformer movie that was preloaded on the device, it skips and lags just a bit every now and then. Other than that I have no complaints so far. I will post some more thoughts after more use. Thanks for your advice guys.
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I really like my N7. I've had it for a couple weeks now and no complaints. The iPad has taken a backseat.
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The only thing I have noticed is while watching the transformer movie that was preloaded on the device, it skips and lags just a bit every now and then. Other than that I have no complaints so far. I will post some more thoughts after more use. Thanks for your advice guys.
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When I watched Transformers, it was not preloaded - it was streamed from the Cloud. It did pause - occasionally - for the streaming to catch up.
None of your freebies come preloaded, although you can download them.
Not sure which is more of a waste - Transformers or the ads posing as magazines.
Gaming is fantastic...
Hearing some negative stuff about reboots, inconsistent dock attachment and still stuttering, makes me think twice. This thing is damned expensive.
Keeping my tf700 and buying a new gpad or nexus 8 may be in the cards. Lol.
Per my other posts it is concerning that best buy has eradicated most of the infinity eee line from the stores. That and the fact that I feel a bit "rooked" by my purchase of the tf700 in that I thought I was getting a powerhouse device. Still love it though
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I have none of those problems. It's flawless for me.
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That's good to know!
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Sent mine back. It was so laggy
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this is what scared me....crap
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just took some more bloat off my tf700. It is fine (if not using google play store and not playing high end games); decided to pull down my ebay listing and hold pat on the tf700. just such a unique device...dont see the advantage to spend 300-400 upgrading (after ebay sale)
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Jeffruby said:
Hearing some negative stuff about reboots, inconsistent dock attachment and still stuttering, makes me think twice. This thing is damned expensive.
Keeping my tf700 and buying a new gpad or nexus 8 may be in the cards. Lol.
Per my other posts it is concerning that best buy has eradicated most of the infinity eee line from the stores. That and the fact that I feel a bit "rooked" by my purchase of the tf700 in that I thought I was getting a powerhouse device. Still love it though
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Not forget you read specially here about the so called negative stuff because we are used to discover these things much earlier than "normal" users.Not forget also that the users that have no issues at all are at least a factor 10 more than the one that have one or more minor to severe issues.
In all the tablet is very good but go in the thread of the nexus 10 or latest samsung tablet and they have their own "negative" things too.
Tablet works flawless for me. Stable, stunning display and having come from a TF700 this is blazingly fast! No dock issues with fitment for me. The only complaint is that I wish Asus still made the more "premium" aluminum dock. The new docks just feel like a cheap toy by comparison to the tablet quality.
I have no problems with mine, too. Blazing fast. No hickups. Ok, tablet is a little loose in the dock, but mine doesn't disconnect... yet
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Mine is wonderful so far. I haven't got the dock yet, but it's performing well with everything I throw at it. Chrome jitters a little, but it is the same on my girlfriend's nexus 10.
I'm happy I bought it. After the horrible tf201, I almost swore off another asus tablet.
This speed demon has my girlfriend jealous. I can't stop playing with it. Having had the TF700T this seems like a Maserati compared to the old Ford Escort..
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every thing has a bad side to it. my complaint right now is it gets hot fast. the performance is okay, definitely below my expectation. But thats why im waiting for either a custom asus rom or aosp. all of which will perform better than the stock rom we have right now
Im sure sdbags will do wonders with this tablet as he did the tf700. But I do have stuttering and it rebooted on me once. I pressed the home button and it stuck being high lighted, pressed the power button once and it rebooted.
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Im sure sdbags will do wonders with this tablet as he did the tf700. But I do have stuttering and it rebooted on me once. I pressed the home button and it stuck being high lighted, pressed the power button once and it rebooted.
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The TF701T is running android JB 4.2.2. These sound like early bugs that Asus is still working out. This happens with most releases from them. They are pretty good at issuing updates to fix them early on in the life cycle. Hopefully they are also working on KK4.4 as it absolutely flies on my nexus 5 especially as Google are dropping dalvik just in time (JIT) compilation and have introduced Android RunTime (ART)
My initial TF701 had a problem with the dock connection - tilting the screen even e few millimeters towards me resulted in the device turning off. I returned it and waited until it was clear that this was an incidental rather than structural problem. I got a new one about a week ago and I love it! No problems to date.
I have noticed some strange graphic artifacts. Once upon boot, I had a black screen with white lines until I made it sleep and woke it again. Today I bought GTA vice city, and I see strange graphics that correspond to gameplay. Has anyone else seen this? I'm guessing it's software, which doesn't bother me too much, but after the tf201, I'm leery about missing my return window or unlocking early.
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My initial TF701 had a problem with the dock connection - tilting the screen even e few millimeters towards me resulted in the device turning off. I returned it and waited until it was clear that this was an incidental rather than structural problem. I got a new one about a week ago and I love it! No problems to date.
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What nas been exchanged? Only dock?
who has a loose bezel on the left side of the tablet? mine is clicking when i press the tablet near the audio jack
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I have noticed some strange graphic artifacts. Once upon boot, I had a black screen with white lines until I made it sleep and woke it again. Today I bought GTA vice city, and I see strange graphics that correspond to gameplay. Has anyone else seen this? I'm guessing it's software, which doesn't bother me too much, but after the tf201, I'm leery about missing my return window or unlocking early.
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Just got mine. I had that same problem with black and white screen the first time I attached to dock and it updated itself. That was just a few hours ago. Otherwise all seems good. I do notice the screen does not seem as bright as my TF101 and the colors do not seem as true.
I am looking forward to rooting and getting upgrade to KitKat
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Just got mine. I had that same problem with black and white screen the first time I attached to dock and it updated itself. That was just a few hours ago. Otherwise all seems good. I do notice the screen does not seem as bright as my TF101 and the colors do not seem as true.
I am looking forward to rooting and getting upgrade to KitKat
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Use the Splendid App that the device supplies to adjust your color palette. I have mine on - 6 (cool). Seems brighter and more true on that setting. At least for me.
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Hello everyone. I'm a longtime follower of, and lurker on XDA. I always have appreciated the amazing work that originates here, and the time and effort that so many put forward to making this the definitive hub for development for tablets, smartphones, etc. That being the case, I felt that I could do no better than to trust the opinions I might receive with my following question.
I've been using my 32G TF101 w/ dock since they were new, and while I have the tablet rooted and tweaked (thanks again xda!), I feel like the device is nearing the end of it's usefulness to me. I'm gotten used to my Samsung GS4 for quick and light use, but when I switch back to my old trusty TF101 for a little more screen real-estate the tablet is almost painful to use. I know this disparity will only increase as my smartphones continue to get newer/smarter, and my tablet continues to become more woefully outdated.
I'd love to update so that the gap might not be as noticeable. Considering that I've managed to be content sticking with my TF101 for this long, I'm really on the fence with this decision. I don't know whether I should consider paying the none-too-inexpensive cost of bringing myself up to date with the 64G flavor of the TF701, or save a few hundred dollars and just be happy with the performance boost that a year 1/2 old TF700 would offer over my current tablet, despite the fact that the age of it might put me back in the same boat I'm already in much quicker.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! :good:
If your you're willing to unlock and use custom rom then the 700 is going to be a capable device as long as you don't play HD games on it as some if not most HD games don't play as smooth on it. Stock form it's a pain to use and suffers from I/O issues so it tends to lag and stutter when you're downloading or transferring data. Custom rom helps but the I/O is still present but is definitely better than stock. The 701 is the best Asus 10 inch tablet out right now and it's great stock. So if it were me I'd skip 700 completely and jump to 701. There are other great tablets out there as well like the Samsung note 10.1 but no kb dock. The best performer IMO is the hp slate book X2 but you're stuck with 16gb and lower resolution and warmer screen. But its the cheapest at $450 with a kb. Seeing that you're considering a 64gb model you're not going to be happy with that. So I think 701 is your better choice. Just read up on the 700 forum so you know what to expect if you decide to go for that device instead. I've had the 201 and the 701 each for about a year.
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701t, but gaming performance is decent, that's because the high res screen
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Try one out in a shop when possible and be amazed how quick and lagfree it is.
Screen of the TF700 is already very good and the TF701 screen is an improvement but not a big one. Higher resolution you only can see with apropriate content.
Tf701 is a big step forward in speed and when Asus manages to solve the dock connection problems there is no real competition, specially for this money!!
Hi,
i replaced my TF300T (Tegra3, 1Gig) against the TF701 and this is a huge step forward, just talking about the overall performance with ASUS ROM´s. I mean the TF300T was okay, but really laggy and had a lot times to think (stucks for 1 or 3 seconds). The TF701 is as good as instant to use (browse in desktop mode and stuff like that).
Yep Display also is much better, Keydock feels not so nice but i write much faster on this (better anyhow, i dont know why).
I would go to TF701 if you can sell TF700 for a good price, or check a head to head in any store or try one and if you dont want to hold the new one which i did not think, send it back
So from my side ASUS was 1st with Transformer Series, and i like those a lot. I used a TF101 and TF300 and 700 (but still owned the TF300T) but since the TF701 the Transformers on android are usable without any kind of "problems" or waiting or stucking or what ever, thats really amazing.
So if you want to see how fast it is, go to youtube and search for slatebook x2 vs nexus 10, and the nexus10 is a really really fast device if you will have the look against Tegra3 devices. Also ASUS spend faster memory in the TF701 than in series before, it runs much much better.
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Get the TF701T. The TF700T can't match it even with a good custom rom
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Get the TF701T. The TF700T can't match it even with a good custom rom
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If it werent for you i would've thrown the 700 against the wall a long time ago lol. So are you dumping the 700 or are gonna continue to develop for it? Glad you ended up getting the 701 after all though.
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If it werent for you i would've thrown the 700 against the wall a long time ago lol. So are you dumping the 700 or are gonna continue to develop for it? Glad you ended up getting the 701 after all though.
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Don't get me wrong I love my TF700 and it is now my work machine.
There will be more updates to the TF700 to come
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Don't get me wrong I love my TF700 and it is now my work machine.
There will be more updates to the TF700 to come
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Good to hear.
I still have my TF700 (wife is using it now) for a backup and because it is a good machine with it flaws (slow internal memory).
I did downgrade it to Cromi 3.4.7. where the draining of the dock is absent.
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So if you want to see how fast it is, go to youtube and search for slatebook x2 vs nexus 10, and the nexus10 is a really really fast device if you will have the look against Tegra3 devices.
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I understand why you suggested this, because the HP Slatebook x2 is a Tegra 4 device like the TF701T, but people who have had both the Slatebook x2 and the TF701T have said that the Slatebook outperforms the TF701T, probably because of the Slatebook's lower resolution.
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I understand why you suggested this, because the HP Slatebook x2 is a Tegra 4 device like the TF701T, but people who have had both the Slatebook x2 and the TF701T have said that the Slatebook outperforms the TF701T, probably because of the Slatebook's lower resolution.
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Exactly.
But only in GPU intensive applications like games.
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Good to hear.
I still have my TF700 (wife is using it now) for a backup and because it is a good machine with it flaws (slow internal memory).
I did downgrade it to Cromi 3.4.7. where the draining of the dock is absent.
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I've heard that the new thatv6 kernel fixes that bug.
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I've heard that the new thatv6 kernel fixes that bug.
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Really?? Did you test it yourself? Would be great!
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Really?? Did you test it yourself? Would be great!
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I sold my prime 2 weeks ago so my dock went with it so I can't test it.....
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I sold my prime 2 weeks ago so my dock went with it so I can't test it.....
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Ok, wil then monitor your TF700 CromiX thread then to see if someone did test it and has results.
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Exactly.
But only in GPU intensive applications like games.
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It's not just games. I have the slate book and it's butter smooth no Stuttering 99% of the time even with simple tasks like portrait to landscape transition. Once you have this kind of experience it's hard to appreciate other devices. At least in my case. I can honestly say this is as close to it ipad user experience as I'm gonna get on an android. My roommate with ipad is surprised as well.
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What setting do you leave your transitions on for the TF700T?
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What setting do you leave your transitions on for the TF700T?
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Still strange.
I have my third unit now (due to the dock connection problem) but none of them suffered from stuttering or lagging.
In the local Media Markt they had the slatebook X2 as a demo last weekend and I gave it a try but I see no real difference in performing normal tasks and on games they had installed compared to the Tf701.
But the better screen of the TF701 was clearly visible.
Thanks to everyone that responded. I seriously appreciate all the time and opinions everyone shared and the information put forth.I don't play many games on my tablet (guess I should have mentioned that), as I've got a nice desktop at home for that, but it still sounds like the TF701 should be my primary choice.
Now all I have to do is wait for the 64G flavor become available, and hope it does so before ASUS decides to muddy the waters of my decision by releasing an announcement about a TF800 or something along those lines. :laugh:
I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
sbdags said:
Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
jhermit said:
Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:
My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.
The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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xRevilatioNx said:
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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pipopipz said:
I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....
loner. said:
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
Sidewindr said:
Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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Ruud Westerhout said:
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.
Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
ratman6161 said:
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should