CMod and photo quality - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I was wondering if the photo quality of a XZ with CyanogenMod stays the same or gets any worse ?
The Sony photo application won't be available with it any more right ? Can the default CM photo application provide the same photo quality ?
Thx,
Mambobuzzz

Depends on how you define photo quality. I know the stock camera app in CM compresses the photos less, so they are about 3MB per 13MP photo.

Hmmm, just overall. When u compare both picture, are those from CMod any better/worse than the ones from the stock rom app ? Is this focal application in CMod now available ?

Mambobuzzz said:
Hmmm, just overall. When u compare both picture, are those from CMod any better/worse than the ones from the stock rom app ? Is this focal application in CMod now available ?
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I found image quality to be better then stock. I didn't like the processing that stock added to images. Was happy with CM.
Yes it has Focal too.

Okay. Sounds good. Is focal now stable ? As I did test it some months ago, it didn't alllow 16/9 pictures. Only 13mpx 4/3 full size picture.

Just found this. May want a read: http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/focal-camera-app-launches-as-standalone-beta/
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Oh yes, could be great. Thanks !

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Lg Camera App - Finally im not embarrased of my photos.

Hey all
I have been so frustrated with the camera on this phone as it takes barely passable photos in daylight but low light its almost impossible to take photos that are focusd and aren't full of noise. The HDR shot is quite good but nothing special.
Also the photos are a little zoomed in and squashed down if compared against objects you've take the pic of.
So i searched around and came across Lg camera in the market.
It has a free version which seems fully featured which bugs you for purchasing it every now and again. The aspect ratio of the pics is correct and tt takes excellent low light shots especially with flash on and has less noise and focuses perfectly.
Just thought I'd share it see what people thought.
Cheers.
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
Kassassin said:
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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+1 on this, I kinda kiss the old camera app.
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Just tried it. The quality of the pictures doesn't even change.
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Sorry to say but its totally different pics on mine to stock camera. If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me in low light and has no focusing issues at all even in a pitch black room with flash on.
You can also set infinity focus which eliminates all need to focus at all so for me lg camera fixes the problem
Also the aspect ratios in the photos on stock camera are totally different when compared to lg camera so maybe you need to compare the pictures side by side. Lg camera is true to the scene, Google camera squashes everything down. Also the Google camera is zoomed in further than lg camera.
My phone has no focusing issues with this app now.
Camera zoom fx isn't really a camera app more of a toy but anyway hope it helps someone as its sorted the camera form me and I'm very picky.
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
zephiK said:
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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That is for video...
There are many camera apps.I like camera zoom.. Works well..
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But I take it only the stock camera app supports photosphere?
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biffsmash said:
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
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Please do!
I tried lgCamera as well as other camera apps and saw no significant difference.
There are several aspects to the bad pictures problem.
- One is the limitations of the camera module which no app can fix.
- Then there's camera calibration. The LG Optimus 4X HD has the same camera module
but produces photos with less noise. There's room for improvement here but it is most
likely going to happen with a firmware update.
- Proper metering and scene evaluation will no doubt increase the picture quality.
Manual control is one avenue to peruse this but I haven't come across and app that
gives exclusive control over ISO and shutter speed. Some apps let you select one and
then automatically adjust the other.
Check out Camera FV-5.
biffsmash said:
If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me
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this just made me lol
because you cant see anything that means your phone must be faulty!:laugh:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
zivan56 said:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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jmudrick said:
Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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The camera app *suggests* the compression it would like, it doesn't do the compression itself. The userspace module instructs the camera kernel module to do the compression, and the build in DSP in the Qualcomm chip does the actual compression.
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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this is a great app!!
but how to solve "widescreen viewfinder" no effect
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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But it wants too many permissions.

Picture quality with 3rd-party apps

We all know now that the camera software is taking some bad pictures because of some compression issue.
But have anyone tried 3rd party apps like camera zoom or any other?!
Is the quality better?
I ask because I want to know if its a software issue or a hardware issue...and want to know before I buy 3rd-party camera app.
Kevin_seymer said:
We all know now that the camera software is taking some bad pictures because of some compression issue.
But have anyone tried 3rd party apps like camera zoom or any other?!
Is the quality better?
I ask because I want to know if its a software issue or a hardware issue...and want to know before I buy 3rd-party camera app.
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The quality is the same since every 3rd party app uses the camera APIs or camera Framework provided by Sony. It's a software problem, not a hardware one, but Sony is who has to improve it.
I wonder if CM or AOKP roms have their own "camera API" instead of Sony's. Probably they could fix the issue before than Sony does...
juanmaasecas said:
The quality is the same since every 3rd party app uses the camera APIs or camera Framework provided by Sony. It's a software problem, not a hardware one, but Sony is who has to improve it.
I wonder if CM or AOKP roms have their own "camera API" instead of Sony's. Probably they could fix the issue before than Sony does...
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Thanks for answer...Hm thats not good...Does CM or AOKP teams know about the issue or said anything about improving the camera for us?!
I did a chat with sony support and they said they are looking in to the matter but "don't know when/how the issue will be solved"
It's a software problem.
For daylight i use the stock camera in burst mode,it give a very good image quality.
For night time i use night camera from playstore,it removes all the noise.
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Only difference I noticed with camera zoom is u can set 100% jpg quality and pics go to 2.5mb instead max 2.2mb
So it's not much better but I hope rizal finds a solution for the problem like he did with my neo camera
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gm007 said:
It's a software problem.
For daylight i use the stock camera in burst mode,it give a very good image quality.
For night time i use night camera from playstore,it removes all the noise.
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Same here, using night camera +, quality is good.
Sent From XPERIA Z ::: Stock, Locked & Rooted ( SLR )

Sony Xperia Z camera

Xda Developers can you please make a fix for xperia z camera, i thing that 13mp camera should have much better pictures. Can you please try to fix that softwear, thank you
Smoke690 said:
Xda Developers can you please make a fix for xperia z camera, i thing that 13mp camera should have much better pictures. Can you please try to fix that softwear, thank you
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You should try Normal mode or Burst to Capture better pictures and the latest stock version's camera is at its Best I guess except Low Light pictures which are a bit Grainy!
indeed , our camera is not that great compared to S4's , why is that ? are there any apps that can be used to greatly automatically enhance our camera experience ? or are there some special settings ? or just leave it on superior auto ? on normal mode I find the pictures worse
Try this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46111181
If you feel that I've helped you in anyway, please hit the thank button
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galaxy s4 has much better camera just because of software so i text to xda developers, becouse i would be very happy if their would make some fix
Looking at the hardware side of the camera on the Z is good, but Sony still needs to work on the software for the camera, there should be more optimization.
Djuro89 said:
Looking at the hardware side of the camera on the Z is good, but Sony still needs to work on the software for the camera, there should be more optimization.
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Try other cameras. LG Camera is a great one and works on other than LG phones.
I'm fairly sure that the stock camera creates awful JPEG pictures with bad compression. I'm not sure if there are any 3rd party cameras that capture lossless .PNG stills?
iDroid8 said:
I'm fairly sure that the stock camera creates awful JPEG pictures with bad compression. I'm not sure if there are any 3rd party cameras that capture lossless .PNG stills?
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Camera FV-5 for PNG
More here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48134355
Smoke690 said:
Xda Developers can you please make a fix for xperia z camera, i thing that 13mp camera should have much better pictures. Can you please try to fix that softwear, thank you
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48134355
iDroid8 said:
I'm fairly sure that the stock camera creates awful JPEG pictures with bad compression. I'm not sure if there are any 3rd party cameras that capture lossless .PNG stills?
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LG Camera takes clear PNG photos even on low end phones.
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before when Xperia Z was released early this year. It was petty bad compares to latest firmwares. Few people tried improving this with different camera apps and build prop editing etc. And we all came to the conclusion only Sony has the ability to fully improve the XZ camera. You may notice better picture quality with different camera apps due to iso profiles and other colour setting handled by specific third party camera apps. But the jpeg compression and other things still remains unchanged as they are depends on camera libs which is closed source and only Sony can improve them
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Go to theme section and follow my thread.. You'll find a best camera app... and check the sample pic's I got... that app gives the best quality photos...
From Xperia Z LTE (C6603) by Kaniboy

Solution: Improve Camera Results on Cyanogen-based ROMs Dramatically!

Background
Like most people out there, I've suffered with terrible camera results on Cyanogenmod 11 and 12: blurry, unfocused images, terrible resolution. I tried most of the alternative camera apps (including A Better Camera, etc) and they had horrible results. Cyanogenmod could not integrate TW, so there wasn't a way to get results as good as stock.
Solution
The solution I stumbled upon is Snap Camera . In an attempt to make a fair comparison, I always set equivalent settings on each app: (autofocus, HDR off, 16mp photo).
1. It produces astonishingly sharper and more attractive images than Google Camera on CM11 and CM12
2. It produces a better focus and sharper images than any other camera app I've tried on CM.
3. I tried it on stock Lollipop and it produces a sharper image than stock, but not as good as A Better Camera.
My guess is that Snap Camera has found a way to integrate with TW or with the RAW files.
Here are the links:
Trial: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snaptrial
Full Version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap
Discussion
Try it and share your results from your CM-based ROM here.
I'm on stock ROM and I've been using snap camera for the past month, it's awesome! I don't use stock Samsung anymore.
I love the results since it removes the noise reduction =D. I've done so many comparisons (took pics and deleted them ) and it is just so much better than stock.
Ramsey said:
I'm on stock ROM and I've been using snap camera for the past month, it's awesome! I don't use stock Samsung anymore.
I love the results since it removes the noise reduction =D. I've done so many comparisons (took pics and deleted them ) and it is just so much better than stock.
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Yes it's the real thing. I just don't know why there are so many complaints in the CM and related threads about the camera performance. There is already a solution: Snap Camera simply gives the best results on CM.
Get the word out!
montrealguy said:
Yes it's the real thing. I just don't know why there are so many complaints in the CM and related threads about the camera performance. Snap Camera not only gives better results than CM, it gives better results than stock Samsung!
Get the word out!
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Does it support phase focus shot? Then I switch[emoji4]
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I just tried this (6.2.2 HDR apk) with not-so-great results. First post says "it removes noise" but thats precisely the problem I am having, that it is not removing noise. The shots are definitely sharper than the stock camera on OA6, which is finally like the stock camera on 4.4 with burst shots, etc, but the fact it has all this noise makes it un-usable.
The only change I made was to check the 'samsung camera' box.
Check out the comparison between stock and snap camera:
http://imgur.com/hfrZj6I
Ave666 said:
Does it support phase focus shot? Then I switch[emoji4]
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also does it have 4k or 120fps video taking?
For me if you said better than stock cm12 camera then yes it is but to compare with stock TW, hell no! Have you tried "a better camera" apk? It has freaking slow processing image but the quality is good actually
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Iriez said:
I just tried this (6.2.2 HDR apk) with not-so-great results. First post says "it removes noise" but thats precisely the problem I am having, that it is not removing noise. The shots are definitely sharper than the stock camera on OA6, which is finally like the stock camera on 4.4 with burst shots, etc, but the fact it has all this noise makes it un-usable.
The only change I made was to check the 'samsung camera' box.
Check out the comparison between stock and snap camera:
http://imgur.com/hfrZj6I
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Thanks for sharing. First: did you try adjusting the Sharpness setting? It is set on the highest extreme setting by default. Second: What does the Samsung Camera setting box actually do?
I think that the difference is much more dramatic on Cyanogenmod-based roms than on stock. I think that Snap can give you sharper images on a stock rom, but it's not going to be a gamechanger and you'll have to tweak settings.
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also does it have 4k or 120fps video taking?
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Try the free trial. I think it has 4k. I don't know about 120fps. This thread was mainly for people with CM-based roms.
Ave666 said:
For me if you said better than stock cm12 camera then yes it is but to compare with stock TW, hell no! Have you tried "a better camera" apk? It has freaking slow processing image but the quality is good actually
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I'm sorry- this thread was mainly geared towards people with CM-based roms. If you're like me, you will have tried dozens of different camera apps (including A Better Camera) on CM and gotten bad results. For some reason, Snap Camera seems to produce dramatically sharper results and focus than any other camera app I've tried on CM, especially Google Camera (which was truly terrible).
I'm sure that there are several camera apps that work well on a stock rom, but that's not the dramatic discovery I meant to convey here. I will adjust the OP to reflect this.
montrealguy said:
Thanks for sharing. First: did you try adjusting the Sharpness setting? It is set on the highest extreme setting by default. Second: What does the Samsung Camera setting box actually do?
I think that the difference is much more dramatic on Cyanogenmod-based roms than on stock. I think that Snap can give you sharper images on a stock rom, but it's not going to be a gamechanger and you'll have to tweak settings.
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beats me what it does, I did not notice any difference. Yes, I played with the sharpness, still a ton of noise whether its on 0 or 6. If I play with the ISO settings I can reduce noise, the auto mode sucks.
You can check denoise but it blurs a little bit the picture
The 16mp pics at default settings create a 8mb photo. Pretty big...
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Pain_Deluxe said:
You can check denoise but it blurs a little bit the picture
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Check that box and it will denoise but,
**it also cuts each picture size in half**.
By that I mean the file size. Resolution is the same but for example with denoise on, take a pic and let's say it is 6mb. Turn denoise off, take exact same photo again, you'll see that the resulting file size might be 12mb +/- 1 or 2 mb
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Swimguy14 said:
Check that box and it will denoise but,
**it also cuts each picture size in half**.
By that I mean the file size. Resolution is the same but for example with denoise on, take a pic and let's say it is 6mb. Turn denoise off, take exact same photo again, you'll see that the resulting file size might be 12mb +/- 1 or 2 mb
sent from my lollipop'd S5
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I'm getting 3.3mb with denoise and 7.5mb without. I don't know how you are getting 12mb!
Denoise certainly helps clarify things like writing, but it does blur fine details.
I wonder if it's possible to use the 7.5mb image and just denoise it as needed? Picasa?
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Go and test denoise + sharpness 6. looks like original TW cam
Pain_Deluxe said:
Go and test denoise + sharpness 6. looks like original TW cam
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That's what I did. I'm impressed!
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Pain_Deluxe said:
Go and test denoise + sharpness 6. looks like original TW cam
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?[emoji50] [emoji47] but the tw cam pretty much sucks.
The only nice thing is it's slow motion video recording. but honestly the image quality is mediocre at best.
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...J-WGHQ&usg=AFQjCNECvYpTfiIXKon3EX_PRfT74gph7g
This is completely free and has all of the functionality (and more) of snap. The ui is far more intuitive overall and there are clear and non intrusive better quick-access settings
sent from unlocked Bootloader land, with my sm-g900az running some version of lollipop// thanks cricket
Swimguy14 said:
This is completely free and has all of the functionality (and more) of snap. The ui is far more intuitive overall and there are clear and non intrusive better quick-access settings
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Does this address the S5 close up focus problems also do you know?
F.
Swimguy14 said:
?[emoji50] [emoji47] but the tw cam pretty much sucks.
The only nice thing is it's slow motion video recording. but honestly the image quality is mediocre at best.
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...J-WGHQ&usg=AFQjCNECvYpTfiIXKon3EX_PRfT74gph7g
This is completely free and has all of the functionality (and more) of snap. The ui is far more intuitive overall and there are clear and non intrusive better quick-access settings
sent from unlocked Bootloader land, with my sm-g900az running some version of lollipop// thanks cricket
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Can you clarify whether the Open Camera results you are referring to are on a CM-based rom??? Almost all the camera apps give good results on TW but have horrid results on CM.
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Denoise is only in the Editor app right? As i can't see it in the camera app anywhere?
i'm currently on stock Bob7 lolipop rom.
The app certainly seems quicker than stock camera app, but as mentioned before it adds loads of noise to the photos.
My guess is that it defaults to a higher ISO setting resulting in faster shutter speeds ( less blur) but more noise in the photos.

Mi a2 camera quality

Guys i am from india and bought this few days back
Its snappy nice body built but camera quality is bad
Is there another app thay i can use instead of stock camera or are there particular settings in camera app like auto exposure or contrast or sharpness thati should change plz do tell
No root just wanna improve picture quality of camera here
Is it possible?
It's only you, this device's camera is the best at this price tag... Try to flash latest fastboot image again, maybe it solves your problem
"Camera quality is bad" ??
I'd suggest looking at the many various reviews of this device. Almost all of them rave about the camera and have sample pictures (which are outstanding).
What makes you think the quality is bad?
The camera of this phone is the one thing that is far better than the price. Must be something wrong with your unit. The quality is good. Very good.
I'm not satisfied with stock camera also, try this two camera apps.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/themes/asus-pixelmaster-camera-nokia-camera-t3852650
sharingan said:
Guys i am from india and bought this few days back
Its snappy nice body built but camera quality is bad
Is there another app thay i can use instead of stock camera or are there particular settings in camera app like auto exposure or contrast or sharpness thati should change plz do tell
No root just wanna improve picture quality of camera here
Is it possible?
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I think you can use gcam mod for mi a2, try it and tell us.
aexlez said:
I think you can use gcam mod for mi a2, try it and tell us.
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That requires root ?
sharingan said:
That requires root ?
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I don't know because I don't use it.
balazs312 said:
It's only you, this device's camera is the best at this price tag... Try to flash latest fastboot image again, maybe it solves your problem
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Do yu use 6gb variant and it not what are all yr camera setting in stock app ( like contrast sharpness and all )

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