'Android OS' using a lot of CPU time - Moto X Q&A

Android OS currently has 1:34 of CPU total and 0:32 of keep awake, out of 5:00 on battery (h:mm).
Is this normal for this phone? Seems like an awful lot of both.

I never use Wi-Fi because I have unlimited data but the last two days I tried using it exclusively to see how much it would help battery life and now I'm seeing the exact same thing you are. I'm not sure why this would make a difference but I'm going to try all LTE tomorrow and see if it reverts back. My "android os" has never previously exceeded screen as a battery drain culprit so I'm not entirely sure
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Update with new info. This is after a factory reset.
Is there any way I can track down what is causing this?

I had similar issues with mine. My culprit was Location services being on all the time. I turned it off for a few days and my Android OS was significantly lower.

Preliminary experimentation indicates that the system processes chew up CPU time with Wifi and high-accuracy location enabled, but not with Wifi disabled and high-accuracy location enabled.
I'm now testing with Wifi enabled and location disabled.

Im on same page not sure why, but everything start like thanksgiving day
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Yup, I've had this for a few days now. Today, I was actually using the X a lot, so my battery lasted like 8 hours total. Usually I have no problem at all getting through the day. I'm on LTE most of the day, and it was doing fine at first like that, so I don't think that's the reason. I'll try disabling some of the apps that use the location services and see if that helps.

It definitely appears directly related to Wifi. With Wifi off, I don't have the problem at all, regardless of other settings such as location, Active Notifications, etc.

Yeah mine too. I keep WiFi on since I don't have great data speeds.
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So what is this about? Bad WiFi driver or something?

jonnythan said:
So what is this about? Bad WiFi driver or something?
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I really don't know. Even though the CPU is being used a lot, standby time is okay. ~1% per hour. That's still horrible compared to my HTC One.
Something that has me kind of worried is that my N7 running 4.4 also has the same problem. It was great running 4.3 (~.3% per hour), but with 4.4 it tanked.
I hope moto/google releases the 4.4.1 update fixing all this.

I'm having the same problem too. It happened all of a sudden after Thanksgiving. Does this have anything to do with Google Services sucking the battery down?

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I'm having the same problem too. It happened all of a sudden after Thanksgiving. Does this have anything to do with Google Services sucking the battery down?
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google services is just location. Turn location to "device only", then that problem goes away. Make sure "Location History/Reporting" is OFF too.
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Wakelocks for anyone that is curious.
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Could it be Motorola Connect? I just started using it after Thanksgiving and that's when the high Android OS usage spiked.

I get the problem even when location services are disabled.

Do you guys use or have Motorola Connect enabled? I turned mine off and after a few hours the Android OS usage went down a bit. I hope I'm right.

I have never used Motorola Connect.

Its the same with cm10.2 & cm11 Roms , android os is always high on CPU usage, so I assume its Google apps that are the cause
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Disabling Moto Connect had no effect.
Why would Google apps use tons of CPU on Wifi but not 4G?

I've never turned on Moto connect. I've turned off wifi scanning from the beginning too. Something is a bit off here.
If someone has a moto forums account, please post it there to see if they can help. I bet there are more people with this problem, just not saying anything.

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Battery Drain?

When I got the phone my battery was pretty phenomenal (comparatively speaking). But it seems since I took the update that Sprint pushed out a few weeks ago, the battery can't make it more than a few hours with light/moderate use. Its really horrid to be honest. Hoping the eventual 4.2.2 OTA will fix this. But in the meantime I wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue and possibly help identify the source of the problem. (By the way I am not rooted)
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When I got the phone my battery was pretty phenomenal (comparatively speaking). But it seems since I took the update that Sprint pushed out a few weeks ago, the battery can't make it more than a few hours with light/moderate use. Its really horrid to be honest. Hoping the eventual 4.2.2 OTA will fix this. But in the meantime I wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue and possibly help identify the source of the problem. (By the way I am not rooted)
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Have you checked the version of your Google Play Services APK? It can cause a particularly nasty bug on HTC devices.
Rirere said:
Have you checked the version of your Google Play Services APK? It can cause a particularly nasty bug on HTC devices.
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Play Services is v 3.1.36 but the actual Play Store is v 4.1.10 which is said to "fix battery drain issue." Still seems to be draining pretty rapidly. Any fix you know of?
Can we see your usage stats?
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Play Services is v 3.1.36 but the actual Play Store is v 4.1.10 which is said to "fix battery drain issue." Still seems to be draining pretty rapidly. Any fix you know of?
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The Play Store update should have also pushed Play Services, so yeah. Could we see your usage and also your app list/sync settings?
I'm in the same boat, even after the Google Play Store fix.
Seriously, we need usage stats.
Sorry, been working in home WiFi.
Hardly been using the phone since I still have my old Evo LTE and the battery is better on that.
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Wifi used up 43% of 60% of your battery? That's like a quarter of your battery gone! Am I the only one who thinks that's weird? Can we see the graph and awake time etc? (Sorry for the trouble, but it's the only way we can tell)
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Sorry, been working in home WiFi.
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Just wanted to ask, what does that mean? (Not trying to be negative in any way)
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Wifi used up 43% of 60% of your battery? That's like a quarter of your battery gone! Am I the only one who thinks that's weird? Can we see the graph and awake time etc? (Sorry for the trouble, but it's the only way we can tell)
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Just wanted to ask, what does that mean? (Not trying to be negative in any way)
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Well, in fairness for the last week or so I've been charging the phone and leaving it in my room. The screenshot was after like a day and a half in which a hardly used it and had WiFi on.
By working on home WiFi I meant talking to ISP and bumping up speeds, for the second time in a week.
I'll post the graph when I get home from work or early tomorrow as the phone has been unplugged for about 20 minutes.
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It won't hurt if you actually use it. Watching vids/playing games prevents blown up stats like that.
EDIT: Please, also include stats like screen time, awake time, cell reception, Wifi etc.
This was at work. I hardly use my phone at work fyi.
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Dropped 25 ish percent in 6 hours? What seems to be the problem?
With your usage, that would give you a day. I'm happy with 11 hours.
But with no internet connection and hardly any use. It concerns me because usually it would drop 5 maybe 10%. It was great on sleep.
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OK, now that I think about it, you're right. I remember getting more than 2 days on standby with absolutely no use (on wifi).
A day with that kind of usage is really not that good. It's weird because your stats don't show anything odd. I'd like to see some moderate to heavy usage stats though. The kind you say gives you 5 hours. That would help more.
Here you go. About 50% gone in about an hour of use (on WiFi) mostly on YouTube/Twitter or music with regular use of ATK.
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I'm having a serious battery drain issue with my Sprint One also, though I don't remember exactly when it started - it might very well have been that OTA update.
My battery drains when the phone is asleep. The phone will be dead in just over 24 hours from 100%, with less than one hour of screen usage. The integrated "usage" monitor shows that WiFi consumes this power , whether or not WiFi is in use. I have a paid task manager app that can track stats over time, and according to it, the processor appears to be running at ~15% constantly when the screen is off. I've tried disabling WiFi and having the phone sleep on just the cell network, to no avail. I first thought that perhaps the poor service at my house was causing it. However, I watched the battery drain at exactly the same rate when in an area with perfect coverage.
Here's the weird part - I tried airplane mode'ing my phone. Airplane mode doesn't seem to stop it. In fact, airplane mode seemed to accelerate the drain! I find it simply unacceptable that my phone will die like this with almost no usage.
I feel that the problem is not a rogue third-party app I have installed. I've used the "disable" option on Facebook, Twitter, and I've removed several other suspected apps. It makes no difference. I even suspected my task manager app; I tried removing it and looking at the integrated one, and there was no difference.
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I'm having a serious battery drain issue with my Sprint One also, though I don't remember exactly when it started - it might very well have been that OTA update.
My battery drains when the phone is asleep. The phone will be dead in just over 24 hours from 100%, with less than one hour of screen usage. The integrated "usage" monitor shows that WiFi consumes this power , whether or not WiFi is in use. I have a paid task manager app that can track stats over time, and according to it, the processor appears to be running at ~15% constantly when the screen is off. I've tried disabling WiFi and having the phone sleep on just the cell network, to no avail. I first thought that perhaps the poor service at my house was causing it. However, I watched the battery drain at exactly the same rate when in an area with perfect coverage.
Here's the weird part - I tried airplane mode'ing my phone. Airplane mode doesn't seem to stop it. In fact, airplane mode seemed to accelerate the drain! I find it simply unacceptable that my phone will die like this with almost no usage.
I feel that the problem is not a rogue third-party app I have installed. I've used the "disable" option on Facebook, Twitter, and I've removed several other suspected apps. It makes no difference. I even suspected my task manager app; I tried removing it and looking at the integrated one, and there was no difference.
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Check to make sure never auto turn on Wi-Fi is checked in Wi-Fi advanced settings. I was going to suggest poor reception since that kills my battery, but you mentioned trying airplane mode.
With screen off and nothing running, it's not surprising that Wi-Fi is the main battery drain. But it is too fast in my opinion too.
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Is high performance Wi-Fi disabled?
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Battery drain overnight

So I've noticed that my battery seems to drop quite a bit 15% or more overnight. Not a huge deal but I'm just wondering if there is anything I can check or do. Figure it could help with overall battery life as well.
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Known issue. Lots of X users have unusually high idle drain. Probably due to high android os usage. Search the battery threads and you will find some suggestions.
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My trick is to disable motoconnect. It at least makes a huge difference on my phone.
I just realized that m wifi was out all night and the phone was on 4g, that usually will drain it a bit faster. I'll monitor it over the weekend.
I did freeze motoconnect as well thanks!
Not sure anyone has really pinpointed it. It does seem the Android OS process is higher on this phone then any other phone. But theres no particular wake locks or anything that tell us exactly why its draining so high. Alot of users say it depends on routers configurations. Alot of suggestions are to greenify some things like the google play store, google maps, etc. Also removing alot of undeeded apks. Ive done it all, freezing APKs, greenifying apps. On average my idle drain is 1.8%/hr. Ive had it as high as 2.5% and as low as .8%. Although ive made no connections as to how it got that low one night.
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My trick is to disable motoconnect. It at least makes a huge difference on my phone.
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You just clicked "unlink account" under motorola device id?
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You just clicked "unlink account" under motorola device id?
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I think he meant disable it by going to settings > security > device administrators > Motorola device policy
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Hahaha, all I did was to disable motorola connect at app setting. I did see a very visible improvement. As for Moto security, I actually want that function while disabling AVG anti-theft function.
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Hahaha, all I did was to disable motorola connect at app setting. I did see a very visible improvement. As for Moto security, I actually want that function while disabling AVG anti-theft function.
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Android.com/devicemanager does the same as Motorola security. Its pretty much the same thing.
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Not sure anyone has really pinpointed it. It does seem the Android OS process is higher on this phone then any other phone. But theres no particular wake locks or anything that tell us exactly why its draining so high. Alot of users say it depends on routers configurations. Alot of suggestions are to greenify some things like the google play store, google maps, etc. Also removing alot of undeeded apks. Ive done it all, freezing APKs, greenifying apps. On average my idle drain is 1.8%/hr. Ive had it as high as 2.5% and as low as .8%. Although ive made no connections as to how it got that low one night.
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I'm in your boat. Searched everywhere. Nothing solves it. Some have reported returning the phone and the next one is better. Not sure if its myth or not. Considering exchanging phones tomorrow. As short as I can put it. Let me know if you find a solution.
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Might be placebo, but i tried the unlinking the motorola account id last night like mentioned and i ran at 1.1%/hr in a ****ty 1-2 bar low strength area all night. So that either helped a good bit or was a quincidence. Will check the idle drain again tomorrow after overnight in a 3-4 bar area.
I had horrible idle drain (10-20% overnight) but once I rooted and froze/greenified everything I could, now I lose 2-3% overnight. Doesn't get much better than that.
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I had horrible idle drain (10-20% overnight) but once I rooted and froze/greenified everything I could, now I lose 2-3% overnight. Doesn't get much better than that.
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I had an X when they first came out and also got horrible idle drain. I returned it before a root method was available.
Now I've got a T-Mobile version on the way and am going to test again with lots of stuff frozen. Unfortunately I can't greenify because I have to delete root after I finish setting up the phone because of my corporate email app.
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I had an X when they first came out and also got horrible idle drain. I returned it before a root method was available.
Now I've got a T-Mobile version on the way and am going to test again with lots of stuff frozen. Unfortunately I can't greenify because I have to delete root after I finish setting up the phone because of my corporate email app.
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what do you mean your corporate email app? there is a work around for corporate email security depending on what you meant by corporate email app.
I just checked my phone last night and got it to .8% per hour. No idea what is different between today and oh say 2 days ago when I lost 2.5% and hour. Going to check it again tonight but even .8% isn't that big of an accomplishment especially considering how much of this phone i have locked down.
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what do you mean your corporate email app? there is a work around for corporate email security depending on what you meant by corporate email app. So you have to root, set your phone up the way you want, then unroot, before you install the app.
I just checked my phone last night and got it to .8% per hour. No idea what is different between today and oh say 2 days ago when I lost 2.5% and hour. Going to check it again tonight but even .8% isn't that big of an accomplishment especially considering how much of this phone i have locked down.
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Corporate email app is called good for enterprise. It has a root checker that disables the app if root is detected. Then you have to get your IT department to re enable your account.
0.8% is good in my opinion. But it's troubling that so many people seem to report 2.5% one night and then less than 1% the next night, with no change made to phone to account for the difference. Almost seems random and inexplicable, which makes it much harder to troubleshoot.
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Corporate email app is called good for enterprise. It has a root checker that disables the app if root is detected. Then you have to get your IT department to re enable your account.
0.8% is good in my opinion. But it's troubling that so many people seem to report 2.5% one night and then less than 1% the next night, with no change made to phone to account for the difference. Almost seems random and inexplicable, which makes it much harder to troubleshoot.
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even harder to troubleshoot when some people say they returned their phone and got a new one and had everything installed the exact same and their battery drain was fixed... Very frustrating. I know a few culprits on my phone like qcom_rx_wakelock (but that changes to a different wake lock when Im not on wifi) and alarm manager ( some google service is calling on alarm manager like 3000 times a night), and my wifi seems to cause problems occasionally and power manager service is a b**** sometimes as well.
If you are experiencing bad idle drain, please go post in https://forums.motorola.com/posts/afdf80c0dc. I think actual Motorola employees monitor those forums and report issues to engineers.

High CPU usage and lots of GPS activity since installing kitkat upgrade

I installed the Sprint OTA kitkat upgrade last night. This morning, I started noticing that my battery was draining much more quickly than normal - 12 or more percent per hour with no usage, wifi on while in easy range of my home wifi (normally I see less than half this drain unless I am actually using to phone or off wifi). I've also noticed that the "receiving location data from GPS" notification icon keeps flickering on and off rapidly, sometimes almost constantly. I don't know if the two are related.
"Power Saver" is on, and battery usage shows 87% for "Android System".
Anyone else seeing this?
I've just tried turning Location Services off to see if that has any effect.
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Update: it's definitely Location Services. After turning it off, my "idling" battery utilization dropped to about 3% per hour. What gives?
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Update: it's definitely Location Services. After turning it off, my "idling" battery utilization dropped to about 3% per hour. What gives?
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Yes this is a know issue when using gps/wifi for location. Try using only mobile network for location unless you need gps for maps.
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Yes this is a know issue when using gps/wifi for location. Try using only mobile network for location unless you need gps for maps.
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Known problem for the HTC ONE in general, or known problem for the HTC ONE with kitkat? I've had the ONE for 9 months, use the GPS extensively (so Location Services is always on and enabled for GPS) yet I never had this problem until upgrading to kitkat.
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The answer, at least in my case, was a hard reset. I did that, reinstalled my apps, and the GPS / battery issue has gone away. I was also having other intermittent weird issues that have gone away since reinstalling. I guess the upgrade must have corrupted some things...
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Install/run AppOps and disable location permissions for Google Play Services and any other app that you think doesn't need location permission.

Nexus bricked (already got new one) and battery question

So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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the 5.1, then the 5.1.1 updates fix MANY issues, add features, and it changes the way the cpu works, for the better..
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the 5.1, then the 5.1.1 updates fix MANY issues, add features, and it changes the way the cpu works, for the better..
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Any tips to prevent it from bricking again? It's a brand new phone in a brand new package... Don't want to go to the shop again tomorrow saying it's broken again. And I could fix it by adb & fastboot stuff but I don't want to void my warranty yet.
the battery drain is mostly related to how you personally use the phone, how you set it up, what apps you install and use, and your phone/data signal quality. keep your phones brightness down for better battery.
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Jessestr said:
Any tips to prevent it from bricking again? It's a brand new phone in a brand new package... Don't want to go to the shop again tomorrow saying it's broken again. And I could fix it by adb & fastboot stuff but I don't want to void my warranty yet.
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well, it wasnt "bricked", you just didnt know how to fix it. but no, thetes nothing you can do from that randomly happening again. but it was a random event, as the far majority of nexus 6 updated ota fine.
Jessestr said:
So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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Regarding battery life, Facebook app is a huge battery killer. I suggest using the mobile site. Battery life is dependent on many things, including signal quality, apps installed, location settings, screen brightness, etc. I regularly see 5-6 hours of SOT. I keep location set to battery saving. Ambient display is turned off, because I use a custom ROM that enables the LED notification by default. My brightness is kept between 30-35% with adaptive brightness enabled. Also, I'm either on WiFi or a strong LTE signal.
Regarding your misfortune with the OTA soft brick, it is not uncommon but I doubt it will occur again on your new device. If it should, return it again. It is of no fault of yours. You should always update, as important security and system features are updated.
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Regarding battery life, Facebook app is a huge battery killer. I suggest using the mobile site. Battery life is dependent on many things, including signal quality, apps installed, location settings, screen brightness, etc. I regularly see 5-6 hours of SOT. I keep location set to battery saving. Ambient display is turned off, because I use a custom ROM that enables the LED notification by default. My brightness is kept between 30-35% with adaptive brightness enabled. Also, I'm either on WiFi or a strong LTE signal.
Regarding your misfortune with the OTA soft brick, it is not uncommon but I doubt it will occur again on your new device. If it should, return it again. It is of no fault of yours. You should always update, as important security and system features are updated.
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Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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I'm in the "extreme" category as far as usage goes. So, my 5-6 hours of Screen On Time translates to about 15-18 hours of use/standby. For less frequent use, you should easily see 1-1.5 days on a charge, if not more.
Yes, update. There's nothing you can do to prevent it from happening. Well, maybe not nothing...
You could unlock your bootloader, and never worry about updates again.
Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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a little story about facebook.. the last time i had facebook on any of my devices was in 2011. i had it on bith my nexus phones and tablet at the time. as far as i could remember, it always drained my battery. i had it on my nexus 7 for 2 months. one day i noticed it drained 25%. the funny thing was that i never ever logged into my account on the tablet, ever. i started niticing that it drained anywhere from 8-30% battery, without me ever using. after a week or so of this, i uninstalled the facebook app from all of my devices, and have been using the site since. btw, facebook is one of the top 5 apps that will drain your battery, even if you dont ever use.
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Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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my phone uses about 5.5-6.5 hours sot. for me, thats about a day, but im a very heavy user. we all use our phones differently, so 5h sot will mean different things to different people.
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a little story about facebook.. the last time i had facebook on any of my devices was in 2011. i had it on bith my nexus phones and tablet at the time. as far as i could remember, it always drained my battery. i had it on my nexus 7 for 2 months. one day i noticed it drained 25%. the funny thing was that i never ever logged into my account on the tablet, ever. i started niticing that it drained anywhere from 8-30% battery, without me ever using. after a week or so of this, i uninstalled the facebook app from all of my devices, and have been using the site since. btw, facebook is one of the top 5 apps that will drain your battery, even if you dont ever use.
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my phone uses about 5.5-6.5 hours sot. for me, thats about a day, but im a very heavy user. we all use our phones differently, so 5h sot will mean different things to different people.
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Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
Jessestr said:
Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
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android wear, i have no idea, sorry. but 5.1.1 is better
Jessestr said:
Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
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No battery drain issues here.
All updates installed. Battery life got good, also fixed my moto 360 install. Both devices can stay on for much longer! Feels good !

Battery drain on Android 6 Marshmallow when IDLE

I've found several threads about drain, but all of them are Android 5 related.
Unfortunately I still have this problem on Marshmallow.
I don't notice it when using the phone, but while idle, it drains battery. Attaching the screenshot indicating I charged my phone at around 10 pm and at 1 pm next day it was already at 15%. Screen on time was only 2 hours.
Wakelock Detector does not work on Marshmallow. Installed BetterBattery Stats to try to find out what's causing this, but If any body's experienced it and has any idea what should I do, please share your opinion.
I've got MRA58R, bootloader unlocked, rooted, root aps list is: call recorder, adaway, betterbattery stats, es file explorer, gmd gesture control, nexus 6 double tap to wake.
Don't know if any of this is really important, but still. The rest is pure stock installed with full wipe.
PROBLEM SOLVED:
Nexus 6 on Android 6 has bug with 5 Ghz WiFi networks, use 2.4 Ghz and your battery will be fine!
Today before going to sleep I charged the phone to 100%.
I left it with wifi on for the night. In the morning after 8 hours I had 65% left. Screen on time was only 42 mins.
Attaching screens from battery and better battery stats.
What should I do next?
I would appreciate any opinion.
I wanted to try turning off Google Now (it helped my friend on Nexus 4), but on Nexus 6 I just can't find this ON\OFF switch of Google Now, how to turn it off?
I'm running pure nexus and get none of that. Around 6 hours sot. I'm not sure what would cause this, have not seen it
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donnyp1 said:
I'm running pure nexus and get none of that. Around 6 hours sot. I'm not sure what would cause this, have not seen it
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What are the possible ways to detect what's causing this?
cL0uD` said:
Today before going to sleep I charged the phone to 100%.
I left it with wifi on for the night. In the morning after 8 hours I had 65% left. Screen on time was only 42 mins.
Attaching screens from battery and better battery stats.
What should I do next?
I would appreciate any opinion.
I wanted to try turning off Google Now (it helped my friend on Nexus 4), but on Nexus 6 I just can't find this ON\OFF switch of Google Now, how to turn it off?
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i bet, 99.999%, that its your wifi. try leaving it off your wifi then check idle drain. my work wifi does the same thing, so i rarely use it.
simms22 said:
i bet, 99.999%, that its your wifi. try leaving it off your wifi then check idle drain. my work wifi does the same thing, so i rarely use it.
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This. I had a similar issue a while back (although it didn't happen every time). One thing someone told me was to avoid the 5g band on wifi. Whoever it was correctly determined that I was connected to the 5g band of wifi at home and suggested I use it on the 2.4 instead. I did so and my drain dropped significantly. Now if I charge to full, leave it on my nightstand overnight off charge, I wake up 6 or 7 hours later and lose *maybe* 1% per hour. That's with wifi, bluetooth, gps all on etc.
simms22 said:
i bet, 99.999%, that its your wifi. try leaving it off your wifi then check idle drain. my work wifi does the same thing, so i rarely use it.
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I must say you've revived my spirit! I am always using WiFi in order to save mobile traffic, it's on even when screen's off.
Morpherios said:
This. I had a similar issue a while back (although it didn't happen every time). One thing someone told me was to avoid the 5g band on wifi. Whoever it was correctly determined that I was connected to the 5g band of wifi at home and suggested I use it on the 2.4 instead. I did so and my drain dropped significantly. Now if I charge to full, leave it on my nightstand overnight off charge, I wake up 6 or 7 hours later and lose *maybe* 1% per hour. That's with wifi, bluetooth, gps all on etc.
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And you've made my expectations even better, because I am using 5Ghz band all the time!
I will turn off WiFi now and give it a try! Thank you guys!
I will then test 2.4Ghz WiFi to see if it's really only 5Ghz WiFi that's causing the problems
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I must say you've revived my spirit! I am always using WiFi in order to save mobile traffic, it's on even when screen's off.
And you've made my expectations even better, because I am using 5Ghz band all the time!
I will turn off WiFi now and give it a try! Thank you guys!
I will then test 2.4Ghz WiFi to see if it's really only 5Ghz WiFi that's causing the problems
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that this fixes the issue. Additionally I should have noted, the person who suggested I use the 2.4 band instead of the 5 specifically noted that there is a documented "bug" where 5g wifi bands cause significant drain. That's apparently the reason that 5g specifically tends to be the culprit.
cL0uD` said:
I must say you've revived my spirit! I am always using WiFi in order to save mobile traffic, it's on even when screen's off.
And you've made my expectations even better, because I am using 5Ghz band all the time!
I will turn off WiFi now and give it a try! Thank you guys!
I will then test 2.4Ghz WiFi to see if it's really only 5Ghz WiFi that's causing the problems
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I have a similar problem as well. I have had wifi turned off all day today and its at the top of the list on battery usage. I have looked at every possible wifi option and turned it off. I dont understand what could be causing this. Im only bootloader unlocked, non-rooted, running stock image MRA58K
dcjose48 said:
I have a similar problem as well. I have had wifi turned off all day today and its at the top of the list on battery usage. I have looked at every possible wifi option and turned it off. I dont understand what could be causing this. Im only bootloader unlocked, non-rooted, running stock image MRA58K
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When you set it up did you set it to allow it to keep wifi scanning even when it is off for the location settings? I leave my wifi on 99% of the time and my battery life is great.
zelendel said:
When you set it up did you set it to allow it to keep wifi scanning even when it is off for the location settings? I leave my wifi on 99% of the time and my battery life is great.
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I dont remember if I did but I did turn that setting off when I was trying to diagnose the issue. I don't know if maybe it's a 6.0 bug that needs to be fixed. Good thing that being a nexus I hope it won't take too long.
I updated the firmware on my router and after doing thus none of my devices would enter power save mode on the 5ghz radio anymore and drain is now massive (check your router logs)
I tried flashing back to the prior firmware but still no go, so it must have been a driver update on the Quantanna radio as that's the only thing that was updated and it's a known issue with my particular model.
That helped me! Thank you guys! I connected to 2.4 Ghz and lost only 6% overnight!
I wish this information was easier to find, I'll update first post when I get home, it'll probably be useful to a lot of people.
l0ud_sil3nc3 said:
I updated the firmware on my router and after doing thus none of my devices would enter power save mode on the 5ghz radio anymore and drain is now massive (check your router logs)
I tried flashing back to the prior firmware but still no go, so it must have been a driver update on the Quantanna radio as that's the only thing that was updated and it's a known issue with my particular model.
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It is a known issue with Quantenna radios on multiple routers; my ASUS RT-AC87 is one of them. Specifically as you said, on the 5GHz band. Switching to 2.4GHz wireless can fix this for the time being on Quantenna-based routers.
I've also had times where my battery seemed to have excessive drain if the cell signal dropped to non-existent; the N6 appears to drain fairly quickly searching for a signal. Unfortunately, AT&T occasionally drops in my house, and that's the carrier my work is on, so I have to live with it.

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