[Q] Getting software updates for grey import - HTC Butterfly S

I live in Australia and if I purchase a grey imported HTC Butterfly S from Australian online retailers (e.g. Mobicity and Kogan) will I be able to get OTA software updates?
Since the phone haven't officially been released in Australia, does that mean that mobile carriers can't be bothered to run tests and then push out the OTA software updates?

capeta27 said:
I live in Australia and if I purchase a grey imported HTC Butterfly S from Australian online retailers (e.g. Mobicity and Kogan) will I be able to get OTA software updates?
Since the phone haven't officially been released in Australia, does that mean that mobile carriers can't be bothered to run tests and then push out the OTA software updates?
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As a rule of thumb, carriers only affect the update process of those phones they sell on contract. If you haven't bought your phone on contract from a carrier, then you're going to receive all updates directly from the manufacturer, i.e. HTC.

koniiiik said:
As a rule of thumb, carriers only affect the update process of those phones they sell on contract. If you haven't bought your phone on contract from a carrier, then you're going to receive all updates directly from the manufacturer, i.e. HTC.
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Sweeettt thanks! :good:

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[Q] [Guide] Buying HTC One International

Hi Everyone
I am thinking of buying latest release form HTC i.e Htc One form Australia. I am getting it at low price online form DirectBargains.com.au but i am afraid whether it will work in USA. Does my warranty
only valid in Australia or Worldwide ?
alex252 said:
Hi Everyone
I am thinking of buying latest release form HTC i.e Htc One form Australia. I am getting it at low price online form DirectBargains.com.au but i am afraid whether it will work in USA. Does my warranty
only valid in Australia or Worldwide ?
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If you purchased your One from Australia, it will only have regional warranty. So if any problems occur, you will have to bring it back to HTC Australia and get it repaired. That is only available if the place where you intend to purchase is an authorized dealer.
Australia HTC One will not work completely with USA network. It will certainly lose 4G LTE compatibility and will have reduced reception due to different radio requencies used in USA and Australia.

[Q] Purchasing a One in the UK

Hi all,
I am travelling to the UK this summer (I live in Israel), and after making great use out of my Desire for almost 3 years, I feel it's time for an upgrade. Now, I have checked a number of shops that offer the phone, however the prices vary by about £10-£20 (Clove, Handtec, Phones4U - even O2, but it's SIM locked for 12 months). So I'm at a loss as to where to order from. Maybe Amazon.co.uk?
After purchasing the device, does anyone know whether or not I can claim VAT back (due to not living in the EU)? That would save a few extra £'s..
I am also concerned about the network bands it uses - I think the one I need is the 801n (900/2100 3G) - do all vendors in the UK sell this particular variant? Also, is this rumour about a 64GB device even worth holding my breath for? 32GB could definitely be more than enough...
Finally, warranty - if anything happens (touch wood that it doesn't), would sending the device via airmail back to the UK be sufficient for warranty purpose? Or is it void if I live outside of the UK?
Many thanks for all help provided
I do not know about the other questions, but you will not be able to claim VAT back in the UK. I believe the UK is the only country you cannot do that in; I have done it in France, Sweden, Germany and some others, but not in the UK. One question, though, how are you going to buy a device that is sim locked for 12 months, or in other words, how are you going to buy a contract-locked device if you do not actually live there? Wouldn't they require green cards, credit cards, proof of residence and such? Or at least that's how it was with AT&T and the iPhone.
Well I figured that the pay&go offer meant you didn't need an address..
Regardless, the vat and sim locked version are the last of my worries compared to the other questions.
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rafithegreat said:
Well I figured that the pay&go offer meant you didn't need an address..
Regardless, the vat and sim locked version are the last of my worries compared to the other questions.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2
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Most of the sellers you have listed sell sim unlocked versions of the One but I don't know how the prices compare to those you have.
I have purchased phones from both Handtec (online) and Carphone Warehouse (in store) and always pay for sim unlocked.
As to the model the ones available in the UK will be the M7-UL 801n which is the international variant and should be fine for most of the world but you will need to check the frequencies available before purchase.
Hey again..
I just checked, and it seems that MobiCity have a UK website selling the 801S version, as well as a 64GB version!? :huh:
Does this even make sense? That's the Australian/Asian version AFAIK..

ONEPLUS 5

Hello,
Just wondering if anyone know if any UK providers (o2 ideally as that's who I have my OP3 with) will be stocking the OP5 from launch on contract? Not due for an upgrade but would happily cover the £300 left on my device plan to pick up the OP5.
o2 won't confirm anything but hoping there could be an inside-man (or woman) with some knowledge.
Thanks
No doubt o2 will stock it again since no one else has picked up the 3T
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Hello,
Just wondering if anyone know if any UK providers (o2 ideally as that's who I have my OP3 with) will be stocking the OP5 from launch on contract? Not due for an upgrade but would happily cover the £300 left on my device plan to pick up the OP5.
o2 won't confirm anything but hoping there could be an inside-man (or woman) with some knowledge.
Thanks
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I work for O2 as one of their instore technicians also have a Oneplus3, got it via oneplus.net before o2 announced the partnership and there is no news yet about anything related to Oneplus 5 probably due to the phone not being announced yet. Remember companies sign non disclosure agreements so it isn't exactly encouraged to talk about things not even announced to exist yet.
Cheers for the replies.
I spoke to LiveChat again today just to ask a question regarding pre-ordering the device once its announced (So I pay off the device plan and get the new OP5) and the reply I was given basically said when the device is announced on the site there will be instructions on how existing customers can pre-book the upcoming device.
From that it sounds like O2 are taking on the OP5 from launch!

Where is n950f btu uk update??

As per title, where is the new Note 8 Unlocked UK update? I'm still on August security patch when UK carrier specific networks started to get December update on the 10th December. It's now the end of 17th December... Have we been forgotten about do you think? lol... My S8+ was great running Oreo Beta 2 so this Note 8 seems a bit backward...
Reason I ask is because I am hoping this update fixes an issue I am having with notifications not coming through most of the time, I've checked and altered any battery optimisation and special access optimizations for certain apps but still no success so hoping the update triggers something to get this working like it should.
I have an unlocked still on august patch as well, my other one I got through Vodafone Ireland already got November patch and updates, wonder if they are leaving us waiting for Oreo on the international unlocked versions
ds980x said:
As per title, where is the new Note 8 Unlocked UK update? I'm still on August security patch when UK carrier specific networks started to get December update on the 10th December. It's now the end of 17th December... Have we been forgotten about do you think? lol... My S8+ was great running Oreo Beta 2 so this Note 8 seems a bit backward...
Reason I ask is because I am hoping this update fixes an issue I am having with notifications not coming through most of the time, I've checked and altered any battery optimisation and special access optimizations for certain apps but still no success so hoping the update triggers something to get this working like it should.
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Is pending due to BREXIT...
But: you can flash "manually" with Odin:
OFFICIAL STOCK Firmware-update (Odin) thread Samsung GALAXY Note8 SM-N950F/DS
j_hansen said:
I have an unlocked still on august patch as well, my other one I got through Vodafone Ireland already got November patch and updates, wonder if they are leaving us waiting for Oreo on the international unlocked versions
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This Is most definitely the case
This is annoying me big time, pretty piss poor by Samsung
I was just seeing if it was me that hadn't got the update. I'm still on August.
Meanwhile, the Note 5 is getting the December update...
Don't blame Samsung for that, but the UK operators -> THEY have to approve the FW first before it's rolling out to the devices!
The december update is available but still "on hold" for UK-devices (BTU & XEU)
BTU/XEU : 1AQI1 (August)
O2U : 1AQK9 (November)
EVR : 1AQK9 (November)
VOD : 1AQK9 (November)
H3G : 1AQK9 (November)
But: instead of complaining here, why not flash the latest FW yourself (2BQKG) with Odin?
BTU/XEU are the codes for the direct from Samsung models. They are operator free. So there is no approval from the operators needed. I personally think someone at Samsung just forgets to hit a publish button as they don't get an approval they don't need.
By any standard August is the only BTU available, and that's poor for a flagship with a company that promised monthly security updates.
Yeah still no update on the 23rd DEC, I did see EE UK only just got it on the 19th and that probably makes up the last in the UK to get it now... Flashing via Odin means fresh install dosnt it? I guess even if an OTA update dosnt resolve my notification issues, a fresh install probably would be the best bet anyway.
Wouldn't flashing my non-carrier device with a carrier specific 2BQKG firmware potentially riddle my device with carrier bloat? Better off waiting if thats the case! Anything new in 2BQKG over 1AQK9?
Just updated to 2BQKG via Odin without losing anything, wish I did this sooner!
I'm in UK on ee and the update came out today ota 46.87mb
Hi
I ve bought a Note 8 device unlocked as the seller said and when i got home i noticed that is blocked. When i check what provider is on i found BTU. So if can someone please help me what network provider i should contact?
Thanks a lot for your help and support
BTU is a generic code so it's not carrier assigned.
You need to contact the seller and get your money back as it will be impossible to find out why it was blocked in the first place.
P.S. If you're ever buying a second hand phone ask the seller for the IMEI before you part with any cash and check it online to see if it's blocked first. If the seller won't give you the IMEI then just walk away.
BTU
Hi
The seller blocked me and can t get in touch with him snymore. I think he has an insurance and report his phone lost. How can i find out which provider is on?
kradcliffe said:
BTU is a generic code so it's not carrier assigned.
You need to contact the seller and get your money back as it will be impossible to find out why it was blocked in the first place.
P.S. If you're ever buying a second hand phone ask the seller for the IMEI before you part with any cash and check it online to see if it's blocked first. If the seller won't give you the IMEI then just walk away.
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kradcliffe said:
BTU is a generic code so it's not carrier assigned.
You need to contact the seller and get your money back as it will be impossible to find out why it was blocked in the first place.
P.S. If you're ever buying a second hand phone ask the seller for the IMEI before you part with any cash and check it online to see if it's blocked first. If the seller won't give you the IMEI then just walk away.
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Or better still write down the IMEI number put your sim card in the phone and call your provider to have the device added to your account .
How many providers does your region have? Call all of them.
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I called them up and none told me that they blocked the device. They said only the owner can unblock the phone. But as i said he blocked me on phone, whats app and Facebook. Is there any chance to find out who is the provider blocked the phone?
Thanks a lot for your help and support.
golden_relya said:
I called them up and none told me that they blocked the device. They said only the owner can unblock the phone. But as i said he blocked me on phone, whats app and Facebook. Is there any chance to find out who is the provider blocked the phone?
Thanks a lot for your help and support.
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Install ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
However the chances are you are using an unlocked UK/Ireland model which may have been bought from a retailer or Samsung direct and then insured via a third party insurer. The third party insurer would then request an IMEI block if the device was reported lost or stolen.
Sadly there is very little you can do as the device will likely be blocked from all networks in your country of residence, however there is a chance it could work outside of your country as other countries / carriers will have not blocked the IMEI.
Meaning you may be able to sell it on with the proviso / understanding the device is blocked in the UK or whatever country your currently residing.
How did you buy the device ? If you paid via PayPal or with a CC - you may be able to get a chargeback with your CC company if you report it as a fraudulent transaction (sold a dud device).
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I bought it on Shpock from a private seller. Now i found that the T mobile blocked the IMEI because it was a illegally purchase and the seller knew it this. I paid by cash unfortunately. The device was blocked by t mobile since December 2017. And i bought it few days ago.
you obviously bought a stolen phone, lesson learnt for you, buy cheap... buy twice....HA... HAAA..
that said, you could probably recover a few quid from selling it on a Russian buy/sell website
golden_relya said:
I bought it on Shpock from a private seller. Now i found that the T mobile blocked the IMEI because it was a illegally purchase and the seller knew it this. I paid by cash unfortunately. The device was blocked by t mobile since December 2017. And i bought it few days ago.
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So it was UK purchased. Looks like the networks share IMEI information. just sell it to the USA or mainland Europe, noting it's black listed in the UK. You should he able to get at least 60% of your money back. That is if it's really black listed and nothing else wrong with it .
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SAMSUNG Galaxy Note 8 (SM-N950F) Android 8 Oreo (beta) update?

Hello, is here a chance to install Android Oreo (beta) on SM-N950F? Thanks for answer.
Not until they release he Exynos version of Oreo. If you flash the Snapdragon version it's bricksville for you...
always late
Why samsung do take so long for updating the new firmwares??!!! Is there a chance to get it now?
ultramag69 said:
Not until they release he Exynos version of Oreo. If you flash the Snapdragon version it's bricksville for you...
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Nonis said:
Why samsung do take so long for updating the new firmwares??!!! Is there a chance to get it now?
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1. Cos they can...
2. No...
I haven't received an update since I bought the damn thing in Sept. ****e.
blame your carrier, not samsung
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
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jadaress1 said:
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
Sent from my SM-N950F using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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for a carrier free device this is strange! are you on stock fw, or did you root your device?
jadaress1 said:
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
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YES IT DOES! For UN-branded FW, ALL carriers must approve that FW for release!
Nonis said:
Why samsung do take so long for updating the new firmwares??!!! Is there a chance to get it now?
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Because Sammy OS is heavily modded to their linking so it will take time for them to get it all up and running and then testing and then some more testing.
jadaress1 said:
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
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Maybe you haven't check it. Because since November I bought it I had received 3 updates. Last one yesterday.
wase4711 said:
blame your carrier, not samsung
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why, I bought it directly from Samsung!
henklbr said:
YES IT DOES! For UN-branded FW, ALL carriers must approve that FW for release!
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If this is true, it makes perfect sense.
Not questioning your knowledge or honesty, but can you substantiate this statement, articles, links, 'knowledge base'?
Thanks
bonerp said:
why, I bought it directly from Samsung!
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carriers release updates to use on THEIR network; it doesnt matter one bit who you bought the phone from..
thats common knowledge in the cellular world.. Google is the only sometimes "exception", but if their phones are sold by any carrier, i.e. when t mobile sold the nexus 6, it was T Mobile who released/approved updates, NOT Google
wase4711 said:
carriers release updates to use on THEIR network; it doesnt matter one bit who you bought the phone from..
thats common knowledge in the cellular world.. Google is the only sometimes "exception", but if their phones are sold by any carrier, i.e. when t mobile sold the nexus 6, it was T Mobile who released/approved updates, NOT Google
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it does matter.
in Europe, if you don't get your phone through a carrier you get the F model.
while other variants get their updates through the carrier, F models always get their updates directly from Samsung.
until the note 8 the unbranded models(like the F models) where always first to get updates, because no carrier approval is needed.
edit: correction.
there are carrier specific F models, the carrier branding is in the csc in those cases.
any phone bought from Samsung directly or a store that isn't tied to a carrier will always have an "unbranded" csc in Europe.
thedicemaster said:
it does matter.
in Europe, if you don't get your phone through a carrier you get the F model.
while other variants get their updates through the carrier, F models always get their updates directly from Samsung.
until the note 8 the unbranded models(like the F models) where always first to get updates, because no carrier approval is needed.
edit: correction.
there are carrier specific F models, the carrier branding is in the csc in those cases.
any phone bought from Samsung directly or a store that isn't tied to a carrier will always have an "unbranded" csc in Europe.
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Agree, for SM-N950F
XSA got update several days ago, but VAU just got update today
Hmm, it seems something is coming soon -> https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote8/comments/7o5vao/so_the_exynos_note_8_at_work_randomly_got_oreo/

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