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hello my fellow tab geeks.
a few weeks back, i purchased the official samsung galaxy capacitive stylus but really am not very impressed with it and just wanted to see if others feel the same way.
i've tried several stylus before for my prev iPad and none of them moved very smoothly across the surface due to the requirements of a capacitive screen, etc.
anywho, from using it for a few days; it seemed to stick more to the screen than move smoothly and in turn made any fast note taking impossible. i could never duplicate the accuracy of using a pen on paper.
are all capacitive stylus basically plagued with this problem?
now i remember the advantages of resistive screens. if only someone would finally make both on their tablets.. hmmm...
any feedback would be great! thanks!
I think it's one of the downsides of capacitive screens. I bought a boxwave stylus and it's got issues even though it had the best reviews. You need a lot of surface area contact to make a capacitive screen work.
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sparkyxda said:
I think it's one of the downsides of capacitive screens. I bought a boxwave stylus and it's got issues even though it had the best reviews. You need a lot of surface area contact to make a capacitive screen work.
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thanks for your input kind of what i thought.
seamonkey420 what stylus are you talking about? please give me a link.
I bought the BoxWave stylus too and quite like it. It does require some pressure to get enough contact to work correctly but as the end is so soft it's not a strain. Once I got used to it I prefer the stylus over using my finger for most tasks and it has the added advantage that the screen remains clean. Obviously you need to revert for fingers for pinch-zoom and any other multitouch gesture though.
ayman07 said:
seamonkey420 what stylus are you talking about? please give me a link.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S100CBEGSTA
Galaxy Tab™ Conductive StylusET-S100CBEG
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...any feedback would be great! thanks!
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I bought the same stylus with the intent of using it for a drawing app I have on the Tab. I, too, was disappointed. It takes quite a bit of pressure to get a solid line, otherwise it would skip here and there along the line. It worked ok for just moving through screens or typing, but for doing any kind of useful sketching or drawing it was pretty much useless.
Maplins do one that has a soft tip - but it's no substitute for a finger....
bought these over at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3pcs-Stylus-Tou...196333?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf4a8796d
not bad and i do need to put some pressure on it but since they have a soft point im not concerned
Losing your capacity
I also noticed that if you hold the stylus anywhere but in contact with the metal band, it doesn't track at all. Sometimes you want to hold it further back.
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Targus stylus
I got the targus stylus and it works on the iPad and galaxy s but struggles with the galaxy tab. I'm a bit disappointed. Must be a different kind of capacitive screen. Writing with it on the iPad is like writing on paper. Very smooth and quick to get used to.
Anyone had any better luck with styli on the g tab?
jimmyjack72 said:
I got the targus stylus and it works on the iPad and galaxy s but struggles with the galaxy tab. I'm a bit disappointed. Must be a different kind of capacitive screen. Writing with it on the iPad is like writing on paper. Very smooth and quick to get used to.
Anyone had any better luck with styli on the g tab?
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Only stylus that works is stock one only works well but digs a hole in your pocker
Got any old HDD bags laying around?
If you wrap a cut off of it around the end of a pen you have a cheap stylus and it works brilliantly on my legend
It's also a very smooth plastic so I haven't had it bog down on me at all.
Dagi stylus
I ordered a Dagi stylus after seeing a demo on a Galaxy Tab that made it look smooth. There's a few different models, so I'm hoping they have catered to the slightly different capacitive screen on the Galaxy to that of other devices.
If it was a faked video I have a stylus for my iPad.
trust me .. your fingers are working better . stylus are crap just to sell and get some profit from it thats all ..
and if you wanna a fast smoothy screen flash new rom
50-3 said:
Got any old HDD bags laying around?
If you wrap a cut off of it around the end of a pen you have a cheap stylus and it works brilliantly on my legend
It's also a very smooth plastic so I haven't had it bog down on me at all.
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Yay for raising dead threads!
Could you elaborate more on "HDD Bags" I'm curious
Could you elaborate more on "HDD Bags" I'm curious
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He means antistatic plastic bags used to protect sensitive electronics,
usually silver or silvery like appearance
I just tried with the top of a microscrewdrive, it works surprisingly well
thanks 50-3 for the tip
PBL1 said:
He means antistatic plastic bags used to protect sensitive electronics,
usually silver or silvery like appearance
I just tried with the top of a microscrewdrive, it works surprisingly well
thanks 50-3 for the tip
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OH! I might have a few of those kicking about, thanks!
The foam tipped ones I tried in the shops were all rubbish. Not even worth a £.
GT \m/ I loves it
Of course there are fine tipped options out there, but no palm rejection and no levels of pressure sensitivity. Also, right when I thought I found the savior (Yufu Pro).. it was suppose to ship out mid 2014 and it is pushed back to early 2015. WTF? They won't even to respond to anyone I hear. It looks really promising, but I cannot wait any longer. It's not like I did not give different pens their fair shot. I recently purchased the long awaited Alupen which has a ultra fine tip housed in a thick body which I didn't mind, but couldn't find a glove that blocked my palm and finger input/did not want to wear a glove when I draw. Another note is there are no buttons so when I want to erase or undo it is a huge pain is the butt. And the thick point pen options are not accurate in my opinion as well as all the issues the Alupen has (one plus to note is no battery needed). Fine tip is worth it.
Is it too much to ask for a Slim Pen that has pressure sensitivity, bluetooth integration of course (My Tab S 8.4 has Bluetooth LE for goodness sake), at least 2 buttons, maybe an eraser tip, and most importantly a fine accurate point. They make them for the Ipad all the freaking time for years now. Ipad has a damn Cintiq highly accurate/quality pen that works flawlessly. It's not like our hardware is different. What issues prevent companies from saving us? Hardware? Software? SDK? Resolution? Latency? Android Phobia? I would love a detailed explanation. We even have high quality apps that can utilize all of these functionalities I have listed and more that I probably haven't even thought of. I have searched far and wide Google/XDA/YouTube and no luck so far. If there are good alternatives I'd love to help people like me who want to take notes or draw.
Wish Samsung could have just included the S-Pen :/
Could you use a Galaxy Note pen or something like that?
I see that hex3 site is selling Yufu Pro now. DO check..
Check all apps support this pen?
Wacom have released some tablet pens for not too much I think I saw?
Looking for serious note users. Was wondering the best s pen to use for longer writing sessions. I have tried the one with my note 12.2 pro and the one with my note 8.0 . Looking for some ideas. I thought I saw someone using the tab 3 s pen in a thread but I can't seem to find it. I like the larger style better for sure, for longer writing sessions.
Thanks
Maybe surface pen will work?
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My tab s3 s-pen works.
Steadler pen/pencil
Any Wacom Digitizer pen will work .. eveny my 1st Gen surface pen works
Apple Pencil maybe ?
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Apple Pencil maybe ?
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Really......
No apple stuff for me. Anyways, thanks for the ideas.i have ordered a tab3 s pen and a staedtler pencil from Amazon. Will see how this goes.
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nuclearrage said:
Really......
No apple stuff for me. Anyways, thanks for the ideas.i have ordered a tab3 s pen and a staedtler pencil from Amazon. Will see how this goes.
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Sorry could not resist.
But seriosly the Apple Pencii is really great. I use it at work together with my iPad. It is close to normal writing on paper
From past experience not all wacom pens are fully compatible
The wacom stylus feel for galaxy note is compatible, same size and diameter as a full length pen, very hefty (weight and size), has a mechanical feel to it, ironically i personally never did like how it felt in the hand.
The wacom smart for galaxy note is also compatible, have not tried this one so no personal experience
And finally the s-pen from the galaxy tab S3, which actually is a really nice pen, it's about 3/4 length of a standard pencil, though it's feels a little light in the hand it has a really nice textured finished on the whole barrel (feels like rubber). I personally think it's size and weight is perfect for the note 8.
Been doing some research on this as well. Wacom Styluses using EMR technology will work on our Notes, but not newer technology. This is why only the first and second generation Surface pens work, but not the 3rd generations or newer. The newest Wacom Intuos styluses will also not work.
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Been doing some research on this as well. Wacom Styluses using EMR technology will work on our Notes, but not newer technology. This is why only the first and second generation Surface pens work, but not the 3rd generations or newer. The newest Wacom Intuos styluses will also not work.
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For the note line of devices Wacom actually uses what they term as "penabled" technology, only penabled compatible devices will work (these tend to be screens that support both capacitive touch and EMR pen). Gen 1 and 2 surface pro were using wacom penabled tech, microsoft brought N-Trig and used that tech for gen 3 onward (it's actually an active pen which requires AAAA batteries to work).
samsung XE700T1A slate 7 line had a full size pen (though some what slim), it was lightweight and had an eraser on the end (note 8 does not seems to recognize the function and acts like a pointer, but have not exhaustively tested against all apps). The Fujitsu lifebooks ive been told supported a pen with 2 buttons, but not had opportunity to test these out. Other notable makers are Asus with it's EEE Slate (full size pen) and lenovo (mini pen, slightly smaller than the galaxy tab S3)
Just a reminder for the OP: when using 3rd party pens, make sure to turn off "Spen detection" in power saving settings. The Note will ignore pen taps when that is enabled and an Spen is in the silo, so you'd think that the new pen is not working.
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Just a reminder for the OP: when using 3rd party pens, make sure to turn off "Spen detection" in power saving settings. The Note will ignore pen taps when that is enabled and an Spen is in the silo, so you'd think that the new pen is not working.
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Oh.... That's what happened. I was wondering why it wouldn't work without the original s pen removed.
Thanks!!
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But wouldn't keeping the screen energized for s-pen at all times, use extra battery power? And let me say from the beginning I have no idea if it's substantial amount or not to even worry about.
Yes keeping the screen active will drain some battery, though I don't think by very much as it will still sleep when screen sleeps.
Can also confirm eraser on the Samsung slate 7 pen will work as an eraser if the app can accomodate, sketchbook, Samsung note and artflow will utilise eraser, surprisingly OneNote and Photoshop sketch does not
Got the tab 3 s pen yesterday , what a difference. Feels good and no cramps after lots of writing. I would put up with the Note 8 being a bigger phone if they could fit this full size s pen in it! Today will see how much battery it uses since I set the the phone ro always detect so I don't have to pull the original s pen out.
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Ok also got the steadler pencil as well. Works great, a little larger but just like holding and old school pencil. I really like both! Also , after 2 days now, I can tell no difference in battery life leaving the phone set to always detect s pen. I couldn't find a specific item in the battery menu that looked like the wacom screen, but really still awesome battery.
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Which one do you prefer nuclearrage? Found no comparison of these 3 together!
- Samsung Galaxy Note 8 s pen
- Samsung Tab S3 s pen
- Steadler digital pencil
I also own a Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and just love it! I use a S Pen Holder Kit so that if feels like a real pen. It has a et-s100ewegstd S Pen, which is the 1st S Pen ever released for the Note 1. I like it a lot, but not as precise as the original S Pen that comes with the note pro 12.2.
Would also the 2 other Samsung s pens work with the 12.2 ?
Thanks!
Marco
nuclearrage said:
Got the tab 3 s pen yesterday , what a difference. Feels good and no cramps after lots of writing. I would put up with the Note 8 being a bigger phone if they could fit this full size s pen in it! Today will see how much battery it uses since I set the the phone ro always detect so I don't have to pull the original s pen out.
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I don't know what u need the all this writing for but if u use it for school or work then I would use a tablet. I still got my beloved note 10.1 tablet and use it at work for quick notes for my daily report.
I wouldn't use a phone for lots of writing as it's too small to write longer S.A's and I can only imagine the annoyance of doing so.
Maybe keep an eye out if Sammy releases a new note tablet in the future if you find the note 10.1 to outdated.
Not that the above has anything to do with spen alternatives but just my two cents.
Zionator said:
I don't know what u need the all this writing for but if u use it for school or work then I would use a tablet. I still got my beloved note 10.1 tablet and use it at work for quick notes for my daily report.
I wouldn't use a phone for lots of writing as it's too small to write longer S.A's and I can only imagine the annoyance of doing so.
Maybe keep an eye out if Sammy releases a new note tablet in the future if you find the note 10.1 to outdated.
Not that the above has anything to do with spen alternatives but just my two cents.
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I have a note 12.2 , not waterproof and doesn't fit in my pocket. I use the spen for lots of notes , work and play. I also have little rite in the rain notepads when I am really roughing it. Just a personal preference.
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Anyone know if the s5e keyboard case works with the tab s6?
I like the form factor of the old case better and wonder if there is any difference in the pogo pin configuration. Any one have one to try?
I am also interested
I went to Best Buy to see if the 5SE Case would work with the TAB S6 and while the size is the same it will probably fit - the camera cut out is different - the Tab 5SE has a single camera and the TAB s6 has a double camera. So if the camera is not a big deal for you, it appears the case for the 5SE would work -
I am looking for a case that is a stable like the 5SE - but that has the correct Camera Cut out - no luck so far - but hoping someone knows where to find one? (the Logitech case I found doesn't have any camera cut out....so not sure there is one that is going to work - at least not yet)
I went to Best Buy today and the pins all line up on the S5e keyboard, but the magnet apparently do not. The Tab S6 will not "lock" in the dock over the pins.
Any one else tried this? I've ordered a S5se keyboard hoping it will fit.
Why? Well ...
I like the new keyboard for the Esc/PgUp/PgDn/Home/End buttons but hate pretty much everything else about it. With the kickstand out it takes up a lot more space i.e it doesn't fit on an airplane seat-tray so there goes working or writing on a plane. Stuck on the back inelegantly. Samsung should also have copied the iPad and had the pen on top with magnets rather than the unsightly bulge on the back.
The keyboard for the Tab S4 was great but no Esc/PgUp/PgDn/Home/End buttons.
Could live without the mousepad for a better form-factor. Always use a bluetooth mouse when I need a mouse anyway.
I like the form of the older keyboard also. When I tried it, the keyboard from the s5e would not attach to the tab s6. Let us know what you fing.
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I was actually hoping kinda the opposite. I was hoping the Tab S6 keyboard would work for the S5e. Honestly, the only thing keeping the tablet from being perfect for me is the absence of the trackpad.
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I was actually hoping kinda the opposite. I was hoping the Tab S6 keyboard would work for the S5e. Honestly, the only thing keeping the tablet from being perfect for me is the absence of the trackpad.
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Well, I can update. The S6 does *NOT* work in the S5e keyboard cover.
not work
1. The magnets don't line up -- but worse they actually PUSH the S6 out so you can't even rest there but have to physically hold it in place.
2. Even if you do hold it in place. The keyboard is not detected and simply does nothing.
Shame for me ... thought about buying the S5e but no S-PEN. Don't care about the trackpad, I can use a BT mouse at my desk.
Oh well, so close Samsung. I find myself using a an iPad Pro 11" more and more
Galaxy Book 2
If you the would've made the Galaxy Book 2 in an android version. Or even better an updated version that dual boots Windows 10 and android, freakin dream machine right there.
Fyi the s5e charging dock does work with the s6, so there's that at least.
So dumb they reversed the magnets to repel the tablet. Sorry, you are only allowed laptop like productivity if you buy our most expensive product. F you. I already have a note 10+. I don't need the pen on my tablet. But I'd love to have something productive that's smaller than my Pixelbook. I realize this as I never use the pen on my S4, but I get annoyed at navigating and editing on its track pad-less keyboard.
Six generations it took to put a track pad on a keyboard when they've had cursor control from the get go. Just dumb. I'd get a Surface go, but it's just under spec'd.
I was thrilled today to discover that T-Mobile is now offering the Galaxy Tab s6 for sale in their stores. I've had a separate data plan with them for a few years since they had a promotion where you could get 5 Gb for $10.00 a month. I've been happily using my T-Mobile Galaxy Tab S2 with keyboard case for years, but also wishing that Samsung would release an updated tablet with a case that included a mouse pad. And then the Tab S6 did. But I've been reading some really bad things about the way that the case attaches to the tablet. Rather than magnets or snaps (like the S2) the Samsung keyboard case seems to attach with some weird suction cup, and many of the reviews I've read say that the case loses suction and won't stay on for long.
What's been the experience of users on this forum who own the case? I'm really quite dismayed because the Tab S6 was shaping up to be the perfect replacement for my aging S2. Is the case really as bad as the negative reviews would have you believe?
It will stay attached as long as the back of the TAB is clean, however, I would rate it no more then 7 out of 10 for overall usage.
Sammie sometimes want to 'over engineer' things so they are innovating everywhere IMHO. The mousepad works well, but, if you're going to use the Kybd case on the move you really need a sheath cover as well to put it into as the back can move if knocked, which then risks the pen falling off and getting lost.
I don't regret buying it, but wouldn't use it without the extra cover.
I only received my tab s6 and case this afternoon so a very first experience, but I actually like it so far... I find it types nicer then my s3. It seems to be stuck firmly (and I carry it in a bag anyway so no risk of loosing stuff there). Perhaps after a few days my experiences might change, but so far so good.
Where the S3 case only had one position and was not very flexible, the s6 one is a great improvement in that aspect. The connection is more flexible and the stand also can be put in just about any position. I read a review about it not being usable on a lap, but sitting on the couch typing this now and no issues at all.
I also like thatI can take off the keyboard part and the back plate is still stuck on (For example when using the pen I see this as a nice option).
I loved the S3 and Ilike the S6 so far as well. I think I did/do prefer the aspect ratio of the S3 but ok...
THe main thing I miss so far is a home button on the keboard
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I only received my tab s6 and case this afternoon so a very first experience, but I actually like it so far... I find it types nicer then my s3. It seems to be stuck firmly (and I carry it in a bag anyway so no risk of loosing stuff there). Perhaps after a few days my experiences might change, but so far so good.
Where the S3 case only had one position and was not very flexible, the s6 one is a great improvement in that aspect. The connection is more flexible and the stand also can be put in just about any position. I read a review about it not being usable on a lap, but sitting on the couch typing this now and no issues at all.
I also like thatI can take off the keyboard part and the back plate is still stuck on (For example when using the pen I see this as a nice option).
I loved the S3 and Ilike the S6 so far as well. I think I did/do prefer the aspect ratio of the S3 but ok...
THe main thing I miss so far is a home button on the keboard
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I , too, find that missing the Home button is a bit strange. Although META + ENTER can do the same, but not convenient.
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To add to this: The "suction cups" seem to get their name or reference because they resemble the sticky/gummy cup material on car phone holders. These are gummy adhesive strips. Some have complained that their case will fall off. This only happens when the strips are dirty. If it should happen, all you need to do is clean! Clean the back of the tab and carefully clean the strips with mild soap and water. Allow them to dry and put it back on. I bought mine on launch day and my cover has been on ever since without issue.
As for the keyboard - For my use case, I write on the tablet with the Spen 70% of the time, use the on-screen keyboard with 20% of the time and the keyboard the remaining 10%. I'm glad I have the keyboard when I use it and I find that it types very nicely.
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I , too, find that missing the Home button is a bit strange. Although META + ENTER can do the same, but not convenient.
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Pro tip: META + / brings up a list of keyboard shortcuts for both the Android system and the in-focus app. I'm a fan of META + n and META + backspace as well. Not all apps explicitly support keyboard shortcuts and sometimes apps with shortcuts haven't documented them in this menu but it is super handy to have around when using the right app. Try it out with Gmail, Chrome, Docs apps to get a good look at it in action.