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Hey i am using my note for a year now, and my phones battery got swelled, with some discussion on xda i was adviced to replace my battery which i did with another original samsungs battery. Now this new battery is charging and discharging fine, and is giving me an on screen time of 5 hours with constant messaging and music and some browsing, the issue that i am having is of battery indication and screen flickering.
First the screen flickering issue, whenever i am below 20 % my screen starts to flicker and it keeps on flickering till the phone dies, sometimes even at 15%. Then when i tried to charge it, it charges from 0.
At times when i partially charge my phone, say i am on 50% and then when i unplug my phone at 60%, it then shows 75% indication but then the flickering starts at 30% and phone dies at 26%.
The battery is giving average time so i think its not a battery issue or maybe it is.
But then i mostly found it a battery indication issue, i read multiple threads and even wiped my battery status. but the issue is the same.
may be give it a few charging cycles.. charge it from 0 to 100 with phone off.. till it says completely charged.. then check the performance..
Maybe you bought a faulty battery!?! did you bought the orignal samsung battery?
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Maybe you bought a faulty battery!?! did you bought the orignal samsung battery?
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replace my battery which i did with another original samsungs battery.
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He said he did
so the battery is in 6 month warranty ask for a replacement
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Your phone is just a mirage as are all of your flaming posts.
you sure its original, some fake ones out there, Id still bring it back If I were you
Well yes its from samsungs outlet, dated and stamped.. otherwise the battery indicators and every other stat is good. On full charge it has 4.320 V. Discharging equally to 2.8 V. But indications is not going according to the drain and flickering at low %.
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qazibasit said:
Well yes its from samsungs outlet, dated and stamped.. otherwise the battery indicators and every other stat is good. On full charge it has 4.320 V. Discharging equally to 2.8 V. But indications is not going according to the drain and flickering at low %.
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I am having a similar issue where my screen will flicker for a minute and then immediately turn off and charge from 0%. I was wondering if it could be a kernel issue as my battery is the stock battery and has never had problems before (I am on XXLSC). To me it looks like the battery is not getting enough power (hence the flickering) and then turns off. Sometimes if I turn off my phone as soon as it starts to flicker and I wait 10-15 minutes I can turn it back on no problem, other times it will just die. I have tried clearing battery stats, and was going to try my spare battery but apparently that swelled in storage.
Good luck in figuring it out! I will report back if I find anything new.
qazibasit said:
Well yes its from samsungs outlet, dated and stamped.. otherwise the battery indicators and every other stat is good. On full charge it has 4.320 V. Discharging equally to 2.8 V. But indications is not going according to the drain and flickering at low %.
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4320volt, interesting, I think its faulty, its off about 120 volts. If it depletes at a higher voltage, it looks like something is astray with the meter/level indication or battery
baz77 said:
4320volt, interesting, I think its faulty, its off about 120 volts. If it depletes at a higher voltage, it looks like something is astray with the meter/level indication or battery
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Sorry for the confusion it actually was 4320 mV or 4.320 v when full charged.
Let me post some screen shots. The overall on screen time is around 5 hours. So the battery is giving a good timming.
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666fff said:
Your phone is just a mirage as are all of your flaming posts.
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App fanboys just enjoy their fixed batteries
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I have got a swollen battery.My note is 1 year old.It gets switched off immediately after the logo appears but somtimes works okay.I am on an asop rom.Is it the battery or the rom?
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jayOverkill said:
I have got a swollen battery.My note is 1 year old.It gets switched off immediately after the logo appears but somtimes works okay.I am on an asop rom.Is it the battery or the rom?
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This is the most common thing now. I have seen that the stock batteries are not lasting more than a year.
Just go ahead and buy a new battery. It surely is not the ROM
Is it gona blast or something? Lol coz I really need to use that phone untill new battery comes
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Same thing happened with me 2 months back. U need a battery change. I changed my battey and my phone is ok.
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Buy A new battery & everything will become normal
The same has happened with me. My Note is 13 Months old.
I was playing game AVP Evolution till late night. And in the morning battery died, I charged it to full 100% but as soon as i boot up with in 4 second the phone again switched off , No battery low warning nothing. It is really strange but the fact is that the Samsung battery are just die completely all of a sudden, unlike other phones battery which dies gradually as it looses power and all that ........
I ordered a new battery & everything is fine now.
My old battery is unable to boot my phone even for 5 sec.
I am running my note on the swollen battery for about 8 hours now xP.Sometimes it switch off as soon as I turn it on but rest of the time it runs just fine.Anyways I ordered a new battery.
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jayOverkill said:
Is it gona blast or something? Lol coz I really need to use that phone untill new battery comes
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likeliness of it "blasting"... not very likely.. possibility of it "blasting".. it is possible..
batteries just go bad... a battery is only solid for around 500 charges then they just start losing their charge faster. i mean we are using small computers so this is just going to happen more and more. different reasons could cause this.... use of phone (it is what its designed to do..lol), a "cell" could just go bad causing the swelling, the circuitry in the battery fails causing the swelling, your charger goes bad and takes the battery with it (i had a cat bite thru a cable and it ground out..next day the battery showed signs of swelling and within a week you couldnt snap the battery cover on)... etc....
use is up to the user and their needs... there is a danger of the battery shorting the phone out totally and it never working again too. its not something that happens often but it is a solid possibility, so basically use good judgement...
it's usually caused by over charged (u don't unplug the charger when it reach 100%).
I've been using my Note more than a year and my battery still flat as it is new.
razgard said:
it's usually caused by over charged (u don't unplug the charger when it reach 100%).
I've been using my Note more than a year and my battery still flat as it is new.
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i beg to differ... the batteries have smart circuitry to protect against this. overcharging has not been a problem for years... i personally have left one of my notes on charge for days... it always stays on charge for 5-6 hrs past it being 100% and it still is a strong battery.. also just because a battery is flat doesnt mean its good... the swelling just makes the fact it is going bad more obvious...
I agree with kawgirl
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When I charge my phone it reaches 99% and it remains there it never reaches a 100% charge.
And my led notification is always red never goes green.
Did anybody else notice this?
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Maybe you are using 3rd party application like Battery Motifier in which the settings of battery full is only set to 99%. I am using this application for charging my phone then this app notifies me once it was fully charge using a sound notification. Try to check your applications installed to your phone maube you have same kind of application or the likes... hopefully it helps
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Haven't installed anything out of the ordinary that would cause this.
Now I'm worried.
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I know for some Samsung devices they don't charge all they way. It is a measure used to save the battery
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My one did this but it was because I was using a Samsung charger (don't want to open charger or headphones in case of resale) so I tried my HTC one X charger and it went back to100%.
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I am using supplied charger, didn't see 100% yet.. But will see later on..
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I had to get an exchange for my first handset. It had major gaps, and battery never fully charged.
It seems it was due to a dodgy battery. Even if the phone was left on charge for 10 hours it still wouldn't fully charge, turned on or off.
If it gets really hot while trying to charge after 98% it may be the same thing, and you should possibly ask for an exchange, or get it checked out.
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spikeydoo2006 said:
I had to get an exchange for my first handset. It had major gaps, and battery never fully charged.
It seems it was due to a dodgy battery. Even if the phone was left on charge for 10 hours it still wouldn't fully charge, turned on or off.
If it gets really hot while trying to charge after 98% it may be the same thing, and you should possibly ask for an exchange, or get it checked out.
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How do you know the battery is at fault?
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Why not let the phone discharge until it shuts off, then try to completely charge it from empty. I had an atrix once that would only charge to 99 after most Rom installs until I did this. Always figured it was a battery calibration thing.
Interesting fact, Lithium-ion polymer batteries do not charge to 100% capacity by design. They are actually quite difficult to charge correctly (in the electrical engineering sense, it's still plug and charge for the end user) and it is not worth the additional hassle to get to a "true" full charge. What the phone reports as 100% is only 2-3% off of the theoretical max capacity so in practice the difference is not noticeable.
It's hard to say if this effect is whats responsible for what you're seeing, but it could be related. Another possibility is that you simply haven't let it trickle charge long enough to report 100%. The last few % charge of any phone battery is going to go at a much slower rate compared to 20-90% for example. Really the only thing you can do is the somewhat standard advice to get a full discharge/charge cycle in to let android re-calibrate itself.
this is normal, it eventually does it,m dont worry about it
sometimes if i use the phone whilst its on charge it turns green
im not bothered, 99% is good enough for me it trickles down at the end really slowly
even 95% is good enough i usually unplug it at 95
I had the same thing when I got my phone, I was using a cheapo micro usb charger that did not have the beans to charge the one.. it got to 99% always.
Switched to proper one with phone and voila green light & 100%
For the record an iPad 3 (aka "new" iPad) charger works if you swap the USB cable also.
I am using the charger that came with the phone, and it has been an hour on 99%, any advice? To the ones who reached the 100% mark, how long did you leave it at 99%?
Happened to me too, with stock charger.
Finally got it to completely charge. I let it discharge to 2 percent than charged it with the touchpad charger. Most probably the first step isn't required. The charger outputs 2A. Will try other chargers including pc usb..
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millicent said:
Happened to me too, with stock charger.
Finally got it to completely charge. I let it discharge to 2 percent than charged it with the touchpad charger. Most probably the first step isn't required. The charger outputs 2A. Will try other chargers including pc usb..
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Let me know how it works ok... Seems like maybe its a stock charger issue...or maybe i just need to let it discharge to less than 2% most i ever let it down to was 9%...keep me updated please...
i had that problem on my s2 with some custom roms. it would charge to 100% if i unplugged it rebooted and plugged it back in. also it went away after 1 or 2 battery cycles
Reboot device when at 98/99%, then it will show 100% for some reason.
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Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.
HRodMusic said:
let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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horr1blek1tten said:
How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
HRodMusic said:
well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?
i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.
The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.
So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!
Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it
My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!
My problem is that after charging to 100%, the battery drops to 95% after the course of about 10 minutes after unplugging the charger.
After reaching 95% the percentage would 'normalize' and discharging would occur on a more regular basis.
I have been experiencing this problem for the last 2 weeks or so.
It started happening suddenly, can't remember doing anything out of the ordinary to cause it to happen.
I tried letting it discharge to 1% then charge fully but the problem still occurs.
Even tried this app but still the problem exists.
Tried about 3 different ROMs also but still a no go.
Any advice about what can be done cause its driving me up a wall?
It's a known base bug and the only way I can think to 'fix' it is to charge your phone while it's off. I turn mine off when it's nearly fully charged.
Seriously nothing to worry about.
It's been reported many times now if you had used search
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Ok thanks. Will try charging with the phone off.
I am curious however how this started happening without me doing anything unusual.
I mean prior to this happening it was discharging normal.
It use to bug me too but I've had the same or better battery life in the end so it's all good.
Started happening when 4.3 base was introduced
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slymester123 said:
Ok thanks. Will try charging with the phone off.
I am curious however how this started happening without me doing anything unusual.
I mean prior to this happening it was discharging normal.
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Does this happen when you charge your phone overnight?
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n1234d said:
Does this happen when you charge your phone overnight?
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Well I never charge my phone overnight. I always unplug it when I go to sleep.
This occurs through regular charging
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Well I never charge my phone overnight. I always unplug it when I go to sleep.
This occurs through regular charging
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Try discharging completely, then charging completely while the phone is off, then start using it normally without intermittent charging. See how that goes.
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Try discharging completely, then charging completely while the phone is off, then start using it normally without intermittent charging. See how that goes.
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Hmm will try that but I've read that discharging comepletly can be dangerous.
slymester123 said:
Hmm will try that but I've read that discharging comepletly can be dangerous.
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You shouldn't do it always, but once or twice a month isn't harmful.
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I had the same thing happening with my sgs 1. Really nothing to worry about.
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What I find is I leave my phone and plugged in for at the very least 10 minutes after it reaches 100% and only then does it discharge normally.
Asides from that my phone also drops to 95%
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Didn't realise this problem was so prevalent.
Becoming less bothered about it now.
But will do a full drain and charge with it off on the weekend.
slymester123 said:
Didn't realise this problem was so prevalent.
Becoming less bothered about it now.
But will do a full drain and charge with it off on the weekend.
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I have the same issue and I usually do what "Jonny68" does and it works
I've read somewhere that it is intended like this by hTC to protect the battery
Tried the charging while off option, didn't let it discharge to 0% however but that seems to have worked as I finished charging about an hour ago and it is still at 100%.
Thanks everyone for their contribution.