Hey guys,
So, I've bought a generic HDMI DLNA dongle which allows me to throw pictures, music and video to the TV with the use of 3rd party apps, but I was however expecting something different and more integrated into the phone's OS.
By using the three finger upward swipe gesture the phone will search for the HTC Media Link HD dongle which gives a far more complete screen mirroring experience, however as I've just discovered it will not work with generic DLNA dongles and fails to find any sign of my dongle.
I assumed that the HTC dongle was also just a generic DLNA adapter, much like generic wifi or bluetooth dongles, so either there are physical differences with the HTC dongle required and not present in other generic dongles, or there is a software lock which only allows the official HTC Media Link HD to be used to screen mirror with the upward swipe gesture.
Does anyone else have any info on this subject which might allow the phone to spoof a generic dongle as the HTC dongle and give the same functionality as the HTC Media Link HD?
I have searched the forum to the best of my ability but can't find much on the subject other than 3rd party dongles using 3rd party apps.
Many thanks indeed
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Hi guys,
I've recently got a Playstation 3 and want a remote control. Now, like most of you I have a universal remote controlling all my other gear (TV, amplifier, fridge, etc). The remote offered by Sony is Bluetooth, not so helpful when I want to integrate it into my existing universal remote control (Logitech Harmony 525).
I was wondering if anyone has managed to find a decent IR option to plug into their PS3 - I know they exist, and I've heard mixed reviews.
I would ideally like all the functionality of a decent remote (so I can control my PS3 (turn on/off, eject and all other normal functions watching a DVD/blu-ray) using my universal remote control. So I would probably need to purchase some third-party (USB) IR device and integrate it into my Harmony 525. Not too much to ask?
Any recommendations guys?
Ray.
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Hi guys,
I've recently got a Playstation 3 and want a remote control. Now, like most of you I have a universal remote controlling all my other gear (TV, amplifier, fridge, etc). The remote offered by Sony is Bluetooth, not so helpful when I want to integrate it into my existing universal remote control (Logitech Harmony 525).
I was wondering if anyone has managed to find a decent IR option to plug into their PS3 - I know they exist, and I've heard mixed reviews.
I would ideally like all the functionality of a decent remote (so I can control my PS3 (turn on/off, eject and all other normal functions watching a DVD/blu-ray) using my universal remote control. So I would probably need to purchase some third-party (USB) IR device and integrate it into my Harmony 525. Not too much to ask?
Any recommendations guys?
Ray.
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Before you purchase anything download pocket blu if you have an android phone and its probably available for the iphone too.
Wait they have remote controls for fridge's?
ps3player said:
Hi guys,
I've recently got a Playstation 3 and want a remote control. Now, like most of you I have a universal remote controlling all my other gear (TV, amplifier, fridge, etc). The remote offered by Sony is Bluetooth, not so helpful when I want to integrate it into my existing universal remote control (Logitech Harmony 525).
I was wondering if anyone has managed to find a decent IR option to plug into their PS3 - I know they exist, and I've heard mixed reviews.
I would ideally like all the functionality of a decent remote (so I can control my PS3 (turn on/off, eject and all other normal functions watching a DVD/blu-ray) using my universal remote control. So I would probably need to purchase some third-party (USB) IR device and integrate it into my Harmony 525. Not too much to ask?
Any recommendations guys?
Ray.
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I realize this is a dumb question but I haven't been able to find the answer. If I install Android on a Raspberry Pi attached to my TV, how do I control it? Is there a way to use a regular remote control?
There is always the wireless Keyboard and Mouse option.
I believe you can also use multi-touch touchpads such as Wacom Bamboo.
LiFE1688 said:
There is always the wireless Keyboard and Mouse option.
I believe you can also use multi-touch touchpads such as Wacom Bamboo.
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Thanks for the reply.I was hoping to use a media center remote or something similar, but I assume none of the drivers will work.
If you want to control your RPi using a remote I wouldn't install Android (The current builds aren't that stable and are buggy at best). I would recommend taking a look at Raspbmc, it's Xbmc for the RPi and should be compatible with a variety of media remote controls.
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You can Use a Normal Mouse (And Keyboard)
Xbmc isn't really what I'm looking for. If a keyboard and mouse work, maybe someone will figure out how to use a remote.
When android is more polished I think you will have options
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Xbmc isn't really what I'm looking for. If a keyboard and mouse work, maybe someone will figure out how to use a remote.
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What are you looking for then? Since you want to drive it using an IR remote (I'm guessing), that typically indicates some sort of media center.
METDeath said:
What are you looking for then? Since you want to drive it using an IR remote (I'm guessing), that typically indicates some sort of media center.
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I run Windows Media Center on all my tv's with the Ceton Companion app to control it. Currently the app does not support streaming live tv but it is supposed to be in the works. When it finally supports streaming to android, I could build a small raspberry pi box and use it as an extender when I'm out of town. If nothing else I would finally have an excuse to buy one.
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I run Windows Media Center on all my tv's with the Ceton Companion app to control it. Currently the app does not support streaming live tv but it is supposed to be in the works. When it finally supports streaming to android, I could build a small raspberry pi box and use it as an extender when I'm out of town. If nothing else I would finally have an excuse to buy one.
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this is something like what I want, too. I would ultimately like to have an HTPC running android that supports video streaming, local media playback, live tv and streaming of everything above to all my connected devices.....like xbmc, but also with an option to use it as an android device when necessary. I don't want to have to use a mouse and keyboard for it either since my tv is too far away from the couch for that to be a reasonable option.....but mouse and kb support are still necessary for some things. IMHO, the best possible option would be a logitech remote that also has an on-screen pointer and motion controls like a wii remote has.
......come to think of it, an app supporting a wii remote to control android functions wouldn't exactly be a bad solution!!
you can use raspbmc instead of android if you are willing to use it as media center. it also has broader possibilities for choosing a remote.
http://www.raspbmc.com/wiki/user/configuring-remotes/
but i prefer this one most
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.xbmc.android.remote
enjoy !
I use a regular remote from my tv when i use raspmbc since it supports cec. The xbmc remote most people use through their Android device is specific for xbmc, so it wouldnt do much good with anything else. Droidmote isnt the prettiest but its functions well. Theres a lot of apps for remotes, that even take advantage of voice and nfc. So when Android is running stable enough, you will be able to take your pic. If your not interested in embedded hardware or other similar usages for the pi, you could always get a g box midnight or minix neo g4 or 5. There all dual core and come rooted with firmware updates that will give you JB and xbmc. There is a quad core one that is out or coming out and will come with JB and full hardware acceleration.
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In raspbmc u can use u tv pilot to control xbmc.
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IDroidmote isnt the prettiest but its functions well.
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You can also use Tablet Remote
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tournesol.tabletremote
or LANmote
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=lanmote
Yatse is a damn good remote for xbmc, it syncs your library list to your device, so you can scroll on device, links to imdb for movies,you can change audio tracks,dl subtitles, and all sorts of cool stuff. And it's free
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You can already stream to your ras pi from windows or wherever, I like prefer my tablet or phone. Download the app bubbleupnp from the playstore and it will populate a library of videos, music whatever you have on the device by selecting it as the local renderer and it will see the raspi then press play. Also some android apps like youtube for ex.you can just share it to the app and it will play on your tv connected to the pi. If I want a remote I use the official xmbc remote or if im using a win box to get the media ill use unified remote app. Which then gets cool cause you can use voice and all kinds of stuff.
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Hey guys,
So, I've bought a generic HDMI DLNA dongle which allows me to throw pictures, music and video to the TV with the use of 3rd party apps, but I was however expecting something different and more integrated into the phone's OS.
By using the three finger upward swipe gesture the phone will search for the HTC Media Link HD dongle which gives a far more complete screen mirroring experience, however as I've just discovered it will not work with generic DLNA dongles and fails to find any sign of my dongle.
I assumed that the HTC dongle was also just a generic DLNA adapter, much like generic wifi or bluetooth dongles, so either there are physical differences with the HTC dongle required and not present in other generic dongles, or there is a software lock which only allows the official HTC Media Link HD to be used to screen mirror with the upward swipe gesture.
Does anyone else have any info on this subject which might allow the phone to spoof a generic dongle as the HTC dongle and give the same functionality as the HTC Media Link HD?
I have searched the forum to the best of my ability but can't find much on the subject other than 3rd party dongles using 3rd party apps.
Many thanks indeed
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I would love to see a physical remote used with the chromecast. I feel that is a major item missing when it comes to controlling a set top box. This wouldn't be all that helpful with casting, but for netflix/hulu use and other apps it would be great. I like having dedicated/physical buttons for things.
Not sure where to begin on this journey. Anyone else feel the same way I do?
Possible options:
WiiMote - Bluetooth?
Keyboard - bluetooth
Is this someones attemp at a wiimote + chromecast?
https://code.google.com/p/chromecas...entation/ABI/testing/sysfs-driver-hid-wiimote
Don't know what you'd control with that.
You can use a wiimote/dualshock 3 with your android device to control YouTube, if that's what you mean.
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Leraeniesh said:
Don't know what you'd control with that.
You can use a wiimote/dualshock 3 with your android device to control YouTube, if that's what you mean.
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I think they're after a physical implementation of RemoteCast
Closest thing I can think of would be to see if RemoteCast's dev would support some kind of paired Bluetooth controller like a Wiimote, but its function would still be tied to a phone/tablet somewhere.
If Chromecast does well, I wouldn't be surprised if Google releases some firmware that enables the Bluetooth part of its WiFi chip and sells us a remote and/or provides Bluetooth functionality in the SDK. But first things first, they need to release the SDK...
I would be much more interested in some IR Control myself...
Not just for when I'm using the Chromecast but for when I'm not as well.
If implemented it could automatically change your TV to the chromecast input when you cast something to Chromecast and when your not casting it would allow the Chromecast to serve as a conduit to using your tablet/phone as a full IR remote for your TV, Set Top Boxes and whatever else you have at your Home Entertainment system.
Asphyx said:
I would be much more interested in some IR Control myself...
Not just for when I'm using the Chromecast but for when I'm not as well.
If implemented it could automatically change your TV to the chromecast input when you cast something to Chromecast and when your not casting it would allow the Chromecast to serve as a conduit to using your tablet/phone as a full IR remote for your TV, Set Top Boxes and whatever else you have at your Home Entertainment system.
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Mine already changes the channel and turns the TV on if it's off.
Unless you have an unusual setup, all you need to do is enabled HDMI-CEC in your TV's settings, and make sure Chromecast has power when the TV is off (if you want it to turn the TV on).
IR would be quite complicated, mainly because something has to receive the IR and process it.
You'd probably be better off getting a network-enabled IR receiver/blaster like the GlobalCache GC-100 to do network-triggered IR blasting.
bhiga said:
Mine already changes the channel and turns the TV on if it's off.
Unless you have an unusual setup, all you need to do is enabled HDMI-CEC in your TV's settings, and make sure Chromecast has power when the TV is off (if you want it to turn the TV on).
IR would be quite complicated, mainly because something has to receive the IR and process it.
You'd probably be better off getting a network-enabled IR receiver/blaster like the GlobalCache GC-100 to do network-triggered IR blasting.
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I don't have that option on my TVs...
As for receiving IR.... no not what I am asking...Just for the chromecast to SEND IR and act as the globalcache device does.just on the Tx side.
I don't want to use a IR remote I want to be able to control the Home Ent system (Ir devices) via my Tablet. All I need is Tx for that and if CC had a mini plug for IR transmitter lead and some IR emitter circuitry it could do it. IR Codes would be set via the Tablet App.
Asphyx said:
I don't have that option on my TVs...
As for receiving IR.... no not what I am asking...Just for the chromecast to SEND IR and act as the globalcache device does.just on the Tx side.
I don't want to use a IR remote I want to be able to control the Home Ent system (Ir devices) via my Tablet. All I need is Tx for that and if CC had a mini plug for IR transmitter lead and some IR emitter circuitry it could do it. IR Codes would be set via the Tablet App.
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Ahh, I see. Well, I was working within the constraints of what could potentially be done with software development and existing hardware.
Adding an IR minijack to Chromecast is well outside of that.
bhiga said:
Ahh, I see. Well, I was working within the constraints of what could potentially be done with software development and existing hardware.
Adding an IR minijack to Chromecast is well outside of that.
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Yes but I'm already thinking towards Chromecast II! LOL
Or would they call it Chromecast 2014 like they did with the Nexus by adding rear facing camera and LTE! LOL
Asphyx said:
Yes but I'm already thinking towards Chromecast II! LOL
Or would they call it Chromecast 2014 like they did with the Nexus by adding rear facing camera and LTE! LOL
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I'm hoping more along Chromecast 2015 - at least give the current one a full year before making it obsolete!
bhiga said:
I'm hoping more along Chromecast 2015 - at least give the current one a full year before making it obsolete!
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Maybe we both should just hope we get rid of the whitelist before 2020! LOL
Doesnt have to be an IR remote. Could be wireless like on the Roku, or bluetooth like on the Wii.
An IR blaster on the ChromeCast would be helpful for learning remotes, so you could have 1 remote to control all of your devices.
I just prefer the physical feel of a remote. Not having to fumble around looking for capacitive buttons.
Im trying to find a cheap alternative to a Roku 3.
$35 Chromecast + remote would be cheaper than $75+ for the R3.
Why the hell do you need a physical remote when its all network based anyways? IR remote is not needed for any of the apps and an IR remote wouldn't handle all advances functions seamlessly anyways. What do you want an apple TV remote which is about worthless and constantly getting lost anyways? Perhaps and hdmi-cec network based remote might be cool but HDMI cec is still wonky though its a lot better than a few years ago.
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Asphyx it might be that it is not named HDMI-CEC as the diffrent vendors like to call it there own name. Here is a list over the most well known names of HDMI-CEC and it is something that have been in flat screens the last 5-6 years now so as long your tv is not older then that you should have it.
Code:
Branding Vendor
Anynet Samsung
BRAVIA Sync Sony
KURO Link Pioneer
NetCommand Mitsubishi
REGZA-LINK Toshiba
RIHD Onkyo
SimpLink LG
I am just hoping for more implementation of HDMI-CEC. I would like to use the atual tv remote to play/pause or fast fwd etc. I would also like the ability to NOT turn on the tv when i fire up google music. Now if it could turn on my receiver that would be great
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Asphyx it might be that it is not named HDMI-CEC as the diffrent vendors like to call it there own name. Here is a list over the most well known names of HDMI-CEC and it is something that have been in flat screens the last 5-6 years now so as long your tv is not older then that you should have it.
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Branding Vendor
Anynet Samsung
BRAVIA Sync Sony
KURO Link Pioneer
NetCommand Mitsubishi
REGZA-LINK Toshiba
RIHD Onkyo
SimpLink LG
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Yes but I'm almost certain that standard was made more recently than the TV I have...
I pretty much have a first Gen HDTV and believe the CEC Protocal was not part of HDMI 1.1
It wasn't available until HDMI 1.2a if I'm not mistaken.
I could check for a firmware upgrade but merely changing the channel on the TV to Chromecast is only part of what I would like it to do.
I suppose I will have to spring for the $200 IRoverIP blaster to get it.
scoobdude said:
I am just hoping for more implementation of HDMI-CEC. I would like to use the atual tv remote to play/pause or fast fwd etc.
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Many would find that handy - so it is a bit strange that it has not yet been implemented. One reason might be that the chromecast team want to emphasise that a remote is not necessary and that controlling using a mobile device is preferable. I guess that it will be added down the road (just like the delete button was added to gmail).
Arne S said:
Many would find that handy - so it is a bit strange that it has not yet been implemented. One reason might be that the chromecast team want to emphasise that a remote is not necessary and that controlling using a mobile device is preferable. I guess that it will be added down the road (just like the delete button was added to gmail).
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Actually the most likely reason is they wanted to keep the cost down at it's current $35 and adding any IR or extra CEC support would have driven the price up another 10-20 dollars.
These things we are hoping for may all show up whenever Chromecast II comes along.
Right now they are competing with Miracast dongles that can be had for around the same price point.
I think the target with this initial version was to do Miracast better because it can work over wired networks as well and frees the device that initializes the stream to do other things..
Not possible with Miracast!
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Actually the most likely reason is they wanted to keep the cost down at it's current $35 and adding any IR or extra CEC support would have driven the price up another 10-20 dollars.
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The chromecast is already using some CEC functions so additional HW would be probably not be required to implement support for using the TV remote to control the dongle.
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The chromecast is already using some CEC functions so additional HW would be probably not be required to implement support for using the TV remote to control the dongle.
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Big difference between adding a Transistor or two to a chip that will make a contact to switch to the current input or Power On than it is to put an entire set of them that can do much more complex functions. Just the TV compatibility alone would add to the price.
I agree it should be possible to do easily but these things all need to be added to the silicon which would make it cost more.
This is SOP for any new device you're trying to get adopted. The Next gen will probably add a ton of things to inspire upgrading to it.
Remember the Nexus7 (2012) came with no Rear Facing Camera or LTE to keep the price down as well....
Fast Forward to 2013 and Nexus 7 (2013) has BOTH included!
This version we have now is a proof of concept device, Gets us hooked and serves as a starter platform to get 3rd Party support for it's innovative streaming methods.
And now that is done so the 3rd parties can start making it useful while Google thinks up what the next generation can do that the first gen doesn't do but probably should!
Just a matter of time of you ask me...And don't be surprised to see some Chromecast functionality built into your smart TV that has the full blown IR and CEC support your looking for.
Here is a list of all the functions CEC does most of which have no useful application regarding Chromecast until such time as they decide using Chromecast as an IP Remote device is something they really want to do. And most are not applicable other than play stop and pause.
One Touch Play allows devices to switch the TV to use it as the active source when playback starts (Currently Supported I believe)
System Standby enables users to switch multiple devices to standby mode with the press of one button
Preset Transfer transfers the tuner channel setup to another TV set
One Touch Record allows users to record whatever is currently being shown on the HDTV screen on a selected recording device
Timer Programming allows users to use the electronic program guides (EPGs) that are built into many HDTVs and set-top-boxes to program the timer in recording devices like PVRs and DVRs
System Information checks all components for bus addresses and configuration
Deck Control allows a component to interrogate and control the operation (play, pause, rewind etc.), of a playback component (Blu-ray or HD DVD player or a Camcorder, etc.) (This is what your looking for I sure wouldn't mind having this)
Tuner Control allows a component to control the tuner of another component
OSD Display uses the OSD of the TV set to display text
Device Menu Control allows a component to control the menu system of another component by passing through the user interface (UI) commands
Routing Control controls the switching of signal sources (Currently Supported)
Remote Control Pass Through allows remote control commands to be passed through to other devices within the system (I want THIS!)
Device OSD Name Transfer transfers the preferred device names to the TV set
System Audio Control allows the volume of an AV receiver, integrated amplifier or pre-amplifier to be controlled using any remote control from a suitably equipped device(s) in the system (You and I would BOTH like this!)
Asphyx said:
Big difference between adding a Transistor or two to a chip that will make a contact to switch to the current input or Power On than it is to put an entire set of them that can do much more complex functions. Just the TV compatibility alone would add to the price.
I agree it should be possible to do easily but these things all need to be added to the silicon which would make it cost more.
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That might be. I do not know. The Chromcast is powered by the Marvel Armanda 1500-mini chip which is also used in other devices. I do not know what CEC capabilities this chip has but according to its documentation it supports HDMI v1.4 while CEC was introduced in v1.3. I think that both the fact that this is a "standard" chip also used in other devices and the fact that it uses HDMI v1.4 points in the direction that the HW in the Chromecast dongle supports more CEC functions than the ones currently exposed.
Is it possible that developer can make TV app to work without internet connection, offline mode for controlling simple TV set (no cable or STB with VOD/EPG services)?
I know it is discontinued by HTC but I really like the layout and customization it provides. I know there are other apps out there, tried few myself but HTC TV app is the best in my opinion.