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Is it a good idea to buy HTC Incredible S instead of HTC Desire?

Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.

Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.

mrHD2 said:
Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Can you root it and put a custom ROM? If so, does the guide exist?

if you searched further than your nose long is, u had the answer on that

Really depends on what you want to do with the phone. The screen display is a lot better than desire. If you just wanna a phone to use, IS is the choice. If you are a fun of installing custom ROMs, desire is probably a better choice. As far as I know, software rooting is not available yet for IS.

if you are comparing stock to stock...
the major advantage of having an IS is the internal memory... on a fresh stock rom...
Desire would have around 147MB for you to use for all your apps.. and you have to spare 30MB for OTA updates purpose...
if you have IS you have 1.07GB on a fresh rom... so many apps you can install without any worries

I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.

Dual cores
_Flea_ said:
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!

RobinRichard said:
Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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At first I was looking at a dual core as well.
But after all I thought: what is the real benefit at the moment?
I mean, I don't call that much a month, use internet a lot, play some simple games, listen to music and that's it.
My Desire could handle all those things very good.
I must say that I'm very happy with my IS and I'm glad I didn't wait for a dual core.

Bear in mind the Desire has some issues with multi-touch, and battery life isn't particularly good. It is readily rootable however, while some variants of the Incredible S are not.

My friend had a Desire nd i have an IS ... Go for the IS no doubt.. so fat the issues i ve seen in multi touch . battery life, screen , speed ( cause of RAM ) .. IS wins hands down

[Q] Advice needed whether to buy or not this phone?

Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.

Shriharsh said:
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
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The phone straight of the box is not all that 'flash'...in order to reach it's full potential you will need to flash newer firmware and/or customs roms...for increased sound quality you will need Voodoo Sound, and I would recommend PowerAmp also. Once all that is complete you'll have one hell of a phone (seriously)
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Some questions on rom manager
After i install rom manager and put custom clockwork mod recovery ,would i still need pc to flash roms with odin or i can do it without pc?
Also it would be nice if someone tell the procedure on how to install roms using rom manager?

Shriharsh said:
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
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1. There is a fair bit of support for sound quality on this device. I am no audiophile, but I think its pretty good. There is a Voodoo Control app that lets you get a little more in depth with all of this, a quick search for it might help you figure out if its what you're looking for.
2. I love my SGS. Tons of fun ROM's available, ported apps, despite what some say I experience great battery life, with the upgrade to 2.3.3 I have great GPS. The screen is extraordinary, and it has one of the best community followings on XDA
3. There are some bugs with the GPS system. Some people experience poor satellite locks. There are a few different things that can cause it, most with viable workarounds or fixes. Other than that....the only bugs I've found have been software, and usually fixed by Dev's.

beaver2233 said:
The phone straight of the box is not all that 'flash'...in order to reach it's full potential you will need to flash newer firmware and/or customs roms...for increased sound quality you will need Voodoo Sound, and I would recommend PowerAmp also. Once all that is complete you'll have one hell of a phone (seriously)
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and what about bugs?

Shriharsh said:
and what about bugs?
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Varies depending on what rom/firmware you choose as stated above about GPS, however I don't use it so doesn't worry me...
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out of the box my phone had 2.2 froyo which has been ok for me. The best thing about the phone and android platform is how much you can change.
The thing that made me choose this over HTC is the screen is it's a more manageable size and the screen is covered in gorilla glass - MUCH harder to crack/break. So many of my friends have cracked iphones and HTC's.
Flashing to late gingerbread/good custom rom's makes the phone incredibly quick compared to stock and much more fluid and usable.
No regrets on this phone, except that the SII is out soon ;D

beaver2233 said:
Varies depending on what rom/firmware you choose as stated above about GPS, however I don't use it so doesn't worry me...
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tell me more about rom manager and how it works?

gorilla Glass?
i dont think galaxy S comes with gorilla glass !!!

johnmerlyn said:
i dont think galaxy S comes with gorilla glass !!!
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gsmarena has mentioned that it is powered by gorilla glass. Have a look here http://xrl.us/bhk6hi

Powered by gorilla glass?
It has gorilla glass but gets absolutely no power from it....
Lol anyways!
quit asking questions and just buy the farking thing!
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Shriharsh said:
tell me more about rom manager and how it works?
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Rom manager ? There's no real need for that in my opinion, to start off you just use Odin (on your PC, very simple) to flash an updated stock firmware, 2.3.3 probably best. Once that's done you download any rom you want from the Galaxy S Android Development Thread. However to do all this, including using Odin, you (the phone) MUST have both download mode (with phone off, hold home button + volume down + power) and recovery mode (same but volume up instead of down). Pretty sure 95% of them do have these modes.

I would definitely recommend buying an i9000 right now.
The hardware is solid and reasonably future-proof, including some features that newer phones lack such as the AMOLED screen and Gorilla Glass. The 1Ghz processor may not be dual core as some of the newer phones will be sporting, but in real day to day usage the performance difference between dual core and single core CPUs is not really noticable, assuming you aren't doing heavy gaming on your phone.
The i9000 modding community is very strong so even once Samsung stops providing software updates to the phone, you will still be able to get the latest and greatest thanks to XDA devs. Often the ROMs you can get here will be superior to the stock ROMs for such phones as the Galaxy S II (and probably even III). You can also opt to install Cm7 on the i9000 now to ensure your phone will be getting regular updates for at least a few years to come.
Lastly, now that the Galaxy S II and other next gen phones are being released, you should be able to get a great deal on an i9000.

There are two major bugs for the international SGS line.
The first one, lag, can be fixed pretty easily, if you don't mind rooting your phone and generally doing things that void your warranty. The main problem is to do with the file system used on the phone. It may seem fine at first but it bogs down after a while and a week or two later can be pretty unusuable. Although this varies from person to person, and a lot of the newer firmwares are a lot better than the old ones. Still this is pretty easy to fix permanently if you have a problem, just flash a kernal supporting voodoo lagfix or universal lagfix and then convert the filesystem.
The second major problem is the GPS. User experience varies very greatly for this, some report their gps working perfectly all the time whist others claim it to be literally useless. The problem seems to be a combination of hardware and software and there are a lot of fixes which have widely varrying success rates and may work perfectly for one person but be useless for another. In my experience the gps is probably not reliable enough for navigation but will do alright. Sometimes it locks to an accuracy of 5m - other times 5km. If you consider GPS an important function, then I would probably have to recommend you look elsewhere.
Gingerbread, the latest version of android is available for our phones, but it has a few bugs in it. So some people prefer running the later version of froyo which are very reliable and there is lots of support and extras for. However as gingerbread is more commonly adopted it is starting to take over and get many of the extra features that are available for froyo.
Alternatively, the phone now has official cyanogenmod support after a long time of it being unofficial and too hard to make work as an official version. This will enable you to run the latest and greatest android versions for some time to come but at the moment it drains battery much faster than samsung based roms.
As for gorilla glass, it's certainly a great thing to have, and much better than normal glass, but by no means does it make your phone invincible to scratches and cracks. Some people may still prefer to use a screen protector, some people do not, it's really up to you to decide that. However I've seen far too many expect gorilla glass to mean invincible and they get a big scratch on their 3rd day or something and then complain too much. Having tried it with and without a screen cover, the plain glass does feel a little bit nicer, but if you get a good quality cover it's almost unnoticeable. Just take care of your phone either way.
Now as for sound, out of the box it is pretty average. However it has a high quality audio chip and its average sound output is due to rushed sound drivers. Supercurio has essentially reworked the sound drivers and has made a huge difference to the sound making it very high quality. There is a free version and a paid version. The Free version gets pretty much all the same stuff but you have to use a custom kernal with voodoo sound built into it. The paid version only requires your phone to be rooted and it can inject the voodoo sound drivers into any kernel. The best bit about this is you always get the latest version of voodoo sound without having to flash anything new. Even if the kernel you use has an old version of voodoo sound, using the paid up you will always get the newest. The paid version also gets the latest new features before they are brought to the free one.
EDIT: One last thing, try and have a look at the display model. The Galaxy S uses a pentile matrix sub-pixel layout which some people find looks funny and they cannot stand it. If the screen looks fine to you then don't worry about it. It looks fine to me.

I was rushing anxiously to buy the sgs 2 but fortunately I stopped to check out s1 and gave myself a chance to try it, after using that amazing phone, no need for the dual processor of the s2 with the present apps on the market now, maybe later on.
What I love in this phone:
1. Amazing screen
2. Compact size
3. Sound quality (boosted by voodo)
4. Fair processor speed.
I switched from htc hd2
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Shriharsh said:
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
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Since I bought this phone 8 months ago and still using it I reccomend you to buy.
Here are my asnwers to your questions. Please note that these are depending on my experience and opinions. It is impossible for me to be very objective.
1. Sound quality is perfect. I was using Iphone 3g before. Compared to iphone it is perfect. But it may such compared to some other devices that I did not used or have knowledge about it.
2. The screen is awesome. Color, sensitivity are perfect. Little bit less resolution than I phone but the look is better than iphone (iphone 4 of course). The battery life is about same compared with these kind of devices. Speed is reasonable. The thing that I do not like is the back button can be touched accidentaly easily resulting exiting programs. Not a big deal.
3. Bugs are dependable. If you flash a lot of roms like me, or install applications out from the market it is possible to have some bugs.

Incredible S or Nexus S

Hi guys,
Using a Nexus S right now and a buddy is offering me his unlocked IS. I am very tempted because of the faster processor and more memory but the locked bootloader and lack of developer support (compared to other phones) is becoming a big turn off. Value wise, the IS or even the DHD is a sure bet but again, support is key to a successful phone and it doesn't get better than google's Nexus family.
What do you think?
But I'm seeing a lot of custom roms, are they fully functional and bug free? As good as the ones on the HD forums?

Remember, this is a phone released in March/April! Developer support will grow significantly once AlphaRevX has released the public beta for S-OFF, letting you put custom roms onto the IS.
To note, it's more of the question of whether you want to use Sense UI for the time being or be open to use other roms.
In terms of hardware, its similar - asside from the cameras, 8.0 and 1.3 Megapixels respectively.
You can't go wrong if its FREE, however its solely up to you.

I need some help deciding lol
Someone's offering me a desire hd with an otterbox case and the other guy an IS. Same price and all.
Are the IS roms stable, fast and as good as the ones on the HD?
I've never been this undecided! )

kingofthebraves said:
Someone's offering me a desire hd with an otterbox case and the other guy an IS. Same price and all.
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I don't root my phone nor put custom rom on it, so cannot comment on rom. But between DHD and IS, I came from DHD, because of the size, screen quality, battery life, weight, no ffc, and other stuff, I sold it and bought IS which IMO is the best HTC single core phone.
Regarding rootability, I don't mind too much but I do believe time will solve all the problem, there will be always ways to make things happened.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

h.han said:
But between DHD and IS, I came from DHD, because of the screen quality
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That.
The S-LCD in the Incredible S is probably one of the best displays i've ever seen on a mobile handset (aside from S-AMOLED displays). The viewing angles are spectacular, no wash out whatsoever unless it's a really extreme angle. AND the colours are really vivid.
Despite the DHD having a 4.3" display vs a 4.0" display, the IS beats it hands down in the display department

yeah i have used DHD and IS and IS beats DHD by a mile

Both phones are similar from a spec standpoint. I think the Incredible S feels better in the hand. Nexus S felt cheap to me. Nexus S will get updates first but once the Incredible S is rooted there will be a custom rom for any updates the Nexus S gets in the future.
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kingofthebraves said:
Hi guys,
Using a Nexus S right now and a buddy is offering me his unlocked IS. I am very tempted because of the faster processor and more memory but the locked bootloader and lack of developer support (compared to other phones) is becoming a big turn off. Value wise, the IS or even the DHD is a sure bet but again, support is key to a successful phone and it doesn't get better than google's Nexus family.
What do you think?
But I'm seeing a lot of custom roms, are they fully functional and bug free? As good as the ones on the HD forums?
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My IS is rooted and Mike1986 Rom is 100% working and stable, never had a single force close. Speed is instant, no delays anywhere.

I have this same dilemma but it's the opposite. I have the Incredible S. Sigh.
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My phone is very smooth w/o root.... Gingerbread...... Everything is perfect and I don't feel the need for root.... I tried both nexus s and IS personally I felt sense more productive in day to day work and more beautiful too.... My battery lasts a day easily and display is on par with super amoled.... There are some unique features of sense that I like .... Say for example... Flip to silent... Volume boost when in pocket....and volume reduce when u lift the phone.... These make the phone more useful.... Plus the build quality is better than Samsung.... Anytime... And design is unique... All these make it desirable.....
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Your friends IS may even have an unlocked bootloader right now. I've heard the GPS chip in nexus s is crap aswell. It was a dilemma for me too as I was trying to choose between the same phones. I ultimately went for this one though and haven't regretted it at all. One thing I would have liked in theory though is the contactless payment chip as I think McDonald's offer that now
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i have both: Inspire 4G (US version of the Desire HD) and a factory s-off'd Bell Incredible S. i've rooted both and am using sense 3.0 roms on both. ( lights at bottom aren't working yet with Sense 3.0 on the Inc S. ) the Inc S display is better than my Inspire and it's easier to carry. also seems to be a little faster than my Inspire, but not enough to sway me away from the Inspire. the smaller screen can be an issue for some (but not me); yes (to me) .3 inches makes a difference with some things like font size in email. not a show stopper though.
bottom line: i don't think you can go wrong with either one. i use the Inc S for work and the Inspire for "play".

Hi Cortez,
I have Inc S for playing, including NON-succesfully obtain s-off by alpharevx ;p my work is rely on HD2, larger screen give me comfort in reading email and sms. I do like sense very much due to the keyboard layout with cursor up-dwon, right-left keys, it make not neccessary to touch text area when typing email/sms. Plain GB Rom (Nexus for example) is fast, but sense give us very good Mail Client. Easier to read/send email (even gmail) on sense mail client rather than by default gmail apps on the default ROM. I tried to put sense keyboard into plain android rom, but No Lucks. since Im not dev or rom chef. I cook rom for fun and for personal use, not for public Is there any GB rom based on plain (nexus) with sense keyboard and mail client (?) sense is another layer on the plain android rom and htc cook very nice and well polished.

Hi Cortez,
I have Inc S for playing, including NON-succesfully obtain s-off by alpharevx ;p my work is rely on HD2, larger screen give me comfort in reading email and sms. I do like sense very much due to the keyboard layout with cursor up-dwon, right-left keys, it make not neccessary to touch text area when typing email/sms. Plain GB Rom (Nexus for example) is fast, but sense give us very good Mail Client. Easier to read/send email (even gmail) on sense mail client rather than by default gmail apps on the default ROM. I tried to put sense keyboard into plain android rom, but No Lucks. since Im not dev or rom chef. I cook rom for fun and for personal use, not for public Is there any GB rom based on plain (nexus) with sense keyboard and mail client (?) sense is another layer on the plain android rom and htc cook very nice and well polished.

[Q] Should I get this phone as an upgrade?

Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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1GB is more than enough in most phones, I've never had RAM management problems with this one.
However, my answer is a big NO.
Let me elaborate;
>Battery life
With proper greenifying, wakelock detecting, and no more than 2% per 12h of battery discharge, it has a decent battery life, but it seems the screen and the tegra 3 chip draw a lot of power from it. An extended battery does fix that though, but don't expect more than 3h of screentime on a normal usage day and 60-70% brightness, on a normal battery.
>Stock ROM
Looks great, feels great, kernel is easily updated (if you got the bootloader unlocked, flash another one), and then works great too. This phone, in my opinion is meant to be the LG Optimus G's younger brother. I've tried a lot of custom roms, but stock is the one that takes it away from me, after properly kdz flashed (without the bloat apps and stuff).
>Heating issues
10 mins of playing, well, pretty much anything that's 3D makes the phone really hot, no thermal throttling though, but don't expect this phone to last if you play an hour of gaming or more. Even Subway Surf kills the battery.
>Tegra 3 incompatibility/unoptimized apps
Most games are made with Adreno in mind, needless to say, Adreno is not better than the T3, just has more optimizations done for it. Also some apps aren't available via the Play Store on this phone, but that can vary depending on your region.
In my opinion, I'd always go with an SGS3, even with stock touch wiz and bloat, because
a) it gets proper software updates, unlike LG and all of their devices, not just the 4X HD.
b) better modding support/community
c) apparently heats up a lot less and lasts a lot more, that also means given its support there's bound to be more extended batteries, cases, stands, cradles, docks, and equipment for it.
The only thing the 4X HD has going for it is the price, I've paid 180e for it, and it was a huge step up from an even worse phone than yours (Samsung Galaxy Mini, s5570), but so far, I'm not a happy camper.
And the screen has a dead pixel on it, which irks me a lot.
Oh and apparently someone took the KDZ repository on that one site down. Dunno what the deal with that is too.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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i would buy it, since it has good specs, and with custom roms you will have support for quite some time in future, i hope
1 GB of ram for me is enough, i don't play games on it, and after greenify hibernates apps, i got around 400 - 450 mb free, rom is latest vanir rom 4.3.1. dated 26.10.2013., and i am also using killjoy script
phone works really good, only little problem is with baseband_xmm_power wakelock, but devs are working on that and slow but surely this problem is getting reduced
camera is good for taking pictures, at least for me
i would only like that lock key is on the right side, current position is little awkward, but you get used to it
that's it from me

Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.

Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?

Flying_Bear said:
Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
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Would love to have one, but they're pretty expensive for me.
After some 'extensive' research, I have finally found the Xperia ZR. Maybe I might get it once the price drops (next year perhaps). Had earlier found the Optimus G to my liking, but I just dislike the glass back and front . Well, both have CM support which is a good thing for me
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Do not buy this phone. I repeat DO NOT!
Battery life sucks, and it gets hot. It is a fricking smart frying pan. Seriously you can cook an egg on it. And it lags oh boy it lags like hell.
A good phone shouldn't need this much optimization to work better. I tried every CM, kernel etc but either you get good battery life and ****ty gaming performance or you get good performance and horrible battery life (like 2-3 hours max).
Get Optimus G or S3 but don't get this.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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If you can get it for a good price and are willing to root and customize it, it's probably the best bang for a buck you can get at the moment.
The IPS screen is simply gorgeous. It's even more pleasing to the eye than my HTC One LCD screen if you ask me my honest opinion. Yes, it tends to drain the battery heavily, but with the right configuration you can get over 3 and even 4 hours of screen time easily. Oh, and I can't seem to get any scratches on it. Impressive since I don't use a case or any kind of screen protection and carry it around in my pocket all day. Only downside: fingerprints!
I like it's design and build quality. Even though it's all plastic, it neither feels nor looks (too) cheap. More important: all the buttons are in the right place for me. The ridged back provides some extra grip and looks quite OK (from a distance ) and so does the fake metal finish on the sides. It has to be the best fake metal in the business because it's still intact after dropping on my bathroom floor twice.
My biggest issue with this phone (besides being ignored by LG) has to be the sound quality. The silly speaker on the back is nearly useless when the phone is laying down. Picking it up doesn't improve anything.
I can't really comment on this phone's gaming capabilities. I don't really use my phone for that, sorry.
The only alternative I would consider in your position would be the Nexus 4. You should be able to pick it up for a fair price once Google releases the Nexus 5.
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Tough call
darthbii said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.
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The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.

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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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If you don't mind me asking what GPS tweaks have you done?
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Sorry about the double post the xda app isn't playing well with my phone
sent from my Optimus 4x
just hit the thanks button

Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.

frankie_p said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
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Oh I already did this a while back and now use topNTP from the play store to install it lol. I asked because even with thid I can only get about 4-6 satellites in about 15 mins
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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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lol this is disaster mine is just fine. the real disadvantage of this phone is only the low bitrate and framerate of the camera , but thats just how the lg made it. we cant change the hardware. besides that my phone works fine

So you are saying that:
- 3rd party cameras with autofocus and flash are working fine using a custom ROM as in CM based ROM? Which one please? so I can try it.
- No wakelocks at all? What kernel are you using and how do you use your phone? Gaming?, Internet (WIFI/3G) on all the time? FB/Tweeter/G+ on with auto updates all the time?
- Connecting to a car's BT to stream music works ALL the time?
- You can syncronize more than 10GB's in one go to the external microSD with no issues ALL the time?
You must be using either a stock ROM or one based on a stock ROM.

I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one

N4R4Y4N said:
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
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this forum is for optimux 4x so i can only say about that one. the camera is bad. the bitrate and fps are low. so have in mind that and choose. about other phones u can check them in their forum. the reason is... because we dont own them all xD

SGS5 over HTC One M8

Well, guys and girls I want to hear from you why to get (or not) SGS5 over HTC One M8 as owners of that first phone. I have two weeks to decide, but at that point I'm not sure which one to pick.
Currently I have SGS3, stock rooted, unlocked + Xposed tweaks, running TSF Launcher.
What I'm looking for? Ability to root, unlock and customize little bit stock ROM using Xposed. Launcher, probably, I will replace with TSF anyway.
Thanks for any feedback

Scyzor said:
Well, guys and girls I want to hear from you why to get (or not) SGS5 over HTC One M8 as owners of that first phone. I have two weeks to decide, but at that point I'm not sure which one to pick.
Currently I have SGS3, stock rooted, unlocked + Xposed tweaks, running TSF Launcher.
What I'm looking for? Ability to root, unlock and customize little bit stock ROM using Xposed. Launcher, probably, I will replace with TSF anyway.
Thanks for any feedback
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I've used both. The M8 feels way nicer and has a cleaner (less laggy) UI. I think the screen feels nicer to use (more like iPhone). On the contrary, it's very slippery to hold, almost kind of awkward. Sound quality blows away any other phone. You also can unlock the bootloader with any M8 variant.
The S5 is plastic as you know. Where no other phone can come close to audio quality, the same can be said about the S5's camera. It's amazing. With the S5, you'll get A LOT more support for third party accessories. Samsung's TouchWiz UI is a heavy skin which takes a lot of memory to run. It is notorious for being slow and laggy. Of course, it gets the job done. I actually prefer how TW looks over sense.
My advice is to try both. Yes you'll have to pay restocking fees, but in the end you'll have experienced both devices.

First off Questions and help issues belong in Q&A and Help section. If you check "This is a question" it automatically adds a [Q] to your thread title and all [Q]s are moved to Q&A as they do not belong in General. I am editing the title.
Second...there is a sticky for device comparisons so please use it both here and in your S3 section
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