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And on the seventh day God created HTC Sense...

And just how happy were the Samsung people? Click here...
I can get the devs "sense" of achievement but the hundreds of followers comments of yipeeeeeee, and awesome... etc etc etc ... Why not just buy an HTC?
I am near the end of my 3 month trial of a Nexus S and it has lasted pricisely 2 weeks, its up for sale. I just do not like it. Its featureless and slow. My Desire HD -using rcmix runny- is so much smoother and quicker to the touch I just don't get how they done so well. On Saturdy, else before, I will pickup my Evo 3d dual core and go again -after 4 years- with htc. At $330 (£229 in Asda UK), I just can't say no.
I know there are lots of fans out there for Samsung, but what do you like about it?
Me on Nexus S. Buttons, wkd for reboots to recovery when had to rip battery out. Nice and easy. Like the longer thinner screen too. And Amoled is very good. That is it.

I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.

DirkGently said:
I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. MIUI -for me- is boring, too much concentration on being an iphone rather than itself. I used to use first MIUI roms when it took weeks to get a translation out of Shen. It might be time to try it again.
I am one of the ones that strips Sense immediately. The point was that my HD runs faster and smoother with sense that the NS runs without it at all. I tried many roms and the lag is terrible, as was the stock rom. Now performance with the Oxygen or absolution roms... That is special. I just think the build quality is better. I guess I am disappointed with no singing OR dancing.
Orb3000, if you are around please explain what it is about HTC that we love so much.

spikey68 said:
Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. .
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?

m1l4droid said:
Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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Not sure dude. I think that Samsung were cute using the Tegra 2 for those models and you will see a big swing this year when htc have the t3 inside. In bothe phone and tablet. The actual feel of an htc in your hand is much better i reckon. The nexus s and sg2 seem plasticy.
I have the cm9 kali ics on now.It is the only one of all the ICS's I can install and not spend 1hr putting things right on. its ok, but nothing like as quick as my DHD with sense on and loaded with apps, but that's on GB.
Ah well. I'm not sure what I expected from it really. The fact that i do mess with my own roms and knew what I would makes me the stupid one. If ur happy ur happy. I just wanted something different.

and the lord saw that it was a bloated resource hogging abomination and cast it into the lake of fire...
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Im one of those people that stripped sense out as much as possible. Last years HTC phones were a disappointmet, I can't stand those 16:9 dimensions. Hopefully this year they make a decent phone with a 4:5 and 4.5" screen. Until then it'll be Samsungs.

m1l4droid said:
Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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I have to totally disagree with you there old bean
Sense is lovely, it's so smooth and logical. I find it usable where as I find plain android horrible so would never have a nexus.
As for hardware, yes the SGS II screen is nice, but the phone feels really cheap and brittle to me, I'd be worried about sitting down and snapping it. I don't have such issues with the sensation and prefer the higher resolution screen.
It's one of the huge advantages Android has over other phone OSs, there's so much variety and customisation available pretty much everyone's desires can be met.

sense 4.0

does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks

ps3kev said:
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.

thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues

ps3kev said:
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.

question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.

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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.

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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.

I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Cor-master said:
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.

dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..

homeslice976 said:
Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0

What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics

Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!

Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.

i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know

Aus_Azn said:
Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP

No need for 4.2

Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Cor-master said:
Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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HTC One with Sense or stock Android?

I'm looking for a phone to upgrade from my current HTC Desire HD. I started a couple of years ago with Sense, then reluctantly went to stock Android. Now I can't go back to Sense and a big reason is battery life. These smart phones after a year, it's all about reducing lag and increasing battery time.
So now I'm on an unofficial CM10.
Well if I get an HTC One, will I just install CM again? Is that what people do, or do you make use of HTC's software? I know how it's a personal preference, but I'm wondering if the latest Sense is so good people are sticking with it. Reviews say it's less bloat.
And if people are just going to a stock Android Rom, is it better to get this phone or the GS4 to load a stock Rom?
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.

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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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100% agreed. I came from AOKP on my S3 (I can't stand touchwiz). I purchased the One and absolutely love sense 5. I don't believe I'll switch back. Especially since some features won't work like the beats driver and I've also heard some flaws with the camera on AOSP ROMs.
If you are worried about battery, quite frankly you shouldn't be purchasing a mini computer. Battery life is great on this phone for how powerful it is. While at work I turn on Power Saver mode and have my data connections turned off on sleep mode. When I'm off 9 hours later I'm still at 70%. If I keep everything running I'm at about 20% by the end of the night when I plug it in.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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avplaya said:
I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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+1 sense5 is smooth as butter it doesnt lag on my phone at all

asif9t9 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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Hmm.. not sure what greenify is, but I can tell you what Power Saver is. When turned on it conserves power by limiting the speed of the cpu, turns down screen brightness, disables haptic feedback, and disables data while on sleep mode. Pretty handy in my opinion. =)
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I came from the N4 running CM 10.1 and I find too sense 5 a big surprise. It's running very smooth and battery life is quite the same with my N4. I plan on staying on stock and unrooted for a while.
Power saver is not like greenify, it reduces CPU speed and even brightness if the battery level is low.

asif9t9 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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from what i can tell,
greenify basically ensures that apps are fully unloaded when you lock your phone... keeps the naughty apps in line.
the htc power save option basically does the usual limit screen brightness as well as cpu, turn off haptic feedback and disables data during sleep mode.
the disabling of data is a little bit of an issue for me, since i use cerberusapp and it won't let me connect (obviously)
things still sync however no longer in real time (i think it enables data on a pre-defined interval to update sync).
the good news is that you can disable these options individually so yeah i have all the power save options enabled apart from data.
i too went from a cm10 device to sense 5. i'm loving the new fresh feel, however I'm missing the notification toggles badly.

Before the HTC One, I've never owned a HTC device before and therefore never used Sense before.
Before I got this phone, I checked out some of the reviews and even done research on previous HTC models just to learn a little bit more about HTC in general.
I'd honestly read a lot of bad reviews regarding previous iterations of Sense, with the main complaints being against Sense 4.
As I'm not the kind of guy who bases my decisions on reviews they didn't stop me wanting to get the One. Afterall, even if I didn't like Sense 5 I could always flash an AOSP ROM or use a custom launcher anyway. I will admit, however, that I've got no complaints whatsoever regarding Sense 5 as it is great.
Having said that, I am currently using Apex launcher but that's just so that I can customize my homescreen more so than I can with the stock UI.

Some great replies guys, thanks. With my Desire HD, I used the ARHD rom for a while, so I stuck with the stock Sense experience, but I was rooted. I tried many times to go to CM, etc, but I always came back to Sense. I loved the Sense apps, email, etc. But eventually I had to switch because of lag. And then months later when I tried to go back to Sense, I couldn't..too slow.
So it sounds promising to me that I can basically get the HTC One, and go with the stock (but rooted of course) experience for a while. And with the specs of this phone, I'll be able to move on to the latest and great (Key Lime Pie) when it comes out.

Switching from S3 to M7

Hi, I am a visitor from the s3 forums,
I am thinking of switching to the HTC one,
Background about me: Have rooted all my previous android devices (TF101. Captivate (sgh-897) Gnex, s3)
I have a couple questions,
Questions:
Any quirks?
How different is sense from aosp
How much storage are you given? (32 GB)
Are the devs nice here?
Is it hard to root and unlock bootloader?
What is s-off and what does it do?
Does the beats amp work with AOSP roms?

Coming from the S4, I personally love this phone. Sense is much better than Touchwiz. Easy to root and unlock the bootloader. The Devs are some of the best I've seen. Very helpful, and the Roms are pretty much flawless
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The devs are awesome here very committed and helpful. But you do get your odd xda member who is really rude. Sure it's the case anywhere though. It's easy to root and unlock bootloader. Takes about ten minutes longer than a nexus if you know what your doing. S off is a bit harder. But that's probs cause I don't know what am doing with that yet and don't feel a need for it. Not sure about last question .
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dbaler said:
Hi, I am a visitor from the s3 forums,
I am thinking of switching to the HTC one,
Background about me: Have rooted all my previous android devices (TF101. Captivate (sgh-897) Gnex, s3)
I have a couple questions,
Questions:
Any quirks?
How different is sense from aosp
How much storage are you given? (32 GB)
Are the devs nice here?
Is it hard to root and unlock bootloader?
What is s-off and what does it do?
Does the beats amp work with AOSP roms?
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1. quirks:
(hardware) camera issues if the phone is manufactured pre-july 2013 (check the forums for details, search for "red tint").
(cosmetic) check for gaps between the white plastic and the aluminium parts of the phone - they are less then 1/5mm but if you're a maniac like me, you will notice, if not you will probably not even notice them.
(hardware) check for dead or stuck pixels - you need to be really thorough as the pixels are sooooo small. The dpi for this phone is ridiculous, you'll love it!
Be sure to get a phone that has valid warranty as all these problems are warranty-covered!
2. sense:
sense is a love or hate thing - i personally love it. it's like a polished aosp with very eye-catching animations and design and much improved features (example: the mail app is brilliant, the calendar is awesome, the browser is blazing fast and still supports flash player, the dialer is brilliant, the camera interface is very well organised, the gallery app is very nice, etc..). If you do not like it you can always go GPE and run aosp roms anyway.
3. storage:
the phone comes in 32 or 64 GB storage variants. For the 32 GB option which i have, the user space available when i do a factory reset is of 29.98 GB.
4. devs:
the devs are a blessing. Really nice and helpful and always keep us up-to-date with custom ROMs
5. root and unlock:
the unlocking process is a piece of cake ans also is rooting. You will find a bunch of very informative tutorials both step-by step text and also video tuts on the forum. If you have difficulties, you can also ask questions on that threads and the users will surely give you a helping hand.
6. s-off:
s-off is basically a more advanced bootloader unlock. It allows you to do more modifications to your phone then bootloader unlock such as: downgrading, flashing custom HBOOTS, flashing radios, etc. The process of S-offing itself is very easy but you have to be very well documented in advance as you have to prepare the phone for the process and s-offing differs according to your current HBOOT version. But, of course, there are very detailed threds regarding this also.
7. beats:
yes, this feature is also available for GPE AOSP
P.S. is you come from the S3 or any other Sammy the first things you will notice:
-the screen will look very unimpressive at first because it's a SLCD and not an AMOLED. This means more accurate color gamut. The AMOLED tends to exaggerate color tones and this makes it look more vibrant. In time though you will notice that the SLCD is superiour in color reproduction as the range of colors it reproduces is higher and also, when you print or look at pictures taken with the phone on a pc screen or tv you will notice that they correspond to what's actually displayed on the phone itself. The dpi capability of the phone's display is also ridiculous..AFAIK it is the best on the market.
-the power/unlock button is idiotically placed (left top side) - WTF were htc thinking..but i got used to it and you will probably do too.
-the build quality and design is superb. The phone feels like a solid piece of matter in your hand. It doesn't squeak or squeal as the sammys plastic casing does. YOU WILL LOVE THIS
-the sound quality is superb. Both on speakers and also on headphones (especially if you have HQ headphones - do not be fooled into buying beats: they are good but too expensive for what they offer. You can get better headphones for that money (i reccomend jays - www.jays.se))
-overall, you will notice that the phone feels more premium, more mature than the samsung. The sammy feels more like a toy, while the htc feels more like a device. Both have their issues and problems but i have come to love this phone and hope you will do too.
Hope i covered all your questions and welcome to the HTC side of Xda!

upgraded from Galaxy S2 a few days ago
The Screen;
I love amoled - People always mention how saturated it is like a bad thing. The cartoony colour effect is beneficial in making text etc 'pop' on screen. I don't use the phone as a primary 'picture' viewer. However, the HTC screen is awesome . I thought low light reading in the dark would strain the eyes but it doesn't. The colour and contrast range is brilliant.
Button layout;
The volume buttons are indented and flat so you can't even feel where they are. The power button is all the way on the top, and then you have to get your thumb to the bottom of the screen and flick up. This is next to impossible with one hand. Being used to already pressing either power button as I took my galaxy out of pocket this is annoying. On stock sense you can't even deactivate the lock screen.
Apparently Kernals let you tap the home buttom or volume button to unlock the phone. A few apps use the phones sensors to 'wake' the screen so I'm going to play about with it.

qbanlinxx said:
Coming from the S4, I personally love this phone. Sense is much better than Touchwiz. Easy to root and unlock the bootloader. The Devs are some of the best I've seen. Very helpful, and the Roms are pretty much flawless
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So, if I were to get the att version, would I be able to flash the roms on this forum straight, or would i have to the get the international version?