Note vs Moto G - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm looking for a secondary phone for my Note and wondered whether the Moto G will actually outperform our Note?
I was specifically looking into the performance differences between the Notes dual A9 vs the Moto G's Quad A7. I read that our A9 is a little more advanced but can't find any benchmarks.
For £130ish it seems a steal!
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In terms of performance then the Moto will smash the Gloat™.

My bet is that it is faster, or in other terms snappier and smoother than the Note. It's only £130 so I would just get it.
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Keep in mind that Motorola has also hardware-optimised its version of Android for their devices.
Look at the Moto X; the real-life performance of its dual-core processor was comparable to Snapdragon 600 devices, and its GPU outperforms the Galaxy S4.
So I would say go for the Moto G.

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Hi I have the oprtunity to trade my Galaxy s 2 for a note. Trade one phone for the other and pay up to 90 euros . Should I do it ? Is the note better?
Yep! Note is better, go for it!
zemariaabreusantos said:
Hi I have the oprtunity to trade my Galaxy s 2 for a note. Trade one phone for the other and pay up to 90 euros . Should I do it ? Is the note better?
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Well technically both the phones are same on the inside.
Samsung Galaxy Note – Dual Core 1.4 Ghz ARM Cortex A9 processor - Exynos
Samsung Galaxy S II – Dual core 1.2 Ghz ARM Cortex A9 processor - Exynos
Both the phone gets graphical acceleration through the Mali 400 MP GPU.
The difference is the screen size.
Samsung Galaxy Note – 5.3 inches Super AMOLED Capacitive touchscreen display
Samsung Galaxy S II – 4.3 inches Super AMOLED Capacitive touchscreen display
The Samsung Galaxy S II is powered with Li-ion 1650 mAh battery while Note is powered with standard Li-ion 2500 mAh battery.
So make you choice if you want and can be comfortable with the large screen size to handle.
Personally i love the screen and size of it
Edit: And yeah you have the stylus and the higher resolution (HD) screen apart from the size.
Cheers!
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You forgot that the Note has a beautiful HD screen, while the gs2 is slightly above VGA. The note also has a stylus, which is super useful when you need it. But the screen is so superior you just have to get the Note.
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I moved from S2 to a Note, and I'm really glad I did - mainly because of the fantastic screen, which makes it much nicer to do any kind of writing based work. Was out last night and a girl with an S2 said, "I WANT YOUR PHONE!" Lol.
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Colingajewski said:
I moved from S2 to a Note, and I'm really glad I did - mainly because of the fantastic screen, which makes it much nicer to do any kind of writing based work. Was out last night and a girl with an S2 said, "I WANT YOUR PHONE!" Lol.
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Lol! That's not what you want to hear from a girl!
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abhisahara said:
Well technically both the phones are same on the inside.
Samsung Galaxy Note – Dual Core 1.4 Ghz ARM Cortex A9 processor - Exynos
Samsung Galaxy S II – Dual core 1.2 Ghz ARM Cortex A9 processor - Exynos
Both the phone gets graphical acceleration through the Mali 400 MP GPU.
The difference is the screen size.
Samsung Galaxy Note – 5.3 inches Super AMOLED Capacitive touchscreen display
Samsung Galaxy S II – 4.3 inches Super AMOLED Capacitive touchscreen display
The Samsung Galaxy S II is powered with Li-ion 1650 mAh battery while Note is powered with standard Li-ion 2500 mAh battery.
So make you choice if you want and can be comfortable with the large screen size to handle.
Personally i love the screen and size of it
Edit: And yeah you have the stylus and the higher resolution (HD) screen apart from the size.
Cheers!
Hit thanks if it helped!
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HM.. I know about the specs and all.. I'm just uncertain due to the physical size and i'm stiil thinking about the Galaxy nexus as well anyway thank

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friends i wanted to buy a new phone can u suggest me which phone is perfect for buying about cost of 16000
1.nokia lumia 720
2.samsung galaxy grand
3.galaxy s advance
4.htc
5.sony
6.micromax
say me which phone is better snd model.number of that phone
thanks aa lot
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Hi.
I just switched from my galaxy s advance to the Motorola moto g.
Where I live the Galaxy s advance is still more expensive than the new moto g.
Moto g has better CPU, GPU, display size and resolution, update to 4.4.2 kitkat, louder speaker.
Galaxy s advance has micro SD card slot and changeable battery, which both the moto g has not. There is only a 8 and a 16gb version.
I don't know about the other phones but maybe there are phones from "wiko" available where you live, you find phones in their product range that have similar pricing and specifications like the moto G.
I'm glad that i left the galaxy advance for the Motorola, it's so much faster and better. And touchwiz from Samsung is too overloaded for me.
Sgsa vs moto g:
CPU: 1ghz dualcore vs 1,2ghz quad core
RAM: 768mb vs 1gb
Display: 4inch 480*840 vs 4,5inch 720*1280 (the phone has nearly the same size)
Battery: 1500mah vs 2070mah
USB-otg: no vs yes
Os: 4.1.2 jb vs 4.4.2 kitkat
Just some information about the specs.
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thanku for ur information:beer:
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[Q] Is it an Upgrade?

Hello,
Right now I have Galaxy Note N700, the original Note, and I am considering buying the new Moto G.
Do you consider this as an upgrade over my 3 year old phone specs wise?
When I compare it in GSM Arena, they are almost identical except for the processor which is Exynos 4210 for my old Note and Snapdragon 400 for the Moto G. When I google their differences, it seems that the Exynos chip is still more powerful than the Snapdragon 400 but the former is Dual Core 1.4 GHz Cortex A9 while the latter is Quad Core 1.2 GHz Cortex A7.
So is this a worthy upgrade? Because I do not wana buy expensive phones anymore, I will be needing it for call and texts, FB, browsing and some light gaming only.
Thank you!
Buy Moto G Asap!!
Upgrade Your Phone!! Buy Moto G (2nd Gen) cheap price. and smooth than butter. very fast phone. its feel like nexus phone. Moto G is Awsum device. with upgrade Garenty From motorola. Moto G also will get android lemon pie(5.0) on Jan to Feb. :good:
The Moto G is worth every dollar. Is go for it. It runs smooth, has a nice size and great build overall.
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The Asus ZenFone 5 has piqued my interest. More RAM, faster processor, same display, same with MicroSD slot.
Asus Zenfone 5 may not get the Android L update.
What to buy...
I have a get a "cheap phone" and a "expensive Tablet" attitude.
allansy said:
The Asus ZenFone 5 has piqued my interest. More RAM, faster processor, same display, same with MicroSD slot.
Asus Zenfone 5 may not get the Android L update.
What to buy...
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Buy Moto G
allansy said:
Hello,
Right now I have Galaxy Note N700, the original Note, and I am considering buying the new Moto G.
Do you consider this as an upgrade over my 3 year old phone specs wise?
When I compare it in GSM Arena, they are almost identical except for the processor which is Exynos 4210 for my old Note and Snapdragon 400 for the Moto G. When I google their differences, it seems that the Exynos chip is still more powerful than the Snapdragon 400 but the former is Dual Core 1.4 GHz Cortex A9 while the latter is Quad Core 1.2 GHz Cortex A7.
So is this a worthy upgrade? Because I do not wana buy expensive phones anymore, I will be needing it for call and texts, FB, browsing and some light gaming only.
Thank you!
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If you are happy with your Note, software is ok and everything els is fine, I would stay on Note
It will probably be an experience upgrade, because the Moto software is very light. I have touchwiz on a Note 10.1 (2014) and the Samsung bloat sucks. That said, my advice is get a first-gen G 16GB model while they are still available cheap. My impression is aside from not having expandable storage, it is a better phone (all same specifications except screen size, but the resolution did not improve). If you are willing to hold-off a bit and wait for a new mid-price phone option, the new Nexus should be out within a month or 2.
It is a worthy upgrade from the original G and the old Note. You will get Android L with this device as well. Read my review here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55536919
Just remember this is a budget phone at $180, when the Note came out it was $800. In any case it's still a better phone because of stock Android and useful Motorola additions. The new Nexus will probably be $400. (I don't think it will be $349 this time).
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I have moved from the N7000 to a G and it's great, initially I wanted the bigger screen, but the whole package on the G is faster smoother and generally easier to use, not so much stuff you won't ever use! It also fits in your pocket easily.
At the prices of the G at the moment try it, you will be surprised
I will skip on the original G since I really need the SD Card slot. That is why I am considering Moto G 2014.
I am using SlimKat now on my Note I. It lags but it is acceptable compare to when I flashed a JellyBean stock rom.
What is limiting for me with the G 2014 is the 1GB ram, because right now with my Note, it cannot handle a lot of apps. It will always open a new app and not from where I left it.
e.g.
The Chrome browser is really slow on my Note, not slow because of internet connection but slow because it just lags a lot.
Plays Youtube with stutters.
Facebook after clicking on an external link and returning to FB will start from the top.
I am also looking at Asus Zenfone 5, another value for money device.
I like the specs but there is no dedicated XDA thread for this device. It means no development.
The reason I am still holding on to my GNote and still acceptable for daily use is because there is still few developments happening, I still got Kitkat.
In that case, I would recommend a bigger jump and get a mobile phone with 2GB of ram
At Moto G's price point, do you recommend any other than Asus Zenfone 5?

Droid Turbo xt1254 vs Xiaomi Mi 5

Hi guys,
I own Motorola Droid Turbo, ever since I have seen Xiaomi Mi 5, I am leaning towards it.
How wise will it be to replace Droid Turbo with Xiaomi Mi 5?
The Droid Turbo is not very old and has a very decent cpu (I think it was 805 ,or not?).So performance should be fine.But if this isn't enough for you MI5 is a good choice (has 820).
The MI5 doesn't have all LTE Bands ,which might be a problem in your country.
webcool123 said:
The Droid Turbo is not very old and has a very decent cpu (I think it was 805 ,or not?).So performance should be fine.But if this isn't enough for you MI5 is a good choice (has 820).
The MI5 doesn't have all LTE Bands ,which might be a problem in your country.
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Thanks for reply.
LTE is not a problem, we are yet to use it in our country in coming days.
Yes. Droid Turbo is powered with 805 Snapdragon.
One of the prime reasons I am leaning towards Mi 5 is its DUAl-SIM support, other interests include, better CPU 820, light-weight and amazing design.
I am not sure about Mi 5 durability, both internal and external. From Internet reviews I think Mi 5 is fragile device...

is it worth to sell of my moto x style /(pure) and get this?

i am using moto x style with stock android 7.0 (unlocked) since 2 years... great phone no regrets but only features missing are finger print scanner and pro mode(which is main feature)
is it worth enough to buy moto x 4?? is snapdragon 630 better then snapdragon 821?? does the dual camera has the pro mode in it?
i know alexa is **** but i don't use google assistant also anyways..
will it get oreo update and other future updates? (android N??)
is it dual sim?(for asian/indian variant)?
Main question (does it have VOLTE support/band 40) for Rjio??
Well, I have the Moto X Play, and I have preordered my new X4... Can't wait! Yes, the camera has the pro mode, the 630 is a great chipset, although quite similar to the 821 - the only major difference being the extra cores in the 630 making it 1.5x faster. The big things for me to look forward to in the upgrade is the better camera, the waterproofing, the new Bluetooth technology and the fingerprint scanner. Plus I get rid of the cracked screen on my poor X Play :crying:
And yes, it likely will get Oreo, and because Moto devices are pretty much stock, it will probably get it quicker than most other manufacturers. Regarding the dual-sim - it probably will be in Asia, GSM Arena has both dual and single sim variants listed, but they don't say which LTE bands are supported.
Duck86 said:
Well, I have the Moto X Play, and I have preordered my new X4... Can't wait! Yes, the camera has the pro mode, the 630 is a great chipset, although quite similar to the 821 - the only major difference being the extra cores in the 630 making it 1.5x faster. The big things for me to look forward to in the upgrade is the better camera, the waterproofing, the new Bluetooth technology and the fingerprint scanner. Plus I get rid of the cracked screen on my poor X Play :crying:
And yes, it likely will get Oreo, and because Moto devices are pretty much stock, it will probably get it quicker than most other manufacturers. Regarding the dual-sim - it probably will be in Asia, GSM Arena has both dual and single sim variants listed, but they don't say which LTE bands are supported.
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thankyou for information
yes it's getting oreo+it'll be now getting updates by google (android 1)
it do support all band's as i saw the snapdragon 630 chip-set band's it does has band 40 so no worries
by the way for how much did you pre order it?? i'd like to know by when is it going to be with you?
Sagar the Moto spec. page has the 4X phone bands listed as below, I don't see band 40 but who knows it could come later:
Network bands (by model)
4G LTE (Cat11 DL, Cat5 UL)
CDMA / EVDO Rev A
UMTS / HSPA+
GSM / EDGE
2G: GSM band 2/3/5/8 CDMA BC 0/1/10
3G: WCDMA band 1/2/4/5/8
4G: FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/66
TDD LTE band 38/41
Sagar_1401 said:
i am using moto x style with stock android 7.0 (unlocked) since 2 years... great phone no regrets but only features missing are finger print scanner and pro mode(which is main feature)
is it worth enough to buy moto x 4?? is snapdragon 630 better then snapdragon 821?? does the dual camera has the pro mode in it?
i know alexa is **** but i don't use google assistant also anyways..
will it get oreo update and other future updates? (android N??)
is it dual sim?(for asian/indian variant)?
Main question (does it have VOLTE support/band 40) for Rjio??
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Snapdragon 821 is the chipset in the Google Pixel. Probably about 3x more powerful than the 630.
I assume the 630 is going to perform similarly to your Moto X Style's Snapdragon 808, due to the fact it is running at full HD instead of the Style's QHD resolution.
quakeaz said:
Snapdragon 821 is the chipset in the Google Pixel. Probably about 3x more powerful than the 630.
I assume the 630 is going to perform similarly to your Moto X Style's Snapdragon 808, due to the fact it is running at full HD instead of the Style's QHD resolution.
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Are there any resources comparing IPC in these chipsets and in chipset lines (8xx/6xx)? I had assumed they'd be on similar architecture, and the clock difference between 630 and 808 would make the 630 faster per core.
Edit: so I spent some time searching for this, and my assumption was wrong. The A57 cores are significantly more powerful than the A53 at almost everything, to the order of 3-5x in some cases. https://www.anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review/3
In effect, the 5X's Snapdragon 808 being 2xA57+4xA53 is in fact likely more powerful than the 4xA53+4xA53 configuration of the Snapdragon 630. It's too bad they didn't go with Snapdragon 660 for the X4.
birckston said:
Are there any resources comparing IPC in these chipsets and in chipset lines (8xx/6xx)? I had assumed they'd be on similar architecture, and the clock difference between 630 and 808 would make the 630 faster per core.
Edit: so I spent some time searching for this, and my assumption was wrong. The A57 cores are significantly more powerful than the A53 at almost everything, to the order of 3-5x in some cases. https://www.anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review/3
In effect, the 5X's Snapdragon 808 being 2xA57+4xA53 is in fact likely more powerful than the 4xA53+4xA53 configuration of the Snapdragon 630. It's too bad they didn't go with Snapdragon 660 for the X4.
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I didn't read through most of that article, but it is 2 years old and also I couldn't find any straight comparison between the cores in there while skimming. But I think only comparing the actual multi-core chips running makes sense, particularly since they have different quantities of cores and a mixed bag in one case. Plus apparently at different clock speeds.
I did find this, which gives a 20% edge to the 630 in "Total Clock Speed". No indication how that is measured. Also it can handle higher speed RAM, but of course would have to actually be paired with higher speed RAM. The 630 is also 14nm vs 20 nm for the 808, so the 630 should use less power. Except it runs more cores at a higher clock speed, so who knows what the net is.
https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-630-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-808-msm8992
The 630 can run "Up to 2.2 GHz"
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/qualcomm-snapdragon-630-mobile-platform
The 808 can run "Up to 2.0 GHz"
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/808
GSMArena has the Moto X4 running the 630 "Octa-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A53" and the Nexus 5X running the 808 "Hexa-core (4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & 2x1.8 GHz Cortex-A57)." Seems like all 8 running at 2.2 GHz should be faster versus 4 at 1.4GHz plus 2 at 1.8 GHz, even if the big cores are better performers. Edit: Other sites, including the LG site have the 5X at 1.8 GHz. But that could also be a marketing thing of using the max clock speed in the specs. Either way, it is quite a different speed than 2.2 GHz.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x4-8634.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5x-7556.php
Age old debate... all other things equal, an 808 will still kill a 630 on a per-core operation level.
For example, if you are a gamer, an 808 platform will perform better. If you are not, the 625 will probably be better at day-to-day tasks, and have better battery life.
It all comes down to individual usage. I do some multitrack audio recording on a Nexus 6p, and it performs well. I am not expecting my X4 to do the same
Is it confirmed that the Fi version of X4 has Bluetooth 5.0, Google's page mentions 4.2, but Moto's page mentions it having Bluetooth 5.0.
saketkutta said:
Is it confirmed that the Fi version of X4 has Bluetooth 5.0, Google's page mentions 4.2, but Moto's page mentions it having Bluetooth 5.0.
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If I had to take a guess, the Moto page is probably the correct one. My understanding is that both phones will have the exact same specs, just different software.
If I also had to take a guess, the X4 will probably be locked down on the standard Motorola version. I am hoping it will have an unlockable option for the Project Fi version.
But the Adreno 508 is about as powerful a GPU as the Adreno 418, plus with the Full HD display and 14nm node process, the X4 would beat the X Pure quite easily in gaming. On a per-core basis, the A57's of the X Pure are handily superior to the A53's of the X4, but collectively, the X4's SD630>X Pure's 808. Two 4-core clusters of A53s, 2.2GHz and 1.8GHz respectively on a 14nm process, do perform better than a Dual and Quad-core combination of 1.8GHz A57s and 1.44GHz A53s.
Just to clarify, the Fi X4 is Bluetooth 5.0 compatible but Bluetooth 5.0 will be enabled on it with the Oreo update.
SD630 Benchmark.
Total: 70,013
3D: 18,136
UX: 25,614
CPU: 21,248
SD808 Benchmark.
Total: 67,286
3D: 21,245
UX: 24,774
CPU: 16,460
These numbers say what we pretty much already knew: The SD630 with its more cores is better in multithreaded benchmarks, and will probably be a very smooth phone to use. However, without the A57 cores and with the slower GPU, it won't be quite as fast for gaming. It should get better battery life, however, since it's based on 14nm, and those A57 cores are a HOG on power.
Note: I choose to use the 7.1.2 numbers for the Nexus 5x (SD808) because that's what the X4 is running. It will get Oreo "before the end of the year" however.

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