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A request to the people who've already got their nexus 4!
Can you take some pictures in-doors in relatively ****ty light conditions? I want to see how your flash works.
When taking pictures with flash on I've noticed that the ISO the phone uses is very high.. 800? It's like the phone does not know its using the flash.
I have taken some pics with my old HTC wildfire s and the nexus 4 to compare them - here are the results:
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Can someone please take some flash photos from up-close with their nexus 4 for a comparison?
Thanks!
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I can take some sample pics later but I have noticed the flash blowing out pictures when in marginal lighting conditions (indoors+early morning+no overhead lighting) to the point that I'm better off turning the flash off because the camera does a much better job without it.
And at night I've been opting for HDR.
You can see here how the woodgrain gets blown out, I'll post more pics as I take them.
For comparison here is the same shot with no flash.
This will happen with any camera that is used right up close like that.
Another stupid thread trying to find problems.
It doesn't happen with my sensation or pm1, so it doesn't happen with every camera and I just did an upclose shot to demonstrate.
I had to go through my pictures but I found some that show the same issue and a completely different issue when using the flash. I'm sure these things will be fixed with software but flash photography is certainly not the n4's strong suit, although I do find low light photography to be pretty good.
tehrules said:
This will happen with any camera that is used right up close like that.
Another stupid thread trying to find problems.
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have you even seen the pictures from the original post? They were taken with two different mobile phone cameras, both with FLASH ON!
Maybe the nexus 4 flash is just more powerful than the flashes you used previously.
trio151 said:
Maybe the nexus 4 flash is just more powerful than the flashes you used previously.
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That isn't how flashes should work, the software should do a bit of metering and then limit output for the situation it seems that this isn't happening correctly (it is happening because the N4 will flash before the picture is taken) which is why I think it will be fixed in a software update.
i think its bug with camera driver
Has anyone tried after todays update?
Disastorm said:
Has anyone tried after todays update?
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Problem still exists.
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tehrules said:
This will happen with any camera that is used right up close like that.
Another stupid thread trying to find problems.
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If you don't like it why bother to comment? Lol,
I have found the flash being too strong a bit of a frustration it's not a deal breaker but it is something they could sort, thankfully it can still take reasonable shots without the flash in many lighting situations.
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Does the Nexus 4 really have a flash or is it just a light that comes on and stays on when in camera mode with flash selected. I mean is the light off and then flash on when the shutter is activated?
As mentioned, I find HDR helps a lot in low light. It does use the flash, but I am not sure if it is for the shot or for pre-shot metering.
Michael
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donec said:
Does the Nexus 4 really have a flash or is it just a light that comes on and stays on when in camera mode with flash selected. I mean is the light off and then flash on when the shutter is activated?
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It's a regular flash that comes on as needed. Stays on only for video.
Oh yea, it does sometimes stay lit for longer than I would have thought for HDR. But I think that is a plus that it can even use flash in HDR mode (my iPhone doesn't).
Michael
donec said:
Does the Nexus 4 really have a flash or is it just a light that comes on and stays on when in camera mode with flash selected. I mean is the light off and then flash on when the shutter is activated?
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Yes it pre lights the subject to meter and then flashes again when the picture is taken.
You guys can always try different apps. I used zoom in think it s called on my i9001 s plus.
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Yes, the flash feels definitely a bit wonky compared to my S3. I also find that sometimes even after I touch to focus, it refocuses and takes a blurry picture anyways. That and because the touch screen is less sensitive than I'm used to, I usually miss the shutter button the first time and end up pressing harder and shaking/moving the camera the second time.
I'll try to replicate your flash shots but looking at out of the box first shots in auto WB i can tell that either the sensor, optics, software or combination of all three result in pathetic images for a flagship camera. My 3mp samsung produces better pictures. Will try to post some pictures tomorrow.
Hello tonight I was taking some pictures in night mode, and the camera was so laggy in night mode, something it freezes. Then after I notice that a weirs purple tint was in the camera and I cannot get rid of it. Here is a screenshot
Is it a hardware or software problem can it be solved??
Thanks in advanced guys
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Can't say
Backup all you data in cwm and do a data wipe and see.
If it doesn't work then it's a hardware problem.
I did it but still the same =(
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renehd2 said:
Hello tonight I was taking some pictures in night mode, and the camera was so laggy in night mode, something it freezes. Then after I notice that a weirs purple tint was in the camera and I cannot get rid of it. Here is a screenshot
Is it a hardware or software problem can it be solved??
Thanks in advanced guys
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You didn't happen to point your camera into any lasers or anything extremely bright? Looks like your sensor has packed it in.
Amrut223 said:
You didn't happen to point your camera into any lasers or anything extremely bright? Looks like your sensor has packed it in.
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I don´t remember using my camera even near to something extremely bright. today im also noticing that it get get focus to something that is close, not even with Macro setting. do you think can i send my phone to HTC to get the problem solved?
how much will it cost me if im from mexico and my phone its an at&t HTC One.
if I bought it from craigslist, is there any problem with the warranty?
thanks in advanced guys
renehd2 said:
Hello tonight I was taking some pictures in night mode, and the camera was so laggy in night mode, something it freezes. Then after I notice that a weirs purple tint was in the camera and I cannot get rid of it. Here is a screenshot
Is it a hardware or software problem can it be solved??
Thanks in advanced guys
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go to normal mode and set brightness to 0+
u will see laggy camera again
i experienced this in all my devices (but maybe some of them were more laggy)
anyway if u can, compare ur phone side by side with another htc one or anther phone
then if u get something abnormal in ur camera then try to;
update (if available)
disable/enable camera.apk
reset to factory
and finally flash another ROM (for example stock rom of another country) & flash another stock kernel
if problem remains after these tests then be sure ur phone has hardware problem and take it to service for replace
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x102x96x said:
go to normal mode and set brightness to 0+
u will see laggy camera again
i experienced this in all my devices (but maybe some of them were more laggy)
anyway if u can, compare ur phone side by side with another htc one or anther phone
then if u get something abnormal in ur camera then try to;
update (if available)
disable/enable camera.apk
reset to factory
and finally flash another ROM (for example stock rom of another country) & flash another stock kernel
if problem remains after these tests then be sure ur phone has hardware problem and take it to service for replace
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My brother has a black AT&T HTC one and we are rooted, etc. With the same rom, his camera is ok but mine doesn't macro focus, have blur corners when taking pictures, and at night a purple tint appears on top of the phone in portrait (left in landscape) and a little purple dots all around the camera.
The weird thing is that I can just see that purple tint at night.
I noticed this last Friday and I have 2 weeks with the phone (i bought it one month old)
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All htc ones lag in low light. I don't know why, but they do. I don't know about the purple stuff though. And the purple "dots" just look like image noise to me. Unless you mean something else.
aooga said:
All htc ones lag in low light. I don't know why, but they do. I don't know about the purple stuff though. And the purple "dots" just look like image noise to me. Unless you mean something else.
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It lags in low light because if it moved at 30-60 fps each frame wouldn't capture enough light. Just like shutter speed on a camera.
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That blog hasn't been updated since 2011. Why is it in your .sig?
Squirrel1620 said:
It lags in low light because if it moved at 30-60 fps each frame wouldn't capture enough light. Just like shutter speed on a camera.
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Yes, but the lumia 920 gives you a lower light preview which is lag free, but takes the picture with the full quality. I'm just wondering why htc didn't do this. I guess both ways have their pros and cons.
I think there is a camera bug that makes people in photos taken with flash seem yellowish in auto mode.
Is there a solution ?
Also what can i do for the sucky quality i mean come on its 8 mp camera that takes ****y photos!
jackaros said:
I think there is a camera bug that makes people in photos taken with flash seem yellowish in auto mode.
Is there a solution ?
Also what can i do for the sucky quality i mean come on its 8 mp camera that takes ****y photos!
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I also noticed that. When I take pics with flash on, the pics are all "yellowish", like u said.
Deathless93 said:
I also noticed that. When I take pics with flash on, the pics are all "yellowish", like u said.
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Yeah i dont think thats a camera thing ... i believe its a firmware bug
Change the white balance setting
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ZakooZ said:
Change the white balance setting
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Tried it and got nicely colored but kinda blurry pictures.
it is not a Camera bug. if you bother to check the picture quality taken with other Xperia phones you will notice the same thing too. In fact, this extra yellow tinge goes all the way back to Sony Ericsson Cybershot K800, which was the first Cybershot phone I owned. I have no idea whether it is just a coincidence or whether it is inherent in Sony digital camera processing system.
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it is not a Camera bug. if you bother to check the picture quality taken with other Xperia phones you will notice the same thing too. In fact, this extra yellow tinge goes all the way back to Sony Ericsson Cybershot K800, which was the first Cybershot phone I owned. I have no idea whether it is just a coincidence or whether it is inherent in Sony digital camera processing system.
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i had K800i and i did not notice anything yellowish in the pictures..... but i think you are pretty much right,
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
Angelusz said:
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.
I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
Caffeineshock said:
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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Colorful !
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??
Angelusz said:
I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
Angelusz said:
Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
wezzel98765 said:
I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
guybrush2099 said:
there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.
wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Angelusz said:
Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.
yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
(sorry for the wrong rotation)
settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?
The front camera is extremely grainy on my new z1. It would look noisy on the screen and i would assume through image processing it would clear it up. but it would do it so the quality itself is very muddy and blurry.
I was able to capture a picture of myself that didnt seem to do the image processing for some reason, and then i took another right after and it did the clearing up of the noise. I attached both. anyone has any suggestions? is this normal? the only thing i can think of is maybe my screen protector is affecting something in the light sensors? cause it isnt even over the camera.
And mind you, these pics arent in the best lighting conditions, but it wasnt very dark as you can see a window behind me. running 4.3 stock update.
Seriously? The first pic on the left is very bad. Even if I try the worse settings I do not get that kind of pictures. Man, I do not know what to say.
eclyptos said:
Seriously? The first pic on the left is very bad. Even if I try the worse settings I do not get that kind of pictures. Man, I do not know what to say.
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I was never able to duplicate the first pic again. so im thinking that was just some sort of glitch. but the view on the screen before i took out both pics looked almost as bad, until it actually saved the pic (second).
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