Nexus 4 Flash Photography problems - Nexus 4 General

A request to the people who've already got their nexus 4!
Can you take some pictures in-doors in relatively ****ty light conditions? I want to see how your flash works.
When taking pictures with flash on I've noticed that the ISO the phone uses is very high.. 800? It's like the phone does not know its using the flash.
I have taken some pics with my old HTC wildfire s and the nexus 4 to compare them - here are the results:
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Can someone please take some flash photos from up-close with their nexus 4 for a comparison?
Thanks!

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I can take some sample pics later but I have noticed the flash blowing out pictures when in marginal lighting conditions (indoors+early morning+no overhead lighting) to the point that I'm better off turning the flash off because the camera does a much better job without it.
And at night I've been opting for HDR.

You can see here how the woodgrain gets blown out, I'll post more pics as I take them.

For comparison here is the same shot with no flash.

This will happen with any camera that is used right up close like that.
Another stupid thread trying to find problems.

It doesn't happen with my sensation or pm1, so it doesn't happen with every camera and I just did an upclose shot to demonstrate.
I had to go through my pictures but I found some that show the same issue and a completely different issue when using the flash. I'm sure these things will be fixed with software but flash photography is certainly not the n4's strong suit, although I do find low light photography to be pretty good.

tehrules said:
This will happen with any camera that is used right up close like that.
Another stupid thread trying to find problems.
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have you even seen the pictures from the original post? They were taken with two different mobile phone cameras, both with FLASH ON!

Maybe the nexus 4 flash is just more powerful than the flashes you used previously.

trio151 said:
Maybe the nexus 4 flash is just more powerful than the flashes you used previously.
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That isn't how flashes should work, the software should do a bit of metering and then limit output for the situation it seems that this isn't happening correctly (it is happening because the N4 will flash before the picture is taken) which is why I think it will be fixed in a software update.

i think its bug with camera driver

Has anyone tried after todays update?

Disastorm said:
Has anyone tried after todays update?
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Problem still exists.
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tehrules said:
This will happen with any camera that is used right up close like that.
Another stupid thread trying to find problems.
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If you don't like it why bother to comment? Lol,
I have found the flash being too strong a bit of a frustration it's not a deal breaker but it is something they could sort, thankfully it can still take reasonable shots without the flash in many lighting situations.
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Does the Nexus 4 really have a flash or is it just a light that comes on and stays on when in camera mode with flash selected. I mean is the light off and then flash on when the shutter is activated?

As mentioned, I find HDR helps a lot in low light. It does use the flash, but I am not sure if it is for the shot or for pre-shot metering.
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donec said:
Does the Nexus 4 really have a flash or is it just a light that comes on and stays on when in camera mode with flash selected. I mean is the light off and then flash on when the shutter is activated?
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It's a regular flash that comes on as needed. Stays on only for video.
Oh yea, it does sometimes stay lit for longer than I would have thought for HDR. But I think that is a plus that it can even use flash in HDR mode (my iPhone doesn't).
Michael

donec said:
Does the Nexus 4 really have a flash or is it just a light that comes on and stays on when in camera mode with flash selected. I mean is the light off and then flash on when the shutter is activated?
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Yes it pre lights the subject to meter and then flashes again when the picture is taken.

You guys can always try different apps. I used zoom in think it s called on my i9001 s plus.
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Yes, the flash feels definitely a bit wonky compared to my S3. I also find that sometimes even after I touch to focus, it refocuses and takes a blurry picture anyways. That and because the touch screen is less sensitive than I'm used to, I usually miss the shutter button the first time and end up pressing harder and shaking/moving the camera the second time.

I'll try to replicate your flash shots but looking at out of the box first shots in auto WB i can tell that either the sensor, optics, software or combination of all three result in pathetic images for a flagship camera. My 3mp samsung produces better pictures. Will try to post some pictures tomorrow.

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Very Pixelated Pictures?

So maybe I have a setting wrong or this is just how the phone is, but every photo I've taken so far has looks very pixelated. It looks great on the phone screen but as soon as I upload it to facebook it looks like junk.
Any ideas?
Facebook and many other places online to share pics reduce the size of pics quite a bit. I'd blame fb rather than the phone.
You could also check settings in camera to see if it's set to a lower megapixel than the 4mp maximum just to be sure.
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Well it should be pixelated because 1) dark areas on many camera shot have noise and 2) ultra pixels are larger than normal so on this cam we get decent day shots and awesome night shot.
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gk1984 said:
Facebook and many other places online to share pics reduce the size of pics quite a bit. I'd blame fb rather than the phone.
You could also check settings in camera to see if it's set to a lower megapixel than the 4mp maximum just to be sure.
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Where is that under the camera settings. I see Video Quality, but I dont see anything that lists photo quality/pixel size.
Well you're right. I swear I saw the option to change resolution but I can't find it again
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howie411 said:
So maybe I have a setting wrong or this is just how the phone is, but every photo I've taken so far has looks very pixelated. It looks great on the phone screen but as soon as I upload it to facebook it looks like junk.
Any ideas?
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I don't know if this is the problem or not, but here's my input (I'm a photographer):
There isn't any zoom on the camera lens, so when you "zoom," all you're effectively doing is cropping. The One doesn't resize the image, so it could create a pretty small image if you're zoomed in.
The other possibility (unless you're absolutely positive that the problem is pixelation) is that with the auto ISO setting, it might look grainy, especially in the dark. You can manually choose lower ISO, and yield a clearer (but darker) image.
Or, as the others have said, different apps may be the culprit. Have you tried loading the image directly from your phone to your computer?
UltraPixel= Larger pixels, great for night, not as good for during the day
http://www.androidcentral.com/megap...sung-galaxy-s4-versus-htc-one-camera-shootout
aman1127 said:
UltraPixel= Larger pixels, great for night, not as good for during the day
http://www.androidcentral.com/megap...sung-galaxy-s4-versus-htc-one-camera-shootout
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This has been discussed before in other threads. The camera sucks... This whole "Ultrapixle" crap is just a bunch of bull****.
I get great results from the camera. Day and night.
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Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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tkoreaper said:
This has been discussed before in other threads. The camera sucks... This whole "Ultrapixle" crap is just a bunch of bull****.
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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The camera would be better if it had manual focus. The tap to focus is crap and AF is non existent.
tsdeaton said:
Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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Amazing compared to what, a flip phone? I've already sent in my ONE to get it "fixed", but the camera still took poor quality pictures. My old S3 takes better pictures than this thing.
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Amazing compared to what, a flip phone? I've already sent in my ONE to get it "fixed", but the camera still took poor quality pictures. My old S3 takes better pictures than this thing.
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I agree it's the user but I have read instances where focus was an issue related to faulty hardware.
Proof the htc one camera is amazing - http://www.reddit.com/r/oneography
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gk1984 said:
I agree it's the user but I have read instances where focus was an issue related to faulty hardware.
Proof the htc one camera is amazing - http://www.reddit.com/r/oneography
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Those pictures are good, but not because of the camera... it's the scenery. However these pictures further prove my point. Look at those pictures and notice the blurry/hazy effect of everything not in the center on the picture. Look at the picture of the Red rocks... the whole right side looks like crap. Had these pictures been taken with my S3 the entire picture would be crisp.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...5879103770744579522&oid=114157047189530288078 is another good example. I can understand the background being way out of focus, but there's no excuse for the right side of the picture.
tsdeaton said:
Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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Way to add something "useful" to the conversation. Go troll elsewhere. I just asked a question.
tkoreaper said:
Those pictures are good, but not because of the camera... it's the scenery. However these pictures further prove my point. Look at those pictures and notice the blurry/hazy effect of everything not in the center on the picture. Look at the picture of the Red rocks... the whole right side looks like crap. Had these pictures been taken with my S3 the entire picture would be crisp.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...5879103770744579522&oid=114157047189530288078 is another good example. I can understand the background being way out of focus, but there's no excuse for the right side of the picture.
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There have been some cameras on the one with hardware problems that affect focus. One side or the other would be blurry. It's not how the camera is intended. But also keep in mind that the low f-stop this camera uses causes a shallow depth of field, which gives a blurred background or foreground effect. This is often an artsy look. It's a low f-stop to also let more light in.
By the way, the pic you linked to was one of mine and that blurred effect was what I was going for with the shallow depth of field. I switched on macro mode to get more of the effect. I get the same kind of pictures from my DSLR.
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howie411 said:
Way to add something "useful" to the conversation. Go troll elsewhere. I just asked a question.
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It's actually very useful information considering we see your problem every day. I'm telling you what the problem is and what it is not
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I would rather use my camera (that is designed to take pictures) to take pictures that I want to show off/print.. My camera phone is just for those quick "can't miss it" times.
Quick can't miss it moments, yes! Or when I forget to bring my camera. I printed an 8x10 of a great scenery recently and it turned out great
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tsdeaton said:
Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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Biggest load of crap I've ever read. Nothing you ever say makes sense to me since the LGOG threads.. If it's a mobile data issue why is it only a HTC One issue? You're the typical Sprint rep who says any bs to silence a customer. I've been uploading from a Evo LTE and a Note 2 in a very congested crappy data city with none of those issues. It's just how the camera is on the One, it is 4mp after all.. I myself was never amazed by the camera which is why I skipped on the One. Nice features but you can definitely see a loss of quality due to it being only a 4mp cam.
Ps I like how you say it's a mobile data thing but then say to reset your router :what: :screwy:
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[Q] How to get this camera to make good pictures

Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
Angelusz said:
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
z_harris said:
What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.
I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
Caffeineshock said:
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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Colorful !
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??
Angelusz said:
I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
Angelusz said:
Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
guybrush2099 said:
there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.
wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Angelusz said:
Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.
yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
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settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?

Xperia Z camera flash not working?

I'm trying to take pictures in darker areas but the flash doesn't seem to work? It will flash, but the picture won't come out with lighting, it remains dark.
My friends iPhone takes pictures just fine in dark areas. Is this an android issue or phone issue or what?
Are you using a modified camera app?
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id3alistic said:
I'm trying to take pictures in darker areas but the flash doesn't seem to work? It will flash, but the picture won't come out with lighting, it remains dark.
My friends iPhone takes pictures just fine in dark areas. Is this an android issue or phone issue or what?
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go to camera setting and set flash to auto
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Meh, I'm a noob. It's not a flash issue, it's a low light issue. I just realized that and was able to search through the forums about it. Need to change settings/use different camera app.

Android 4.4.2 Camera test

Hi all I just received the OTA for Android 4.4.2 so have put together a before and after comparing 4.4 to 4.4.2 for the Nexus 5 camera. Includes some full crop images and video capture as well as the all important autofocus test.
Very pleased with the results looks like Google have made big improvements all round to the camera.
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Thx for the vid man!
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You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Ben36 said:
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Maybe for you.. camcorder exposure is fine for me.
Stock 4.4.2 odexed
BoneXDA said:
Thx for the vid man!
Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
Ben36 said:
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
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No it's not. A rhetorical question is still a form of question, "you've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light" however is not, so the use of question mark is inappropriate? (See what I did there? <-- rhetorical question.)
xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
androidizen said:
Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
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I went 4.4->4.4.1->4.4.2
When I recorded that video, I used 4.4.1.
I tested later and had the same behavior in 4.4.2.
androidizen said:
I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
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I'm starting to think that we're all seeing the same thing and just coming up with different interpretations due to subjective differences. There's no other reason that everyone would be having such wildly different results using the same software and hardware.
All I know is that video recording on my phone in low light is MUCH, MUCH darker than it was on either 4.4 or 4.4.1. I wish I had taken some screenies before updating to show you.
xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
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Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
for anyone wondering about the dimmer picture in the video ,
i made a little example here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3W...it?usp=sharing
( dont have to download to view)
im not complaining , just showing what people are saying
haydonxda said:
Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
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Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFhXib0pZk
xybur said:
Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
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Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
haydonxda said:
Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
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What's funny is that I had spotlighting right above my head (direct, LED bright lighting) IN the bar at the table I was sitting at, which would make it look like stage lighting.
But it looks as if it's horrendously dark in there and all of the ambient LED's look like christmas lights thanks to the recording and the contrast of light sources. Trust me when I say it was a lot brighter in the bar than the video would lead you to believe.
My 4.4.2 pictures.
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xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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That looks exactly like I would expect a video from a dimly lit bar to look.
I didn't think to take any photos at the time, but the difference between the photo viewfinder mode and the camcorder mode was incredibly noticeable, very similar to the screen caps of the viewfinders posted in the 4.4.2 first thoughts thread.
edit: Here is the thread if you somehow missed it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562886

Dismal Camera Focus?

The camera seems to take pictures well for the most part, but if I try to capture the detail in an object I can't even come close to getting a decent picture. I've tried tapping over and over, using the manual focus on L camera, all with fuzzy, out of focus results.
Just to get an idea of how bad this is, I captured the lighter in pretty good detail with my Nexus 4...
Is my phone defective or is the focusing on the camera just bad?
you have to use touch to focus to get detailed photographs. do you use touch to focus? oh, and macros, with the n6 cam you have to hold it back another 1.5-2 inches back, further back than on tbe n4 and n5, or the object will never get focused on.
simms22 said:
you have to use touch to focus to get detailed photographs. do you use touch to focus? oh, and macros, with the n6 cam you have to hold it back another 1.5-2 inches back, further back than on tbe n4 and n5, or the object will never get focused on.
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I'm trying to use the touch to focus but it just doesn't seem to work. I've also tried different distances too.
Aoude. said:
I'm trying to use the touch to focus but it just doesn't seem to work. I've also tried different distances too.
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are you on stock? 5.0 or 5.0.1?
simms22 said:
are you on stock? 5.0 or 5.0.1?
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Stock 5.0.1, rooted w/ AppOps, no encryption
Aoude. said:
Stock 5.0.1, rooted w/ AppOps, no encryption
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i was going to say, 5.0.1 improved things a bit. focuses fine here now.
simms22 said:
i was going to say, 5.0.1 improved things a bit. focuses fine here now.
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Do you think my phone might have a hardware issue with the camera?
Aoude. said:
Do you think my phone might have a hardware issue with the camera?
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to be honest, to me it just seems like you were a little too close for the photos. i know another camera phone can get closer and all, but..
simms22 said:
to be honest, to me it just seems like you were a little too close for the photos. i know another camera phone can get closer and all, but..
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So you think that, although the Nexus 4 is definitely worse, it might just be better at focusing at closer distances?
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I tried taking it a little farther away, and I'd say the amount of detail makes up for the added distance. Thanks for the advice.
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Aoude. said:
So you think that, although the Nexus 4 is definitely worse, it might just be better at focusing at closer distances?
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i own the n4, n5, and n6. the n4 takes wonderful macro shots. the n5, just as good, maybe slightly better. for the n6, you really do have to pull the camera back a bit more, thats the very first thing i noticed with this cam. but after the shot, you can crop closer(because of 13mp), and the end product can look the same. i know, i take a massive amount of macro and regular shots.
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i own the n4, n5, and n6. the n4 takes wonderful macro shots. the n5, just as good, maybe slightly better. for the n6, you really do have to pull the camera back a bit more, thats the very first thing i noticed with this cam. but after the shot, you can crop closer(because of 13mp), and the end product can look the same. i know, i take a massive amount of macro and regular shots.
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Great to hear, any tips you have for using this camera in general? I have L camera and that definitely makes this camera more flexible.
Aoude. said:
Great to hear, any tips you have for using this camera in general? I have L camera and that definitely makes this camera more flexible.
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since im on an aosp rom, it includes the aosp camera as well. its like the google camera, but its missing many features. it does shoots a little quicker though. it has a flash, and thats all i need. a better camera is pretty good on the n6 as well, since they are starting to use the new code.
Aoude. said:
Great to hear, any tips you have for using this camera in general? I have L camera and that definitely makes this camera more flexible.
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just shot a macro in a supermarket, its cropped to be 2000 pixels across..
I'm having the same problem, I'm used to getting very close to the objects and the camera focus without any issues. The N6 can't focus I was worried my N6 had a problem with the camera or if it was software related.
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Mazjal7 said:
I'm having the same problem, I'm used to getting very close to the objects and the camera focus without any issues. The N6 can't focus I was worried my N6 had a problem with the camera or if it was software related.
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my camera doesn't focus at all, no matter how far away I am. I've tried everything. Manual settings it off, i touch the area on the screen i want to focus to and it sort of tries to focus but when it settles the inside circle doesn't go green and it is still out of focus. This could be a deal breaker for me if it doesn't improve
Mazjal7 said:
I'm having the same problem, I'm used to getting very close to the objects and the camera focus without any issues. The N6 can't focus I was worried my N6 had a problem with the camera or if it was software related.
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the n6 camera can not get as close to objects as other camera phones. quit trying to get very close. you need to pull it back about 7-8 inches, at least.
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MontAlbert said:
my camera doesn't focus at all, no matter how far away I am. I've tried everything. Manual settings it off, i touch the area on the screen i want to focus to and it sort of tries to focus but when it settles the inside circle doesn't go green and it is still out of focus. This could be a deal breaker for me if it doesn't improve
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you need to exchange your phone, asap.
simms22 said:
the n6 camera can not get as close to objects as other camera phones. quit trying to get very close. you need to pull it back about 7-8 inches, at least.
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you need to exchange your phone, asap.
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if only i could do that. wonder if there are any left in stock anywhere in Australia.... :-/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw1MHFgUt_uQUlFyZENqVTZpZ3c/view?usp=sharing
interestingly it will focus when help landscape but not portrait...
MontAlbert said:
if only i could do that. wonder if there are any left in stock anywhere in Australia.... :-/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw1MHFgUt_uQUlFyZENqVTZpZ3c/view?usp=sharing
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that blows. even if you have to wait, its still worth it. you wont have to send yours back until the replacement comes. but ive seen quite a few with camera issues, so id try to get it changed as fast as possible(since im a heavy camera user).
This seems like the right place to ask.. My focus is fine for pictures, and during video in portrait mode. But when in landscape, I can't get the video to focus. Anyone else have this?

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