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Do unlock codes allow bootloader unlocking?

I currently have a rooted AT&T Moto X. I want to be able to unlock my bootloader so I can install other ROMs. My question is, if I purchase an unlock key from one of the sites on the Internet, will this allow me to unlock the bootloader? ... or is this just a SIM unlock? Is it maybe possible to bootloader unlock my AT&T phone without purchasing an unlock key? I've looked but I've yet to run into any documentation that says I can.
Much thanks for any help.

redeuxx said:
I currently have a rooted AT&T Moto X. I want to be able to unlock my bootloader so I can install other ROMs. My question is, if I purchase an unlock key from one of the sites on the Internet, will this allow me to unlock the bootloader? ... or is this just a SIM unlock? Is it maybe possible to bootloader unlock my AT&T phone without purchasing an unlock key? I've looked but I've yet to run into any documentation that says I can.
Much thanks for any help.
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i'vve seen no sites selling bootloader unlock codes for the Moto X. (Other than that Chinese site/middleman deal)
What you are seeing are likely only SIM unlock codes for sale.
The info/thread on the Chinese site/middleman being back is the only way to obtain a bootloader unlock code for the ATT X.
There is no way to unlock the bootloader without the code.

KidJoe said:
i'vve seen no sites selling bootloader unlock codes for the Moto X. (Other than that Chinese site/middleman deal)
What you are seeing are likely only SIM unlock codes for sale.
The info/thread on the Chinese site/middleman being back is the only way to obtain a bootloader unlock code for the ATT X.
There is no way to unlock the bootloader without the code.
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Does unlocking the bootloader also unlock the SIM? I'm on Verizon, it doesn't seem like I've ever had to manipulate a SIM card in anyway. Is it because CDMA carrier don't use it?

jamesino said:
Does unlocking the bootloader also unlock the SIM? I'm on Verizon, it doesn't seem like I've ever had to manipulate a SIM card in anyway. Is it because CDMA carrier don't use it?
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Unlocking the bootloader and sim unlocking are two different things.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash/install unsigned or 3rd party supplied parts/partitions (like recovery, modified or custom roms, etc), and that in turn allows you to easily root. Motorola gives out the Bootloader unlock codes for the Developer Edition X and some carrier editions (like T-Mobile and Sprint). For ATT and Verizon (non-developer), Moto does NOT give out the codes (likely due to carrier's wishes). No one has cracked the bootloader lock on the X yet, so to bootloader unlock the Verizon (non-Dev) and ATT X the Chinese Website/Middleman selling the bootloader unlock codes is the only way you'll be able to do this.
SIM unlocking allows you to use the SIM from other carriers in your phone.
Phones that are purely CDMA/EVDO only, like the HTC Incredible, Original Motorola Droid, etc, do not use a SIM and therefore there is no "SIM" unlocking for them. Those phones have an ESN burned into them. The carriers only accept ESN numbers of phones which were made for them (couldn't take a CDMA/EVDO phone from another carrier and use it on Verizon because VZW wouldn't allow the ESN). Verizon's phone's started using SIM slots when they added GSM Global Roaming to phones like the Blackberry 9930 and such. They were sim locked to Vodafone (Verizon's international roaming partner). They could be SIM unlocked for global roaming by calling Verizon's international department directly and requesting the SIM unlock code. Usually telling them something like "I am traveling over seas and I want to use a local pre-paid SIM when I get there), can I have the SIM unlock code for my phone?" would get you the code.
With the introduction of LTE, Verizon is using SIM cards for both LTE and GSM. Verizon's LTE phones are SIM unlocked due to the FCC rules around the 700Mhz C block auction they won years ago. The Moto X, Galaxy S4, Galaxy S5, and others are all SIM unlocked right out of the box. Other carriers like ATT and T-Mobile, ship their phones SIM locked, so to put a T-Mobile SIM in an ATT phone, you need to SIM unlock it first. The exception being something like the X where T-Mobile doesn't sell it directly, Moto does, and ships a SIM unlocked version with a T-Mobile sim.

KidJoe said:
Unlocking the bootloader and sim unlocking are two different things.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash/install unsigned or 3rd party supplied parts/partitions (like recovery, modified or custom roms, etc), and that in turn allows you to easily root. Motorola gives out the Bootloader unlock codes for the Developer Edition X and some carrier editions (like T-Mobile and Sprint). For ATT and Verizon (non-developer), Moto does NOT give out the codes (likely due to carrier's wishes). No one has cracked the bootloader lock on the X yet, so to bootloader unlock the Verizon (non-Dev) and ATT X the Chinese Website/Middleman selling the bootloader unlock codes is the only way you'll be able to do this.
SIM unlocking allows you to use the SIM from other carriers in your phone.
Phones that are purely CDMA/EVDO only, like the HTC Incredible, Original Motorola Droid, etc, do not use a SIM and therefore there is no "SIM" unlocking for them. Those phones have an ESN burned into them. The carriers only accept ESN numbers of phones which were made for them (couldn't take a CDMA/EVDO phone from another carrier and use it on Verizon because VZW wouldn't allow the ESN). Verizon's phone's started using SIM slots when they added GSM Global Roaming to phones like the Blackberry 9930 and such. They were sim locked to Vodafone (Verizon's international roaming partner). They could be SIM unlocked for global roaming by calling Verizon's international department directly and requesting the SIM unlock code. Usually telling them something like "I am traveling over seas and I want to use a local pre-paid SIM when I get there), can I have the SIM unlock code for my phone?" would get you the code.
With the introduction of LTE, Verizon is using SIM cards for both LTE and GSM. Verizon's LTE phones are SIM unlocked due to the FCC rules around the 700Mhz C block auction they won years ago. The Moto X, Galaxy S4, Galaxy S5, and others are all SIM unlocked right out of the box. Other carriers like ATT and T-Mobile, ship their phones SIM locked, so to put a T-Mobile SIM in an ATT phone, you need to SIM unlock it first. The exception being something like the X where T-Mobile doesn't sell it directly, Moto does, and ships a SIM unlocked version with a T-Mobile sim.
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Would it make sense to unlock the bootloader for republic wireless moto x?

androiddoglover6969 said:
Would it make sense to unlock the bootloader for republic wireless moto x?
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It depends on what you want to do with your phone.
If you want to root no matter what RW pushes to your phone, and you don't mind voiding your warranty... then yes.
I don't have RW, but from what I understand, their Bootloader is locked, and like with Verizon and ATT, Moto doesn't give out the unlock codes for RW. So your only choice is the 3rd party Chinese website/middleman.
There is a thread for RW, and what can be done while the bootloader is locked. Its pretty much the same as VZW and ATT users... if you have 4.2.2 or 4.4 on your phone you can root and disable write protection by using SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes, and if you want to run 4.4.2, you can make use of Safestrap (assuming your phone is still on 4.4 or lower to root it). BUT if you already have taken the 4.4.2 update, or flashed a 4.4.2 SBF, you are stuck unless you can unlock the boot loader.

KidJoe said:
It depends on what you want to do with your phone.
If you want to root no matter what RW pushes to your phone, and you don't mind voiding your warranty... then yes.
I don't have RW, but from what I understand, their Bootloader is locked, and like with Verizon and ATT, Moto doesn't give out the unlock codes for RW. So your only choice is the 3rd party Chinese website/middleman.
There is a thread for RW, and what can be done while the bootloader is locked. Its pretty much the same as VZW and ATT users... if you have 4.2.2 or 4.4 on your phone you can root and disable write protection by using SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes, and if you want to run 4.4.2, you can make use of Safestrap (assuming your phone is still on 4.4 or lower to root it). BUT if you already have taken the 4.4.2 update, or flashed a 4.4.2 SBF, you are stuck unless you can unlock the boot loader.
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I did motowpnomo and disabled wp. I have 4.4.2 update with root using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-republic-wireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233
What I want to do is to get rid of this error message "com.motorola.process.system" ? I did everything I tried on google search.
safemode,
date&time
cache & dalvik cache
But one thing I have not done is factory reset. I am unsure I can do that to keep my root on 4.4.2. That is why I'm asking if I do bootloader unlocked, even if I screw up and lose my root or not, I will still be safe with root after because I have bootloader right?
Or if you can help me with any further information you seem to be very good in this area.

androiddoglover6969 said:
I did motowpnomo and disabled wp. I have 4.4.2 update with root using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-republic-wireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233
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That is rooting, then using Safestrap to make use of 4.4.2... its more involved than unlocking the bootloader and rooting.
androiddoglover6969 said:
What I want to do is to get rid of this error message "com.motorola.process.system" ? I did everything I tried on google search.
safemode,
date&time
cache & dalvik cache
But one thing I have not done is factory reset. I am unsure I can do that to keep my root on 4.4.2. That is why I'm asking if I do bootloader unlocked, even if I screw up and lose my root or not, I will still be safe with root after because I have bootloader right?
Or if you can help me with any further information you seem to be very good in this area.
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I don't use safestrap so I don't want to advise you, and possibly get it wrong.
I can say that once you unlock the bootloader, you can just flash a custom recovery, boot to the custom recovery and install SuperSU to gain root. This can be done no matter what rom is on your phone, even 4.4.2. You can factory reset, flash an SBF, take an OTA and still be able to root it. (of course some caveats apply in taking an OTA see -> HERE) And you can flash a custom/3rd party rom if you want too.

[Q] Republic Wireless Reality Check

I've researched a ton of threads and I think I have facts straight but would like confirmation from the community. Republic Wireless KitKat 4.4.2
I can:
1. Unlock bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Flash TWRP using mfastboot.
3. Root using TWRP
Continue using RW service
OR I can:
Perform steps 1&2 then
3. Flash the GE Rom
4. Edit to select and enable GSM
5. Install a T-Mo sim
Use T-Mo service (no LTE)
I'm a bit fuzzy still if I would need to carrier unlock somehow in the second scenario.
Has anyone successfully converted an RW phone to GSM? Am I on the right track? What have I over-simplified or overlooked?

It looks right.
Take a look at the first two posts in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155 for SIM/Carrier unlocking.

jherbold said:
I've researched a ton of threads and I think I have facts straight but would like confirmation from the community. Republic Wireless KitKat 4.4.2
I can:
1. Unlock bootloader with Sunshine.
2. Flash TWRP using mfastboot.
3. Root using TWRP
Continue using RW service
OR I can:
Perform steps 1&2 then
3. Flash the GE Rom
4. Edit to select and enable GSM
5. Install a T-Mo sim
Use T-Mo service (no LTE)
I'm a bit fuzzy still if I would need to carrier unlock somehow in the second scenario.
Has anyone successfully converted an RW phone to GSM? Am I on the right track? What have I over-simplified or overlooked?
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Yes.
I've been SIM unlocked for several months, courtesy of @samwathegreat as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155
I started with RW Moto X XT1049. Bootloader unlocked via "China Middleman", since Sunshine was not yet available. Flashed TWRP, rooted, installed Carbon ROM. Did SIM unlock as per above. At some point I flashed the full T-Mobile 4.4.4 stock ROM, including baseband., although this was not necessary. Was successfully using T-Mobile for 2-3 months, but I found coverage to be spotty, and in particular many areas where I got only EDGE (since no band IV), so I switched to Cricket, with much better results.

Thanks KidJoe and ejlmd for your responses. Good to know this phone is not forever tied to RW and Sprint, as some on their forums insist. I was especially glad for confirmation the GSM capability is present and useable. That does not seem to be widely known outside this forum.
I face the same issues with T-Mo coverage. I actually just used them as an example. If (or when) I switch it will probably be to an AT&T MVNO.

@ejlmd on what Android version you unlock the bootloader, 4.4.2?

zlebors said:
@ejlmd on what Android version you unlock the bootloader, 4.4.2?
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Yes. Now I am on 4.4.4, but bootloader unlocked via China middleman when I was on 4.4.2.

thanks @ejlmd for the information

Just found out that I got accepted to study abroad and want to take my RW Moto X with me rather than buying a new phone. Does Sunshine work with 4.4.4? Would 3G/LTE Data work? (The LTE is 800/1800/2600 Mhz and bands 20/3/7 while 3G is 900/2100 MHz bands 8/1)
Jherbold, did you ever get your plan to work?

Sunshine does NOT work on 4.4.4.
I believe the RW XT1049 is sim LOCKED also. If so, you can't use the SIM from another carrier in the phone.

KidJoe said:
Sunshine does NOT work on 4.4.4.
I believe the RW XT1049 is sim LOCKED also. If so, you can't use the SIM from another carrier in the phone.
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Yes, it is SIM locked. Some have successfully unlocked it and installed ROMs from other carriers that worked with non-RW SIMs. But not with 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54338871&postcount=2
Additionally, per a post I saw from someone @ RW, if you are using the RW ROM and app it is unlikely that the foreign SIM will be able to work even if you were SIM unlocked due to the way the SIP/VOIP implementation works; the SIM is only used to access the LTE data network.

glarepate said:
Yes, it is SIM locked. Some have successfully unlocked it and installed ROMs from other carriers that worked with non-RW SIMs. But not with 4.4.4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54338871&postcount=2
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Yes, but if you read that thread, RW users must first flash the Sprint SBF, and that requires the phone to be bootloader unlocked.
Republic Wireless phones are bootloader LOCKED, Moto doesn't give out the unlock code for RW, the China Middleman has been gone for sometime, and Sunshine doesn't work on 4.4.4, so the bootloader can't be unlocked, hence I didn't suggest following that thread to SIM unlock when khabibul35 asked, (but I did in Post #2 of this thread when replying to the OP because there were options to unlock the bootloader back then).
glarepate said:
Additionally, per a post I saw from someone @ RW, if you are using the RW ROM and app it is unlikely that the foreign SIM will be able to work even if you were SIM unlocked due to the way the SIP/VOIP implementation works; the SIM is only used to access the LTE data network.
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Well, "someone @ RW" might be telling you how it works on THEIR network... They usually wont help you getting THEIR PHONES working on SOMEONE ELSE's service.
Example: Verizon, primarily uses CDMA/EVDO for Voice, SMS/MMS and 3G data, and SIM for LTE. Verizon's Support will admit that their phone is SIM unlocked, and can be used for Global GSM roaming, yet they will tell you it wont work on domestic (USA) carriers. But it does. Many users, including myself, have put non-Verizon GSM SIM in our XT1060, and they work just fine. (in my case I've put T-Mobile and ATT sims in).
Until you SIM unlock the Sprint XT1056, it wont work on non-Sprint GSM providers, hence the excitement in that thread. Many Non-Sprint customers are using XT1056's that have been SIM unlocked now, that Sprint says can't be used on another carriers SIM. If you read that thread, there are those with RW doing the same thing (if they were able to unlock their bootloader, and follow that process)

[Q] Unlocked Sprint M8 Still can't use AT&T or T-Mobile

I bought a used Sprint M8 Not HK version
And I successfully unlocked the simlock,because I have been to China and I can use the GSM and CDMA network there.
I want to change my carrier as AT&T or T-mobile even if Version Wireless,but it just tell me the SIM Card Is Invalid !
I visited a lot of website and tried any possible solution on the Internet,include but not limite in: Change ROM,Flash Radio,Format /cache /sytem /data,Retry simlock again and again,Set QPST,Set CDMAworkstation,Set DFS ...
Well,
I even want to buy the unlock code from xxxxxx.com,but they warn me do not buy the code if the phone didn't request.
Why the phone didn't request the unlock code?
I truly hope I can unlock this phone,
If you know how to deal with it,Please help me!
I am using Sprint (maybe)original ROM,Software version 3.31.654.2,OS vision Android 4.4.4,Baseband version 1.08.20.0916

Even if you SIM unlock the phone you can't use it on another domestic carrier. If you're international that's another story.

Magnum_Enforcer said:
Even if you SIM unlock the phone you can't use it on another domestic carrier. If you're international that's another story.
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But it is designed can enter the unlock code to unlock domestic carrier and international carrier.
And the domestic unlock code is actually exist,just have no idea why this phone not ask.
Maybe the unlock program damage the part of domestic unlock function?

Question!

Ok, soo how can i tell if my droid 3 is sim network locked or unlocked? i ask because i recently had to sbf and now when i insert a sim card it just says invalid sim, but before the sbf it would say "enter sim network unlock pin".
Can anybody tell what happened?? also i tried the sim cards in my sister's droid 3 and it says "enter sim network unlock pin".
I am very confused...

Can you help, @sd_shadow ?

Josephdbrewer25 said:
Ok, soo how can i tell if my droid 3 is sim network locked or unlocked? i ask because i recently had to sbf and now when i insert a sim card it just says invalid sim, but before the sbf it would say "enter sim network unlock pin".
Can anybody tell what happened?? also i tried the sim cards in my sister's droid 3 and it says "enter sim network unlock pin".
I am very confused...
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Sim locked or band locked?
Sim locked requires a code, once unlocked it stays unlocked, even if you flashed firmware.
Sim unlocked only allows non USA network gms bands to work
Band unlocking allows USA gms networks to connect, the Droid 3 requires Flashing a radio.img and edited build.prop (stock), if you flashed full firmware you need to reflash radio.img
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sd_shadow said:
Sim locked or band locked?
Sim locked requires a code, once unlocked it stays unlocked, even if you flashed firmware.
Sim unlocked only allows non USA network gms bands to work
Band unlocking allows USA gms networks to connect, the Droid 3 requires Flashing a radio.img and edited build.prop (stock), if you flashed full firmware you need to reflash radio.img
Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk
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I mean sim lock. I never entered a code. The only thing I did was the one click SBF by overlayer. Custom roms just switch from radio off to out of service then back radio off(except for steeldroid ics as i can get get CDMA). I pop in a SIM card and boot up the stock rom it just says invalid sim. It use to ask for the unlock code before the SBF, now it doesn't. I also tried the same SIM in another droid 3 and it asked for the unlock code.
Not sure what happened or what to do about it.

Flashing Moto G6 with Verizon firmware

I have an unlocked Moto G6 that I am trying to flash with Verizon firmware. Can anyone point me in the right direction? A google search has shown nothing.

fmj77 said:
I have an unlocked Moto G6 that I am trying to flash with Verizon firmware. Can anyone point me in the right direction? A google search has shown nothing.
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What do you mean by unlocked. There bootloader unlock and sim unlock. Sim unlock just allows you to use another network. Bootloader unlock allows to to flash. Also there is no Verizon firmware to flash because the Verizon model can't be bootloader unlocked which means you can't flash it. Verizon and att are notoriously the worst when it comes to having there phones eligible to be bootloader unlocked

ninjakira said:
What do you mean by unlocked. There bootloader unlock and sim unlock. Sim unlock just allows you to use another network. Bootloader unlock allows to to flash. Also there is no Verizon firmware to flash because the Verizon model can't be bootloader unlocked which means you can't flash it. Verizon and att are notoriously the worst when it comes to having there phones eligible to be bootloader unlocked
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I guess it's SIM unlocked since I can pretty much use it with any carrier by swapping the SIM card. I bought the phone new and unlocked from Republic Wireless and am trying to get it working with full features with Verizon Prepaid. A couple of folks on Reddit mentioned that I could flash the phone with Verizon software in order to get it to work as if I'd bought the G6 from Verizon.