Simultaneous Charging - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was thinking, I have a MHL Cable which charges my phone while connected to my HDTV, but I was thinking, what if I buy a DK31 Charging dock.
Will it charge faster because of DK31 + Micro USB? Or one of the power sources would be ignored?

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The USB port is not accessible when the phone is in the dock. So you cant connect the MHL cable

gregbradley said:
The USB port is not accessible when the phone is in the dock. So you cant connect the MHL cable
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This. The same concept was tried with the Nexus 4 wireless charging orb. The USB connection was ignored and it only charged wirelessly (or maybe it was the other way around. Either way, it only used one)

There is no wireless charging on the Xperia Z1
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RHBH said:
I was thinking, I have a MHL Cable which charges my phone while connected to my HDTV, but I was thinking, what if I buy a DK31 Charging dock.
Will it charge faster because of DK31 + Micro USB? Or one of the power sources would be ignored?
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Over charging will spoilt the battery fast.

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Where to buy a charger?

Any ideas on where to buy a spare USB cable or charger for cheap?
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I'm also interested in knowing that. The cheapest I found was for around $29
Can you tell me if some one have tried the sansa cable?
Look on google picture for the model
michel
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samsung and some other 3rd party providers offer the data sync cable for 19.00 usd...that's the cheapest i've found..and none of the olympia, wa carriers have any accessories except the hard leather case, the silicone case and the screen protector.
I bought a 2port usb car adapter that works well and now going to buy from samsung the cord.
I know once people get the proper pinout's ...sites like fommy or cellphoneshop will have them for like 4.99 or cheaper...
i love my tab..but for christ sake...where are all the friggen accessories?...*sigh*
You'll definitely need a real cable, and a charger capable of 2Amp output, or it probably won't charge properly.
I'm using a 1 amp charger from my Garminfone and it works fine (60% to full charge in 1.5hrs)
I also tried a 2 amp Iluv usb charger but it went into usb mode (pc connection mode) and did not seem to charge??
Cable and accessories are expensive!! I bought a data/charge cable from Aliexpress for $6.50. Should have it in about a week. Will let you know if it works. Paid with Paypal so I'm protected.
www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/37025...or-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-P1000--wholesalers.html
When i connect my tab to a usb-hub with 3,8amp it does not charge at all, it even continues to discharge. the hub is a 7port belkin with a 3,8amp power supply.
schmolch said:
When i connect my tab to a usb-hub with 3,8amp it does not charge at all, it even continues to discharge. the hub is a 7port belkin with a 3,8amp power supply.
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That's because when you plug it into a computer, it negotiates for power with the usb controller. You can see how much power it is getting by looking in the device manager under the usb hub. Most devices can only get 500 mA from a computer usb port.
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Its not a computer, its a external belkin 7-port usb-hub with a 3,8amp power-supply.
No computer is connected.
A hub shouldn't really supply power at all without a computer connected to it, it probably defaults to whatever the lowest power setting is. Just because a hub uses a 3.2A power cable doesn't mean every single usb port will have that, it's sharing that power with all of them.
No its not the hub, its the samsung charger thats wired differently.
I just modified a usb-extension cable and now the tab charges from my hub and my laptop.
The changes you need to make to the cable have already been described here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9355551
Also, you dont need 2A.
The samsung charger is charging with 1,5A only because it has 5,4V.
With 5V you will have only 1amp, so no need to buy a 2A charger/battery.
And yes it just jumped up 1% charging from my laptops's usb port while the tab was running.
vs2 said:
I'm using a 1 amp charger from my Garminfone and it works fine (60% to full charge in 1.5hrs)
I also tried a 2 amp Iluv usb charger but it went into usb mode (pc connection mode) and did not seem to charge??
Cable and accessories are expensive!! I bought a data/charge cable from Aliexpress for $6.50. Should have it in about a week. Will let you know if it works. Paid with Paypal so I'm protected.
www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/37025...or-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-P1000--wholesalers.html
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Can you please confirm if the cable you got work for charging the tab?
The cheapest USB cable for Galaxy Tab is USD3.6 in Hong Kong!
Charger $ 3.8
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51918
Data Cable $ 2.90
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51931
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Has anyone here tried the Griffin PowerDuo for iPad car and wall charger? Does it work with the tab?
slickb said:
Has anyone here tried the Griffin PowerDuo for iPad car and wall charger? Does it work with the tab?
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I just picked one of these up to try and unfortunately it is trickle charge only, back to the store...
bd85 said:
Charger $ 3.8
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51918
Data Cable $ 2.90
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51931
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Hi, will the above actually work?
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I got the cable from dealextreme and it is working perfectly
charon72 said:
I got the cable from dealextreme and it is working perfectly
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Just to confirm, the DX cable both charges and syncs properly? I only ask as I had some bad experiences with ipod cables/docks from DX so I wanted to be sure before ordering.
If you need any other items why not go to the t-mobile store? Two items gets you 20% off,three items gets you 30%. They have lanyards for 5 bucks. Get with a friend and split the sale getting you the discounts.

[Q] USB Charging?

Just got a Tab but I bought it off of someone who couldn't find there charger so I had to find one locally quick and the ONLY store that had it in my area was Verizon but it wasnt a Samsung branded OEM charger, It was a Verizon charger that was suppose to be the same but It doesnt charge via USB and Im wondering if for some reason its not suppose too? It charges USB when the Tab is off but when its on it doesn't? I can only charge it via wall charger when its on? So, is That normal? Or, does the OEM USB charge it while its on and this Verizon one is just messed up? Thanks.
Yeah. I got the Samsung Charger. Charging through USB from a computer is super slow to useless.
Only plugging to a wall provides sufficiently speedy charging.
The Tab is quite greedy for power and using either the USB port on a PC or a low Amp rated Mains USB charger will result in either the phone charging very slowly or not responding whilst under charge.
Charging the Tab using the USB and a PC, well there's nothing you can do about it as the USB standard only distributes 0.5 amps (500 milliamps) of power through each port.
Mains chargers however are rated higher but most common one's only have a Max of 1.0 amp.
What you need is a charger that has the capacity to deliver 2 amps.
Check Google & Ebay, there are a number of chargers available rated at 2 amp.
So usb charging while the tab is on is impossible, right? The charger charges fine plugged into the wall, I just needed to know if it not charging via usb while the tab is on was normal, and from what I get from what your saying is that it is normal, it will not charge usb while the tab is on... thanks.
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ykman1 said:
So usb charging while the tab is on is impossible, right? The charger charges fine plugged into the wall, I just needed to know if it not charging via usb while the tab is on was normal, and from what I get from what your saying is that it is normal, it will not charge usb while the tab is on... thanks.
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No, I didn't say it was impossible. I said charging via the USB port on a PC will either be very slow or may not respond whilst under charge, it's certainly not the best method. It's just that with only 500 milliamps of power trickling through the USB port, the second you start to use the Tab in anything that requires a decent amount of power you are not going to get any charge.
The only way I find an ability to charge the Tab under a USB connection when connected to a PC is to let the screen on the Tab turn off and not to touch it. It will still happily communicate with your PC and send/receive data but it will take a much, much longer time to charge that's all.
I gotcha, so...when my tab is on it says not charging in the status but if I let it sleep it actually will just very slow... I understand what your saying and thank u for your time, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't the usb cable I got to know to take it back or not...
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I charge mine at night via USB to my computer. Starts around 20% by the time I plug it in. I don't power off the tab. Always has a full charge in the am.
I have a double usb cable that is used to power an external drive. I would need a female to female adapter, but this should provide more power to the GT.
ykman1 said:
I gotcha, so...when my tab is on it says not charging in the status but if I let it sleep it actually will just very slow... I understand what your saying and thank u for your time, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't the usb cable I got to know to take it back or not...
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Yes, providing the cable you have charges when using with a mains plug then yes, the cable is good.
If however the cable did not charge even when using it with a mains plug then definately you would have a sync only cable.
Thanks, I'm just gonna let it sit overnight with it on sleep n see what happens
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ykman1 said:
Thanks, I'm just gonna let it sit overnight with it on sleep n see what happens
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No problem.
If you think it deserves a Thank You vote please do add one for me.
All votes of thanks goes to charity.
Basically for every vote I receive where I have helped someone my nrses have the authority to grab my wallet and deduct £10 from within which then goes to charity.
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Lol I def will hit the button when I'm home, don't think u can do it from the app...
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ykman1 said:
Lol I def will hit the button when I'm home, don't think u can do it from the app...
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Cheers..... My Nursing Staff will appreciate the kind offer of thanks.
..... and my wallet will say "oh no, not again".
To charge through your PC with official USB cable, you should make your own USB "bridge"as short the data wire while insert an 33K om resister between gcc and data wire, an 10K om resister between gnd and data wire.
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Yep... I left it on the usb in sleep and it did charge so the cables fine, It just sucks that it doesnt when the tab screen is on but oh well... If theres any solution to fixing this that it charges well from usb then let me know, I know someone just commented about modding the cable to work but theres gotta be a better solution...
Sounds like u bought a stolen tab. No charger or box?
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Lol, naw... Its clean.
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just used a spare double-headed cable from a portable hdd that fortunately has a full size usb plug on the other end. (Most have mini-usb at the drive end)
I use it with a female-female usb adapter and it works pretty well for the PC, particularly on USB 3.0 ports.
I also saw these on Amazon:
amazon dot com/Apricorn-Power-Adapter-Cable-AUSB-Y/dp/B000JIOHDE
I believe Blackberry do one for the Storm as a standard accessory as well
For the car I got a car charger designed for iPad with a USB socket that delivers up to 2.1A
Belkin has the car charger
belkin dot com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=525940
(I should say, I don't actually have this one, mine is a generic brand that also has a 1A usb socket)
cheap chargers....
Just for you to know (and anyone that its taking a look at this old posts) :
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-3...-for-samsung-p1000-p1010-white-115526?item=18
and there is blue and black versions, as i saw so far...
Zeron.Wong said:
To charge through your PC with official USB cable, you should make your own USB "bridge"as short the data wire while insert an 33K om resister between gcc and data wire, an 10K om resister between gnd and data wire.
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no need for all that, just plug it in computer USB and wait it take sometime but it charge, because pc USB are not powerful enough to feed 2A to the tab.
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Charging Nexus 7 taking over 5 hours

Charging my Nexus 7 is taking over 5 hours via USB.
How long does it take for everyone else, and if this is broken, what is the process to get it replaced ?
Also will Google replace the battery/hardware, if i've changed my ROM ?
Cheers
What kind of usb? wall charger, usb 2 on computer, usb3 on computer?
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Charging my Nexus 7 is taking over 5 hours via USB.
How long does it take for everyone else, and if this is broken, what is the process to get it replaced ?
Also will Google replace the battery/hardware, if i've changed my ROM ?
Cheers
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I won't charge mine via the USB port..takes too long. Top off, is ok. Complete charge...no way. The N7 has a big battery, so I use the AC charger. 5 hours via USB (dead battery ???) doesn't sound too long to me. Most USB devices only charge at some low rate...like 500 milliamps. You should be using, at least, twice that.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Obviously, Google/ACER have some improvements to make.
Troute said:
What kind of usb? wall charger, usb 2 on computer, usb3 on computer?
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I am charging using a usb 2 cable via a laptop.
Which begs the next question, is charging faster, with any of the above ?
You will get 3 times the current from the stock charger/cable than from a computer's USB port.
Solutions Etcetera said:
You will get 3 times the current from the stock charger/cable than from a computer's USB port.
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Correct. Laptop ports are around 0.5 amps, the stock wall charger is 2 amps
Of course it will charge slow over USB. Plug it into a wall if you can.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Obviously, Google/ACER have some improvements to make.
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Not really its just standard USB charge rates they don't charge as quick as originally are only need a little bit of power for flash drives and so forth. Nothing will charge quick via USB.
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Charging through USB is better on the battery.
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dazdaz said:
I am charging using a usb 2 cable via a laptop.
Which begs the next question, is charging faster, with any of the above ?
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If you look at your Asus supplied Nexus charger you'll see that it's rated at 2A the N7 will happily draw all of that to charge. A pc or laptop usb2 port can supply a maximum of 500mA, that's only a quarter of what the N7 needs to charge at decent rate and you can damage the usb port by putting too high a load on it. My advice is to charge your N7 via the mains charger and forget trying to use the usb port, get a second charger or a portable battery pack if you need to charge while away from home (see the thread on battery packs in this forum for details)
For reference a usb3 port can output 1A if it's set up to do it.
According to Tom's hardware you are still quick. Their graph says 0-100% on usb, screen off 10 hours.

Best car charger?

Would prefer a dual usb but what is the best in ur opinion? (Sprint 7.0)
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I've bought an original Samsung ,with 2A output,it's not dual usb http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECA-U21CBEBXAR
Cheers!
My tab 3 7.0 won't charge on a car charger (or USB on PC either). Is it supposed to?
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AllstarE4 said:
My tab 3 7.0 won't charge on a car charger (or USB on PC either). Is it supposed to?
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Yes, it should, as long as the vehicle power outlets and usb chargers are operational and provide the correct voltage.
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Yes, it should, as long as the vehicle power outlets and usb chargers are operational and provide the correct voltage.
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Hmm. Maybe there's something up with my tablet then. I found a YouTube video for the tab 10.1 that showed to plug the USB cord in just slightly to where it makes a connection to charge, but isn't fully inserted to make the data connection. This trick is working for me with the USB PC connection and car charger. It makes me think there should be a way to change a setting or something to always make it charge when plugged in.
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Yes, it should, as long as the vehicle power outlets and usb chargers are operational and provide the correct voltage.
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Same here. Mine won't charge either
Sammy has been guilty of moving around power lines on their devices so that only there chargers and usb cords will work. Galaxy 2 phones and a few tablets won't charge on OEM or other manufactures cables.
SM-T217A
I don't have the problem. I use a belkin dual port car charger... one is 2.0A ... the second is 1.1A. Charge my note 3 and tab off the 2A plug. I can tell you the tab wont charge on the 1.1A... but the Note 3 will just super slow.
I have a Lenmar dual USB car charger that is 2.1A per port. That "should" charge it, but apparently Sammy blocks it. I wish there was a workaround in the firmware.
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Galaxy watch 3 USBC or micro USB charger uk

Does anyone know if there is a usb c or micro usb connected charger available?
MKchrias said:
Does anyone know if there is a usb c or micro usb connected charger available?
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I had to try to connect the charger to my phone using a standard female USB-A to USB-C adapter and it worked perfectly.
So to answer your question, "There is, sort of, just buy the adapter you need and use that [emoji846]"
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Slipurson said:
I had to try to connect the charger to my phone using a standard female USB-A to USB-C adapter and it worked perfectly.
So to answer your question, "There is, sort of, just buy the adapter you need and use that [emoji846]"
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Looking for something I can use with longer existing cable. Don't understand why they supplied charger with attached cable. My S3 Frontier charger has socket.
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MKchrias said:
Looking for something I can use with longer existing cable. Don't understand why they supplied charger with attached cable. My S3 Frontier charger has socket.
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I think that I read somewhere that the reason there is no plug supplied with the charger is that "most people have lots of chargers already". But also I guess it is a way for us to hand over even more money.
I have not tested this fully but I bought a new, third party, charging cradle for my Gear S2 watch and I would guess that stand should be able to charge the watch 3 also as it is a bit bigger than the original Gear S2 cradle.
Tho I have not really looked into the specs either the S2 cradle or the Watch 3 charge pad.
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