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Last night on my brand new One, I was wifi tethering when I got the message that the phone was using more current than the charger could provide. This was on ac power, which the phone indicated. I never had this problem on the previous One that I exchanged for a screen problem. The phone will literally run its battery to zero sitting on the charger.
It is happening still after multiple reboots and different chargers/sockets.
Is this a faulty battery? Faulty charging circuit? How would I go about finding out?

well if you got the coconuts you could hook a vom to the battery and then the charger and see the difference...
Sent from my rooted unlocked rommed HTC One, on the Sprint network.

The charger that comes with the HTC One is a joke... 1,000mAh. I only use 2,000mAh chargers. I don't know how much amperage the One can pull with the fast-charge feature disabled in firmware, though.

ScrapMaker said:
The charger that comes with the HTC One is a joke... 1,000mAh. I only use 2,000mAh chargers. I don't know how much amperage the One can pull with the fast-charge feature disabled in firmware, though.
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I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure the fast charge feature is only so it will pull a higher current on USB charging mode. Thus far I haven't had any issues with my stock 1000 mah chargers I have laying around. The only time I lose power while charging is when I'm on a weak charger like my BlackBerry or samsung charger (750 and 800 mah)

hilarious jab at samsung

Idk if this is just for the vzw version of the g2 but anytime i plug it in to one of my samsung chargers that came with my galaxy nexus (when on the stock vzw rom), instead of going to slow charge mode it says something along the lines of it being a substandard charger and that i should plug the cord that came with my g2 to charge it safely then cuts the power. Has this happened to anyone else using samsung chargers? Or could it just be that it really did dectect something wrong with the 2 particular samsung chargers i tried?

blazewit said:
Idk if this is just for the vzw version of the g2 but anytime i plug it in to one of my samsung chargers that came with my galaxy nexus (when on the stock vzw rom), instead of going to slow charge mode it says something along the lines of it being a substandard charger and that i should plug the cord that came with my g2 to charge it safely then cuts the power. Has this happened to anyone else using samsung chargers? Or could it just be that it really did dectect something wrong with the 2 particular samsung chargers i tried?
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The actual charger that comes with the G2 has integrated QuickCharge 2.0. Hence why you will notice much, much faster charge times.
Not many other chargers and phones have this capability.

I get that with a BlackBerry charger, too. It has to do with the amperage output.
SeanRinVA
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SeanRinVA said:
I get that with a BlackBerry charger, too. It has to do with the amperage output.
SeanRinVA
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Oh ok lol i thought it was a little brazen to just not allow your competitors chargers to work as all the other non samsung chargers i have at least will slow charge.

Berlinetta said:
The actual charger that comes with the G2 has integrated QuickCharge 2.0. Hence why you will notice much, much faster charge times.
Not many other chargers and phones have this capability.
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Yea i get that its faster w the stock charger what i was saying is that normally you get a notification when using a non stock charger that its in slow charge mode but with all my samsung chargers it wont charge at all, it shuts it off compleatly. I thought it was a Samsung specific thing but apparently it has to do with certain amperage outputs it wont let the phone charge with

Berlinetta said:
The actual charger that comes with the G2 has integrated QuickCharge 2.0. Hence why you will notice much, much faster charge times.
Not many other chargers and phones have this capability.
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You make it sound so special
It's nothing more than a high output charger. Plug it in an Ipad or > 2.0 AMP charger and it will charge just as fast, without the fancy "2.0" technology

Ohhh so thats why it charges so fast! Mine gets 15% up in literally 15 minutes lol. I go bed 21:45, at 22:00 its already beeping that its full back from 85% xD Great stuff really:good:

Yeah idk it seems like it does charge a lot faster, definitely a lot faster than my S III
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This phone is stupid with chargers.
I have a dual charger, 2.3 amps and 1 amp. It fast charges on the 1 but complains about the other.
It complains about an HTC cable and cuts charging, but will charge normally when simply unplugged and plugged in again.
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[Q] Qi charging question

I did a search but not sure if this has been asked already.
I still have the Qi charger that Ive been using since the Nexus4. Can I use that with the fast charging wall unit that came with the Nexus6?

It'll still work but not Turbo Charge.

jrockie said:
It'll still work but not Turbo Charge.
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Ok, thats what I was wondering. Hmm, so it kind of defeats the purpose of having one over the other. I can Qi charge it but at regular rate or I can fast charge but I need to plug it in each time.

Which charger to use with Nexus 6? (no quickcharge)

Which charger to use? (no quickcharge)
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
EDIT: I cannot post pictures on the forum just yet, so here are the specs
10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices

mohijavata said:
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
EDIT: I cannot post pictures on the forum just yet, so here are the specs
10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
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2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?

danarama said:
2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
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I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.

mohijavata said:
I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
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2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging

danarama said:
2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
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Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.

mohijavata said:
Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
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Yes.

If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. Which is tested by Motorola to work properly. I've had my Nexus 6 since December 2014 and no problems. I charge through my laptop will at work though.

logicrulez said:
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. . .
I charge through my laptop will at work though.
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He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.

NLBeev said:
He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
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He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.

danarama said:
He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
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And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(

NLBeev said:
And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
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Nope. So the only thing that will change is his phone will take longer to charge.
That said for me, turbo charge stopped working and I'm very annoyed.
Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.

I have this charger, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Belkin-F8J031TT04-BLK-Micro-Wall-car-Chrg-Kit-2.1a-10w-W-4ft/40457559, but i got just the charger for $20. It most definitely doesnt turbo charge, it takes atleast 2 hours, so id say its a "normal" charge for this phone and i think its better than the turbo charger, because it doesnt get hot and its still decently fast

danarama said:
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Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
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The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?

NLBeev said:
The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.

danarama said:
I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
BTW
Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.

NLBeev said:
There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
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Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
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I don't believe they can but I'm not.going.to try anyway.

You should use a 5 Volt 2 Amp charger, those chargers are the one's that most phones use. Most new phones are using Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0, which you should use but if you are not comftorable then the 5 Volt 2 Amp will work good.

Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.

seshmaru said:
Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
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Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"

danarama said:
Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
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I think you're not understanding the basic chemistry. More heat = more degradation of the Li-ion battery, regardless of tolerances. A lower power charge will always degrade the battery slower. This isn't about tolerances.

Quick Charge 2.0 Notification

I just got a Quick Charge 2.0 certified charger made by Tronsmart, the WC1Q. I plugged it into my phone but there seems to be no notification for fast, quick or turbo charging. Is this how this phone works because I tried it on someone's Note 5 and it did display Turbo charging when the adapter was plugged in.
The charger itself seems of average build quality and it has 'made in china' written on it. But since it did show up as a turbo charger on the Note 5 I want to figure out a way to be sure the charger is fine and that the Moto X 2014 just doesn't show any specific quick charge notification.

kevrin said:
I just got a Quick Charge 2.0 certified charger made by Tronsmart, the WC1Q. I plugged it into my phone but there seems to be no notification for fast, quick or turbo charging. Is this how this phone works because I tried it on someone's Note 5 and it did display Turbo charging when the adapter was plugged in.
The charger itself seems of average build quality and it has 'made in china' written on it. But since it did show up as a turbo charger on the Note 5 I want to figure out a way to be sure the charger is fine and that the Moto X 2014 just doesn't show any specific quick charge notification.
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Well, I am using the same charger and it does shows the 'Turbo Power Connected' notification when plugged in my X 2014. I am on Stock Marshmallow on XT1096(running XT1095 rom).

hamzaalijoiyah said:
Well, I am using the same charger and it does shows the 'Turbo Power Connected' notification when plugged in my X 2014. I am on Stock Marshmallow on XT1096(running XT1095 rom).
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Thanks for your reply hamzaalijoiyah.
Interesting, I suppose this has something to do with Lollipop then? Since I'm on Stock 5.1. I have an XT1097 (Sprint).
Where did you get the charger from? Can you show me pictures of the box it came in and the actual charger. I want to see if mine is at least the real thing.
Btw, how 'fast' is it in real world terms? Do you use it much?

Sure I will just get back to you in a while with all details.

kevrin said:
Thanks for your reply hamzaalijoiyah.
Interesting, I suppose this has something to do with Lollipop then? Since I'm on Stock 5.1. I have an XT1097 (Sprint).
Where did you get the charger from? Can you show me pictures of the box it came in and the actual charger. I want to see if mine is at least the real thing.
Btw, how 'fast' is it in real world terms? Do you use it much?
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I got it from a local Online merchandise, link here
Real world performance is great. Charges the phone pretty fast, though phone also tends to heat quite much. It came in a white Standard sized box, though I am afraid that I have lost the box. But here are some pictures of charger itself:

hamzaalijoiyah said:
I got it from a local Online merchandise, link here
Real world performance is great. Charges the phone pretty fast, though phone also tends to heat quite much. It came in a white Standard sized box, though I am afraid that I have lost the box. But here are some pictures of charger itself:
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I got it from Allmytech as well. So that eliminates the charger being a fake. Got it in a white box as well. (I do doubt if this is a recertified product or first copy or something). In amy case, it must be Marshmallow that supports the quick charge notification unless anyone else can confirm this. Thanks once again for your help.
(I'm still working my way to a low battery so that I can try charging the phone and see how quick it charges even without the notification)

So my phone finally discharged down to 16% and I started charging it using the Tronsmart 1 Port Quick Charge 2.0 Adapter.
The phone charged to 100% completely in a total of 1 hour and 30 minutes. I used it a bit during charging but most of the time it was left on just sitting there with 3G and wifi disabled. As fast charging works it did turbo charge the first 60% really fast. In half an hour it was up at 61% and in 15 minutes it came up to about ~32%. I will try this again tomorrow morning when my battery should be drained, it seems like ever since I got the charger the battery life has gotten better
Hamzaalijoiyah let me know how fast your phone charges.

hamzaalijoiyah said:
I got it from a local Online merchandise, link here
Real world performance is great. Charges the phone pretty fast, though phone also tends to heat quite much. It came in a white Standard sized box, though I am afraid that I have lost the box. But here are some pictures of charger itself:
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Btw, the phone did not heat up even slightly during charging.

kevrin said:
So my phone finally discharged down to 16% and I started charging it using the Tronsmart 1 Port Quick Charge 2.0 Adapter.
The phone charged to 100% completely in a total of 1 hour and 30 minutes. I used it a bit during charging but most of the time it was left on just sitting there with 3G and wifi disabled. As fast charging works it did turbo charge the first 60% really fast. In half an hour it was up at 61% and in 15 minutes it came up to about ~32%. I will try this again tomorrow morning when my battery should be drained, it seems like ever since I got the charger the battery life has gotten better
Hamzaalijoiyah let me know how fast your phone charges.
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Mine charges in roughly the same time, though I never payed much attention to the charging time. But it does gets heated, though not alarming hot, but I can feel the difference.

I bought my XT1097 here in Brazil July 2015 and it came with Motorola Turbo Charger and I got a 2nd charger, the same in the question: Tronsmart QC2.0 from Aliexpress and it works as well. I'm at MM 6.0.
To be sure, try to download some apps that show the actual charging current, like AMPERE (link here).
As you may already know, when your battery is low, the QuickCharge puts a lot of juice really fast and it slowly reduces the speed when battery is getting full. Under 40% of battery is normal the ampere app to show about 2300mAh. It qualifies that QC2.0 is working fine!
That's it! I hope you have understood me... sorry about my english!

So I've been using the charger when I need a quick charge in the morning before I head out to work and its working great. Does heat up when it feels like it but again not 'alarmingly hot'. I checked the current using the Ampere app and it's pumping the correct amount i.e. ~2000ma. The charger checks out, it's working great. 60% battery in 30 mins as it should. And there is no "Quick Charge" notification on Lollipop for the XT1097.

Nice then!
It should be a Lollipop "Issue" cause in Marshmallow the TurboPower notification pops up right after you plug the cord!