[Q] Qi charging question - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I did a search but not sure if this has been asked already.
I still have the Qi charger that Ive been using since the Nexus4. Can I use that with the fast charging wall unit that came with the Nexus6?

It'll still work but not Turbo Charge.

jrockie said:
It'll still work but not Turbo Charge.
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Ok, thats what I was wondering. Hmm, so it kind of defeats the purpose of having one over the other. I can Qi charge it but at regular rate or I can fast charge but I need to plug it in each time.

Related

hilarious jab at samsung

Idk if this is just for the vzw version of the g2 but anytime i plug it in to one of my samsung chargers that came with my galaxy nexus (when on the stock vzw rom), instead of going to slow charge mode it says something along the lines of it being a substandard charger and that i should plug the cord that came with my g2 to charge it safely then cuts the power. Has this happened to anyone else using samsung chargers? Or could it just be that it really did dectect something wrong with the 2 particular samsung chargers i tried?
blazewit said:
Idk if this is just for the vzw version of the g2 but anytime i plug it in to one of my samsung chargers that came with my galaxy nexus (when on the stock vzw rom), instead of going to slow charge mode it says something along the lines of it being a substandard charger and that i should plug the cord that came with my g2 to charge it safely then cuts the power. Has this happened to anyone else using samsung chargers? Or could it just be that it really did dectect something wrong with the 2 particular samsung chargers i tried?
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The actual charger that comes with the G2 has integrated QuickCharge 2.0. Hence why you will notice much, much faster charge times.
Not many other chargers and phones have this capability.
I get that with a BlackBerry charger, too. It has to do with the amperage output.
SeanRinVA
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SeanRinVA said:
I get that with a BlackBerry charger, too. It has to do with the amperage output.
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Oh ok lol i thought it was a little brazen to just not allow your competitors chargers to work as all the other non samsung chargers i have at least will slow charge.
Berlinetta said:
The actual charger that comes with the G2 has integrated QuickCharge 2.0. Hence why you will notice much, much faster charge times.
Not many other chargers and phones have this capability.
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Yea i get that its faster w the stock charger what i was saying is that normally you get a notification when using a non stock charger that its in slow charge mode but with all my samsung chargers it wont charge at all, it shuts it off compleatly. I thought it was a Samsung specific thing but apparently it has to do with certain amperage outputs it wont let the phone charge with
Berlinetta said:
The actual charger that comes with the G2 has integrated QuickCharge 2.0. Hence why you will notice much, much faster charge times.
Not many other chargers and phones have this capability.
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You make it sound so special
It's nothing more than a high output charger. Plug it in an Ipad or > 2.0 AMP charger and it will charge just as fast, without the fancy "2.0" technology
Ohhh so thats why it charges so fast! Mine gets 15% up in literally 15 minutes lol. I go bed 21:45, at 22:00 its already beeping that its full back from 85% xD Great stuff really:good:
Yeah idk it seems like it does charge a lot faster, definitely a lot faster than my S III
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This phone is stupid with chargers.
I have a dual charger, 2.3 amps and 1 amp. It fast charges on the 1 but complains about the other.
It complains about an HTC cable and cuts charging, but will charge normally when simply unplugged and plugged in again.
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[Q] Wireless charger?

Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
discstu37 said:
Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
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I believe the limitation of Qi is 500 - 700 mA unfortunately.
I think, but not sure, that you can use and qi wireless charger as long as it's connected with the included (and rather large) Droid Turbo power adapter.
tonyf7 said:
I think, but not sure, that you can use and qi wireless charger as long as it's connected with the included (and rather large) Droid Turbo power adapter.
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I cant imagine you would need to use the turbo charger for this. Like SBC44 said the speed is going to be limited fairly low with wireless charging. It wouldn't be possible to charge that fast with wireless technologies, at least not with the current technology. The turbo charger moves a lot of juice.
Here is some good reading if your interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
From the article "Slower charging – due to the lower efficiency, devices can take longer to charge when supplied power is equal."
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Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
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I dont think so.. wall chargers are more powerful than wireless chargers.. Wireless chargers are still need to improve alot..
Wireless charging takes more than overnight!
Do not waste your money on the Verizon wireless charger. The battery in this is so big that even overnight does not bring a phone that was down to 25% up to a full charge.
Thanks for letting us know. I was about to buy the Verizon wireless charger 2 days ago when I was buying all my accessories for the phone. Would've been a bummer to find out how slow the wireless charger chargers. Thanks.
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The TYLT brand wireless charger is capable of normal wall plug speeds. It will be much faster than the average Qi charger but at the same time the turbo charger is amazing. I do not know of a charger that can charge as fast as the turbo charger but this TYLT brand is pretty good. The only reason I would get a wireless charger is to reduce wear and tear on my microUSB port (the culprit for retiring most of my previous android devices).
I also think its common knowledge that rapid charging and discharging of LiPo batteries reduces the overall life expectancy. I'm not sure what Motorola is doing with this whole "rapid charge and non removable battery" thing. Its possible that Turbo users can prolong the life of their batteries by charging at normal rates but I honestly don't have enough info to make a confident statement about that.
Here's the fastest Qi charger that I know of right now:
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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ccheww said:
The TYLT brand wireless charger is capable of normal wall plug speeds. It will be much faster than the average Qi charger but at the same time the turbo charger is amazing. I do not know of a charger that can charge as fast as the turbo charger but this TYLT brand is pretty good. The only reason I would get a wireless charger is to reduce wear and tear on my microUSB port (the culprit for retiring most of my previous android devices).
I also think its common knowledge that rapid charging and discharging of LiPo batteries reduces the overall life expectancy. I'm not sure what Motorola is doing with this whole "rapid charge and non removable battery" thing. Its possible that Turbo users can prolong the life of their batteries by charging at normal rates but I honestly don't have enough info to make a confident statement about that.
Here's the fastest Qi charger that I know of right now:
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I also use the Tylt Vu and am very pleased with it. Looking forward to their wireless car dock.
SBC44 said:
I also use the Tylt Vu and am very pleased with it. Looking forward to their wireless car dock.
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Is there an actual model thats being advertised for release? Ive been searching everywhere for the right wireless car dock. Im trying to minimize my usage on the microUSB port.
That goes for everyone. If you know of any good wireless Qi car mounts /docks that would be superb. I drive all day every day.
ccheww said:
Is there an actual model thats being advertised for release? Ive been searching everywhere for the right wireless car dock. Im trying to minimize my usage on the microUSB port.
That goes for everyone. If you know of any good wireless Qi car mounts /docks that would be superb. I drive all day every day.
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Their website just says coming soon, but Android Police did a hands-on post about it a couple of weeks ago. Looks like the price will be about $80 (!).
I currently use this wireless car dock and haven't had any problems with it..
I was thinking of getting this car mount, but wasnt sure how it would work with the turbo. I have a few questions for you;
do you have a case on it? if so which one... i have the otterbox commuter...
what car are you using it in?
are you using the suction cup or vent connection?
any info would be helpful!
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I'm not using a case on the Turbo, but I used it with an HTC One M8 with a Commuter case and it worked fine. I drive a Chevy Avalanche and mounted the cradle using a ProClip vehicle mount and one of their adapter plates for an XM Radio believe it or not. That matches up pretty well with the tab on the back of the Choetech mount, but I did have to wrap a few rubber bands around the tab so it was tight enough.
I've used this one for close to a year with various devices. It does charge at 1.2a but is limited by the wireless receiver, most are .75a or less. That being said, this unit works great with my BN turbo. It is always at 99-100% after about 7 hours on night stand even when starting below 20%. Currently I'm not using a case, but I have a Commuter case I used for awhile and the wireless charger still worked fine through the case.
May be available in the end of 2015!
Right now there is no wireless charger that supports faster charging but it will soon be available in the end of 2015 as it is under developing state.
I have the Tylt and it says it supports the rapid charging. I can't say it is as fast as the wall charger since I've only had it a few days, but it does seem that the initial charge is very fast.
Also, very stylish. The wife doesn't even complain about leaving it on the night stand.
Bought the TYLT when I pick up the DT its well worth the $75. It charges faster than all my other home Qi chargers and it keeps the phone at a decent angle for viewing. It is not able to keep up with the draw of TS3 Viewer though, but not really a normal issue. I use this charger everyday and it will charge the phone from sub 15% to full overnight. Consequently I normally use this charger to charge up my wife's S5 and it seems to charge at a similar rate to her normal Samsung charger. I like useing this charger over the turbo charger simply because it should help the battery to last longer.
As far as dash mount I use the iOttie Easy Flex Wireless Qi Charger. That one maintains battery levels with the screen always on running Dash and Google Play (it also almost keeps up with running GPS ie. Waze/Google Maps) I posted an extensive reply in a later thread about that charger.
i bought the TYLT and love it. when i turn droid off and put it on TYLT and droid turns on itself. how do i keep droid off while charging? thanks.
bringing this back as I just bought this device. curious to see if there are any fast wireless chargers available yet? i do see QI wireless charging pads, but not sure if that is what I want. thanks!
jco23 said:
bringing this back as I just bought this device. curious to see if there are any fast wireless chargers available yet? i do see QI wireless charging pads, but not sure if that is what I want. thanks!
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I don't think any have hit the market yet. I have several of the tilt Qi chargers all over the house, so I love wireless charging.

Battery is decharging?

hello all! hope this is in the right area. i just recenbtly upgraded to a Nexus 6 form my Nexus 5 on T-Mobile of course and when i plug it up to a regular USB charger it seems as if it's draining the battery. When i use the regular charger it's fine. why is this? maybe a noob question but any help would be greatly appreciated
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hello all! hope this is in the right area. i just recenbtly upgraded to a Nexus 6 form my Nexus 5 on T-Mobile of course and when i plug it up to a regular USB charger it seems as if it's draining the battery. When i use the regular charger it's fine. why is this? maybe a noob question but any help would be greatly appreciated
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usb charger doesnt provide enough voltage going in to charge it while you are using it. if you notice, the regular n6 charger charges the phone while putting in nearly 2500mV(n5 only saw 1200mV max while charging). so, if you wont use the device, after hours on tbe charger the usb charge will finally charge it. but if you are using at the same time, more current goes out of the n6 then goes into it.
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usb charger doesnt provide enough voltage going in to charge it while you are using it. If you notice, the regular n6 charger charges the phone while putting in nearly 2500mv(n5 only saw 1200mv max while charging). So, if you wont use the device, after hours on tbe charger the usb charge will finally charge it. But if you are using at the same time, more current goes out of the n6 then goes into it.
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so basically just use the charger it came with lol
seangeezy12 said:
so basically just use the charger it came with lol
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overnight, you can leave it connected to usb, but yea, use the original charger for a fast charge. now a few kernels do enable fast charge over usb, but itll still be quicker to use the regular wall charger.
simms22 said:
usb charger doesnt provide enough voltage going in to charge it while you are using it. if you notice, the regular n6 charger charges the phone while putting in nearly 2500mV(n5 only saw 1200mV max while charging). so, if you wont use the device, after hours on tbe charger the usb charge will finally charge it. but if you are using at the same time, more current goes out of the n6 then goes into it.
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simms22 said:
overnight, you can leave it connected to usb, but yea, use the original charger for a fast charge. now a few kernels do enable fast charge over usb, but itll still be quicker to use the regular wall charger.
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thanks bro!

Which charger to use with Nexus 6? (no quickcharge)

Which charger to use? (no quickcharge)
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
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10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
mohijavata said:
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
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10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
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2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
danarama said:
2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
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I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
mohijavata said:
I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
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2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
danarama said:
2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
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Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
mohijavata said:
Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
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Yes.
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. Which is tested by Motorola to work properly. I've had my Nexus 6 since December 2014 and no problems. I charge through my laptop will at work though.
logicrulez said:
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. . .
I charge through my laptop will at work though.
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He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
NLBeev said:
He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
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He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
danarama said:
He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
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And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
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And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
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Nope. So the only thing that will change is his phone will take longer to charge.
That said for me, turbo charge stopped working and I'm very annoyed.
Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
I have this charger, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Belkin-F8J031TT04-BLK-Micro-Wall-car-Chrg-Kit-2.1a-10w-W-4ft/40457559, but i got just the charger for $20. It most definitely doesnt turbo charge, it takes atleast 2 hours, so id say its a "normal" charge for this phone and i think its better than the turbo charger, because it doesnt get hot and its still decently fast
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Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
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The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
NLBeev said:
The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
BTW
Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
NLBeev said:
There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
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Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
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I don't believe they can but I'm not.going.to try anyway.
You should use a 5 Volt 2 Amp charger, those chargers are the one's that most phones use. Most new phones are using Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0, which you should use but if you are not comftorable then the 5 Volt 2 Amp will work good.
Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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Including some sources:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
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Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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Including some sources:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
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Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
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Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
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I think you're not understanding the basic chemistry. More heat = more degradation of the Li-ion battery, regardless of tolerances. A lower power charge will always degrade the battery slower. This isn't about tolerances.

Z3C charger specs

Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.
Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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