Battery is decharging? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello all! hope this is in the right area. i just recenbtly upgraded to a Nexus 6 form my Nexus 5 on T-Mobile of course and when i plug it up to a regular USB charger it seems as if it's draining the battery. When i use the regular charger it's fine. why is this? maybe a noob question but any help would be greatly appreciated

seangeezy12 said:
hello all! hope this is in the right area. i just recenbtly upgraded to a Nexus 6 form my Nexus 5 on T-Mobile of course and when i plug it up to a regular USB charger it seems as if it's draining the battery. When i use the regular charger it's fine. why is this? maybe a noob question but any help would be greatly appreciated
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usb charger doesnt provide enough voltage going in to charge it while you are using it. if you notice, the regular n6 charger charges the phone while putting in nearly 2500mV(n5 only saw 1200mV max while charging). so, if you wont use the device, after hours on tbe charger the usb charge will finally charge it. but if you are using at the same time, more current goes out of the n6 then goes into it.

simms22 said:
usb charger doesnt provide enough voltage going in to charge it while you are using it. If you notice, the regular n6 charger charges the phone while putting in nearly 2500mv(n5 only saw 1200mv max while charging). So, if you wont use the device, after hours on tbe charger the usb charge will finally charge it. But if you are using at the same time, more current goes out of the n6 then goes into it.
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so basically just use the charger it came with lol

seangeezy12 said:
so basically just use the charger it came with lol
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overnight, you can leave it connected to usb, but yea, use the original charger for a fast charge. now a few kernels do enable fast charge over usb, but itll still be quicker to use the regular wall charger.

simms22 said:
usb charger doesnt provide enough voltage going in to charge it while you are using it. if you notice, the regular n6 charger charges the phone while putting in nearly 2500mV(n5 only saw 1200mV max while charging). so, if you wont use the device, after hours on tbe charger the usb charge will finally charge it. but if you are using at the same time, more current goes out of the n6 then goes into it.
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simms22 said:
overnight, you can leave it connected to usb, but yea, use the original charger for a fast charge. now a few kernels do enable fast charge over usb, but itll still be quicker to use the regular wall charger.
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thanks bro!

Related

Can Milestone charger be used for OB?

I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
BoyBawang2 said:
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
Just for be able to post new thread. Sorry.
Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
BoyBawang2 said:
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
Huexxx said:
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....

[Q] Qi charging question

I did a search but not sure if this has been asked already.
I still have the Qi charger that Ive been using since the Nexus4. Can I use that with the fast charging wall unit that came with the Nexus6?
It'll still work but not Turbo Charge.
jrockie said:
It'll still work but not Turbo Charge.
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Ok, thats what I was wondering. Hmm, so it kind of defeats the purpose of having one over the other. I can Qi charge it but at regular rate or I can fast charge but I need to plug it in each time.

[Q] Slow charge?

I'm using the "fast charger" that comes with the phone, but it seem to charge slower than I predicted. It says 1 hour until full charge when they phone is at 55%.
Is this right?
did you use the cable that come with the phone?
not all microusb cable can do fast charge.
netnerd said:
did you use the cable that come with the phone?
not all microusb cable can do fast charge.
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Yes. I'm using everthing that comes with it.
The next question is.... were you messing with the phone while it gave you that estimated 1 hour left to fully charged? If you have the screen on and doing a lot of crap with it, of course it will take longer (this may be obvious to some, I'm not trying to insult you if you didn't know this, just stating the fact)
My experience with it went like this yesterday - note that I haven't even unpacked the factory charger, was using the Motorola Turbo Charger for this "experiment"
0% (phone died over night off charger to make this test)
30 mins on Turbo Charger - 45%
1 hour on Turbo Charger - 85%
Had to take it off to go to work, but those are some great numbers for a charger not necessarily designed for this phone, but the device was in Fast Charging mode the whole time, of course, so it was comparative
Is there some way to turn on fast charge? Because 6hours to fully charge or even charge a lot I don't have.
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Pure+ said:
Is there some way to turn on fast charge? Because 6hours to fully charge or even charge a lot I don't have.
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Use the fast charger that came with it or the Turbo Charger and it comes on automatically, 6 hours was with me using wireless charging which is always going to be slower than any wired 2+ amp charger will do
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Use the fast charger that came with it or the Turbo Charger and it comes on automatically, 6 hours was with me using wireless charging which is always going to be slower than any wired 2+ amp charger will do
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Lol I plugged into the the stock charger from the box and it said 6hrs to charge (from 0) switched outlet just incase that outlet was wonky but same result. The I said screw it and just figured I use to wireless charger so at least the phone would be near me, low and behold it says 3hrs (from 0). So apparently wireless is the way to go.
Pure+ said:
Lol I plugged into the the stock charger from the box and it said 6hrs to charge (from 0) switched outlet just incase that outlet was wonky but same result. The I said screw it and just figured I use to wireless charger so at least the phone would be near me, low and behold it says 3hrs (from 0). So apparently wireless is the way to go.
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You must have had something else going on with the phone for it to say 6 hours on the factory charger....... I don't remember what mine said because I plugged it in, powered it on, and started watching the clock in the kitchen, turning on the phone screen only to check battery levels at those specific intervals I stated! I didn't even touch the device to start anything when I started this experiment, so it wasn't running any apps other than Android system level stuff, but no, wireless definitely isn't going to be faster, despite what the estimated timer said on the phone!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
You must have had something else going on with the phone for it to say 6 hours on the factory charger....... I don't remember what mine said because I plugged it in, powered it on, and started watching the clock in the kitchen, turning on the phone screen only to check battery levels at those specific intervals I stated! I didn't even touch the device to start anything when I started this experiment, so it wasn't running any apps other than Android system level stuff, but no, wireless definitely isn't going to be faster, despite what the estimated timer said on the phone!
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Well it's charging super quick compared to that factory charger. On the factory charger (plugged in right after phone died) went from 0 to 5 percent in about 25 minutes. on the wireless charger right now its gone from 5 to 16 in under 20 minutes. more than twice as fast.
Aslo, I am using the new Samsung wireless charger that is supposed to support fast charging.
**EDIT**
It charges even faster if I plug it directly into the cable for the wireless charger. Now it says 1hr29mn instead of 2hrs.
Pure+ said:
Well it's charging super quick compared to that factory charger. On the factory charger (plugged in right after phone died) went from 0 to 5 percent in about 25 minutes. on the wireless charger right now its gone from 5 to 16 in under 20 minutes. more than twice as fast.
Aslo, I am using the new Samsung wireless charger that is supposed to support fast charging.
**EDIT**
It charges even faster if I plug it directly into the cable for the wireless charger. Now it says 1hr29mn instead of 2hrs.
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Thanks buddy, this worked for me. I was having the exact issue as you.:good:
I had this same issue guys. Make sure your cable is plugged ALL the way into the charger itself. Mine was not in all the way and I was getting super slow charge times.
superb battery backup than s5
Pure+ said:
Is there some way to turn on fast charge? Because 6hours to fully charge or even charge a lot I don't have.
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same thing here.. got my phone today.. Seems like my S5 charged faster.
deepen915 said:
same thing here.. got my phone today.. Seems like my S5 charged faster.
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Make sure the cable is plugged all the way in to the charging brick. If it's not plugged in all the way, even a few mm, it will charge much slower.
amsguitarist said:
Make sure the cable is plugged all the way in to the charging brick. If it's not plugged in all the way, even a few mm, it will charge much slower.
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yeah I figured it out eventually LOL
Does the phone get hot while fast charging for anyone else?
HRodMusic said:
Does the phone get hot while fast charging for anyone else?
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I believe the laws of physics dictate that this will happen.

Question about elementalX

So I just installed elementalX kernel on my Nexus 6 here, and then multirom! Coolest mod ever! Anyways, the question here, is what does it mean by usb fast charge when you're in the aroma installer. Is it an option to turn turbo charge on and off? Or is it something entirely different? Thanks!
H4X0R46 said:
So I just installed elementalX kernel on my Nexus 6 here, and then multirom! Coolest mod ever! Anyways, the question here, is what does it mean by usb fast charge when you're in the aroma installer. Is it an option to turn turbo charge on and off? Or is it something entirely different? Thanks!
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its something different. it means when you plug into a usb for charging, itll charge faster. normally, it charges much slower via usb than using a wall socket. so it makes it a bit faster.
Awesome! Thanks! You've really helped me a lot these past few posts! Lol
H4X0R46 said:
Awesome! Thanks! You've really helped me a lot these past few posts! Lol
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it wont charge as fast as when connected to the wall outlet, but its still faster than a typucal usb port.
Actually the wall charging is unaffected by this mod. Fast Charge only affects USB pc connection, forces 900ma(sometimes more) draw instead of the default 500ma draw, again, only when you are connected to a pc. Wall charging remains unaffected and will charge as fast as it always did whether you have fast charge on or off.
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HolyAngel said:
Actually the wall charging is unaffected by this mod. Fast Charge only affects USB pc connection, forces 900ma(sometimes more) draw instead of the default 500ma draw, again, only when you are connected to a pc. Wall charging remains unaffected and will charge as fast as it always did whether you have fast charge on or off.
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right.
but i never did say that it did affect wall charging. and not all usb connections will see increased speed charging. but the majority of usb ports will

Z3C charger specs

Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.
Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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