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[Q] what is better MIUI -OR- Simply Honey?

(since my last thread has been deleted, I will ask again
EDIT: AND Cyanogen Mod 7 ROM DOES IT HAS BETTER CAPABILITIES??
I wanna know which rom has better capabilities simply honey or miui
(Capabilities=
which rom is faster(miui or SH) or they have +- the same speed?
which rom is stabler? or they are the same..
which rom has more and better features or they have the same?
this things..)
thanks for helping
NOTE- I have already read both SH's and MIUI's threads
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you

simple honey
its perfect
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i would go to simply honey it's simpler and really good. im not on simply honey but looking at the specs of the rom it seems really good. however front camera doesnt work as it says on the ROM and you need to reflash another kernel!
another thing is they have took out apps that came in with SGS from the stock ROM some of it i find very useful. i think the speed of both ROM is quite the same ^_^.

thanks !! waiting for more people---and which rom offers more features? SH or miui?
(and I have SH 3.2 dont wanna update it to3.5 because there are problems with 3.5)

There are no problems at all with 3.5....you're getting crazy man....you're paranoic!
Try and judge!!!
Sent from my SGS with Simply 3.5 Revolution ROM

simone201--i've already tried..
there might be problems!! now I have simply honey 3.2 so I dont want to upgrade due to all the problems in 3.3 . (and as I said- 3.5might include some problems too)
p.s- why am I getting crazy ? lol? it seems you are..
waiting for more people and help please..

please help me guys.. need more comments

FFS.....
Do your parents still cut the crust off your sandwiches for you.
Just flash the rom and find out for yourself. If you don't like it... Move on to the next.

WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!

darixtorento said:
WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!
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Please, stop bumping this thread and making new ones!
This is terrible, you cant compare those 2 roms.
And you said you've tested them both, so why not use that one that's better?

if its hard to understand, the word "them" means to simply honey 3.2 and 3.5 !!!
of course I can compare ONLY about the CAPABILITIES
(about how the room feels/looks/ beutiful or not-- all this things of course, I will decide by myself and im NOT asking for that)
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you

people please help me.. !

Dude, both are awesome. But you can not compare the two ROMs! Simply Honey is 2.3.3 based and MIUI is 2.3.4 based!
The difference in features are very minor, maybe a little here and there. But basically both are equally good ROMs. Try it out for yourself and see which one you like!

I'm currently running MIUI MCGv3 which is fantastic but it is not quite as complete as the stock custom roms like Juwe's or Simply Honey, two of the biggest let downs being the lack of an FM Radio and choppy MKV playback. But in saying that it is stunning visually and has a lot of cool unique features. I haven't used Simply Honey only Juwe's so this could be a little biased. All in all you'll have to try them out yourself, different rom's for different people and different needs.

vijaykanth--- thanks god that's what I want to know -- "The difference in features are very minor" omg thanks finally someone understands!! well I hope your right..
Shrapnel2--- thanks you very much!
still need more people and comments
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)

darixtorento said:
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)
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The main reason I moved to MIUI from Juwe's is that I was getting bored of the same old interface even with changing round png's in the framework and modifying bits and pieces- everything still looked bland to me. Speedwise I think that if you compared the two(Juwe's or Simply Honey on ext4) you would find them to be fairly close, I think lists tend to load faster on MIUI but it has been a while. Stability is fairly good but not 100% of the time, eg before settings Force closed on me, no biggie though as I had apps fc on Samsung GB roms too. Another thing to note is battery isn't the best on MIUI, you'll easily get a day under average use but don't expect three day marathons like some Samsung roms do. So good luck on picking!

each rom is better if the person likes it .I use miui but before that i used simply honey and it was good but i like miui better .It has lots of new features

I installed Simply Honey 3.5 the day it was released, I was previously using Darky's Rom v10 and I was very happy with the change. SH is visually beautiful, I installed Dark Core kernal after installing it to fix the bluetooth issues with CF-Root.
The front camera is still displayed sideways but thats no concern to me since I barely use it anyway. Love the new lockscreens, the market is a bit odd to look at but it doesn't bug me too much (if it does there's plenty of themes out there). After flashing the SGS2 email apk I was very pleased with my phone. It's been a lot more snappier than Darky's and haven't noticed any lag at all..
I'd take Simone's advice and install SH 3.5, you wont be dissapointed =)

Just try both for a full day - you can revert to your previous one anytime with a nandroid backup.

as far as I've understood -after restoring applications, the andorid market and applanet might not recognize them as 'installed applications'. then, I will not be able to update my restored applications
and thanks everyone!!! waiting for more comments..

[Q] Some questions before instalyng CM7

I am seriously thinking about instalying cm7 nightly on my phone. But before i do i have some and i was thinking maybe you can help me out.
1)I was readying that everything works exept for the radio. Is that true? and how does the gps work as good as in gingerbread?
2)How is the battery life compared to the stock gingerbread rom?
3)Is it stable enough for every day use?(i don't mind if i have to "adjust" something here and there i just don't want to miss my cals amd sms).
Thnx in advance.

Rat2000 said:
I am seriously thinking about instalying cm7 nightly on my phone. But before i do i have some and i was thinking maybe you can help me out.
1)I was readying that everything works exept for the radio. Is that true? and how does the gps work as good as in gingerbread?
2)How is the battery life compared to the stock gingerbread rom?
3)Is it stable enough for every day use?(i don't mind if i have to "adjust" something here and there i just don't want to miss my cals amd sms).
Thnx in advance.
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hi.
1) everything except radio is working. Radio is even semi working on the latest builds.
GPS is sometimes stable and sometimes not. Can't day it was better when I was on stock ROM.
2) there are some battery issues, but I can make it last a day with moderate use
3) wouldn't say so. It is still in nightly build and no stable release is available yet.
I'm using it as my daily driver, but I don't mind some bugs here and there since the ROM is blazing fast.
My 2 cents on the matter
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I had it installed for about a week. Didn't try the radio but everything else seemed to work.
Was a bit unstable at times but I could live with it. I couldn't live with the battery life though so reflashed samsung firmware.
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Rat2000 said:
I am seriously thinking about instalying cm7 nightly on my phone. But before i do i have some and i was thinking maybe you can help me out.
1)I was readying that everything works exept for the radio. Is that true? and how does the gps work as good as in gingerbread?
2)How is the battery life compared to the stock gingerbread rom?
3)Is it stable enough for every day use?(i don't mind if i have to "adjust" something here and there i just don't want to miss my cals amd sms).
Thnx in advance.
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To answer all three questions ...
1) FM radio works in the most recent builds. As GPS is about the same as on stock roms. The hardware is the hardware after all.
2) battery life is just? Like on the stock rom ...it depends on a lot of factors. If you are one of those people who claims to get three days on a charge, then you will disappointed. Most users get between a day and a day and a half of normal use per charge with much greater performance than on stock roms.
3) I feel it is ready for daily use if you are the sort who enjoys regular updates and tinkering . However ymmv so the only way to know how you will like it is to flash it and see.

rschenck said:
To answer all three questions ...
1) FM radio works in the most recent builds. As GPS is about the same as on stock roms. The hardware is the hardware after all.
2) battery life is just? Like on the stock rom ...it depends on a lot of factors. If you are one of those people who claims to get three days on a charge, then you will disappointed. Most users get between a day and a day and a half of normal use per charge with much greater performance than on stock roms.
3) I feel it is ready for daily use if you are the sort who enjoys regular updates and tinkering . However ymmv so the only way to know how you will like it is to flash it and see.
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what he said ^^
battery life was fine for me and i last used CM about 2 months ago !!! so it must be even better now
its the same as MIUI except from the layout, and i been on MIUI since CM7 - 2 months. and it is definitely stable enough for day to day use.
everything works for me and fm radio does too !! but if it acts up, i just switch data on and listen to radio online, so thats no issue for me.
I would HIGHLY recommend you try it, the speed is well worth the little bugs. it will blow you away compared to stock / samsung based ROMs.
and if you like CM7 soooo much, take 10 mins to switch to MIUI and you will be even more amazed
and if you dont like it, just go back to stock. at least you can say you have tried it

Big thankyou for everybody that answer my questions.
azzledazzle said:
what he said ^^
and if you dont like it, just go back to stock. at least you can say you have tried it
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True.
I will try it first thing in the morning. since i have to recharge my phone.
rschenck @ i am going to fallow your tutorial, but i noticed you sad that you need a froyo bootloader, why is that?
And 1 more thing: If i want to update cm7 do i allways need to reinstal all the apps or i can update the phone without wipeing all the data?

you can update without losing your apps, thats not a problem
and as for the froyo bootloader, you need this for sd card reasons mainly, amongst other things.
sometimes people cannot use internal nor external sd card, because of not having a froyo bootloader, thus resulting in most apps not working, camera not working and so on.

I was just like you... and i have decided to flash CM7 two days ago:
Really surprise, it's fast and stable.
No problem with call/sms.
Gps and battery life is ok like samsung rom.
Heavy 3D games like Dungeon Defenders work well.
But no TV-out, it's my only problem with this rom...

well i don't use the tv-out feature so i think it is ok.

[POLL] Is CM7 SK3 ready for daily ROM?

Just wondering about your opinions.
If not, can you point out why?

i don't even install it but my answer is no.
people reporting some tiny but annoying bugs. i can understand and accept battery darining but not working p and backspace letter at the keyboard is another thing.
i'm waiting one or two more revisions.

no
from what i read have to many bugs

I voted for no only for the lag and some conflicts with 3gwatchdog but besides that it workes well for a daily use considering the fact that is a early release and it's a long buggy road 'till nightlyes.

Still unstable as what I see in the moment. And yeah, one or two more revisions, then we have to see. But I'm using it as my daily. Not always taking video, I have HTC_IME KB, not fond of using data access and so on..

My answer would be no, it's not. A good ROM for me is a stable one, a smooth looking one and performance... CM7 for Optimus Black has none of this so far.
And also I like using the web browser on my phone, this is nearly impossible with this ROM, but your Nova ROM was just perfect for my needs.

i´ve got a few problems with video calling in gtalk.
and some apps arnt working as they should (eg torch).
also my rear speaker is fu**ed up, but atm i dont know whether it depends on cm7.
things like battery drain and dead touch spots probably result from the fact that CM is just a ported software, so no optimizations are done especially for OB unlike on Nova.
so, for now, "no" to daily ROM

It is like driving a car, it has to be stable otherwise you will be stay on the road for whole day fixing stuff. I say so because I don't have a spare phone - but love to try the new thing and report bugs to you guys.

I am using it!
I think that can be used as daily (anyhow keep your back up close just in case)
I do not understand how some of the respondant can you say that something have a bad taste when you addmit that you never taste it?!
Regards,
Me
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

and a positive reaction ) i like it a lot..it reminds me of my x10..and for me thats the joy...of having a costum rom...seeing how a rom with bugs develops into a bugless rom.i can use the phone even if i press 10 time to write "p" or if i cant make a video in hd..btw if you set on high the video works perfectly...ohh and i managed to get rid of battery drain by luck i guess...i charged to 100% then wiped battery stats...
Sent from my Optimus Black using Tapatalk

I say No. Is very stable and usable, but have some bad bugs, that do not allow daily use for many people. I use this ROM normally, but for identifying problems, bugs and help make this ROM better. Now i don't have any battery drain (5% per 8 hours - awesome), don't have lags.

can live with it, but I us it only for 1 day. I'm in the configuration phase for the moment.

mestanr said:
I say No. Is very stable and usable, but have some bad bugs, that do not allow daily use for many people. I use this ROM normally, but for identifying problems, bugs and help make this ROM better. Now i don't have any battery drain (5% per 8 hours - awesome), don't have lags.
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yours doesn't lag? how?? mine still lags... installed LauncherPro but it still have some lag though...

Mine still lag, sometimes it still hang. But very useable i think.
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never dreamed of it
battery drain,camera issue ,lag.....
i'd suggest you wait for a little more time

dxdiag32 said:
i'd suggest you wait for a little more time
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+1, I'm waiting for the stable one..

Very usable, indeed... and I'm already using it as my daily since my main purpose for the OB is only for SMS, phone calls, taking pictures and web browsing (through WiFi)... That's it. Everything else is like novelty to me.
Though as the saying goes-- 'It's better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and need it.' -- There are features that has to be there, that needs to be stable, so as the need arises we'll have something up our sleeves. That's the reason why I still voted NO.

[Offtopic]My own opinion about ROMs (most of them).

Hi everyone, first I wanna say that Iam pretty bad speaking english but I ll do my best to this topic.
I just want to say that Im pretty happy with the community of OB cuz I have just 2 month with my OB and in that time there was just like 2, 3 ROMs available and those was little outdate... But right now we have 200% more than those days and they are pretty amazing ones
So all I have to say is keep that way and soon we even will have ICS in OB =P
Thx to:
- tantrums for his amazing Marvel Rom.
- gabwerkz for his amazing echelon ROM
- Huexxx for his amazing Zeus ROM
- achyut for his recent amazin ROM too
- re4lsk for his LFD ROM (I never try this but there is some pretty nice comm)
- TheFrankenstain for his work trying to port MIUI for our OB
And those dev that in his time work hard on our OB (I dont know exactly names cuz Im not that old on OB)
Edit:
This is my experience using those ROMs:
The first ROM I use was:
NOVA (Android 2.2)
This ROM is just excelent but is just a 2.2 Froyo ROM. I try this cuz when I buy my OB it came with that android version and that ROM was the original one plus a lot of tweaks!, I had no problem using this but I rly want to change to 2.3... so I found:
Zeus (Android 2.3.4)
At that moment it was at version 2.0 or similar, there we have an excellent ROM, no problems at all and great perfomance. I use this ROM long time without any Change, but there comming v3 and then 4 and I have bad experiences because SOD and when new version arrive I was wondering if t that will have no SODs and there I see still there for me... So, this ROM is excellent if you dont experiment any SOD (a lot of ppl havent but I do every time).
Then a lot of ROM born and I will not say in orden wich ROM I use (cuz I rly dont remember) but I ll say something about it.
Marvel
At it beggining it was just original ROM with a little tweaks, no so much difference, thats why I think this ROM wasnt rly a ROM, but then newest version arrive and it change a lot. I think this ROM is just perfect, great perfomance, no SOD for me, not problem at all... the reason I dont use this anymore is cuz "ICS UI". Im tired to see that UI at this momment...
Sapphire
I try this ROM less than a day because it UI, I just rly dont like, to much color and charge interface... I cant say anything usefull cuz I use this like 12 hours, it is smooth, great perfomance but thats it, I cant say anything else.
Echelon
This is my main ROM for my OB, I was a betatester of this ROM in an alpha version and it was just ammazing, then realease version arrive and a lot of ppl say that it was laggy, but I never experiment that, It is just rly smooth, great perfomance, amazing battery life (Im on 46% and it have 17hours of use with 3g on). I think you need to give a try to this ROM and if you dont experiment bad perfomance you will be happy with this =D
LFD
Like I say before, I never use this ROM... I remember now why I just dont... this is based on a "chinnese" ROM named Lezo and when that ROM arrive for our OB I give it a try and I was pretty dissapoined and when I see LFD was bassed on that, I just cant flash because my bad experience.... Maybe later I ll flash to give it a chance.
TMR
Well for this ROM I was a betatester too and I rly like the UI from MIUI, but there was a lot of problems at that time. Then It got new version and resolve a lot of problems. If you are a MIUI user, this is for you, there is a few problems yet, I experiment 2 random reboots, and the UI isnt smooth yet, but maybe some day will be a great ROM.
Noa
I never try this because Xperia UI, Im tired of that UI because I was xperia user and I just dont wanna see this anymore
CM7
Pretty nice but isnt stable yet.
I hope this can help you =P

+1
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+1 to all the roms but a (-1) to LFD ROM...

Congrats for the great work of all devs (including re4lsk ) and other users that contribute for this awesome community
I have been ghosting around for a while, now it's time to participate

Could this become a thread for people to discuss the different pros and cons of the several roms we now have? (or is there already a thread for that?)
It's becoming hard to decide and since not all of us have enough free time to test them all I believe it would be useful to have such a thread

lvlouro said:
Could this become a thread for people to discuss the different pros and cons of the several roms we now have? (or is there already a thread for that?)
It's becoming hard to decide and since not all of us have enough free time to test them all I believe it would be useful to have such a thread
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I can always give you my feedback about every ROM exist for OB, (except LFD, i was xperia user and I rly dont want to see anymore sony UI =P)

ocovarr112 said:
I can always give you my feedback about every ROM exist for OB, (except LFD, i was xperia user and I rly dont want to see anymore sony UI =P)
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umm...i think ur wrong here...LFD is lezo based. "NOA" rom by DiederickC uses most of my SE ports to get a closer look to SE.
nd, i was a xperia user myself (but loved the SE UI )

Agreed to OP
Excellent work from devs on all roms available wright now, nice to see everybody is helping each other te improve their products.
I'm here now for a few weeks, looking for nice stuff for my OB.
So far i tested some great roms, right now i am on Zeus 5.03 lite. This one is nice stable en pretty fast.
Past 2 days i have been trying Echelon, with ups and downs. I have been reading in Echelon topic (to bad i can't post there yet)
This went in up and downs, first it ran laggy en got max 1500 on quadrant advanced, after a second install everything went very well and got 2000 on quadrant. but then after a few hours the lag came back for a unknown reason.
I don't know what the problem is, maybe it is a fault of myself.. i don't know
much reading and searching keeps me learning every day en coming a little further each day.

achyut said:
umm...i think ur wrong here...LFD is lezo based. "NOA" rom by DiederickC uses most of my SE ports to get a closer look to SE.
nd, i was a xperia user myself (but loved the SE UI )
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Yeah, my mistake. I was confussed between LFD and Noa... thx for your comment
Well I think this thread can have my experience using that ROMs, so I'll edit first post and add that information there. Like everyone know the whole experiences is different for everyone, so take that informations as my opinion and no as a veredict

Thanks for the summary, it will be useful

I tried a lot of Custom ROMs in the last 6 months ..
The last 3 were:
-Echelon (stable, nice and simple UI, actually using),
-Marvel v4-v5-v6 (Pretty good and stable, until the last updates, Eats a lot of memory!!, so I changed)
-CM7 RC1 (Pretty Fast, very nice UI, but has a lot of bugs, too many reboots and freezzing, Can't wait for stable release)

Maybe put in a poll to see which rooms people prefer. Put the versions of the ROMs too eg. ZEUS v6 or marvel v6 etc.
Kudos
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA

I use Marvel A! It's the closest you can get to stock ROM for stability reason. Plus I have the option to remove all Bloatwares with Titanium Backup or Root Browser.
The advantage is "Peace of Mind" meaning I can finally use my phone as real phone releaving myself from endless flashing of new custom ROM bug updates everyday. When ICS comes out. I'll do the same method

[Q] [IMP!] Briefly.. My issues with all ROMs

Hello all
So basically, I've never been settled on a ROM, why? Because all of them gotta have one or more bugs that can't help but abandon it.
In general, I just hate how 80% of all cooked ROMs DO NOT support Video Calling via CDMA
in here are some details:
CM7/7.2 is awesome but it drains battery pretty fast and Video Recording doesn't work for me "it glitches" so i ditched it.
CM9/10 briefly.. They AREN'T stable. How? It might suddenly turn off and show you a bootloop or maybe a kernel get wrecked! that happens every week for me so I ditched this one.
AOKPs the're cool and amazingly fast, battery's life is great! and I just love em but for example. the best AOKP imo is XI9000 ROM but too bad that the Google Play Store is kinda retarded in this ROM "unable to find Facebook, YouTube, Thumb.. etc..in an inside search" I dunno if that applies to all AOKPs. Plus it might wreck when battery runs out xD
Gingerbreads! are just not suitable for a 2012 use! and STOCK ones are majorly slow on my device
So i'm gonna sum this all up by asking some couple of questions:
1- How to keep your ROM stability!, and how to avoid getting it wrecked?!

screamwork said:
Hello all
So basically, I've never been settled on a ROM, why? Because all of them gotta have one or more bugs that can't help but abandon it.
In general, I just hate how 80% of all cooked ROMs DO NOT support Video Calling via CDMA
in here are some details:
CM7/7.2 is awesome but it drains battery pretty fast and Video Recording doesn't work for me "it glitches" so i ditched it.
CM9/10 briefly.. They AREN'T stable. How? It might suddenly turn off and show you a bootloop or maybe a kernel get wrecked! that happens every week for me so I ditched this one.
AOKPs the're cool and amazingly fast, battery's life is great! and I just love em but for example. the best AOKP imo is XI9000 ROM but too bad that the Google Play Store is kinda retarded in this ROM "unable to find Facebook, YouTube, Thumb.. etc..in an inside search" I dunno if that applies to all AOKPs. Plus it might wreck when battery runs out xD
Gingerbreads! are just not suitable for a 2012 use! and STOCK ones are majorly slow on my device
So i'm gonna sum this all up by asking some couple of questions:
1- How to keep your ROM stability!, and how to avoid getting it wrecked?!
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It's really weird that you're having issues with any ROM.
Using JB atm I flashed a stock 2.3.6, CM9 (TeamHacksung's build 16) twice and Mackay ROM afterwards and it's really stable for me. I don't see how your phone would just turn off or some other stuff.
Do you modify it much (undervolting, etc)?

BlueFlame4 said:
It's really weird that you're having issues with any ROM.
Using JB atm I flashed a stock 2.3.6, CM9 (TeamHacksung's build 16) twice and Mackay ROM afterwards and it's really stable for me. I don't see how your phone would just turn off or some other stuff.
Do you modify it much (undervolting, etc)?
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What do u mean by the underlined sentence? I don't flash more than ONE zip file at a time!

He means two times in a row. Some recommend it, and sometimes it's necessary when flashing a rom with a different partition layout.
I think your issues either come from not flashing properly, or not spending enough time to learn about how processes work.
No offense intended, really, but this is a developer forum, and while most of us cannot ornament ourselves with that title, it is expected of us to read up on how everything works and spend some time working out basic issues ourselves.
For example, if you experience lag, fc or other unexplainable issues with a rom where few have the same problems, you should take the time and start flashing jvu with Odin and going down that road until you've got a clean install. Most people will just pass judgements and decide that the rom is buggy.
Not saying that you do this or that, but from your op it seems like you spend more time annoying yourself than trying to fix the issues
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